A calorie is a calorie is a calorie....

gnicolecan

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calories from different foods are different?

Here's why I ask- my trainer recentlly had me add protien shakes to my daily diet. This has upped my daily caloric intake by about 150 cals per day. He says the extra protien in the form of liquid is different from eating cals. What do you think?

gnicolecan

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calories from different foods are different?

Here's why I ask- my trainer recentlly had me add protien shakes to my daily diet. This has upped my daily caloric intake by about 150 cals per day. He says the extra protien in the form of liquid is different from eating cals. What do you think?

songbyrdsweet

Okay, I'm going to get technical:

A calorie is a unit of measurement.

A macronutrient is a substance that can be used to produce energy.

All calories are created equally- they can each raise the temp of one g of water 1 degree C.
All macronutrients are not created equally, and are digested differently and have different effects on blood sugar. Whey protein is digested quickly--it is to protein as glucose is to carbohydrates. It has a faster gastric emptying and absorption time than, say, a chicken breast. It's a good post-workout supplement, especially if your diet is low in protein in comparison to your activity level.

stacystar

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calories from different foods are different?

Here's why I ask- my trainer recentlly had me add protien shakes to my daily diet. This has upped my daily caloric intake by about 150 cals per day. He says the extra protien in the form of liquid is different from eating cals. What do you think?

stacystar

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calories from different foods are different?

Here's why I ask- my trainer recentlly had me add protien shakes to my daily diet. This has upped my daily caloric intake by about 150 cals per day. He says the extra protien in the form of liquid is different from eating cals. What do you think?

It sounds like he might be my ex-boyfriend who wrestled--he would drink jello because it was lighter than eating jiggly jello. Pretty to look at, but not big on smarts.

songbyrdsweet

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calories from different foods are different?

Here's why I ask- my trainer recentlly had me add protien shakes to my daily diet. This has upped my daily caloric intake by about 150 cals per day. He says the extra protien in the form of liquid is different from eating cals. What do you think?

It sounds like he might be my ex-boyfriend who wrestled--he would drink jello because it was lighter than eating jiggly jello. Pretty to look at, but not big on smarts.

LOLOLOLOLOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

shorerider

Ok, Songbird, but does it still not be viewed by your body as a 'calorie"? I mean, it's not free food, right? And, it if empties from your stomach quickly, is that a "good thing?" For diabetics, we would prefer to slow the digestion, so I'm not sure how that would reflect upon a "normal" person's calorie intake.

And, if they empty quickly like that, then they would spike the BG levels, correct? If that's the case, then I probably want to stay away from those type of drinks.

I'm asking because I had been thinking of getting something like those drinks to try post-ride recovery.

gnicolecan

I'm very very very very active, and trying to bust the mother of all plateaus. This is one method he is suggesting- upping my protien as well as weight training.
The prob is, I keep thinking DANG i'm drinking all these freaking cals!:grumble:

songbyrdsweet

Ok, Songbird, but does it still not be viewed by your body as a 'calorie"? I mean, it's not free food, right? And, it if empties from your stomach quickly, is that a "good thing?" For diabetics, we would prefer to slow the digestion, so I'm not sure how that would reflect upon a "normal" person's calorie intake.

And, if they empty quickly like that, then they would spike the BG levels, correct? If that's the case, then I probably want to stay away from those type of drinks.

I'm asking because I had been thinking of getting something like those drinks to try post-ride recovery.

Of course not, no food is free. But when you're talking in terms of calories...a calorie is just a calorie. 150 calories will always yield the same amount of energy, whether it's from a snickers bar or a chicken breast.

When you're trying to compare food quality, you have to think in terms of the nutrient, because it's the nutrient--not the calories within--that effect your body. Whey protein is highly insulogenic, which is good for those who have normal insulin sensitivity. It's digested quickly and absorbed quickly, which many people believe leads to better recovery after a workout. However, I wouldn't recommend that for a diabetic unless their sugars were really low post-WO. It's the same principle as having a lean protein with a carbohydrate post-wo--spike the BG to get insulin to act quickly on the nutrients and restore glycogen.

hnlymark

In my humble opinion, it should get added to your food just like any other food. In fact, I bet if you search for it, you will find your brand already in use by someone. As songbyrd said, a calorie is a calorie and it needs to be counted as such. These are HEALTHY calories though, unlike, say, HFCS, sugar, or other highly processed foods. Fast absorbing protein is good, whereas carbs which are broken down rapidly are not. From what I've read, whey protein is the fastest.

shorerider

Of course not, no food is free. But when you're talking in terms of calories...a calorie is just a calorie. 150 calories will always yield the same amount of energy, whether it's from a snickers bar or a chicken breast.

When you're trying to compare food quality, you have to think in terms of the nutrient, because it's the nutrient--not the calories within--that effect your body. Whey protein is highly insulogenic, which is good for those who have normal insulin sensitivity. It's digested quickly and absorbed quickly, which many people believe leads to better recovery after a workout. However, I wouldn't recommend that for a diabetic unless their sugars were really low post-WO. It's the same principle as having a lean protein with a carbohydrate post-wo--spike the BG to get insulin to act quickly on the nutrients and restore glycogen.

Ok, that's what I was thinking. so protein drinks are out. :ohwell: thanks!

songbyrdsweet

Of course not, no food is free. But when you're talking in terms of calories...a calorie is just a calorie. 150 calories will always yield the same amount of energy, whether it's from a snickers bar or a chicken breast.

When you're trying to compare food quality, you have to think in terms of the nutrient, because it's the nutrient--not the calories within--that effect your body. Whey protein is highly insulogenic, which is good for those who have normal insulin sensitivity. It's digested quickly and absorbed quickly, which many people believe leads to better recovery after a workout. However, I wouldn't recommend that for a diabetic unless their sugars were really low post-WO. It's the same principle as having a lean protein with a carbohydrate post-wo--spike the BG to get insulin to act quickly on the nutrients and restore glycogen.

Ok, that's what I was thinking. so protein drinks are out. :ohwell: thanks!

Well I have good news! Studies are still pretty much inconclusive as to whether a simple carb/whey combo is any better than a complex carb/solid protein meal. Just as long as you're eating something after a workout, you're providing your body with the building blocks needed for repair. I can't digest whey, so my post workout meal is either fish/chicken and bread, or soy protein with milk. Nothing highly insulogenic, and I still recover just like I did when I was taking whey (minus the embarassing tummy problems hehe).

PrincessLaundry

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calories from different foods are different?

Here's why I ask- my trainer recentlly had me add protien shakes to my daily diet. This has upped my daily caloric intake by about 150 cals per day. He says the extra protien in the form of liquid is different from eating cals. What do you think?

Here's the not so technical way of looking at this....

Is your trainer cute?

If he's a hottie tottie...then follow his lead, if he's frumpy and torn shorts, ignore his advice. It's like getting advice about hair from a hair dresser with bad hair. Am I right girls?




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ChubbyBunny

HAHA! PL you kill me! :laugh: