Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead: Joe Cross Juice Diet
Replies
-
Hi everyone ,I have watched the documentary myself.I think joe's main goal was to get healthy ,he had an autoimmune disease! In the process he lost weight,I have been on it for 2 weeks,I only had juice for one day and ate whole foods with the juice(.For me drinking just juice is not possible)Now i have one in the morning mix with protein powder,I eat whole foods as much as possible.like Joe I have an autoimmune disease to,When I watched the documentary, I was more of thinking of my disease,I feel great since i been juicing I have been eating whole foods and in the process I have lost 3 pounds.I will be sticking with the whole foods so maybe I can get off my meds! I am taking the weight lost slow!0
-
I've seen this documentary too and really enjoyed it!! He DOES say doing it for 90 days isn't something that everyone should or could do. And yes he wasn't getting rid of a skin disease that medicine was not helping. His experiment was extreme! I think juicing in general is GREAT! Should it be used long term....no. Is it a lifestyle change....no. But I do think doing it for 7 days isn't going to harm anyone. It's not to be used as a quick fix though.0
-
Sorry....he WAS trying to get rid of the skin disease0
-
I also saw the Documentary on Netflix and would like to try it. Not for 10 days as I do not need to lose more weight.
I started my journey on MFP in December and already lost 47lbs. I've been working on maintenance since June 03rd.
doing well if I may add (1 or 2 lbs up and down, sort of what I expected)
I feel I do not eat enough vegetables or fruits and my hardest time is at night when I get back from work (9:30pm and later ) I need something sweet.
I was thinking about a juice in the morning to replace my 3 cups of coffee (coffee is getting expensive and i may do better with fruits and veggies) and a juice at night when I get back from work (instead of eating ice cream, or a small bar)
Any ideas or recipes? Maybe a cleansing for 2 days then booster for morning and something I won;t be up all night?? :laugh:
Also how should I consider the calories since I've been counting calories for so long.
Thanks for any help
0 -
Emmaleigh et al, I juiced for 7 days solid in January 2010, it got me to adopt a much healthier lifestyle that included running and eating better. 18 months later and I am fifty pounds lighter, you cannot say this is a fad diet. How do you explain my weight loss?0
-
Emmaleigh et al, I juiced for 7 days solid in January 2010, it got me to adopt a much healthier lifestyle that included running and eating better. 18 months later and I am fifty pounds lighter, you cannot say this is a fad diet. How do you explain my weight loss?
Because your weight loss was not a direct result of the juicing... it was a result of the healthier lifestyle. You could have done it without the juicing by just starting to live as the thinner, healthier you.0 -
I know I'll get flamed for this:
But half of you are ridiculous and either 1) Didn't watch the documentary or 2) Completely missed the point of the film.
One person got it right with the fact that a major reason he did this was his disease, but the biggest thing is that you are supposed to be cleansing your body to help change your life. Whether or not it's a "myth" doesn't matter. The way people are claiming to feel and the results CLEARLY shown by the doctors examinations in the film are evidence enough that, in the least, it's beneficial.
This is not a "weight loss" program. It's not a "diet". It's a "fast". People fast for different reasons. This helped one lady in the film with her migraines which she no longer has. That's reason enough.
"You'll gain all the weight back". Yeah if you go back to the lifestyle that got you to where you are. The primary point of the film, which he clearly states, is that this is a total lifestyle change, not a diet. (Referring to the common term of "dieting" and not your overall eating habits.)
"This doesn't teach you portion control". Are you serious...? Do you want the guy to plan out your life for you? As stated - this is not a diet.
