Expectations - By MIA Banks

PrincessLaundry
PrincessLaundry Posts: 2,758 Member
edited September 19 in Motivation and Support
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I just wanted to post something about what to expect during the phases of weight loss.

Overview (why I'm posting this)
Over the course of about 7 months on here, I have seen many people succeed, I have also seen some drop off the map. I expect this is because some succumb to the demon that is temptation, and some to the devil that is disappointment. I wanted to give a few "heads up"s to both newcomers and veterans to the site. Some may know already, some may not. But either way, if this helps anyone to set more realistic goals in their own head, I feel like it has done it's job.

Phase 1. The start of a brand new day! (or week, or month, or year)
Expectations are sky high, usually so is motivation and intentions. This is where most people lose the most weight. At the start it's not uncommon to see 4 to 8 lb losses per week. The reasons for this are mostly (sorry to disappoint) water weight. You drop excess water quickly, and you can have up to 5 lbs of water weight. The next biggest reason is the fat that is right next to the blood vessels, the stuff that you put on in the last month or three, it will melt like butter usually.

Phase 2. Reality setting in.
At about week 3 to a month or so, people suddenly realize that they are no longer dropping 8, 6, or even 4 lbs a week. This is a crucial phase in your journey. Expect this, it is natural. You have shocked your body by changing both eating habits and exercise routine. Now it has had a little while to become used to the new lifestyle, it's going to compensate. Your body still doesn't believe it's permenant yet, so it will still try to store some fat, so now that it knows how to regulate it's new metabolic levels, it tries to store fat in earnest. It's not uncommon for people to hit a wall here, no loss for weeks. Expect this as well.

Phase 3. The routine.
At about 2 months or so, your routine is pretty much set, your body is beginning to believe that you really want to STAY the way you are going now. You will start to see more consistent (but lower, usually 1 to 2 lbs a week) loss, also, you should start seeing some muscle tone (depending on how much you had to lose in the first place). If you stop to think, you should realize that you have improved dramatically in your exercise levels. If you do cardio, you should notice how much longer and harder you can work. This is important to realize as it is just as big of an indicator as weight loss. Also, by now you may notice that your clothes no longer fit right. This is also very important. The weight may not be falling off anymore, but you are becoming a smaller person. Weight is arbitrary, if you are building muscle (which your body is doing at a furious pace by now) you won't notice huge losses, but you will notice wholesale changes in the mirror!

Phase 4. Really digging in.
This is where the second wall can happen. You're probably at between 3 and 4 months by now, and if you have gone this far, you feel like you have already succeeded. This is where many people stumble. they are tired of the routine, tired of eating different things from all their friends, limiting their alcohol intake. Basically the shine has worn off. this is when your really need to plant your feet. Maybe change up your exercise routine, make a concentrated effort to find different, but still nutritional food. Talk to people. And examine how far you have come. At this point, no matter how much external motivation you receive, it's all about believing in yourself!

Phase 5. End game.
5 or 6 months in you are probably working on that "last 10 pounds". This can be discouraging for many as it is a slow burn. Remember, your body probably feels like it is where it needs to be, your brain might think you need to lose 10 more, but your body is quite proud of itself now, it feels like it has "Done enough" and it wants to stay RIGHT HERE. The body LIKES to have a little fat around just in case, especially for the ladies (sorry girls, it's just human physiology). If you feel like you still need to lose it, prepare yourself for some guerrilla warfare against your body. Design an exercise regimen that is very dynamic, forget the "same thing every day". Make a plan that challenges you both physically and mentally. Make sure you give yourself a day off here and there to just veg. And by all means, remember, muscle burns fat at rest. So get some weight or resistance training involved.
The last 10 may take 3 to 6 months to lose. I know nobody wants to hear that, but it's true. And forget the idea of increasing your calorie deficit, healthy bodies need good nutrition, your body no longer has the fat reserves to handle the large deficits you could when you were 30 40 or 50 pounds overweight. Better to make it a 3 or 400 calorie deficit (NET, please count your exercise calories too!). It may take a bit longer, but your body will like you for it. Plus it feeds those new muscles and keeps them burning fat, keeps your skin healthy (elasticity is important when you want those places that were stretched out to "snap back") and keeps you from getting head aches and depressed.

