Concerns over posts content

Fab140

I agree with the above - can't you share you stuff elsewhere and leave this for its intended use??

The "General Discussion" states you may talk about anything or everything. It must be PG-13 though. I agree.

Just an FYI:flowerforyou:

What's funny is that the first official OT PG-13 thread has attracted over 930 views. Go figure.

I hadn't read this thread before seeing the OT PG-13 thread. I honestly thought it was going to be about a movie......

JeremyInvincible

Again, it seems to me that those threads usually don't get hijacked until the original topic has run it's course? So my suggestion for that, is to simply ask people, in your initial post, to please try to stay on topic. I think that might help with hijacking threads. Conversely, if you don't mind a bit of fun, you could even go as far at *whatever* point you feel has answered your comment, question or concern, insert a statement that would allow the Gutter Gang to run away with the thread.

hate to disagree with you but this isn't true. there have been a few posts in the last few days that within 5 or 6 postings became too much for me. That was when I realized it seems this has just become a trend.

This is one of the reasons I have backed off a lot. Seems like every thread becomes a playground, and while I love to joke and be funny, there are times that I need some reassureance, or just a thread to talk about something on my mind. I don't really have a great deal of faith that MFP is where I can get that anymore.

I'm glad that everyone is enjoying the site, but just in the month or so I was gone, this place tookon a very different flavor from what I left. I was a founding Gutter Gang member, but I feel completely pushed out. Back before it seemed that we pushed the line, but were careful never to cross it. Innuendo has given way to something altogether different and ardently overt at times.

I guess as I was telling someone else this morning, that MFP no longer feels like a family, but more like a fraternity/sorority. I dunno, I guess that it just seems like MFP isn't the warm inviting place it once was. I am at the point now, that I am almost afraid to log on at work, as many topics just are not work safe anymore.

Anyway, Manda said it well as far as she and I stand, I just wanted to add my 2 cents as well.

Fab140

Again, it seems to me that those threads usually don't get hijacked until the original topic has run it's course? So my suggestion for that, is to simply ask people, in your initial post, to please try to stay on topic. I think that might help with hijacking threads. Conversely, if you don't mind a bit of fun, you could even go as far at *whatever* point you feel has answered your comment, question or concern, insert a statement that would allow the Gutter Gang to run away with the thread.

hate to disagree with you but this isn't true. there have been a few posts in the last few days that within 5 or 6 postings became too much for me. That was when I realized it seems this has just become a trend.

This is one of the reasons I have backed off a lot. Seems like every thread becomes a playground, and while I love to joke and be funny, there are times that I need some reassureance, or just a thread to talk about something on my mind. I don't really have a great deal of faith that MFP is where I can get that anymore.

I'm glad that everyone is enjoying the site, but just in the month or so I was gone, this place tookon a very different flavor from what I left. I was a founding Gutter Gang member, but I feel completely pushed out. Back before it seemed that we pushed the line, but were careful never to cross it. Innuendo has given way to something altogether different and ardently overt at times.

I guess as I was telling someone else this morning, that MFP no longer feels like a family, but more like a fraternity/sorority. I dunno, I guess that it just seems like MFP isn't the warm inviting place it once was. I am at the point now, that I am almost afraid to log on at work, as many topics just are work safe anymore.

Anyway, Manda said it well as far as she and I stand, I just wanted to add my 2 cents as well.

I agree with the "fraternity/sorority" feeling. I'm guilty of it as well. But yes, it's gone astray. And yes, there is no longer an innocent feeling to the innuendo, it's very blatant. It can be funny but it is disturbing that we have gone from a support group to another blog space.:indifferent:

Phoenix_Rising

I guess as I was telling someone else this morning, that MFP no longer feels like a family, but more like a fraternity/sorority. I dunno, I guess that it just seems like MFP isn't the warm inviting place it once was.

I feel the same.
It reminds me of a college website I use to play on, where everything was sexually charged.
This place has started to feel very explicit and clique-ish.
It's not welcoming. And it's not something I'd want my mom reading!
(I recommended she join! Oh I hope she hasn't read some of these threads lately..:embarassed: )

Maybe there does need to be an Adult Only type room, but I didn't think that was what Mike intended for the boards to be. I mean, he named them "Community". (But I could be wrong about what goes through Mike's head )

ChubbyBunny

Weird... I didn't know this was a popularity contest to see how many views our threads got. :indifferent:

J is right, it's not the same.
Gonna stick to the journaling.

