Hashimoto's Disease....does anyone treat it naturally?

sarahbeth17
sarahbeth17 Posts: 100 Member
edited September 28 in Health and Weight Loss
I've done A LOT of research and I know that Hashimoto's can be "cured" by diet without the need for meds (they don't help, believe me I know) but I can't seem to figure out what I am allowed to have because the more research I do it just keeps taking all foods away from me! So becoming Gluten free is the main thing, and that was 1 thing to stop eating all wheat, but now I can't have soy or casein(milk protein), iodine, caffeine, echinacea, starch, beta-carotine, L-something?!?!, all of these things affect my hashimoto's and fibrocystic problem! My hair is falling out and I am constantly aching, I just feel overwhelmed. Is anybody going through this or live this way and having success?

Thanks!
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  • janemartin02
    janemartin02 Posts: 2,653 Member
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  • kateanne27
    kateanne27 Posts: 275 Member
    diet can help, but hashimotos is an immune disease, you can't turn off antibodies with diet, there is more than one way to treat it, but diet is not a cure, there is no cure, anyone who tells you there is is a quack, please see a doctor for alternative types of medication. I have gone thru what you are, even still do at times, and worse, medication adjustment fixes it.... temporarily, this is a lifelong condition, my medication constantly is being adjusted because my immunesystem does more and more damage to my thyroid, but just because there is no easy and permanent fix that is not to say that the medication does not do what it is designed to do. Your hair and energy and pain are caused by lack of thyroid hormones, and if you do not get more hormones it is possible for it to get much worse, you can't eat these hormones, nor is it feasible to starve your immune system, which some of the hashimoto's diets will do. your health is too important to not get help for this.
  • sarahbeth17
    sarahbeth17 Posts: 100 Member
    I appreciate the input but I disagree with most of what you are saying. There are many people that do get cured from their diet, and because it is an immune disorder synthroid or whatever you take will not help it, the reason people have their thyroids removed is because of taking synthroid in the first place, it is for hypothyroidism not linked to an immune disorder but most doctors don't treat the patient just what they see on the bloodwork. I know what i'm supposed to be doing to feel better I would just like to know more options of what I'm allowed to eat that won't make me feel bad. I know Kumbucha tea alone makes people feel lots better and has healed some people.
  • Yes! I was diagnosed with hashimotos, celiacs and chronic fatigue. I've always had weird health issues that doctors brushed aside, I'm in my early 20's, but doctors never had answers. It got to the point of me getting pnemonia twice in one year with a fever of 104 and losing 15 pounds to 116 lbs both times, my hair was falling out I had horrible acne so bad i wouldnt leave the house for nearly a year and deep waves in my nails. My sleep patterns were very bad and I was an emotional wreck. I was so frustrated I felt like my body was possesed, I would freak out on my boyfriend then apologize a minuet later scared of the person that did that! I was blessed to finally find a doctor that's natural that knew what was going on. I was diagnosed a year ago and have been 100% strict gluten and dairy free for 6 months. I'm a completely different person! Thick hair, my nails are looking almost normal, my skin is clear and I'm emotionally much better. She has me on digestive enzymes, strong probiotics, B & D vitamins and fish oil daily plus I take A E magnesium calcium and zinc all gluten dairy fake sugar free. Also cortisol for chronic fatigue and i was on progesterone bc my levels were so low. Yes it is a lifestyle change, but I tell myself I have air to breathe, the lungs to breathe it, and two hands to use so I am thankful. It's hard in the beginning but it gets easier. I 100% believe in diet change. It cured me and I was almost hospitalized for my illness. If you have questions let me know!
  • You mentioned ideas of what to eat, my diary is public also google gluten free dairy free meal options. I do eat too many nuts so don't do that part of my diet lol. I'm changing that as of tomorrow to low fat higher carb gluten free dairy free still. Bobs Red Mill oats are great. Read labels! Barley malt in cereal, maltodextrin, soy sauce all have gluten. Google list of common foods that have gluten and also other names gluten goes by. No beer or most alcohol btw. Also look into candida and yeast issues. Maybe stay away from active yeasts Except Braggs nutirtional inactive yeast.
  • kateanne27
    kateanne27 Posts: 275 Member
    if there is a diet that stops one antibody in your immune system from being effective without affecting the rest I would love to know about it, the symptoms of hashimotos come from low thyroid hormones in your body, you can eat a diet that strengthens the parts of your body that low thyroid affects, like hair, energy, skin, heart, depression, etc, but it doesnt replace what your body can't make on its own, so yes, you can alleviate symptoms thru diet, and if you feel that is enough, I wish you the best, but yes synthroid does help with the antibodies, the less thyroid hormones your body puts out, the more tsh your pituitary puts out to try and kick your thyroid back into gear, the more tsh, the more your anti thyroid antibodies kick in, artificial thyroid hormone lowers your tsh, gives your thyroid a break, and can slow the buildup of scar tissue. not a permenant solution, but no less so than a strict diet, and there are no side affects to properly dosed thyroid. And this way, this one aspect of my health does not rule my life. There is real science behind this. I realize a lot of people like natural treatments over conventional medicine, but diet can't change dna. There is no cure, you will always need to stay on either diet or medicine, its always going to be maintenance or damage control. I'd rather treat the cause of my symptoms to prevent as much damage as possibe, rather than merely try and manage the symptoms. And it works. my symptoms get so much better.
  • sarahbeth17
    sarahbeth17 Posts: 100 Member
    my symptoms stay the same and the dr always says my bloodwork is "normal" and what you described seems to be what would work for normal hypothyroidism, but that's not what hashimoto's is. It's not an immune system disorder CAUSED BY the thyroid, it's an immune problem that affects the thyroid, if you fix the immune problem the thyroid gets better on its on, it's outside the thyroid affecting the thyroid, which is why taking synthroid may "fix" the thyroid but all the symptoms are still there, and after years and years on synthroid, people still have to get their thyroids removed due to ruining them.
  • kateanne27
    kateanne27 Posts: 275 Member
    lol I think we are saying the same thing on one thing, I agree the immune system affects the thyroid, but the more active your thyroid is, ie the harder it works being pushed by the pituitary, the more your antibodies attack it, like the way a dormant virus can live in the body, left alone by the immune system until it starts causing problems and attracting an immune response. Synthroid gives your thyroid a chance to 'rest' by getting the pituitary off its back, so to speak, which means it attracts less attention from your immune system. I have been to many endocrinologists over the years, since I move around a lot, this is how they all explain it, in as many words. you cannot remove antibodies from your system, like how you only get chicken pox once, then every time you are exposed to the virus, your immune system's specific antibodies recognize it and attack. Syntroid doesnt fix your immune system, and since thyroid hormones can naturally flux, and cumulative damage to the thyroid causes less natural output of hormone, it will not even prevent the need for the thyroid to be removed, or prevent future 'attacks' on the thyroid, but its not the synthroid doing the damage, it doesn't even directly affect the thyroid itself, but the pituitary, and all the things in your body that need thyroid hormone to function properly, hence symptom maintenance. like I said, there is no cure only management.
    you may want to ask your doctor about Armor Thyroid, I have heard good things about it, especially for those like us for whom synthroid does not fix the symptoms completely, it is a non synthetic hormone replacement, but it is hard to get in some regions, and my doctor(s) were concerned with me anbout the negative affects of inconsistant treatment if it is not available all the time.
    And for what its worth, those I know who have had their thyroids removed, have found that synthroid is more consistently effective after, due to the fact that there is no more immune attack, so less fluctuation in natural hormone (since there is none)
  • Tree72
    Tree72 Posts: 942 Member
    My advice would be to see if there are any doctors in your area who specialize in treating that type of immune disorder. I have a friend who has Hashimoto's, Sjogren's syndrome, and fibromyalgia. She found a local doctor who is also a certified acupuncturist and chiropractor. She has had amazing improvements since she has started working with the doctor. I know she's on a reduced gluten diet (but not gluten free), does take Synthroid, and also takes several types of supplements daily (vitamin and herbal). Her doctor has worked with her to balance the pH levels in her body as well. Her pain levels from the fibro have reduced significantly, and she no longer needs Restasis (for the Sjogren's).

    So, I don't have any specific advice for you, but know that there are MDs who use natural methods, sometimes in combination with traditional medications, to help manage such disorders. (If by some wacky chance you live near Austin, TX, send me a message and I'll get the doctor's name.)

