Just read this, What do you think?

PeachyKeene

I just read that it burns 30% of the calories you eat, to digest protein - 12% calories for complex carbs - 7% simple carbs.

So basically if I eat a 4 oz chicken breast at 180 calories, once my body has digested it, I have only 126 calories left.

Or if I choose to eat a little debbie at 180 calories, after digestion, I have 166 calories left.

So basically counting calories is a great way to lose the weight, but if you want the max out of your weight loss, pick the protein.

What do you guys think?

hairspray74

makes sense to me

fitniknik

Seems like too much thinking to me!

morganadk2_deleted

Seems like too much thinking to me!

me too..

picturesing

Makes total sence!!!!!

amfaery

it takes more energy for the body to digest protein and makes you more satisfied but dont' skip cards completley poick the healthier ones high fiber, whole grains, your brain needs them

Loxytroy

So the Atkins diet then?

boothe1978

Think I'll have a STEAK for dinner tonight, and skip the bread!!!!

Atlantique

While it's true that some foods take more effort and time for your body to break down, I think whatever you read may be overstating the case a bit. I highly doubt you're losing a third of protein calories through digestion. We're more likely talking about MARGINAL differences.

It's a good idea to try to get around a gram of protein per day per pound of bodyweight if you are working out as part of your plan. You'll help to preserve as much muscle as possible while losing weight and feel fuller, longer. But if you ate protein exclusively, you'd be missing many nutrients and end up manourished.

Kirsty_UK

One of my mfp friends told me it takes 8 calories to heat a glass of ice cold water to body temp too - drink it cold :laugh:

beverlyl64

it takes more energy for the body to digest protein and makes you more satisfied but dont' skip cards completley poick the healthier ones high fiber, whole grains, your brain needs them

You are so right! Also don't skip on the veggies and fruits

Hottness4Lyfe

Seems like too much thinking to me!

I totally agree... I spend enough time converting measurements, and doing other mathmathical problems during the day. My brain may explode if I have to solve one more math problem just to eat a meal...:explode: :explode:

oddyogi

This is true. Protein is more thermogenic than carbs or fat.

Studies have shown that people who eat more protein in their diet weigh less than people who don't.

A good ratio to shoot for is 40/30/30; 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fats.

melsinct

I just read that it burns 30% of the calories you eat, to digest protein - 12% calories for complex carbs - 7% simple carbs.

That sounds really high. If that were the case, someone eating a high protein/low carb diet would basically be in "starvation mode" if they didn't account for the 30% loss of calories from digestion. I would say there would be a marginal difference between digesting protein and carbs but not enough to make me change the way I eat based on that fact alone. Now there are other reasons people eat a higher protein diet, but this isn't one of them.

End6ame

I don't know about the numbers exactly, but yes protein has a higher Thermic Effect of Food (TEF) which will burn more calories than others.

djamador

Way toooooo much thinking right now...............

PeachyKeene

So the Atkins diet then?

The Dukan Diet, it is just another form I think. But, my doctor and nutritionist recommended it to me.

mommiedawn

Yes you are right and the amount you say for protein is correct.

Here is a very in depth explanation if you are interested: http://jillian.blogcashbiz.com/diet/how-protein-affects-thermogenesis-and-metabolism.html

mommiedawn

Also here is the biggest reason I am aiming for understanding protein lately:

A recent study at Maastricht University, Netherlands, showed greater larger thermogenesis and fat burning after consuming protein versus carbohydrate may be related to the glucagon response that is induced by protein, but not by carbohydrates; protein-induced thermogenesis and glucagon response are not influenced by a carbohydrate pre- or post load.4 The researchers also reported protein ingestion can fully prevent the plasma glucose increase associated with a carbohydrate when carbohydrates are ingested after proteins.

pasted from: http://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/articles/2008/04/thermogenic-fat-burners-for-weight-loss.aspx

PeachyKeene

Thanks everyone. Actually, my doctor and nutritionist recommended a very high pure protein diet because of some health issues I have.

It is mostly Lean protein, non-fat dairy, oat brain for the first week, then you alternate days like the first week with the days adding veggies. Not completely carb free, but it does say you don't have to count calories since your it takes you body so many to digest the protein. But, I was still wandering could I do both, and get the max out of my weight loss diet. I actually started Saturday and have lost 9 pounds in 6 days. IDK what it is. I am completely satisfied as far as hunger is concerned.

tolygal

My nutritionist told me something similar. I don't know the exact numbers, but the point is that you're so much better off to choose complex foods that take work to digest. She also told me that if I am going to eat something crappy, eat it with something that takes work to digest. I don't remember exactly how she explained it, but it's supposed to help counter act how quickly/simply the crap gets through. I wish I had a better memory of the details - I just hung onto the main idea :-)

There's not really thinking involved here. Just take the main idea and eat the complex stuff instead of the simple stuff. It's not like you get to "not count" those calories... You still count them. You just get far more benefit out of them.

PeachyKeene

Also here is the biggest reason I am aiming for understanding protein lately:

A recent study at Maastricht University, Netherlands, showed greater larger thermogenesis and fat burning after consuming protein versus carbohydrate may be related to the glucagon response that is induced by protein, but not by carbohydrates; protein-induced thermogenesis and glucagon response are not influenced by a carbohydrate pre- or post load.4 The researchers also reported protein ingestion can fully prevent the plasma glucose increase associated with a carbohydrate when carbohydrates are ingested after proteins.

pasted from: http://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/articles/2008/04/thermogenic-fat-burners-for-weight-loss.aspx

Thanks, for your insight. I like have articles and stuff to read, to back up other information I am questioning. It seems to be pretty creditedable information.

PeachyKeene

There's not really thinking involved here. Just take the main idea and eat the complex stuff instead of the simple stuff. It's not like you get to "not count" those calories... You still count them. You just get far more benefit out of them.

I agree!!!!

mommiedawn

Thanks, for your insight. I like have articles and stuff to read, to back up other information I am questioning. It seems to be pretty creditedable information.

You are welcome! And I'm like you, I want to get plenty of credible sources before I make some kind of alteration to my diet because we are talking about fueling our bodies! If I'm going to make these changes I want them to be well informed, worth the effort, and capable of making my life easier! Knowledge is powa!

NeuroticVirgo

Seems like too much thinking to me!

What she said. LOL It is interesting though.

VeganInTraining

Yes protein is good and logically that makes since but I'm not too sure that's lagit. One thing I do know is that Celery takes more calories to digest than the calories that are actually in it. So if you REALLY want to maximize weightloss, eat lots of celery lol

ObviousIndigo

My suggestion would be (probably not for the lady that was put on the protien diet for health reasons) to try to have a lean protien with every meal and to stick to complex carbs. Complex carbs are so much better for you than simple carbs. They keep your blood sugar levels stable and help with everything from proper digestion, metabolism and the expulsion of toxins from the body. Drinking lots of water is key to helping these complex carbs nourish and flush the system.

I agree with the coment about eating complex carbs with simple carbs as long as the complex carb is more abundant than the simple carb.

For example, oatmeal with a little bit of brown sugar on it is fine.
A chocolate bar with crispy rice in it is not.