I'm sorry if I'm dissing some of your comments but it seriously pisses me off that most people here just don't seem to understand that this is to help cleanse your body and give you a fresh start at a new, healthier life. I just watched the film and will be starting tomorrow. I will try 10 days and see how I feel and whether I should continue or not. Do you seriously think Phil, in the film, could have lost over 130 pounds and gained the health results he did in such a short amount of time any other way? Do you seriously think he'll gain that weight back? Hell no. He's going to take what he's got and run with it. God bless'm.0 -
I don't understand why it has to be so "right" or "wrong". One side did the juicing fast where it did help them in some way shape or form. Feeling better, losing weight, mental clarity, etc. The other side, "slow and steady wins the race". I lost weight the "normal" way and clearly "I am doing something right" as evidenced by my ticker etc. etc.
My thoughts, the people that want to do the juice fast should do it, and find support in those that you can. Those that aren't doing the juice fast (or even watched the documentary most likely for that matter), it's OKAY that someone else is trying something different then what you did.
Like previous poster said... the movie is about SOOO much more then just dropping some pounds. The guys blood pressure dropped to a normal level in less than 60 days, his cholesterol got down to a normal level. Another lady quit having migraines after having debilitating ones for YEARS where she would literally get sick and puke because of them. Another guy had an autoimmune disease go into remission (he too lost a lot of weight that put him in a healthier bracket -- less at risk for heart attack etc.) His brother WHO DID NOT get down to a healthier weight DID have a heart attack during this exact same time frame. Who is to say that he wouldn't have been next? All of the people in the video were monitored every 10 days by a doctor, and were medically cleared, all of their numbers improved to more healthy ones.
All I am saying is it's not ALL about weight loss!0 -
Emmaleigh et al, I juiced for 7 days solid in January 2010, it got me to adopt a much healthier lifestyle that included running and eating better. 18 months later and I am fifty pounds lighter, you cannot say this is a fad diet. How do you explain my weight loss?
Because your weight loss was not a direct result of the juicing... it was a result of the healthier lifestyle. You could have done it without the juicing by just starting to live as the thinner, healthier you.
I disagree with you Emma. If it was not for juicing I would not have a) been able to run for more than 10 mins and b) the rapid weight loss motivated me to get healthier. I tried Atkins, WW, South Beach but nothing motivated me like juicing did. I am now 70lbs lighter and I drink one juice a day and every other month complete a short fast.
I also think Julie is right to say it's not just about weight loss.
Through juicing I got interested in nutrition and eating whole foods. Juicing opened those doors for me. So yes juicing was very much the catalyst behind my weight loss.
Also sometimes if I have overindulged a few days on a juice fast will get me back on the straight and narrow.
Also on my last juice fast I ran my fastest 10k.
For those of you who are openminded on this - I have produced a short video about my experiences along with a free juicing starter guide again based on my own experiences. You can find it on my blog runningonjuice.com0 -
I've actually done it for 2 weeks and lost over 17 pounds. I felt fine throughout the whole 2 weeks
Anyone who really is determined and dedicated , can do it . Trust me, it's well worth it in the end.
I've lost 40 pounds by fasting off and on, over a 2 month period.0 -
Well said soulcheese3!!!0
-
I did it as a cleanse and loved it. I got a juicer for christmas and have since converted half my office to juicers. I don't want to do it as a long diet but I think a few days to a week is healthy every once in a while. Just have to remember to keep the vegetable ratio up higher than the fruit.
I like how it streamlines the nutrients so if gives your body a break and still juice daily but not as an only source of caloric intake. I recently purchased a dehydrator, so I save the pulp and use it in breads, to make dried crackers or in my compost pile so nothing goes to waste.0 -
I am glad to say that I've just completed Day Two successfully! Yesterday I was not hungry and didn't really miss food. Today I was not hungry, but I DID miss "eating" food and by about 9 pm I could have scarfed down a cheeseburger happily! But as you said - it is mental, because I'm truly not hungry.
I have lost about three pounds, but I swear I may gain it back after the huge juice thingie I had for dinner tonight. We'll see. Anyway, I have not had headaches but I was kind of tired today. Not too bad, and it sure didn't stop me from doing all I had to do today, but I could tell my energy level is down a bit. I've heard the third day is pretty rough, so we'll see!0 -
I have a question. Why not eat the fruits and veggies instead of blending them?0
-
I have a friend that did a 10 day cleanse that was primarily salt water and lemonade~after which he began doing protein shakes and whole fruit juices.
