Fish Oil Information

lilRicki

I want to know more! Please don't be a douche and rain on my parade, I'm just looking for solid information




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/how-fish-oils-help-balance-your-nutrition-for-optimal-health.htm

ChantalGG

what the heck..? Douches? Isnt hat what Google is for?

lilRicki

No there tends to be people that will rip me apart because I am looking into supplements and not food, I'm just trying to fend them off...I want some personal experiences, I can google with the best of 'em. I'm mainly looking at fish oil for energy boost...no coffee or energy drinks. My diet is low in fat on most days so I'm looking to increase it with fish oil...do you have some input or are you just going to be snotty?

MrCake

I'm personally a fan of fish oil. Along with a multivitamin, its always been a staple in my diet. I'm currently about 3g with every meal, so about 14-16g per day. I definitely feel better with taking fish oil throughout the day as opposed to not, and even consuming my arguably high dose as opposed to the recommended 3g.
I would supplement with fish oil regardless of your diet, and well even more if you are low in fat. Good fat sources to supplement with:
-Coconut oil
-Olive oil
-Fish oil

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/288/Fast_Results_with_Fish_Oil.aspx

*Forgot to mention. With regards to fish oil/fat as an energy booster. In my experience fat won't give you as high a energy spike as with simple carbs (sugar) but it definitely provides a more uniform and prolonged energy. I've had some good long workouts from consuming high fat, high protein meals an hour before.

SageGoddess320

Watch out for fish burps :sick: That's the only thing I hate about taking Fish Oil.

cobaltis

read this http://www.alanaragon.com/fish-oil.html


In Sum...

"Looking at the body of evidence as a whole, fish oil (or increased fish consumption) has great potential for improving cardiovascular health. But for reducing body fat, the effects are minor to nonexistent"

"Having 6-8 oz fatty fish a minimum of 4 times a week would exempt most folks from needing fish oil supplementation. "

"The amount of EPA/DHA per capsule may vary with the brand. Capsules can contain anywhere from 250-500mg. Most healthy folks don’t need more than 3-6 one-gram capsules per day to meet or exceed the amounts that show benefits"

MrCake

Watch out for fish burps :sick: That's the only thing I hate about taking Fish Oil.

I've read in the past that fish burps will be diminished by keeping your fish oil (gel caps) well refrigerated. Not sure how effective that really is, but worth trying.

keith0373

All I know is what my dad told me: "If is smells like fish, you are supposed to eat it" . Not sure that that was good advice. . . .

chelekaz

Our family doctor actually has suggested fish oil caplets for us to start taking ...

cheri0627

My dietitian is not a fan of supplements. She doesn't think you should take them and that you should get all your vitamins and nutrients from food -- with the exception of our Omega-3s. She says that it's really hard to get enough unless you eat the right kinds of fish and flax seeds all the time, and no one can do that.

lilRicki

that was an awesome article...thanx! When do you normally take your fish oil? in the article is said pre-workout...I'm thinking Lunch time? I don't work out until 7:30 at night, and I don't normally get anything in but a snack on the way from my son's football practice to the gym. and 720 is the best amount to take?

jpburcham

I've taken it. If I take it every day, after about 3 weeks, I get nose bleeds for no reason.
It acts as a blood thinner ya know.
I've reduced my dose to every other day without any problems.

lilRicki

I know it's not going to make me lose weight faster...but damn my muscles hurt from this body building routine...and I'm freakin' tired ALL THE TIME! I had a sugar free red bull the other day and it made me almost poop myself...coffee does the same thing. I did the apples and water every single day for a month and it didn't work either...it's partly because I'm bored, but exercise doesn't give me the energy it's suppose to, it kicks my *kitten*...I'm hoping the fish oil will help...

lilRicki

I've taken it. If I take it every day, after about 3 weeks, I get nose bleeds for no reason.
It acts as a blood thinner ya know.
I've reduced my dose to every other day without any problems.

good to know, how many milligrams are you taking?

lilRicki

All I know is what my dad told me: "If is smells like fish, you are supposed to eat it" . Not sure that that was good advice. . . .