Bye kids.

Cassia

:sad: is what i feel like doing. I too have noticed a "you're in you're not" kinda thing going on.
in fact because of that and of the colored comments why i don't post all that much...

Fitness_Chick

:ohwell: :embarassed: :frown:
I felt as though maybe we're using this more as a Myspace or Facebook than a tool to reach out to others and get help for our weight issues.

Again, so sorry if I have offended anyone.


M

hm....That's exactly how it began to feel to me as well.....more like comments you'd leave on those sites than on a motivation/inspirational health topic site.

Just my thoughts I miss what I thought I had found in MFP when I joined up...:sad:

Regarding the PG-13...:huh: seems like there should perhaps be a rating more to the likes of R-17 or something on threads that I've been on recently?

Like I said...I think I'll stick to the very basics of the site and not get caught up in the threads...BUT...90% of why I joined up on this site and shared it with others is for the motivational side of it.....I'll miss out on that part by going basic:brokenheart:

GinaB30

:sad: is what i feel like doing. I too have noticed a "you're in you're not" kinda thing going on.
in fact because of that and of the colored comments why i don't post all that much...

I understand- I too have felt like I was back in high school and the IN crowd wasn't letting ME IN!!

Fab140

:ohwell: :embarassed: :frown:
I felt as though maybe we're using this more as a Myspace or Facebook than a tool to reach out to others and get help for our weight issues.

Again, so sorry if I have offended anyone.


M

hm....That's exactly how it began to feel to me as well.....more like comments you'd leave on those sites than on a motivation/inspirational health topic site.

Just my thoughts I miss what I thought I had found in MFP when I joined up...:sad:

Regarding the PG-13...:huh: seems like there should perhaps be a rating more to the likes of R-17 or something on threads that I've been on recently?

Like I said...I think I'll stick to the very basics of the site and not get caught up in the threads...BUT...90% of why I joined up on this site and shared it with others is for the motivational side of it.....I'll miss out on that part by going basic:brokenheart:

More people are aware, now, and perhaps we can gently suggest to people that they are getting off topic if the original thread was for anything other than OT purposes?

I'm afraid to have one of the ugly confrontations I have witnessed in the past by doing so though.....

Fab140

:sad: is what i feel like doing. I too have noticed a "you're in you're not" kinda thing going on.
in fact because of that and of the colored comments why i don't post all that much...

I understand- I too have felt like I was back in high school and the IN crowd wasn't letting ME IN!!

I thought I was just being nuerotic, but yes, I feel as though sometimes there is no way to join a conversation. Nothing like old high school feelings coming up! (only graduated in '03, but when are those feelings going away??)

elliott062907

Gang,

I've really wrestled with rather to bring this up or how to address it; and I hope this is taken in the spirit that it is written and that it does not offend anyone.

I have noticed that lately there is a tendency in posts to diverge off into areas that are, shall we say, "adult content."

Now, I know we're all adults on here, and I know that many of y'all are just having fun and enjoying yourselves.

But I know that sometimes I have been reading a topic that started very innocent and then begin running across posts that degenerate into topics, innuendos, etc. that I would rather not read.

I do try to simply skip over posts like that but it's often hard to do when there are multiple pages of them that have do have some very pertinent and relevant posts interwoven.

When this type of posts begin popping up in the threads, I then have to choose rather to completely ignore that whole post in the future or risk coming across something that not only embarrasses me but that I have occasionally found offensive. Not to mention when pictures or graphics are included and then it is all but impossible to not see them when trying to browse a post.

Now, please keep in mind that while a Christian, I am not "church lady." Meaning that I'm not on a mission to 'clean up MFP." I'm not the site owner, so I don't have that authority anyway.

And, I'm not asking y'all to restrict yourself but to perhaps police yourself on occasion. I know that open sharing of my faith beliefs might be offensive to some, so I do not go there. In return, I am asking that we all realize that some on here do have different beliefs that might be offended by discussions that stray into 'gray areas."