Conclusion:

this is what I have learned, not just from my journey, but from others as well on here. It saddens me sometimes to see people hit one of these stages and not recognize it for what it is, a part of the process. If we all can have realistic expectations, then we are more prone to win the fight and stay healthy in the long run. Note that some people will hit these stages harder then others, some may take longer, but for the most part, this is the rule that the exceptions will come from.

Best health to you all!

-Banks

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  • PrincessLaundry
    PrincessLaundry Posts: 2,758 Member
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    I just wanted to post something about what to expect during the phases of weight loss.

    Overview (why I'm posting this)
    Over the course of about 7 months on here, I have seen many people succeed, I have also seen some drop off the map. I expect this is because some succumb to the demon that is temptation, and some to the devil that is disappointment. I wanted to give a few "heads up"s to both newcomers and veterans to the site. Some may know already, some may not. But either way, if this helps anyone to set more realistic goals in their own head, I feel like it has done it's job.

    Phase 1. The start of a brand new day! (or week, or month, or year)
    Expectations are sky high, usually so is motivation and intentions. This is where most people lose the most weight. At the start it's not uncommon to see 4 to 8 lb losses per week. The reasons for this are mostly (sorry to disappoint) water weight. You drop excess water quickly, and you can have up to 5 lbs of water weight. The next biggest reason is the fat that is right next to the blood vessels, the stuff that you put on in the last month or three, it will melt like butter usually.

    Phase 2. Reality setting in.
    At about week 3 to a month or so, people suddenly realize that they are no longer dropping 8, 6, or even 4 lbs a week. This is a crucial phase in your journey. Expect this, it is natural. You have shocked your body by changing both eating habits and exercise routine. Now it has had a little while to become used to the new lifestyle, it's going to compensate. Your body still doesn't believe it's permenant yet, so it will still try to store some fat, so now that it knows how to regulate it's new metabolic levels, it tries to store fat in earnest. It's not uncommon for people to hit a wall here, no loss for weeks. Expect this as well.

    Phase 3. The routine.
    At about 2 months or so, your routine is pretty much set, your body is beginning to believe that you really want to STAY the way you are going now. You will start to see more consistent (but lower, usually 1 to 2 lbs a week) loss, also, you should start seeing some muscle tone (depending on how much you had to lose in the first place). If you stop to think, you should realize that you have improved dramatically in your exercise levels. If you do cardio, you should notice how much longer and harder you can work. This is important to realize as it is just as big of an indicator as weight loss. Also, by now you may notice that your clothes no longer fit right. This is also very important. The weight may not be falling off anymore, but you are becoming a smaller person. Weight is arbitrary, if you are building muscle (which your body is doing at a furious pace by now) you won't notice huge losses, but you will notice wholesale changes in the mirror!

    Phase 4. Really digging in.
    This is where the second wall can happen. You're probably at between 3 and 4 months by now, and if you have gone this far, you feel like you have already succeeded. This is where many people stumble. they are tired of the routine, tired of eating different things from all their friends, limiting their alcohol intake. Basically the shine has worn off. this is when your really need to plant your feet. Maybe change up your exercise routine, make a concentrated effort to find different, but still nutritional food. Talk to people. And examine how far you have come. At this point, no matter how much external motivation you receive, it's all about believing in yourself!