    Best wishes to you on managing this complex health issue.
  • Allegi32
    Allegi32 Posts: 302 Member
    my symptoms stay the same and the dr always says my bloodwork is "normal" and what you described seems to be what would work for normal hypothyroidism, but that's not what hashimoto's is. It's not an immune system disorder CAUSED BY the thyroid, it's an immune problem that affects the thyroid, if you fix the immune problem the thyroid gets better on its on, it's outside the thyroid affecting the thyroid, which is why taking synthroid may "fix" the thyroid but all the symptoms are still there, and after years and years on synthroid, people still have to get their thyroids removed due to ruining them.

    There seems to be a lot of mixed up information in here. Hashimoto's is an autoimmune disorder, and there is no "cure" for autoimmune disorders like Hashimoto's or Lupus, conventional or alternative. There are medications and diets to help alleviate symptoms, prevent flare-ups, etc., but no real cure. Taking Synthroid does not "fix" the thyroid like you say, but it replaces the hormone that the body is no longer making. So symptoms of hypothyroidism disappear because your body is now receiving the amount of hormone that it requires to work properly. Similarly, type-I and some type-2 diabetics require insulin, so they take it, it's the same thing. It's simply a replacement of the hormone that your body is no longer making enough of. Lastly, most people who have their thyroids removed have them removed because of nodules that grow too large, or from benign tumors and cancers. Having hypothyroidism all on its own is not a reason to have your thyroid removed. There's simply no reason for it, and in fact it means a higher dose of medication, so no respected endocrinologist would remove a thyroid without a good reason. And I know that people are trying to go for all-natural approaches, and I am actually a person who HATES medication, but Synthroid is one of the safest and well-tolerated medications out there. I would love to see any evidence of Synthroid "ruining" your thyroid.

    ETA: Sorry, maybe I'm missing something or mis-reading your post....were you diagnosed with hypothyroidism? You said your bloodwork was normal?
  • Celiacs is an autoimmune disease triggered by gluten. If you remove the trigger often it stops the attack on other parts of the body including thyroid. Autoimmune can attack different parts including spine and brain. It takes a while for the immune system to calm down usually a couple months. Taking synthroid is against my personal beliefs, some say it supports and gives the thyroid a rest, I believe it makes it lazy and throws the body out of balance. Iodine is said to support thyroid function.
  • sarahbeth17
    sarahbeth17 Posts: 100 Member
    My advice would be to see if there are any doctors in your area who specialize in treating that type of immune disorder. I have a friend who has Hashimoto's, Sjogren's syndrome, and fibromyalgia. She found a local doctor who is also a certified acupuncturist and chiropractor. She has had amazing improvements since she has started working with the doctor. I know she's on a reduced gluten diet (but not gluten free), does take Synthroid, and also takes several types of supplements daily (vitamin and herbal). Her doctor has worked with her to balance the pH levels in her body as well. Her pain levels from the fibro have reduced significantly, and she no longer needs Restasis (for the Sjogren's).

    So, I don't have any specific advice for you, but know that there are MDs who use natural methods, sometimes in combination with traditional medications, to help manage such disorders. (If by some wacky chance you live near Austin, TX, send me a message and I'll get the doctor's name.)

    Best wishes to you on managing this complex health issue.

    I'm not close enough to see the doctor but I am in Dallas :), I'm trying to see a natural doctor now but they all charge a lot more than I have. I ran out of my synthroid and I know the dr im trying to get in to see would take me off synthroid anyways and i don't want to refill the prescription, now I'm losing weight tho...
  • sarahbeth17
    sarahbeth17 Posts: 100 Member
    my symptoms stay the same and the dr always says my bloodwork is "normal" and what you described seems to be what would work for normal hypothyroidism, but that's not what hashimoto's is. It's not an immune system disorder CAUSED BY the thyroid, it's an immune problem that affects the thyroid, if you fix the immune problem the thyroid gets better on its on, it's outside the thyroid affecting the thyroid, which is why taking synthroid may "fix" the thyroid but all the symptoms are still there, and after years and years on synthroid, people still have to get their thyroids removed due to ruining them.