He went from 220 lbs to 185 over a period of 1 month and is now in maintenance. He eats lots of whole fruit and veggies and still does protein shakes as well as eating sensibly. He indulges in pizza and other favorites, but is careful about portion sizes and says he feels 100% better.
I looked at this video and his result is about the same as the guy in the vid.
I say, a cleanse is a good way to start and I do not see any harm in doing this every six months or so to keep your intestines free of gunk, but I would opt for the three day on three day off cleanse rather than 10 days.0 -
I have a question. Why not eat the fruits and veggies instead of blending them?
^^^^^ Me too. What's the point of grinding it up and drinking it?0 -
I've never watched the documentary. The longest I've ever juiced was 3 days. I'd like to try to do a 10 day one, though. I have a hard time sleeping because the juice gives me so much energy. I think I look a lot prettier when I juice frequently. It keeps me very hydrated. I usually have chapped lips but not when I juice. Also, juicing makes my eyes bigger and the whites whiter and it takes away any darkness under my eyes. Also, I juice a lot of carrots and it makes my skin orange. Anyway, I just think I look prettier lol. I haven't juiced in about 3 weeks though out of laziness. I've been eating pretty badly. After juicing, I'm always more conscientiousness of what I eat. I've been watching theliferegenerator on youtube on and off for 2 years. This thread has motivated me to do at least another 3 day juice fast.0
-
dont forget that he was also under a Doctor's supervision.0
-
I watched it this weekend and I have started by replacing breakfast and sometimes dinner. My main concern is the extreme lack of protein! when it comes down to it why not give it a try, it won't hurt you and I bet it will help cut any cravings you might have.
Our bodies actually don't need as much protein as we think it does...but a lot of vegetables are pretty high in protein. Beans and spinach are good sources. Also, if you can find spirulina anywhere, it has MASSIVE amounts of protein in it. It's basically algae. You can find it in tablet form at most health food stores and a lot of Asian markets have it fresh.
That's what I'm thinking! As a vegetarian, people feel the need to bug me about it (don't even get me started, a family member recently announced "I'm going to get some MEAT" after interrogating me about being a vegetarian) as if protein is the be all and end all of everything. What most people don't realise is that broccoli has more protein, calorie for calorie, than steak, without all the hormones, cruelty, sat fat etc. People are very misinformed *shakes head*
Anyway, I get enough protein now. I eat better, and have whey protein shakes but too much protein is bad for you, right?
I also wanna try spirulina (but not the powder version, it's hard enough for me to choke down my protein shakes!) so knowing you can get tablets is helpful 0 -
On a side note, why are people getting so angry about this? Is it just MFP people that are ridiculously easily annoyed? I don't think I've yet come across a thread without at least one person being rude or acting arrogant.0
-
Never can get too much protein if you're trying to put on lean muscle!Anyway, I get enough protein now. I eat better, and have whey protein shakes but too much protein is bad for you, right?
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
I haven't tried juicing, but I did a raw food cleanse for 12 days. I experienced diminished cravings, it stopped my blood sugar spikes, my skin was very clear and so was my mind. My sense of smell was keener. I was mentally sharper and had boundless energy (I had to just go to sleep because it was night, not because I was sleepy). I found that when I did the cleanse, it helped to drink a few cups of water right before bed to help sweep out garbage my body tossed as it repaired itself at night. I lost the 10 lbs in January and have not gained it back...not 1 lb of it.
To each his own, but I believe these options are great for jump starting a eating lifestyle change. Juicing a fruit or vegetable makes it easier to digest. Also as far as protein, I've been taking spirulina and drinking juices that contain spirulina for years. It is a superfood and contains a large amount of protein. It provides instant energy beyond measure.0 -
Never can get too much protein if you're trying to put on lean muscle!Anyway, I get enough protein now. I eat better, and have whey protein shakes but too much protein is bad for you, right?