    Phase 5. End game.
    5 or 6 months in you are probably working on that "last 10 pounds". This can be discouraging for many as it is a slow burn. Remember, your body probably feels like it is where it needs to be, your brain might think you need to lose 10 more, but your body is quite proud of itself now, it feels like it has "Done enough" and it wants to stay RIGHT HERE. The body LIKES to have a little fat around just in case, especially for the ladies (sorry girls, it's just human physiology). If you feel like you still need to lose it, prepare yourself for some guerrilla warfare against your body. Design an exercise regimen that is very dynamic, forget the "same thing every day". Make a plan that challenges you both physically and mentally. Make sure you give yourself a day off here and there to just veg. And by all means, remember, muscle burns fat at rest. So get some weight or resistance training involved.
    The last 10 may take 3 to 6 months to lose. I know nobody wants to hear that, but it's true. And forget the idea of increasing your calorie deficit, healthy bodies need good nutrition, your body no longer has the fat reserves to handle the large deficits you could when you were 30 40 or 50 pounds overweight. Better to make it a 3 or 400 calorie deficit (NET, please count your exercise calories too!). It may take a bit longer, but your body will like you for it. Plus it feeds those new muscles and keeps them burning fat, keeps your skin healthy (elasticity is important when you want those places that were stretched out to "snap back") and keeps you from getting head aches and depressed.

    Conclusion:

    this is what I have learned, not just from my journey, but from others as well on here. It saddens me sometimes to see people hit one of these stages and not recognize it for what it is, a part of the process. If we all can have realistic expectations, then we are more prone to win the fight and stay healthy in the long run. Note that some people will hit these stages harder then others, some may take longer, but for the most part, this is the rule that the exceptions will come from.

    Best health to you all!

    -Banks

    ______________________________________________________________________
  • jamerz3294
    jamerz3294 Posts: 1,824 Member
    Thanx PL for posting this! Maybe you could ask Mike to pin it?
  • ErinRNinMaine
    ErinRNinMaine Posts: 460 Member
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  • ErinRNinMaine
    ErinRNinMaine Posts: 460 Member
    Phase 5. End game.
    5 or 6 months in you are probably working on that "last 10 pounds". This can be discouraging for many as it is a slow burn. Remember, your body probably feels like it is where it needs to be, your brain might think you need to lose 10 more, but your body is quite proud of itself now, it feels like it has "Done enough" and it wants to stay RIGHT HERE. The body LIKES to have a little fat around just in case, especially for the ladies (sorry girls, it's just human physiology). If you feel like you still need to lose it, prepare yourself for some guerrilla warfare against your body. Design an exercise regimen that is very dynamic, forget the "same thing every day". Make a plan that challenges you both physically and mentally. Make sure you give yourself a day off here and there to just veg. And by all means, remember, muscle burns fat at rest. So get some weight or resistance training involved.
    The last 10 may take 3 to 6 months to lose. I know nobody wants to hear that, but it's true. And forget the idea of increasing your calorie deficit, healthy bodies need good nutrition, your body no longer has the fat reserves to handle the large deficits you could when you were 30 40 or 50 pounds overweight. Better to make it a 3 or 400 calorie deficit (NET, please count your exercise calories too!). It may take a bit longer, but your body will like you for it. Plus it feeds those new muscles and keeps them burning fat, keeps your skin healthy (elasticity is important when you want those places that were stretched out to "snap back") and keeps you from getting head aches and depressed.
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    I can so relate to this Phase. I've been on here since April-dedicated to daily intense exercise, eating right, eating my exercise calories. I've only lost 6 pounds since April. Granted I'm down to my last 13, but it's kind of a crappy place to be--feeling like I'm busting my butt for "nothing".

    Anyway, thanks for the post. It really puts things into perspective!
  • Jackie_W
    Jackie_W Posts: 1,676 Member
    Thanks for posting this, I dropped off after 3 weeks originally :blushing: but...I re-evaluated myself and came back :happy: I've beenback here for 6 weeks now :bigsmile: So I guess I'm on phase 2 now :bigsmile:

    Looking forward to reaching phase 3 soon :bigsmile:
  • Fab140
    Fab140 Posts: 1,976 Member
    Thanks Princess.....I think we're all feeling a little sad about Banks leaving....His wise words has helped us all.