    There seems to be a lot of mixed up information in here. Hashimoto's is an autoimmune disorder, and there is no "cure" for autoimmune disorders like Hashimoto's or Lupus, conventional or alternative. There are medications and diets to help alleviate symptoms, prevent flare-ups, etc., but no real cure. Taking Synthroid does not "fix" the thyroid like you say, but it replaces the hormone that the body is no longer making. So symptoms of hypothyroidism disappear because your body is now receiving the amount of hormone that it requires to work properly. Similarly, type-I and some type-2 diabetics require insulin, so they take it, it's the same thing. It's simply a replacement of the hormone that your body is no longer making enough of. Lastly, most people who have their thyroids removed have them removed because of nodules that grow too large, or from benign tumors and cancers. Having hypothyroidism all on its own is not a reason to have your thyroid removed. There's simply no reason for it, and in fact it means a higher dose of medication, so no respected endocrinologist would remove a thyroid without a good reason. And I know that people are trying to go for all-natural approaches, and I am actually a person who HATES medication, but Synthroid is one of the safest and well-tolerated medications out there. I would love to see any evidence of Synthroid "ruining" your thyroid.

    ETA: Sorry, maybe I'm missing something or mis-reading your post....were you diagnosed with hypothyroidism? You said your bloodwork was normal?

    If synthroid had worked then I'm sure i'd still be taking it until I found another solution. It does not work on my body, and I've been told by many that it's because I have hashimoto's and synthroid is not a medication for that form of hypothryoid problem. I agree with the other post, synthroid does make the thyroid lazy. Our bodies by nature can be healthy if we treat them the right way, I don't believe i am just destined to have to be on medicine forever.
  • SarzWix
    SarzWix Posts: 21 Member
    Lots of useful information is available on the about.com thyroid pages. http://thyroid.about.com/cs/hypothyroidism/a/hashivshypo.htm

    And a sensible explanation of why you should be taking your meds... : http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/refusingmeds.htm
  • Allegi32
    Allegi32 Posts: 302 Member
    my symptoms stay the same and the dr always says my bloodwork is "normal" and what you described seems to be what would work for normal hypothyroidism, but that's not what hashimoto's is. It's not an immune system disorder CAUSED BY the thyroid, it's an immune problem that affects the thyroid, if you fix the immune problem the thyroid gets better on its on, it's outside the thyroid affecting the thyroid, which is why taking synthroid may "fix" the thyroid but all the symptoms are still there, and after years and years on synthroid, people still have to get their thyroids removed due to ruining them.

    There seems to be a lot of mixed up information in here. Hashimoto's is an autoimmune disorder, and there is no "cure" for autoimmune disorders like Hashimoto's or Lupus, conventional or alternative. There are medications and diets to help alleviate symptoms, prevent flare-ups, etc., but no real cure. Taking Synthroid does not "fix" the thyroid like you say, but it replaces the hormone that the body is no longer making. So symptoms of hypothyroidism disappear because your body is now receiving the amount of hormone that it requires to work properly. Similarly, type-I and some type-2 diabetics require insulin, so they take it, it's the same thing. It's simply a replacement of the hormone that your body is no longer making enough of. Lastly, most people who have their thyroids removed have them removed because of nodules that grow too large, or from benign tumors and cancers. Having hypothyroidism all on its own is not a reason to have your thyroid removed. There's simply no reason for it, and in fact it means a higher dose of medication, so no respected endocrinologist would remove a thyroid without a good reason. And I know that people are trying to go for all-natural approaches, and I am actually a person who HATES medication, but Synthroid is one of the safest and well-tolerated medications out there. I would love to see any evidence of Synthroid "ruining" your thyroid.

    ETA: Sorry, maybe I'm missing something or mis-reading your post....were you diagnosed with hypothyroidism? You said your bloodwork was normal?

    If synthroid had worked then I'm sure i'd still be taking it until I found another solution. It does not work on my body, and I've been told by many that it's because I have hashimoto's and synthroid is not a medication for that form of hypothryoid problem. I agree with the other post, synthroid does make the thyroid lazy. Our bodies by nature can be healthy if we treat them the right way, I don't believe i am just destined to have to be on medicine forever.