it means you're going to eat my face when I fish burp in yours

jg627

Being too low in fat is not good for you. If you need to suppliment, do it, but you can also suppliment by eating certain nuts and seeds or eating more fish. If that's not an option, then fish oil can help, but it's only 1/3 of the game. Dietary fats lubricate your joints, make your hair and nails look healthy and regulate hormone levels, including testosterone. Bodybuilders eat high protein, low fat diets because they take steroids. That's going to shrink your junk, because you're body gets used to having high amounts of testosterone and decides it doesn't need to produce it naturally anymore. Try to get your RDA of dietary fat from equal amounts of saturated, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats and avoid trans fat and you'll produce testosterone without having to shrink your junk with steroids. Get a list of foods high in monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, since those are trickier to get than saturated fat. Google 'monounsaturated fat sources' and 'polyunsaturated fat sources' and pick some things you like eat or try. Walnuts and sunflower seeds are like nature's steroids.

lilRicki

Being too low in fat is not good for you. If you need to suppliment, do it, but you can also suppliment by eating certain nuts and seeds or eating more fish. If that's not an option, then fish oil can help, but it's only 1/3 of the game. Dietary fats lubricate your joints, make your hair and nails look healthy and regulate hormone levels, including testosterone. Bodybuilders eat high protein, low fat diets because they take steroids. That's going to shrink your junk, because you're body gets used to having high amounts of testosterone and decides it doesn't need to produce it naturally anymore. Try to get your RDA of dietary fat from equal amounts of saturated, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats and avoid trans fat and you'll produce testosterone without having to shrink your junk with steroids. Get a list of foods high in monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, since those are trickier to get than saturated fat. Google 'monounsaturated fat sources' and 'polyunsaturated fat sources' and pick some things you like eat or try. Walnuts and sunflower seeds are like nature's steroids.

lol I'm a girl, and i'm doing the toning body building, not the "looks like a man with boobs" body building. I am about to look into recipes that have high omega 3 and 6 fatty acids in it to see if I can offset some of this low fat. it should be pretty easy to find a list eh?

jg627

Being too low in fat is not good for you. If you need to suppliment, do it, but you can also suppliment by eating certain nuts and seeds or eating more fish. If that's not an option, then fish oil can help, but it's only 1/3 of the game. Dietary fats lubricate your joints, make your hair and nails look healthy and regulate hormone levels, including testosterone. Bodybuilders eat high protein, low fat diets because they take steroids. That's going to shrink your junk, because you're body gets used to having high amounts of testosterone and decides it doesn't need to produce it naturally anymore. Try to get your RDA of dietary fat from equal amounts of saturated, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats and avoid trans fat and you'll produce testosterone without having to shrink your junk with steroids. Get a list of foods high in monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, since those are trickier to get than saturated fat. Google 'monounsaturated fat sources' and 'polyunsaturated fat sources' and pick some things you like eat or try. Walnuts and sunflower seeds are like nature's steroids.

lol I'm a girl, and i'm doing the toning body building, not the "looks like a man with boobs" body building. I am about to look into recipes that have high omega 3 and 6 fatty acids in it to see if I can offset some of this low fat. it should be pretty easy to find a list eh?

Woops! My bad :-) Wikipedia has a good list. Walnuts and sunflower seeds are great for omega 6, which is the hardest to get.

cobaltis

that was an awesome article...thanx! When do you normally take your fish oil? in the article is said pre-workout...I'm thinking Lunch time? I don't work out until 7:30 at night, and I don't normally get anything in but a snack on the way from my son's football practice to the gym. and 720 is the best amount to take?

Olive oil (its a "good fat") is the easiest way to add fats, I do it through whatever craving I have that day but I also eat 200g of protein and generally there are enough fats in that much meat to cover me... For those who exercise regularly (I say this with an aproximate of several hours of moderate intensity a week) "bad fats" have little effect and does not matter much.

I also dont take fish oil, I hate taking pills, I always forget. I dont eat enough fish but I have no complaints about my current level of fitness and feeling so I prefer to do things that are sustainable. Taking pills for me is not...

I just wanted to answer your question with facts, not my opinion or what I do. He shows through research it has some cardio benefits etc so if you cant get enough in through eating fish then its worth taking if you desire those cardio benefits. (it also states taking too much can cause excessive bleeding)

lilRicki

that's what i read, that you're suppose to be 1:1 with omega 3 and 6 (what ever the freak that means)...what else can you think of for energy and muscle soreness? I know I just have to get use to it, but seriously the 90 squats with various weights is going to kill me

jg627

that was an awesome article...thanx! When do you normally take your fish oil? in the article is said pre-workout...I'm thinking Lunch time? I don't work out until 7:30 at night, and I don't normally get anything in but a snack on the way from my son's football practice to the gym. and 720 is the best amount to take?

Olive oil is the easiest way to add fats, I do it through whatever craving I have that day but I also eat 200g of protein and generally there are enough fats in that much meat to cover me... For those who exercise regularly (I say this with an aproximate of several hours of moderate intensity a week) "bad fats" have little effect and does not matter much.

I also dont take fish oil, I hate taking pills, I always forget. I dont eat enough fish but I have no complaints about my current level of fitness and feeling so I prefer to do things that are sustainable. Taking pills for me is not...

I just wanted to answer your question with facts, not my opinion or what I do. He shows through research it has some cardio benefits etc so if you cant get enough in through eating fish then its worth taking if you desire those cardio benefits. (it also states taking too much can cause excessive bleeding)

Good call! EVOO is fairly balanced with all the essential fats.

MrCake

that was an awesome article...thanx! When do you normally take your fish oil? in the article is said pre-workout...I'm thinking Lunch time? I don't work out until 7:30 at night, and I don't normally get anything in but a snack on the way from my son's football practice to the gym. and 720 is the best amount to take?

Not sure if you were referring to the article I posted, but I do usually take some with my preworkout meal. As for your time constraints, I would work on trying to improve your preworkout food, be it a snack or meal. Try to eat at least 30-45 minutes before your workout. What does your snack look like? I would recommend something with a fair amount of carbs and protein, and you could take your fish oil along with this. I wouldn't advice taking fish oil by itself as the body would more likely burn throughout without enjoying its added benefits.

lilRicki

Grams of omega-3 fatty acids per 3oz (85g) serving of popular fish.[12]

Common name

grams



Tuna

0.21–1.1



Tuna (canned, light)

0.17-0.24



Pollock

0.45



Salmon

1.1–1.9



Cod

0.15–0.24



Catfish

0.22–0.3



Flounder

0.48



Grouper

0.23



Halibut

0.60–1.12



Mahi mahi

0.13



Orange roughy

0.028



Red snapper

0.29



Shark

0.83



Swordfish

0.97



Tilefish

0.90



King mackerel

0.36

jg627

that's what i read, that you're suppose to be 1:1 with omega 3 and 6 (what ever the freak that means)...what else can you think of for energy and muscle soreness? I know I just have to get use to it, but seriously the 90 squats with various weights is going to kill me

Actually, low weight / high reps for toning is a myth that was created by uninformed people interviewing bodybuilders who were cutting down before competitions. You're better off doing higher weight with less reps. If you think you're getting to big, don't eat as much.

The source of the myth: Body builders usually do extreme bulking to build muscle, but the fat gains are going to be bigger, so they follow long bulking phases with a cutting up phase where they lower their calorie intake to create a calorie deficiency and lose fat to tone their muscles. Now, when you get really big from muscle growth, the amount of intensity required to create new muscle gets higher and higher and harder to reach without eating more than their maintenance calories, so the reason they use lower weight when they're cutting down is because they're weakened by their low calorie diet, so at that point they're using lower weight with higher reps simply to prevent the muscles they have from decaying from atrophy while their low calorie diet tones their muscles.

bcattoes

No there tends to be people that will rip me apart because I am looking into supplements and not food, I'm just trying to fend them off...I want some personal experiences, I can google with the best of 'em. I'm mainly looking at fish oil for energy boost...no coffee or energy drinks. My diet is low in fat on most days so I'm looking to increase it with fish oil...do you have some input or are you just going to be snotty?