    :cry:
  • PrincessLaundry
    PrincessLaundry Posts: 2,758 Member

    I can so relate to this Phase. I've been on here since April-dedicated to daily intense exercise, eating right, eating my exercise calories. I've only lost 6 pounds since April. Granted I'm down to my last 13, but it's kind of a crappy place to be--feeling like I'm busting my butt for "nothing".

    Anyway, thanks for the post. It really puts things into perspective!

    It is important to remember that you ARE doing it for something...maybe your body doesn't want to budge more??? You are doing a great job eating healthier and working out. Just keep up the fantabulous work on that and know you ARE doing something!

    Here's to better health! :drinker:
  • tresa1234
    tresa1234 Posts: 796 Member
    This was amazingly helpful ... thank you for finding it and posting it Princess L!! It really helped me understand my weight loss journey so far ... I've gotten stuck at the wall of Phase 4 **every** **single** time I've ever been even marginally successful at losing weight. Now that I know it's part of the process I can pay more attention to what I need to keep doing.

    Right now I'm just at phase 2 and was wondering why my weight loss has basically stopped even though I'm doing all the right things. NOW I understand! I was going to keep plugging away at it, but now I won't feel discouraged at all.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! And thank you, especially, Banks, even though you're not here any more! I wish I'd found this site earlier!!

    :heart: :flowerforyou: :heart: :flowerforyou: :heart:

    P.S. This would be a very very helpful post for everybody, especially newbies ... is there a way to make it a "sticky" or whatever they're called here??
  • kellch
    kellch Posts: 7,849 Member
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    Phase 4. Really digging in.
    This is where the second wall can happen. You're probably at between 3 and 4 months by now, and if you have gone this far, you feel like you have already succeeded. This is where many people stumble. they are tired of the routine, tired of eating different things from all their friends, limiting their alcohol intake. Basically the shine has worn off. this is when your really need to plant your feet. Maybe change up your exercise routine, make a concentrated effort to find different, but still nutritional food. Talk to people. And examine how far you have come. At this point, no matter how much external motivation you receive, it's all about believing in yourself!


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    This is definately where I'm at. BUT ummmmmmm I'm more in like my 10th-11th month....I fell off and got back on a few times :embarassed: :laugh: And I have been frustrated the past few weeks and slowed down on the working out and going over on calories:grumble: But I'm back in it. I've come this far I can't go back again. I won't let it happen. I have gained 2 lbs back in the past 3 weeks :sad: Still have to update the ticker :grumble: I DONT WANNA :sad: :sad: :laugh: But I'm baaaaaaaccckkkkkk :bigsmile: :drinker:
  • kellch
    kellch Posts: 7,849 Member
    OH and by the way thanks for reposting this I was looking for it before and couldnt find it :flowerforyou: :smooched:
  • Fitness_Chick
    Fitness_Chick Posts: 6,648 Member
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    I just wanted to post something about what to expect during the phases of weight loss.

    Overview (why I'm posting this)
    Over the course of about 7 months on here, I have seen many people succeed, I have also seen some drop off the map. I expect this is because some succumb to the demon that is temptation, and some to the devil that is disappointment. I wanted to give a few "heads up"s to both newcomers and veterans to the site. Some may know already, some may not. But either way, if this helps anyone to set more realistic goals in their own head, I feel like it has done it's job.

    Phase 1. The start of a brand new day! (or week, or month, or year)
    Expectations are sky high, usually so is motivation and intentions. This is where most people lose the most weight. At the start it's not uncommon to see 4 to 8 lb losses per week. The reasons for this are mostly (sorry to disappoint) water weight. You drop excess water quickly, and you can have up to 5 lbs of water weight. The next biggest reason is the fat that is right next to the blood vessels, the stuff that you put on in the last month or three, it will melt like butter usually.