    I'm not sure where you're getting this. Hashimoto's is the single most common cause of hypothyroidism and the simple treatment for it is Synthroid/Levothyroxine. Other causes of hypothyroidism include iodine deficiency (nearly absent from developed countries like the U.S.), overtreatment of hyperthyroidism, radiation therapy from cancer treatment, and removal of thyroid gland for other reasons. So if you live in the U.S. or a similarly developed country, haven't been treated for hyperthyroidism, haven't receiving cancer treatment or had your thyroid removed, you almost certainly have Hashimoto's. From the Mayo Clinic:

    Hypothyroidism may be due to a number of different factors, including:

    * Autoimmune disease. People who develop a particular inflammatory disorder known as Hashimoto's thyroiditis suffer from the most common cause of hypothyroidism. Autoimmune disorders occur when your immune system produces antibodies that attack your own tissues. Sometimes this process involves your thyroid gland. Scientists aren't sure why the body produces antibodies against itself. Some think a virus or bacterium might trigger the response, while others believe a genetic flaw may be involved. Most likely, autoimmune diseases result from more than one factor. But however it happens, these antibodies affect the thyroid's ability to produce hormones.

    I'm all for you doing what you feel you need to do for yourself, but as someone with Hashimoto's and as someone with a medical background, I'm concerned about the information being put out here. And with that....I'm out.
  • There is CURE for Hashimoto's, but it won't be found in conventional medicine. They treat all hypothyroidism the same way, even went they have different origins. Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (inflammation of the Thyroid) is an auto immune disorder that CAN be corrected to stop the attack and destruction of the thyroid gland. But even after the immune problem is in remission, (meaning it's not Hashimoto's or autoimmune anymore) the thyroid may or may not go back to working normally because it depends on the damage it has received.

    "Digestive health and the immune system are inextricably linked. Since 70% of the body’s immune system dwells in the digestive tract, maintaining balanced digestive health is crucial to the body’s overall well-being. .....In order to have a properly functioning immune system, one must have a healthy digestive system. Because nearly three quarters of your body’s immune system dwells in the digestive tract, it has the most profound effect on overall health out of all the internal organs." http://www.goodbelly.com/learn/digestive-issues

    Because of that a gluten free diet will help a lot, and in many cases it's all the person needs to lower the TPO auto-antibodies (These are produced by the thyroid gland to counteract the attack from the immune system). But a gluten free diet may not be enough if the person have others problems like Candida, poor digestion, hormones imbalance, adrenal fatigue, etc. which usually accompany auto immune disorders, since they also need to be corrected.

    I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's 6 months ago, and with the help of a Naturopath I lowered my TPOs from 323.60 to 64 in just 3 months, by having a gluten free diet, no iodine, Selenium methionine, probiotics, some vitamins A-D, Omega 3 and thyroid hormone (temporarily), because a low metabolism will make your recovery lengthy and also when TSH is lowered, inflammation is also lowered which consequently will help to lower the TPOs to some degree.

    Some interesting links:
    Food that helps: http://www.suite101.com/content/hashimotos-disease-food-that-helps-a117592
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Phases-of-Successful-Hashimotos-Treatment&id=3973337
    http://www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/digestive_alert_thyroid_celiac_candida/
  • checoo
    checoo Posts: 12 Member
    I've been battling Hashimotos for two years now. After going through about 10 doctors/endocrinologist, I'm turning to a naturopath for treatment. Through research, I've been able to help myself more than any traditional doctor or endocrinologist has. They don't look at the immune system, but rather the thyroid only and treat it like hypothyroidism. First, I was able to find a general doctor to allow me to try Armour (Endos would not) and that alleviated the symptoms which allowed me to focus on getting to the root cause. Still, I got no answers from doctors. So I did research and connected online with other. Discovered the gluten sensitivity/hashimotos connection. I went on a gluten free diet wich further increased my energy, lowered my pain, ELIMINATED ALL INFLAMMATION, and made me feel better overall. And I've been gluten free for only a month now. It looks like my hair is thickening (starting to see less of my scalp than before). From what I read, the protein in gluten mimics a thyroid hormone. So if you're sensitive to gluten your body creates antibodies to attack it. Since the thyroid hormone looks similar to these antibodies, they attack your thyoid as well, everytime you eat gluten. So the key is to remove the trigger...gluten.

    Until I get in with the naturopath at the end of August, I'm continuing with things I can do on my own. With an autoimmune disease, you have to heal the gut. I'm doing a yeast cleanse and I've switched to a stronger probiotic. I plan to get to a place where i can determine all of my food allergies so that i can know what to avoid. I suppliment with a multivitamin, selenium, magnesium, calcium, NAC, alpha lipoic coq10, fish oil, and B-Complex. Again, it's only been a month, so there hasn't been enough time to get labs and see if theres a change in any of the numbers. However, I feel 90% better, have more energy and I had to lower my Armour dosage because after a week of gluten free, I couldn't handle my current dosage. That's a good sign. An even greater sign is that for the first time in 2 years, I was able to lose weight. This month since going gluten free, i've lost 6.5 pounds so far.

    Thyroid medication does not cure hashimotos. But it supplements your thyroid hormone production while you boost your immune system by healing your gut and finding your allergies and any other attack triggers. Traditional doctors won't provide this information. I've read that in 3-6 months of gluten free and healing the gut, that it is possible to reverse the hashimotos condition. But it's not a cure, since eating gluten will again initiate an attack on they thyroid and result in a hashimoto flare up.
  • Fibrocystic problems are related to hypothyroidism and I heard they are treated with Iodine & potassium iodide successfully in only 3 months; But with Hashimoto's the TPO antibodies need to be lowered first before taking the Iodine.

    Please see blog: http://advancingthyroidcare.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/fibrocystic-breasts-breast-cancer-treatment/
    You can ask them questions for free.

    As long as you have TPO antibodies there is thyroid inflammation, even if you feel better.

    These autoimmune problems are too complex to be self treated, especially when there are other conditions happening along with it. Like is in your case. My advice : Please don't delay treatment.
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
    Yes, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's about 8 years ago, and 3 paternal aunts and my paternal grandmother had it also.

    I took meds for 7 years, including a narcolepsy med for 4 years (I fell asleep twice while driving--aack!). They never got the dosing right and I never felt good. About 5 years ago, I lost a baseball-size chunk of hair on the right side of my head, my skin was grayish and my nails were brittle. It was an awful time. The only thing that gave me any energy at all was working out. I would feel good during a workout and for about 2 hours after, and then I was toast.

    Last year the med I was on, Armour (dessicated pig hormone) became unavailable and I was without it for over 2 weeks, feeling non-functional by 2 pm every day. At that time my chiro suggested that I try an OTC supplement instead of a drug.

    He gave me Thytrophin PMG by Standard Process. It cost $12 for 90 tablets. I take 2 tablets in the morning and 1 later in the day (sometimes I will take a 4th if I have to be up very late).

    THIS SUPPLEMENT HAS CHANGED MY LIFE. For the past year I have felt so good again--I have energy! Not hyper energy, but normal energy--lack of fatigue. I just had my blood tets done and an ultrasound of my throat at the endocrinologist's office. Guess what -- normal levels (first time since I was diagnosed), and no (NONE, NADA!!) indication whatsoever of Hashimoto's on the ultrasound. The supplement is bovine-derived amino acids that stimulate the thyroid to make its own hormone instead of replacing the hormone with a drug (which may shut down the thyroid completely after years of use).

    I do eat a pretty clean diet and I believe that the diet combined with this supplement have cured me.

    My endocrinologist was surprised that I had been off the meds for more than a year (of course he had told me that I needed to take them for the rest of my life), but he was happy for me. I have encountered other MDs who say it's hogwash and/or snake oil, but I really don't care what they say bc it worked for me after 7 years of the drugs did not.

    I think you can get the Thytrophin at a chiro office or a naturopath's office, or of course, online.

    blessings.
  • How can I find out if I have celiacs? Is there a test? I too have Hashimotos.
  • BWinsto1
    BWinsto1 Posts: 46 Member
    Your thyroid specialist should test you for celiac disease.
  • I am trying to treat it naturally. The root cause of Hashimoto's is different for everyone, though it is undeniably linked to gluten intolerance, and being a auto-immune disorder it effects/ or is cause by the gut: digestion so you have to eat foods that are easy to digest. I cook almost all of my meals. I see a Chinese medicine doctor and he recommends the paleo diet: limit grains to almost nil. It was really hard at first but I have gotten used to it and don't miss the grains too much (I do still want to stuff my face with croissants though!)