Would it be at all possible in the future to restrict some comments to posts that are somehow marked as "more adult" or something? I know there used to be "gutter gangs" threads. So I'm not asking for a "clean" MFP but that a choice be available to those of us who may not wish to 'go there" in posts.

I'm simply trying to find a middle way, I guess, that we all can continue to seek support and none feel offended or feel that many posts have now become "no-go zones' because of their content. It's just becoming more difficult to read posts sometimes.

I may be speaking just for myself, as I don't know if anyone else feels like this or not. And, so I hope this is taken in the sense of MFP camaraderie in which it was written.

OK guys, get out of high school and let it go!!!
The concerns were voiced and so noted and for those that are still bickering, please find another web site to do so if you must.
I don't think any feelings were hurt on purpose and no blame or names were mentioned.
But it does seem that those arguing about it, well, it speaks for itself.
After all, there are funny moments and sad moments on here and I have enjoyed most of them.
There have been so many motivational messages on here and with this forever lingering topic, what do out newbies think when they join??

Can we all just agree to grow up, don't take offense to it and move on???

Fitness_Chick

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I think a lot of people just start a topic in the "Genereal Discussion" area when it should be in the "fitness/exercise" or "motivation" area and don't really think about where the post should originate:ohwell:
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good point....being much newer to this site...I'm still learning and not sure I've started new threads in proper places to get the assistance I needed...glad you pointed that out.

Fab140

Gang,

I've really wrestled with rather to bring this up or how to address it; and I hope this is taken in the spirit that it is written and that it does not offend anyone.

I have noticed that lately there is a tendency in posts to diverge off into areas that are, shall we say, "adult content."

Now, I know we're all adults on here, and I know that many of y'all are just having fun and enjoying yourselves.

But I know that sometimes I have been reading a topic that started very innocent and then begin running across posts that degenerate into topics, innuendos, etc. that I would rather not read.

I do try to simply skip over posts like that but it's often hard to do when there are multiple pages of them that have do have some very pertinent and relevant posts interwoven.

When this type of posts begin popping up in the threads, I then have to choose rather to completely ignore that whole post in the future or risk coming across something that not only embarrasses me but that I have occasionally found offensive. Not to mention when pictures or graphics are included and then it is all but impossible to not see them when trying to browse a post.

Now, please keep in mind that while a Christian, I am not "church lady." Meaning that I'm not on a mission to 'clean up MFP." I'm not the site owner, so I don't have that authority anyway.

And, I'm not asking y'all to restrict yourself but to perhaps police yourself on occasion. I know that open sharing of my faith beliefs might be offensive to some, so I do not go there. In return, I am asking that we all realize that some on here do have different beliefs that might be offended by discussions that stray into 'gray areas."

Would it be at all possible in the future to restrict some comments to posts that are somehow marked as "more adult" or something? I know there used to be "gutter gangs" threads. So I'm not asking for a "clean" MFP but that a choice be available to those of us who may not wish to 'go there" in posts.

I'm simply trying to find a middle way, I guess, that we all can continue to seek support and none feel offended or feel that many posts have now become "no-go zones' because of their content. It's just becoming more difficult to read posts sometimes.

I may be speaking just for myself, as I don't know if anyone else feels like this or not. And, so I hope this is taken in the sense of MFP camaraderie in which it was written.

OK guys, get out of high school and let it go!!!
The concerns were voiced and so noted and for those that are still bickering, please find another web site to do so if you must.
I don't think any feelings were hurt on purpose and no blame or names were mentioned.
But it does seem that those arguing about it, well, it speaks for itself.
After all, there are funny moments and sad moments on here and I have enjoyed most of them.
There have been so many motivational messages on here and with this forever lingering topic, what do out newbies think when they join??

Can we all just agree to grow up, don't take offense to it and move on???

I think this post is so long because everyone is agreeing and apologizing. I haven't seen anyone argue about shorerider's post. :flowerforyou:

shorerider

:ohwell:

I thought we had this worked out but now what has happened so quickly?

Why is it not possible to simply restrict certain type talk to certain threads? It now seems that some do not wish to even do that. Yet, that way, all could post what they wished and no one be hurt or sorry they opened a post. I always felt that "General Discussion" was for stuff that didn't fit in the other categories (like when I complained about my recent ticket)--I didn't realize it meant it was a free-for-all on any thread posted there. And this kind of talk has bled over into other categories, not just "general discussion."