    Phase 2. Reality setting in.
    At about week 3 to a month or so, people suddenly realize that they are no longer dropping 8, 6, or even 4 lbs a week. This is a crucial phase in your journey. Expect this, it is natural. You have shocked your body by changing both eating habits and exercise routine. Now it has had a little while to become used to the new lifestyle, it's going to compensate. Your body still doesn't believe it's permenant yet, so it will still try to store some fat, so now that it knows how to regulate it's new metabolic levels, it tries to store fat in earnest. It's not uncommon for people to hit a wall here, no loss for weeks. Expect this as well.

    Phase 3. The routine.
    At about 2 months or so, your routine is pretty much set, your body is beginning to believe that you really want to STAY the way you are going now. You will start to see more consistent (but lower, usually 1 to 2 lbs a week) loss, also, you should start seeing some muscle tone (depending on how much you had to lose in the first place). If you stop to think, you should realize that you have improved dramatically in your exercise levels. If you do cardio, you should notice how much longer and harder you can work. This is important to realize as it is just as big of an indicator as weight loss. Also, by now you may notice that your clothes no longer fit right. This is also very important. The weight may not be falling off anymore, but you are becoming a smaller person. Weight is arbitrary, if you are building muscle (which your body is doing at a furious pace by now) you won't notice huge losses, but you will notice wholesale changes in the mirror!

    Phase 4. Really digging in.
    This is where the second wall can happen. You're probably at between 3 and 4 months by now, and if you have gone this far, you feel like you have already succeeded. This is where many people stumble. they are tired of the routine, tired of eating different things from all their friends, limiting their alcohol intake. Basically the shine has worn off. this is when your really need to plant your feet. Maybe change up your exercise routine, make a concentrated effort to find different, but still nutritional food. Talk to people. And examine how far you have come. At this point, no matter how much external motivation you receive, it's all about believing in yourself!

    Phase 5. End game.
    5 or 6 months in you are probably working on that "last 10 pounds". This can be discouraging for many as it is a slow burn. Remember, your body probably feels like it is where it needs to be, your brain might think you need to lose 10 more, but your body is quite proud of itself now, it feels like it has "Done enough" and it wants to stay RIGHT HERE. The body LIKES to have a little fat around just in case, especially for the ladies (sorry girls, it's just human physiology). If you feel like you still need to lose it, prepare yourself for some guerrilla warfare against your body. Design an exercise regimen that is very dynamic, forget the "same thing every day". Make a plan that challenges you both physically and mentally. Make sure you give yourself a day off here and there to just veg. And by all means, remember, muscle burns fat at rest. So get some weight or resistance training involved.
    The last 10 may take 3 to 6 months to lose. I know nobody wants to hear that, but it's true. And forget the idea of increasing your calorie deficit, healthy bodies need good nutrition, your body no longer has the fat reserves to handle the large deficits you could when you were 30 40 or 50 pounds overweight. Better to make it a 3 or 400 calorie deficit (NET, please count your exercise calories too!). It may take a bit longer, but your body will like you for it. Plus it feeds those new muscles and keeps them burning fat, keeps your skin healthy (elasticity is important when you want those places that were stretched out to "snap back") and keeps you from getting head aches and depressed.

    Conclusion:

    this is what I have learned, not just from my journey, but from others as well on here. It saddens me sometimes to see people hit one of these stages and not recognize it for what it is, a part of the process. If we all can have realistic expectations, then we are more prone to win the fight and stay healthy in the long run. Note that some people will hit these stages harder then others, some may take longer, but for the most part, this is the rule that the exceptions will come from.

    Best health to you all!

    -Banks

    ______________________________________________________________________
    Always some of the greatest learning posts came from Banks knowledge and plain common sense.

    I hope his posts continue to circulate and that folks really READ through them and put them into action....and appreciate the time he always took out to help further folks along the journey....

    For it's true.....this is NOT a diet group......it's a Group started for folks to realize they could STOP dieting and instead change their lives to create a healthier lifestyle, A lifelong change......takes a lifetime .....it's a journey without end........not a temorary fix to lose the lbs. and then move one. It's really not even about the pounds...but building ourselves along the way...learning to love ourselves exactly where we're at (no that doesn't give licence to keep abusing our bodies) this very moment.

    THAT and ONLY that will help us move on to make permanant changes in our lives.

    Hope this is one of many of BANKS posts that gets a good bumpin now and then!:drinker:
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I have that link in my Favorites, along with Plateu busters.

    :flowerforyou: :ohwell:
  • kellch
    kellch Posts: 7,849 Member
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    I
    Always some of the greatest learning posts came from Banks knowledge and plain common sense.

    I hope his posts continue to circulate and that folks really READ through them and put them into action....and appreciate the time he always took out to help further folks along the journey....

    For it's true.....this is NOT a diet group......it's a Group started for folks to realize they could STOP dieting and instead change their lives to create a healthier lifestyle, A lifelong change......takes a lifetime .....it's a journey without end........not a temorary fix to lose the lbs. and then move one. It's really not even about the pounds...but building ourselves along the way...learning to love ourselves exactly where we're at (no that doesn't give licence to keep abusing our bodies) this very moment.

    THAT and ONLY that will help us move on to make permanant changes in our lives.

    Hope this is one of many of BANKS posts that gets a good bumpin now and then!:drinker:

    HERE HERE :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:
  • Fitness_Chick
    Fitness_Chick Posts: 6,648 Member
    Phase 5. End game.
    5 or 6 months in you are probably working on that "last 10 pounds". This can be discouraging for many as it is a slow burn. Remember, your body probably feels like it is where it needs to be, your brain might think you need to lose 10 more, but your body is quite proud of itself now, it feels like it has "Done enough" and it wants to stay RIGHT HERE. The body LIKES to have a little fat around just in case, especially for the ladies (sorry girls, it's just human physiology). If you feel like you still need to lose it, prepare yourself for some guerrilla warfare against your body. Design an exercise regimen that is very dynamic, forget the "same thing every day". Make a plan that challenges you both physically and mentally. Make sure you give yourself a day off here and there to just veg. And by all means, remember, muscle burns fat at rest. So get some weight or resistance training involved.
    The last 10 may take 3 to 6 months to lose. I know nobody wants to hear that, but it's true. And forget the idea of increasing your calorie deficit, healthy bodies need good nutrition, your body no longer has the fat reserves to handle the large deficits you could when you were 30 40 or 50 pounds overweight. Better to make it a 3 or 400 calorie deficit (NET, please count your exercise calories too!). It may take a bit longer, but your body will like you for it. Plus it feeds those new muscles and keeps them burning fat, keeps your skin healthy (elasticity is important when you want those places that were stretched out to "snap back") and keeps you from getting head aches and depressed.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    I can so relate to this Phase. I've been on here since April-dedicated to daily intense exercise, eating right, eating my exercise calories. I've only lost 6 pounds since April. Granted I'm down to my last 13, but it's kind of a crappy place to be--feeling like I'm busting my butt for "nothing".

    Anyway, thanks for the post. It really puts things into perspective!
    Erin...Wow....you really feel like you're 'busting your butt for nothing'??? Do you feel bettter after working out? More energy? More confidence? I see so many of us get so caught up in the numbers game and want to give up so easily.... it's tough when you hit a spot where it may appear on the scale you're not losing. But the whole time this is happening...our bodies are working on making all sorts of changes!! Building muscles, strengthening our hearts and other vital organs...our bones are lovin us for the strenght training we do and the list goes on.:drinker:

    Self esteem.....we build that up the entire time we walk this path....and yes, it truly is a lifelong path.....if all working out did was gave us was 'self esteem'......that would be fine by me....but i have gotten SO MUCH more out of this journey.:heart:

    :flowerforyou: all the best to you all on your journeys :drinker:
  • tall_t
    tall_t Posts: 251
    This article helped me more than any. Thank you for this. I am at Phase 2 and I had been starting to get discouraged. Now I feel much better and have the motivation to get to Phase 3, 4, and 5.

    Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention Princess Laundry!
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