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
But research all points to too much protein being bad for you. I think you can have too much. I agree you should have enough if you're trying to build muscle, or whatever, but I don't think you should overdose on it.0 -
I'd love to see the research.But research all points to too much protein being bad for you. I think you can have too much. I agree you should have enough if you're trying to build muscle, or whatever, but I don't think you should overdose on it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
I watched the document last summer and was happy for the guy. However, from viewing that I went straight to the store and bought a juicer. I then almost passed out from not having any solid food. It was that bad, I started getting extremely dizzy and just about fainted after a while. I just now found out I'm anemic (low end and they are testing me for 3 months) and didn't know that I could drink certain juices to boost red blood cells.0
-
I want to try this after I grow some kale in my garden. I think I might add flaxseed oil, hemp seed and chia seed for some fat and protein and make smoothies rather than just juice.0
-
I haven't tried juicing, but I did a raw food cleanse for 12 days. I experienced diminished cravings, it stopped my blood sugar spikes, my skin was very clear and so was my mind. My sense of smell was keener. I was mentally sharper and had boundless energy (I had to just go to sleep because it was night, not because I was sleepy). I found that when I did the cleanse, it helped to drink a few cups of water right before bed to help sweep out garbage my body tossed as it repaired itself at night. I lost the 10 lbs in January and have not gained it back...not 1 lb of it.
To each his own, but I believe these options are great for jump starting a eating lifestyle change. Juicing a fruit or vegetable makes it easier to digest. Also as far as protein, I've been taking spirulina and drinking juices that contain spirulina for years. It is a superfood and contains a large amount of protein. It provides instant energy beyond measure.
My ultimate goal is to be a raw vegan. The benefits are amazing, not to mention it's kind to the planet and animals.. I can only dream of proper sleep, energy, a clear mind and clear skin. I find it hard, though. Everything I seem to like is cooked or processed.0 -
I'd love to see the research.But research all points to too much protein being bad for you. I think you can have too much. I agree you should have enough if you're trying to build muscle, or whatever, but I don't think you should overdose on it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Google houses thousands of articles.0 -
this is not a good thing.. you will loose water weight... and once you return to solids it will come back just as fast as it left. the only way to loose weight and keep it off is to modify you life style, if you cannot live with it for the rest of your life don't even bother with it.0
-
I'd love to see the research.But research all points to too much protein being bad for you. I think you can have too much. I agree you should have enough if you're trying to build muscle, or whatever, but I don't think you should overdose on it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Google houses thousands of articles.
Find some... Here is one from Google Scholar, just for fun : http://www.ajcn.org/content/82/1/41.short
I searched for 10 minutes in the university's library database (where we have access to the whole paper, not just the abstract like in this link), and could not find much about protein overdose, or negative effects of too much protein in a diet. Found a lot about red meat though, but that is not the same thing by a long shot. If anything, they just proved that the low carb diet even works just because it ups protein at the same time.
As for the juice diet itself, I see this as just part of the whole diet industry mind set. Research again shows that we are getting very good at dieting (losing in a rush then gaining back), but worse and worse at living healthy lives, and stuff like that liquid diet embodies that perfectly.
The ONLY way to succeed in this adventure is to change your lifestyle. Everything else is a side effect (weight loss, better focus, better health...) and the best part is that victory happens on day 1. Don't set yourself up for failure
EDIT : This article should be mandatory reading before trying any form of diet : http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=/BJN/BJN92_S1/S0007114504001680a.pdf&code=38ab4addd25abcef7005a5003ed21b36
It is purely awesome, really.0
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.3K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.2K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.9K Food and Nutrition
- 47.4K Recipes
- 232.5K Fitness and Exercise
- 423 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.5K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.7K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions