Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead

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  • People can't sustain on juicing alone for ever. But it would not be a bad thing to do in moderation. Just like fruit smoothies you have them to supplement your diet not to live on them. Just my two cents.
  • I loved watching that it was informative and motivating. I think its a great jump start to weight loss but i am not sure how sustainable it is.
  • Goal_Line
    Goal_Line Posts: 474 Member
    Don;t drink your food. Drinking cals doesn't leave you as satisfied as eating. Just eat quality real food.
  • minkakross
    minkakross Posts: 687 Member
    for me dieting is about a sustainable lifestyle change so I can't imagine juice fasting as anything other than a jump start into a diet.
  • CommandaPanda
    CommandaPanda Posts: 451 Member
    I think juicing is bull****, but if it works for you then awesome.

    I watched this same documentary, went out and bought myself a Breville juicer (anybody want to buy it? hardly used) and made myself a few juices.

    First, the taste is citric and tastes like grass. The smell is even worse. And then you go out and buy fruit/veggies in bulk just to barely have enough to last you a day? It would be almost impossible to get yourself into a caloric surplus off his diet.


    Anyways, I think he's a genius business man and the people who follow this typical fad diet are just trying to convince themselves that their days suffered, money wasted, and theatrical ordeal they've made of all this hasn't gone in complete vain.
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    I didn't see the show, but I did recently buy a juicer and I make a drink about 2 times a week. I bought the juicer brand new at a local thrift store that gets all the "left overs" from Walmart. Someone must have bought and returned it and since the packaging was damaged Walmart sent it to the thrift store. $20 juicer! For anyone thinking juicers are too expensive, check out the thrift stores or garage sales. It is a good way for me to get the veggies I hate. Like carrots. I hate carrots. But I like carrot and apple juice. I feel like that way I am getting the vitamin benefit from them. Just make sure to log the calories. They add up.

    See, I just don't understand the point. I love steamed carrots. And I love to slice an apple, sprinkle with cinnamon and nutmeg and microwave for 3 minutes and eat. Basically, I like to EAT food not drink it.
  • mistesh
    mistesh Posts: 243 Member
    Don;t drink your food. Drinking cals doesn't leave you as satisfied as eating. Just eat quality real food.

    Yes. Few can eat more than five oranges at a time, but a quart of juice holds twenty two of them, and then what do you do? Not easy to sustain it either. As someone said by the end, "He lost the weight. I hope it continues."
  • IIISpartacusIII
    IIISpartacusIII Posts: 252 Member
    I had a few friends who swore by juice fasting. Some say it isn't healthy because you aren't getting the necessary fiber from the fruits and veggies. you need that roughage.

    This is very true and largely overlooked aspect of juicing. Another is that although you are getting some micro nutrients from the vitamins in the fruits and vegetables that you juice, you're missing out on vital macro nutrients: Protein (essential amino acids), Fat (essential fats {omega 3,6,9) and good old fiber which keeps your digestive system healthy.

    I'm all for a healthier lifestyle and I understand that if "finally took a try at juicing" to finally get some people's weight problems under control but it's a long term nightmare. Any diet that you can't live with for ever is probably not going to work when you finally get back into "maintenance" mode.
  • If you wanna really detox get a vitamix or blendtec and smoothie yourself to right to the bathroom and enjoy. And if you by chance decide that eating that way isn't sustainable you still have a cool blender to use for your making almond milk or baby food for a neice whatever you need. A juicer just makes juice, boooo.
  • ilmb87
    ilmb87 Posts: 216 Member
    My cousin seems to be into the whole "juicing" thing thanks to this documentary. >.> As a few others have already said, I'd rather eat my calories than drink them, especially when it comes to fruits and veggies.
  • iluvwdw
    iluvwdw Posts: 287 Member
    I agree with this movie, in the sense that it worked for these two guys! They did this to reboot their systems from the inside out because mainly they were suffering from chronic uticaria. I am suffering from the same thing right now for the past 7 months, I have gone about 2 weeks without hives. The rest of the time I am covered in red, raised, itchy weals all over my body complimented with a side of angiodema for free on any given day.

    These men were desperate after having dealt with this for nearly 7 years, I cannot imagine. I have been on high dosage steroids for short periods of time and it just does not help and is worse for your body. But after 7 years of this crap, I would be willing to try anything to get my life back.

    My dr. says it is an autoimmune condition and they come from the inside out and there is nothing I can do about it. However, I refuse to give up and believe that we have to suffer with this condition. Although it never goes away, this movie is proof that with food, we can reboot our bodies, and hopefully our immune system.

    As for what I am going to "get out of my body" is the toxins that my body is reacting to. Even though that sometimes includes healthy food like fruits and veggies. Until the immune system is reset, the body will keep attacking itself due to increased inflammation.

    Those with autoimmune issues usually have a tougher time with too much protein anyways, As I have learned too much beef has increased my hives.

    The way I see it, both these men were medically supervised and did not suffer ill effects from the fast and it is not meant to be for long periods of time. As it has been said before, the main intention was from a nutrition standpoint and to address the chronic urticaria they were both experience.

    When Joe came off the juicing he returned to eating a balanced diet and seems to be doing great and still is from what I can tell. As far as the content of their juices daily, I don't think anyone would be able to get that many fruits and veggies in in one day.

    I am considering this as an option for a short term to see if it helps reset my body so that I may enjoy more foods and stop these crazy hives.
  • Woodrow1234
    Woodrow1234 Posts: 20 Member
    I love fresh juice (I have a Breville) as a part of a healthy diet, but I just haven't been able to get past throwing that massive amount of fiber out. I ended up getting a Vitamix and love it.

    I was going to have some baked chicken with salad and fruit for lunch today, but decided to toss the salad (a couple cups of spinach and lettuce) into the vitamix with some apples, water, and ice (sprinkle of stevia leaves). I'll often include a banana and dried goji berries or whole roasted almonds (something that can't be juiced) and that's awesome.

    The Breville has been on the shelf ever since I got the Vitamix. Also...the vitamix (at least this model) has a self-cleaning setting. I just rinse, add water and a drop of soap and it does the rest.

    I've heard that the nutribullet is really good too, but the container isn't as big. I understand it does a reasonable job of breaking down the food though.
  • KarenJanine
    KarenJanine Posts: 3,497 Member
    The guys in the show were morbidly obese and at risk of sudden death at the time they started the juice fast. For them it was a way to initially lose weight quickly to potentially save their lives. It was all done under medical supervision.

    For most people with a smaller amount of weight to lose this would not be recommended as the body does not have enough fat stores to make up the huge deficit and will start wasting muscle for energy.
  • iluvwdw
    iluvwdw Posts: 287 Member
    agree with the above poster
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,993 Member
    Drink juice, don't diet on it.

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  • kellyskitties
    kellyskitties Posts: 475 Member
    I feel like you are better off eating the fruits and veggies instead of juicing them, you will get a lot more nutritional value from them plus it will fill you up more.

    This is my opinion EXACTLY! However, my BFF tried it. she gave in and gave it up. She said it ended up being time consuming and not terribly easy to maintain for her schedule/work/life.

    I personally, would miss chewing too much. I'm a BIG eater and crunching through some veg sometimes is my binge substitute. I need to "fill up" and chew. So wouldn't be a good thing for me.
  • haidos
    haidos Posts: 69
    I'm seriously considering doing a 30-60 day fast so looking at peoples answers.

    I agree that the cost of the fruit and veg will add up considerably though.
  • kellyskitties
    kellyskitties Posts: 475 Member
    I forgot! My BFF said her favorite juice recipe was 2 apples, some spinach and a sleeve of thin mints... She's so funny.

    Not helpful, but thought you'd appreciate the joke :laugh:
  • g0tr00t
    g0tr00t Posts: 192 Member
    I saw it 2 to 3 years ago. I bought a Breville juicer and instead of "fasting", I replaced my lunch with a green drink. I actually changed my whole diet around along with bike riding.

    I still have it for lunch daily. I did notice a lot of changes, those that have done it and stayed with it know what I mean. Healthy skin, energy all around health (no more colds). Prepare for the detox phase.

    If I did it all over again, I would have just bought a Vitamix and made a green drink that way. I own both now and alternate between the two. I am building a garden soon and will use the pulp from the juicer on my compost pile.

    As with anything...30 days of this or that won't last long. A diet is not something that is 1 week, 2 weeks or 1 month. It should be a lifestyle/eating change forever.

    The reason I juice my lunch is I put it in a polar bottle with ice and it goes on my road bike when I go to work. I was getting tired of hauling a few pounds of veggies on my back :)
  • g0tr00t
    g0tr00t Posts: 192 Member
    I love fresh juice (I have a Breville) as a part of a healthy diet, but I just haven't been able to get past throwing that massive amount of fiber out. I ended up getting a Vitamix and love it.

    I was going to have some baked chicken with salad and fruit for lunch today, but decided to toss the salad (a couple cups of spinach and lettuce) into the vitamix with some apples, water, and ice (sprinkle of stevia leaves). I'll often include a banana and dried goji berries or whole roasted almonds (something that can't be juiced) and that's awesome.

    The Breville has been on the shelf ever since I got the Vitamix. Also...the vitamix (at least this model) has a self-cleaning setting. I just rinse, add water and a drop of soap and it does the rest.

    I've heard that the nutribullet is really good too, but the container isn't as big. I understand it does a reasonable job of breaking down the food though.

    Wow, if you had my profile pic, I would think I posted this...lol...this is EXACTLY what I do...haa haa haa haa!!!
  • Woodrow1234
    Woodrow1234 Posts: 20 Member
    I am building a garden soon and will use the pulp from the juicer on my compost pile.

    I put in my 600 sq foot (11 raised beds) garden this year and it's awesome! I have a full 8 x 16 bed devoted to lettuce and spinach. 12 heirloom tomato plants, onions, melons, peppers, carrots, and tons of herbs including stevia. I have three compost bins (nice rolling ones) right next to the bed and 6 hens (they make great compost - and eggs). I'm building a greenhouse for an aquaponics system this fall. Do the garden - you'll love it.
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