As for it being clique-ish, I don't feel that. But I have felt crowded out of posts by certain language, photos, graphics, etc. Even in a few instances, I posted trying to get the thread back to the original intent to no avail.

There has to a solution to this that all can agree with and that all can continue to gain support, share success, and become healthy!

Fab140

:ohwell:

I thought we had this worked out but now what has happened so quickly?

Why is it not possible to simply restrict certain type talk to certain threads? It now seems that some do not wish to even do that. Yet, that way, all could post what they wished and no one be hurt or sorry they opened a post. I always felt that "General Discussion" was for stuff that didn't fit in the other categories (like when I complained about my recent ticket)--I didn't realize it meant it was a free-for-all on any thread posted there. And this kind of talk has bled over into other categories, not just "general discussion."

As for it being clique-ish, I don't feel that. But I have felt crowded out of posts by certain language, photos, graphics, etc. Even in a few instances, I posted trying to get the thread back to the original intent to no avail.

There has to a solution to this that all can agree with and that all can continue to gain support, share success, and become healthy!

Agreed. 'nuff said. :flowerforyou: And very well done, by that.

Fitness_Chick

J is right, it's not the same.
Gonna stick to the journaling.

Bye kids.

Ahhh CB you've inspired me to get back to journaling....I thank you for that...I had put the journal down and instead found myself on here for long periods of time....as we say everything in moderation...even message boards I guess...for me anyway

Phoenix_Rising

As for it being clique-ish, I don't feel that.

Shore, I don't mean this to have ANY tone with it, and I hope you take this in the light I intend,
but I think you don't feel it because you are a part of that clique.

Mireille

The motivational post are still here. There is wonderful advise and information posted everyday day. The beauty of this site is that we can talk about everything. If I'm having a horrible day or feel like eating everything in the fridge, I come to the threads to help change my mind. Some days I want to read about someone success story and other days I want to laugh. Either way, I'll find both each day and that my friends make me very happy! :bigsmile:

jamdblake4

I thought the voting post was hot.

Fitness_Chick

:sad: is what i feel like doing. I too have noticed a "you're in you're not" kinda thing going on.
in fact because of that and of the colored comments why i don't post all that much...

ya know...I really did think it was just me being insecure thinking that... nice to know I'm not imagining things...

Woulda loved to have seen/been part of the board in the beginning....how long has this site been up and running? Always curious about that

Fitness_Chick

:sad: is what i feel like doing. I too have noticed a "you're in you're not" kinda thing going on.
in fact because of that and of the colored comments why i don't post all that much...

I understand- I too have felt like I was back in high school and the IN crowd wasn't letting ME IN!!

Totally get what you're saying...!!

JeremyInvincible

:sad: is what i feel like doing. I too have noticed a "you're in you're not" kinda thing going on.
in fact because of that and of the colored comments why i don't post all that much...

ya know...I really did think it was just me being insecure thinking that... nice to know I'm not imagining things...

Woulda loved to have seen/been part of the board in the beginning....how long has this site been up and running? Always curious about that

I came in in Late February of this year, and we had a decent community size then. A lot of people have came and went since then, (myself included).

BEFORE

Come on friends lets relax it a little. I think we worked it well w/OT PG13. Don't give up before we even try. Those who want be crazy have their code to speak and those who want to talk seriously now no longer have to worry about their thread being hijacked. Please everyone try this.

I do agree that the threads were hijacked almost immediately b/c I am guilty of at least five of them. I dont think once a topic has run its course it should then be left for others to do whatever. I dont think Mike needs to step in either. We are all adults and can handle it ourselves.

Please everyone lets kill this thread and give it a week before leaving or stop posting.

THIS IS AND WILL BE A GREAT SITE.

mholmes

I haven't put my two cents in because my opinion is very one sided and I chose to keep my mouth shut but I must say one last thing.

Shore - I applaud your courage to step out and address something you think is an issue. Right, wrong, or indifferent that took guts that a lot of us don't possess.

Secondly - I'm sure Mike checks in and if he thinks someone should go, they'll be gone. If a topic should be locked, it will be locked. And I vote that before it goes much further and friends I hold dear will end up with hurt ego's or feelings that this thread should be locked. The person starting it made their point, others have had a voice and apologies have been made. There will always be more than one view and most certainly MANY opinions and all have had the opportunity to express how they feel. Leave it for Mike to check on and maybe he'll take up the ratings suggestion which I think is a wonderful idea - it protects someone's right to discuss what is allowable on the site, while someone at work, with children, or opposite views would know to move on.

I love everyone here, and have participated in both family friendly and R rated threads. I have made people laugh, and cried for others. As long as I'm allowed to be here, I will continue to enjoy this site for ALL the things it has to offer.

Thanks :flowerforyou:

Fitness_Chick

:ohwell: :embarassed: :frown:
I felt as though maybe we're using this more as a Myspace or Facebook than a tool to reach out to others and get help for our weight issues.

Again, so sorry if I have offended anyone.


M

hm....That's exactly how it began to feel to me as well.....more like comments you'd leave on those sites than on a motivation/inspirational health topic site.

Just my thoughts I miss what I thought I had found in MFP when I joined up...:sad:

Regarding the PG-13...:huh: seems like there should perhaps be a rating more to the likes of R-17 or something on threads that I've been on recently?

Like I said...I think I'll stick to the very basics of the site and not get caught up in the threads...BUT...90% of why I joined up on this site and shared it with others is for the motivational side of it.....I'll miss out on that part by going basic:brokenheart:

More people are aware, now, and perhaps we can gently suggest to people that they are getting off topic if the original thread was for anything other than OT purposes?

I'm afraid to have one of the ugly confrontations I have witnessed in the past by doing so though.....

:::nodding my head with agreement""" I know I can't see myself feeling comfy putting that in a post...lol

paulamma1

I think it's wonderful that this has been brought up and lots of people have had the opportunity to have their eyes opened.

It'll continue to be a learning process. Feelings are being expressed which is pretty healthy. I say let it continue.

jamdblake4

wecome to the internet

JeremyInvincible

I haven't put my two cents in because my opinion is very one sided and I chose to keep my mouth shut but I must say one last thing.

Shore - I applaud your courage to step out and address something you think is an issue. Right, wrong, or indifferent that took guts that a lot of us don't possess.

Secondly - I'm sure Mike checks in and if he thinks someone should go, they'll be gone. If a topic should be locked, it will be locked. And I vote that before it goes much further and friends I hold dear will end up with hurt ego's or feelings that this thread should be locked. The person starting it made their point, others have had a voice and apologies have been made. There will always be more than one view and most certainly MANY opinions and all have had the opportunity to express how they feel. Leave it for Mike to check on and maybe he'll take up the ratings suggestion which I think is a wonderful idea - it protects someone's right to discuss what is allowable on the site, while someone at work, with children, or opposite views would no to move on.

I love everyone here, and have participated in both family friendly and R rated threads. I have made people laugh, and cried for others. As long as I'm allowed to be here, I will continue to enjoy this site for ALL the things it has to offer.

Thanks :flowerforyou:

I think one of the things that makes this site great is the fact that we really do regulate ourselves pretty well. Mike has only locked 3 or 4 posts in my time here. Some other boards there are threads locked EVERY day.

The other thing is that I haven't really seen any posts in this thread that pointed fingers at anyone. It's more of a general concern about a totally unique and special place on the internet. My comments certainly weren't focused at any one person in particular. In fact, I think it was surprising to many that there were others that had the same sort of feelings.

Fact of the matter is that this is a place we all love and cherish in our own ways. If we want this place to continue to be as amazing as it is, it's critical that we have threads like this where we can all come together and discuss the health of the community and where we want it to go. I know of no other place on the internet that the people that make up a board is able to do what we do here everyday, and do it in such a manner that we actually are able to afford Mike the luxery of not having to be a sheriff.

Anyway, I'm thankful for all of you. I am thankful for your humor and your compassion. MFP truly is more than the sum of its parts. All of you are amazing people.

jamerz3294

Anyway, I'm thankful for all of you. I am thankful for your humor and your compassion. MFP truly is more than the sum of its parts. All of you are amazing people.

Aye yup.... ditto.

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