I take fish oil supplements but have never experienced an energy boost with them. On days I forget to take them I don't feel any different than on days I do. I do believe they are healthy though, but no energy boost here.

lilRicki

that's what i read, that you're suppose to be 1:1 with omega 3 and 6 (what ever the freak that means)...what else can you think of for energy and muscle soreness? I know I just have to get use to it, but seriously the 90 squats with various weights is going to kill me

Actually, low weight / high reps for toning is a myth that was created by uninformed people interviewing bodybuilders who were cutting down before competitions. You're better off doing higher weight with less reps. If you think you're getting to big, don't eat as much.

The source of the myth: Body builders usually do extreme bulking to build muscle, but the fat gains are going to be bigger, so they follow long bulking phases with a cutting up phase where they lower their calorie intake to create a calorie deficiency and lose fat to tone their muscles. Now, when you get really big from muscle growth, the amount of intensity required to create new muscle gets higher and higher and harder to reach without eating more than their maintenance calories, so the reason they use lower weight when they're cutting down is because they're weakened by their low calorie diet, so at that point they're using lower weight with higher reps simply to prevent the muscles they have from decaying from atrophy while their low calorie diet tones their muscles.

yeah I knew that...but it's full body work outs, not just arms one day, legs the next, chest another day. The 90 squats are part of day 1 of 3 training days. the rest are cardio and rest days...I'm aiming for Jamie Eason type body, not arnold lol

ido10612

I was in a bad car accident last year and have terrible anxiety and panic attacks with driving or even being in a vehicle. My dr suggested that I start taking fish oil as a mood regulator along with my antidepressant. I was taking 4 capsules a day (1200mg each). it def helped. It took about a week to start noticing a difference but it does make me feel better. I have since then been doing much better with my anxiety. I also have hypertension. I still continue to take the fish oil for my heart but have cut it back to 2 a day.

As far helping with weight loss, it does nothing. And there has been no changes in my BP with taking it. But as a mood regulator it def helps if you take a lot. The only down side to taking fish oil is the taste. Always take it with a meal. If you take it on an empty stomach it causes you to burp like crazy and leaves a horrible fishy taste in your mouth! lol

jg627

that's what i read, that you're suppose to be 1:1 with omega 3 and 6 (what ever the freak that means)...what else can you think of for energy and muscle soreness? I know I just have to get use to it, but seriously the 90 squats with various weights is going to kill me

Actually, low weight / high reps for toning is a myth that was created by uninformed people interviewing bodybuilders who were cutting down before competitions. You're better off doing higher weight with less reps. If you think you're getting to big, don't eat as much.

The source of the myth: Body builders usually do extreme bulking to build muscle, but the fat gains are going to be bigger, so they follow long bulking phases with a cutting up phase where they lower their calorie intake to create a calorie deficiency and lose fat to tone their muscles. Now, when you get really big from muscle growth, the amount of intensity required to create new muscle gets higher and higher and harder to reach without eating more than their maintenance calories, so the reason they use lower weight when they're cutting down is because they're weakened by their low calorie diet, so at that point they're using lower weight with higher reps simply to prevent the muscles they have from decaying from atrophy while their low calorie diet tones their muscles.

yeah I knew that...but it's full body work outs, not just arms one day, legs the next, chest another day. The 90 squats are part of day 1 of 3 training days. the rest are cardio and rest days...I'm aiming for Jamie Eason type body, not arnold lol

Then you're already on the right track. Isolation exercises are a waste of time :-) Squats are the single most important exercise you can do.

Maggie_Pie1

I take Nature Made "Triple Omega", which is a combination of fish, flaxseed, safflower, and olive oil. I take one capsule with every meal.

lilRicki

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Then you're already on the right track. Isolation exercises are a waste of time :-) Squats are the single most important exercise you can do.
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yeah to bad they suck so bad