Sugar allowance is ridiculous!

purplepollypops

All I 've had today so far is a small banana and a small nectarine and already my sugar allowance has gone!
So stupid, I've decided not to track this anymore because it's really annoying me seeing it in red when I haven't done anything wrong :grumble:

Julezebub

I change my sugar allowance to uk government guidelines 80g. Its been suggested that fructose should have its own category as its not good to be discouraging people from having a reasonable amout of fruit is it.

maxinethestrange

thank you i go over everyday because i eat fruit ... it is stupid and makes me mad

Driagnor

Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about the fructose from fruit. As long as you watch your refined sugar intake, a bit of fructose isn't going to kill you.

laddyboy

It's not that fruit is bad it's just that all sugar causes a rise in Insulin which causes / or promotes fat storage...especially around the belly. Limiting sugar...especially the added and refined crap will help with weight loss and cut down the risk of a whole bunch of bad things that can happen to our bodies. Aslo keep in mind that white starches at a lot like sugar in the body. Cut out all the white posions in your diet and things will move along quicker too.

melaniecheeks

The site's only a piece of software, no need to get mad!

Change your sugar allowance to what you think it should be for you.

MellowYellowGem

I was the same, I stopped tracking it because of that & track sat fat now instead, more important than sugar I think.

i_love_vinegar

I thought I was the only one!!! :laugh: I used to eat so much candy, that in high school when I brought my lunch and forgot about a potluck, I would still have a party size amount. Last semesters typical candy intake per day was: Jamba Juice white/red/sour patch beverage (up to 3 per day...yeah, Im sick lol), two brownies, two cookies, a candy bar, and maybe an icecream bar...
or 1/2 container Haagen Daaz...

And that wasn't on a snacking day. :noway:

So, suffice to say, I have cut out nearly all the above except on occasion...If my health has been considered great my entire life and I've been eating that much, I don't think a little over will hurt.

bluefox9er

I totally ignore the sugar table...before I embraced this lifestyle change, i used to eat TONS and TONS of the stuff. Now I have virtually eliminated it from my diet. Mfp does drive me a bit crazy saying my sugar allowances have been exceeded but I ignore it, knowing that it is sugar from mostly fruit etc and not the refined stuff...

Schwiggity

*still wonders why people track sugar*

jluscious

There is nothing wrong with the natural sugars found in fruit. I wouldn't worry about that at all. Eat all the fruits and veggies you like! Its the processed sugar you need to track and try to eliminate. Check the grams of sugar on any product you buy that is not completely natural. After reading Jackie Warner's book last fall, I learned that if you can keep your *processed* sugar intake under 5g per meal (based on a 5 meal day so you don't go over 25g per day) then you're on the right track!

schninie82

Yeah, I can relate to this... I am over on sugar constantly! I was tracking it but stopped now.. I snack on fruit while sitting at my desk all day... I don't drink teas and coffee with sugar and I keep away from sugary things so I know 90% of my sugar intake is from fruit.. I'm always about 20g's over...

Ilovedrinkingtea

Blow this, I'm going to stop tracking it too xx

purplepollypops

Blow this, I'm going to stop tracking it too xx

lol

dleithaus

It's not that fruit is bad it's just that all sugar causes a rise in Insulin which causes / or promotes fat storage...especially around the belly. Limiting sugar...especially the added and refined crap will help with weight loss and cut down the risk of a whole bunch of bad things that can happen to our bodies. Aslo keep in mind that white starches at a lot like sugar in the body. Cut out all the white posions in your diet and things will move along quicker too.

Yes. And sugar is sugar. Why would anyone think that "fructose" in fruit is different than High Fructose Corn Syrup. In fact there sufficient evidence that sucrose is probably better than fructose in the realm of metabolism... so where does that leave us?

Sorry, sugar is pretty much sugar. The reason that nutritionists and MFP track sugar is the same reason that we track fat, protein, and carbs. The composition of the calories you eat every day is as important as counting those calories. What MFP has done for me is slowly move me towards food that I find more sustaining. Carb laden foods, including potatoes, rice, and pasta, should be eaten sparingly.... not because they have carbs, but because they spike blood sugar and can make you hungrier sooner than if you ate something with lower glycemic load. Fruit is on the list for that exact reason.

All that said, fruit is something that should be part of a moderated diet. You should pay attention to your entire diet. Why get angry? As long as you are not way over you should be fine, and keep counting those calories.

tiabirdie56

Eat a wide variety of fruits. We tend to eat the same fruits all the time and usually the sweetest ones. Use a portion of the high sugar fruits along with berries or other low to medium sugar fruits in a smoothie. I drink fruit smoothies and make them for my son everyday. Only use fruit and water with a half serving of 100% fruit juice and ice. Yummy, low sugar and low calorie, very satisfying, full of fiber.

Berries, melons, apples, peaches, grapefruits are lower in fructose than bananas, pineapples, grapes, cherries and mangoes

_Sally_

It's not that fruit is bad it's just that all sugar causes a rise in Insulin which causes / or promotes fat storage...especially around the belly. Limiting sugar...especially the added and refined crap will help with weight loss and cut down the risk of a whole bunch of bad things that can happen to our bodies. Aslo keep in mind that white starches at a lot like sugar in the body. Cut out all the white posions in your diet and things will move along quicker too.

Yes. And sugar is sugar. Why would anyone think that "fructose" in fruit is different than High Fructose Corn Syrup. In fact there sufficient evidence that sucrose is probably better than fructose in the realm of metabolism... so where does that leave us?

Sorry, sugar is pretty much sugar. The reason that nutritionists and MFP track sugar is the same reason that we track fat, protein, and carbs. The composition of the calories you eat every day is as important as counting those calories. What MFP has done for me is slowly move me towards food that I find more sustaining. Carb laden foods, including potatoes, rice, and pasta, should be eaten sparingly.... not because they have carbs, but because they spike blood sugar and can make you hungrier sooner than if you ate something with lower glycemic load. Fruit is on the list for that exact reason.

All that said, fruit is something that should be part of a moderated diet. You should pay attention to your entire diet. Why get angry? As long as you are not way over you should be fine, and keep counting those calories.

Yes, I agree that sugar is sugar, but fruit isn't made from chemicals and is naturally packaged with fiber as well, which helps your body process it differently than high fructose corn syrup or other refined sugars. I agree that minimizing/eliminating white four, refined sugar, etc and keeping fruit moderate (2 - 4 servings a day) while emphasizing non-starchy veggies is best for overall health and weight loss.

Regarding sugar tracking on MFP, I removed that as well, as it didn't make sense to me. I can see how this could be helpful if you need to track this for medical purposes, and in that case, get the correct daily target from your doctor and adjust MFP.

Azdak

Here is an interesting review of a relevant study. One problem with the whole "sugar" debate is that it is distorted by TONS of ideology and emotional assertions, which tend to overwhelm the facts.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/the-effect-of-two-energy-restricted-diets-a-low-fructose-diet-vs-a-moderate-natural-fructose-diet-research-review.html

calliope_music

Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about the fructose from fruit. As long as you watch your refined sugar intake, a bit of fructose isn't going to kill you.

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dleithaus

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Yes, I agree that sugar is sugar, but fruit isn't made from chemicals and is naturally packaged with fiber as well, which helps your body process it differently than high fructose corn syrup or other refined sugars.
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Sorry. Not true.
Everything is made of "chemicals".
Sugar is not "processed differently".
It may be processed more slowly because of the surrounding matrix, but the metabolic pathways to use that energy are the same.

And, this is the short list of what is in an orange..... organic and natural.

Water, glucose, fructose, galactose, phenolic glycosides, 6-deoxyaldohexoses (fuctose and rhamnose), saccharose, galacturonans, (1-4) linked D-galactopiranuronic acid, pectin, pectinic acids, polygalacturonic acids, pectinestarase, Citric Acid, L-Malic Acid, D-Isocitric Acid, Oxalic Acid, Succinic Acid, Malonic Acid, Quinic Acid, Tartaric Acid, Adipic Acid, 2-ketogluratic Acid, praline, asparagines, aspartic acid, serine, glutamic acid and arginine. oxidoreductases, transferases, hydrolases and lyases, isomerases and ligases, glucosilglucerides, Carotenoids, tetraterpenes, limonin, aslimonoic acid A-ring lactone, neohesperidosides, flavones (3-hydroxyflavanones, 3-dydroxyflavones, O-glycosyl, aglycones C-glycosylflavones, Anthocyanins, (hesperidin, naringin, poncirin, neoheriocitrin, neohesperidin, rhoifolin, rutin, diosmin, sinensetin, auranetin, tangeritin, hydroxyethylrutinosideres, nobiletin cyanidin-3-glucoside, cyanidina-3.5-diglucoside, peonidin-5-glucoside, delphinidin-3-glucoside, petunidin-3-glucoside, Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid), Pholacine, Vitamin B6, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Biotin, Pantotenic acid, Vitamin A.

Elle408

I'm on about 100g a day, I've tried cutting it down but with the types of foods I like to eat it's just not possible. My skimmed milk has lots of sugar, I have tomatoes every day and they're full of it, there's sugar in my yoghurt and my cereal, despite choosing the healthier options and I always have two pieces of fruit a day! I have literally given up caring about it and I still lost the weight, I've kept it off for four months now and I don't have any belly fat... So I don't see it being too much of a problem!