    Quinoa: always rinse before cooking, then add zucchinni or parsley or pine nuts
    Beef stew: you can make a veggie stock with the parts of veggies you can't eat, strain, and add beef and every vegetable you like. Add tomatoes to make it more savory
    Eggplant parmesian with no pasta just mushrooms and veggies (or you can cheat a little and make rice pasta but its not very good for you)
    Chicken soup, chicken stock, chicken enchiladas or fajitas with corn tortillas (even though corn is considered a grain I still eat a little)
    potatoes, leeks, cooked squash is especially good for Hashimoto's.
    Beans and rice
    Salads with hard boiled eggs and sunflower seeds. You can make an awesome dressing with VEGENAISE as a base and it tastes better than mayonnaise anyway.
    steamed greens with ume plum vinegar or ....
    I also make miso soup with mushrooms and seaweed- it was recommended that I eat seaweed- not sure about the iodine controversy.

    Try to live somewhere that you can find an affordable health food store so you can find all of these things. Otherwise it is terribly hard and also hard to go out to eat.

    I am taking Thyroxal k-12 has bovine thyroid in it and a bunch of awesome supplements designed specifically for Ha****moto's. I am also taking chinese herbs and getting acupuncture for the root of the problem.

    I think there is a lot of vague information about this subject right now so it is important to share what we learn.

    The best way is to cure, heal, or live with the problem naturally because I have noticed that people who take pharmaceutical medications for this actually see their symptoms worsening over time because their body continues to attack their thyroid while they simply supplement hormones. Perhaps if you can both replace hormones and treat the root problem this would be best?
    I was told that replacing the hormones might make it harder for the thyroid to learn to work again by itself. Kind of vague info though...any thoughts?
  • jenny5314
    jenny5314 Posts: 1
    Actually, diet can help trememdously!! Diagnosed last Feb, I couldn't think clearly and didn't have any energy to get up and do anything. I am a runner and have completed several 10k. So, motivated but But the difference I feel is when I avoid gluten, iodine, and alcohol FAR outweigh the inconvience.

    Synthetic drugs merely mask the symptoms and that doesn't usually last very long.
  • Hi, I'm new to this site, but wanted to share what I have learnt since being diagnosed with Hashimoto nearly 2 years ago. I learnt very quickly that I needed to be gluten and dairy free, BUT, although my health improved, I knew in myself that I was just not progressing as I wanted. By further study I found that I needed to clear my diet of any food with the plant chemical called, Goitrogen. For example bananas, pineapple, strawberry, are allowed on a gluten diet but because of goitrogens, I cannot eat them. If you do a study you'll find the connection between Hashimoto and goitrogen foods. I'm still searching, because I'm still struggling with Hashi:smile:
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  • vegas711
    vegas711 Posts: 92 Member
    was tired for a few years, gaining weight. Diagnosed with "lazy" Thyroid. on 1 mg Synthroid now, no longer tired, normal weight loss. be very very careful what you read on message boards. See a good Dr. ask friends cause believe it or not there's a ton of people who take this little pill every day with great results and have great Drs.
  • vegas711
    vegas711 Posts: 92 Member
    which is why taking synthroid may "fix" the thyroid but all the symptoms are still there, and after years and years on synthroid, people still have to get their thyroids removed due to ruining them.


    Sounds like you got a bad Dr. Sythroid has fixed all my symptoms. You do not get a thyroid removed because of synthroid. I suggest anyone who may suspect a thyroid problem to get a very simple blood test. Synthroid has been around for decades with very few side effects and very positive results. wow just wow
  • After reading a lot of this information, I figured I would tell my story. I currently treat Hashimoto's naturally and have for the last 2 years. I originally went to a naturopathic doctor for allergies. After running blood work we got results back my TSH was going up. It wasn't off the charts, but was starting to spike. My sister and Mom both have Hashimoto's and supplement with Synthroid. I opted since my levels weren't in an overly high zone to try to treat it naturally with the help of the Naturopath. I went through a year long process of diet eliminations, and lifestyle changes to get the Hashimoto's under control. I also eventually went from being vegetarian, to vegan to eating meat. At one point I was doing protein with every meal and protein shakes twice a day because your thyroid needs the amino acid Tyrosine in order to properly function. I eat a gluten-free, dairy-free, egg-free, soy-free diet now. I also try to abstain from anything that I'm allergic to, which I determined from allergy testing. I supplemented for a while with Selenium, Thyrocsin, fish oil, and multi-vitamins. At the height of my changes I was trying to use all natural body products, and keep away from endocrine disruptors. Utlimately after a year I was able to get my TSH levels into a normal range and also get my anti-bodies into a normal range, which at that point meant that my body was no longer attacking my thyroid, while you can never be CURED of Hashimoto's, you can put it into remission. I maintained my diet and loosened up on the supplements and for a year I was symptom free and felt UHMAZING, and NOT on meds. However, I just had my levels checked and they are rising again, which means something is out of balance again. I'm back on supplements and working through the process again to see if I can get my levels under control before they really spike. To put numbers in perspective when I first saw the Dr. in 2010 my TSH was at 6.15 with the normal range .45-4.5, but we aim for 2.5. By May 2011 I had gotten my TSH to 2.8 and had my anti-bodies (TPO) within a normal range. In January 2012 my level was 2.3, recently when I had labs done in October my levels are at 3.15 so they are going up. I do believe that you can manage this disease without medication. The benefit to trying to treat this naturally is that over time your Thyroid can die or be damaged. See with Synthroid all you are doing is supplementing and giving your thyroid the hormones that it needs to still function. Eventually your thyroid may lower production of T3 and T4 because you are giving it what it needs. Treating Hashimoto's naturally can get your thyroid to function properly. I was able to get mine to work and I felt great when my levels were in range. Not everyone is willing to make these drastic changes, and if you know that's not for you that's fine. If you want to treat the disease naturally, finding a doctor that is knowledgeable and willing to run the tests and work through it with you is imperative. I was only able to get my disease under control because of the guidance my Naturopath gave me. Good luck to all of you, as with any disease, it is different for everyone and we need to listen to our own bodies and know what is best for us. Don't ever stay with a doctor that won't listen to you!
  • This reply is for @SarahBeth17

    Before I start, I want to make it clear that while I don't agree with your methods of "treating" Hashimoto's, I recognise your beliefs and respect that we are all entitled to make whatever choices we want for ourselves. My purpose for this reply is to add another perspective about Hashi's as it sounds to me like you are well-read and are open to information from different sources.

    The thyroid is part of a broader endocrine system that must all be in balance for a person to feel well. In a "normal" person, there are normal levels of T4 in the blood, therefore, the pituitary doesn't need to release thyroid stimulating hormone and all is well. In Hashimoto's sufferers, something (I believe mine was a particularly bad case of tonsillitis when I was younger combined with puberty) causes the cells in the thyroid to alter in some way that the body believes they are antigens. The immune system starts releasing antibodies to attack the thyroid "antigens" which causes a decrease in the amount of T4 being produced which causes the pituitary to register low levels of T4 which causes it to release TSH which causes the thyroid to try to compensate which increases the inflammatory response and release of antibodies thus damaging the thyroid further which causes a decrease in the levels of T4 produced which causes the pituitary gland to release more TSH....... Yeah, you get my point. Telling someone they can "cure" their hashimoto's through diet is like telling someone they can cure their hayfever, allergic hives, anaphylaxis through diet. Taking synthetic T4 merely suppresses the amount of TSH the pituitary is releasing which helps suppress the immune/inflammatory response thus minimising the damage being done to the thyroid. I had a partial thyroidectomy 6 weeks ago to remove a suspicious lump. My thyroid was so damaged by the Hashimoto's that a 2 hour op took the surgeon 3 hours!!! I have since started taking thyroxine and my skin, hair and nails feel amazing!!! Synthetic T4 doesn't damage your thyroid, Hashimoto's damages your thyroid....
  • el8942
    el8942 Posts: 13 Member
    was tired for a few years, gaining weight. Diagnosed with "lazy" Thyroid. on 1 mg Synthroid now, no longer tired, normal weight loss. be very very careful what you read on message boards. See a good Dr. ask friends cause believe it or not there's a ton of people who take this little pill every day with great results and have great Drs.

    Could not have said it better! Just wanted to back you up, as another person doing well on levothyroxine. I'm not sleeping 15 hours a day, gaining weight or feeling so horribly depressed. I have an awesome, caring doctor who measures my levels several times a year and is very responsive to changing my dose when necessary. There really is a ton of misinformation out there!!!
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