Does it annoy anyone else...
lma0423
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When you hear people talking about and recommending fad diets to people, and raving about how they lost 10 lbs in one week! Then I tryto tell them about counting calories and no one will listen bc it doesn't offer "fast" results?? But little do they know, all that weight loss cannot be sustained
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i had a conversation with a friend last week where she said she wanted to lose some weight so was going on a diet. so i said, maybe you need to look at it as more of a lifestyle change than a diet, to keep it off, like i have done with MFP. her response was that she eats healthily most of the time and her lifestyle is fine!
so why do you need to go on a diet then?!?!?!?!?! its your lifestyle thats making you the (fat) shape you are.... but you're right, go on a diet, lose 10 pounds then stop your diet and put on 12... great idea!!!!
it annoyed me a bit, if you cant tell....!!0 -
I know what you mean. It annoys me almost as much as people who fake a healthy lifestyle. My mom is the worst at that. She will go to the gym, then order Chinese or get Mcdonalds and claim she "earned" it at the gym. It doesn't work that way! I even recommended MFP to her since she could get the app on her phone but she didn't sign up. It's so frustrating to watch so I've given up. I gave my advice and that the end of it.0
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Just smile and nod and let them do their thing. Let them be the guinea pig and if it works, then try it for an "emergency" special occasion. If they gain it all back, laugh while nibbling on your celery sticks.
Don't let it bother you, let it amuse you!0 -
No matter what deit you do or even if you just watch your calories and exercise if you stop and go back to eating all the same old crap you will gain the weight back. Being healthy is not about doing diets, it's about changing your views on food and exercise and sticking with it. Yes I did HCG and it worked great for me, yes I could gain all of the weight back if I go back to eating the way I did before!!! But so can anyone who losses weight doing it the old fashioned way. Look at some of the people from Biggest Loser they lost the weight with diet and exercise and some of them quite doing what they should have done and have gained all the wieght back!!! So lets not blame it on just the fad diets, anyone can gain the weight back that they have lost.0
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It is annoying, but there is nothing we can say or do that is going to change their mind. Because they are seeing results on the scale, they are brainwashed into believing what they're doing is the correct way. The only thing that will get them doing the healthy way of losing weight is time. When they learn that it isn't all that effective, especially for long term weight loss, they will HOPEFULLY see the light.0
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it doesn't bother me, because we are in a society of people who want quick fixes.
People who don't want to spend 30 minutes cooking so they nuke some processed food.
Nobody wants to wait for anything, and that includes results.
So it doesn't bother me, I just smile on the inside and wish them well.
Offering my assistance if they miracle 2 strawberry a day diet doesn't work.0 -
It's only annoying when they're looking for advice "oh, you've lost weight, how did you do it?" and when I tell them they say "oh, well, maybe I can try something else."0
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it doesn't bother me, because we are in a society of people who want quick fixes.
People who don't want to spend 30 minutes cooking so they nuke some processed food.
Nobody wants to wait for anything, and that includes results.
So it doesn't bother me, I just smile on the inside and wish them well.
Offering my assistance if they miracle 2 strawberry a day diet doesn't work.
This is me to a "T". I am always looking for a quick fix...whether it be cooking, cleaning, running errands, etc. etc. Looking back now, I realize that the "lifestyle change" was that important to me to be patient. I was patient & results were great...and they will stick with me.
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No it does not bother me0
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Agree. But that is the way of the world. To each his own. At least we have found the right answer.0
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It does bother me. I've got a guy that I work with who is following Atkins I guess. He's on zero to few carbs. I see him shoveling (and it's gross) chicken into his mouth while we're working... and shoveling and shoveling.
I spoke to him once or twice about that not being a very healthy way to lose weight because you can't sustain 0 carbs and carbs are healthy for you and you need them for your body to be functioning at optimum level so you can keep your metabolism moving -- but NO, his answer is "I have a problem with moderation on everything... I've lost a good bit of weight already so I'll just stick to this"
Yes, he's grossly overweight and he probably has shocked his body into losing 35 pounds in not such a long period of time (I don't know how long he's been doing this)... but he tells me of "bad weekends" and one day he watched me eat watermelon and said "ah, watermelon, I miss watermelon". How long is something going to work when you cut out foods you love? Answer: Not very long at all. Too bad for them. We've found the answer and no one will listen... until they're ready.
So the heck with them all! Don't waste your time... go exercise and kick their butt!0 -
It doesn't annoy me and here's why: THEY ARE TRYING and one of those fad diets is going to click a switch and someday they will be on the sustainable road to fitness.
It happened to me. Weight Watcher's, severely restrictive calorie counting, NutriSystem. Those are the ways I've tried all my life. And they worked! Of course I did gain back weight. But this last time with NS I lost about 40 pounds in 3 months with no exercise and was jazzed. As the weight started to creep back up I got nervous. Realizing NS wasn't going to be my savior I turned to researching the web and found info on strength training which led me to MFP. I feel this is it!
So don't ever give up, even if it's fads you are going for at the moment. Things will click sooner or later. I just wish they had clicked for me at a little younger age, but hey, 50 is the new 40, right?:laugh:0 -
oh man this annoys me soo much .. i have plenty of friends who are on a different diet every week.. like silly ones like the atkins- this is not healthy or sustainable ! but i agree with others there is nothing we can do to change there minds! and the usual reason i get when i question why there doing a specific diet is because apparently its the only thing that works for there body .. hmmm i dont think so ! man this is definetly one of my pet peeves! and then all of a sudden im the one who is in the wrong for eating wholegrain bread becuase its a carb ? no im not in the wrong.. this is called a blanced lifestyle! ok rant over. good post
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You know what else is annoying? When someone constantly (and I mean ALL the time) complains about their weight to you (saying things like "I wish I was thin like YOU and not fat like ME!") but they turn around and eat 3 double cheeseburgers, large fry and large Coke from McDonald's and THEN stop at Dairy Queen for a nutter butter blizzard too.
We all make decisions based on what WE want to do with our lives. I won't criticize how you eat, but really? Stop complaining at me if all you're going to do is stuff your face with junk. It drives me insane. If you aren't willing to change? You aren't going to lose weight.0 -
"Biggest Loser" is the ultimate fad diet. Those people are forced to eat disgustingly low calories for the amount of exercise they are pushed to do, plus they are constantly dehydrated to make their losses on the scale look that much more dramatic for the camera. So of course as soon as they try and go back to a "normal" lifestyle, and eat sensibly and work out normally, they balloon back up. It's no different than any other starvation diet.No matter what deit you do or even if you just watch your calories and exercise if you stop and go back to eating all the same old crap you will gain the weight back. Being healthy is not about doing diets, it's about changing your views on food and exercise and sticking with it. Yes I did HCG and it worked great for me, yes I could gain all of the weight back if I go back to eating the way I did before!!! But so can anyone who losses weight doing it the old fashioned way. Look at some of the people from Biggest Loser they lost the weight with diet and exercise and some of them quite doing what they should have done and have gained all the wieght back!!! So lets not blame it on just the fad diets, anyone can gain the weight back that they have lost.0 -
You know what else is annoying? When someone constantly (and I mean ALL the time) complains about their weight to you (saying things like "I wish I was thin like YOU and not fat like ME!") but they turn around and eat 3 double cheeseburgers, large fry and large Coke from McDonald's and THEN stop at Dairy Queen for a nutter butter blizzard too.
We all make decisions based on what WE want to do with our lives. I won't criticize how you eat, but really? Stop complaining at me if all you're going to do is stuff your face with junk. It drives me insane. If you aren't willing to change? You aren't going to lose weight.
DQ has nutter butter blizzards?!? Now that sounds good, thanks!0 -
yes, we are a society of quick fixes - but the reality is that none of us put this weight on overnight and it won't come off overnight. This is not about a diet - it is about a new life style and re-learning how to eat right.0
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What annoys me are people like you who criticize Atkins without apparently knowing the first dam thing about it. It is both health and sustainable and I can post scientific studies which back that up. Can you?oh man this annoys me soo much .. i have plenty of friends who are on a different diet every week.. like silly ones like the atkins- this is not healthy or sustainable ! but i agree with others there is nothing we can do to change there minds! and the usual reason i get when i question why there doing a specific diet is because apparently its the only thing that works for there body .. hmmm i dont think so ! man this is definetly one of my pet peeves! and then all of a sudden im the one who is in the wrong for eating wholegrain bread becuase its a carb ? no im not in the wrong.. this is called a blanced lifestyle! ok rant over. good post0 -
You know what else is annoying? When someone constantly (and I mean ALL the time) complains about their weight to you (saying things like "I wish I was thin like YOU and not fat like ME!") but they turn around and eat 3 double cheeseburgers, large fry and large Coke from McDonald's and THEN stop at Dairy Queen for a nutter butter blizzard too.
We all make decisions based on what WE want to do with our lives. I won't criticize how you eat, but really? Stop complaining at me if all you're going to do is stuff your face with junk. It drives me insane. If you aren't willing to change? You aren't going to lose weight.
Apparently, they do. I have no idea as I am just passing along comments made to me by a friend of mine. lol
DQ has nutter butter blizzards?!? Now that sounds good, thanks!0 -
It doesn't annoy me so much that people do them, I mean so much of "dieting", as it were, is finding the thing that works for you. Where it gets annoying are the people who talk about how they're going to do this diet and their goal is to loose 20 lbs in a couple weeks or something like that. They talk about all the different diets they did, and you can tell they have no intention of continuing on once they reach their goal, that's what I find annoying. And honestly, it isn't annoying because they're talking and thinking that way, it's annoying because I want so badly to interrupt them and share my knowledge but I have to remind myself that I can't save the world. I try to just sit back and laugh knowing that their chance of success is extremely low but I can't because to me it's just more frustrating that they don't take the time to educate themselves and do things the right way.0
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My sister has been trying all sorts of diets her whole entire life pretty much and I'm very lucky I never had problem with my weight until about 2 years ago. I put on 2 stone and now I'm determined to get back to the slim me and make sure that never happens again. The first thing I chose was a lifestyle change not a fad diet.
I tried to tell my sister about my success on MFP so far and she just said "Counting calories is such a pain in the *kitten*, I can't be bothered with that"
I really try to put it across to everyone how it's not as much of a chore as people assume and how great MFP is for helping make that lifestyle change to generally help me get a better diet for life!
Nobody out of 5 people I have recommended MFP to have lasted more than 3 days before they decide it's too annoying and go back to trying something else.
At least I tried and it works for me so that's all I should care about. I can't keep trying to convince them that MFP is great, it just isn't sinking in.
What I really don't agree with is people who start exercising and then eat ****ty foods for the rest of the week, then complain they hardly lost any weight!
I can't exercise and I've lost almost 20lbs by changing my diet and I'm still not proof that the food you eat is the most important factor of losing weight. You can't exercise for one night a week and then eat a KFC and a Chinese and then complain about not losing weight fast enough. Garrrr!0 -
The problem is that people want a quick fix or to be able to eat what they want and get the perfect body. It might work in initially but many studies have shown that diets such as Atkins reduce weight just as quickly as following a low fat/kcal diet.
For me, I’d rather do things sensibly. I have a rare form of liver disease and whilst it doesn’t have to much of an impact at the moment, I know that it will in the future. I want to safeguard my future as much as I can and delay my transplant for as long as possible. It’s the perfect reason to be healthy.
I don’t look at this as a diet because I don’t believe in them, for me it’s an adjustment to a new lifestyle-I can have yummy treats-I just have to make sure I count them and make adequate allowances for it. Whilst on 1200 kcals a day I’m in the practice area for the main event (maintenance). Bring it on.
However, you can tell this to some people until you are blue in the face but if they don’t want to listen-they won’t. As long as you are healthy and informed you are leading by example.
Kudos to us for sticking at the ‘harder’ option, where you actually have to engage your brain.
Keep at it wise monkeys. 0 -
What annoys me are people like you who criticize Atkins without apparently knowing the first dam thing about it. It is both health and sustainable and I can post scientific studies which back that up. Can you?oh man this annoys me soo much .. i have plenty of friends who are on a different diet every week.. like silly ones like the atkins- this is not healthy or sustainable ! but i agree with others there is nothing we can do to change there minds! and the usual reason i get when i question why there doing a specific diet is because apparently its the only thing that works for there body .. hmmm i dont think so ! man this is definetly one of my pet peeves! and then all of a sudden im the one who is in the wrong for eating wholegrain bread becuase its a carb ? no im not in the wrong.. this is called a blanced lifestyle! ok rant over. good post
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20090401/how-the-atkins-diet-fares-in-cholesterol
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/07/earlyshow/health/main6841541.shtml
Two separate studies pointing to problems with the Atkins diet. Personally I don't care one way or the other, if that diet works for you great. The health benefits of being thinner probably outweigh any potential health risks it adds. Additionally, sustainability is a personal issue, what works for one person may not work for another. Finding a long-term diet you're comfortable with is the key to sustainability, not the diet's inherent design.
The point I AM making though is don't start throwing studies around, because for every study you show me pointing one way on a topic, I'm sure I can find one that states the opposing conclusion (like remember when eggs were really bad?).0 -
... and THEN stop at Dairy Queen for a nutter butter blizzard too.
Great! Now I REALLY want a nutter butter blizzard0 -
What annoys me are people like you who criticize Atkins without apparently knowing the first dam thing about it. It is both health and sustainable and I can post scientific studies which back that up. Can you?oh man this annoys me soo much .. i have plenty of friends who are on a different diet every week.. like silly ones like the atkins- this is not healthy or sustainable ! but i agree with others there is nothing we can do to change there minds! and the usual reason i get when i question why there doing a specific diet is because apparently its the only thing that works for there body .. hmmm i dont think so ! man this is definetly one of my pet peeves! and then all of a sudden im the one who is in the wrong for eating wholegrain bread becuase its a carb ? no im not in the wrong.. this is called a blanced lifestyle! ok rant over. good post
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20090401/how-the-atkins-diet-fares-in-cholesterol
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/07/earlyshow/health/main6841541.shtml
Two separate studies pointing to problems with the Atkins diet. Personally I don't care one way or the other, if that diet works for you great. The health benefits of being thinner probably outweigh any potential health risks it adds. Additionally, sustainability is a personal issue, what works for one person may not work for another. Finding a long-term diet you're comfortable with is the key to sustainability, not the diet's inherent design.
The point I AM making though is don't start throwing studies around, because for every study you show me pointing one way on a topic, I'm sure I can find one that states the opposing conclusion (like remember when eggs were really bad?).
All I had to do was read the topic of the study...low carb diets up cancer risks??? Is it seriously the diet, or is it the hormones and all of the junk our government pumps into what we eat? I honestly can't see how eating a diet low in saturated fat protein and lots of fiber rich veggies can give you cancer...we are no safer eating fruits and veggies from our grocery store then we are eating the meat from our grocery stores. As far as cancer is concerned, we can do everything in our power to prevent it, but no one is 100% safe from getting it. Just walking outside to go for a jog puts you at higher risks of cancer.
The Atkins diet/low carb dieting is 100% healthy and sustainable by all means. And when you are following low carb, you only keep your carbs lower until you get to a healthier weight. You incorporate more carbs in the healthier you get. There are people in lifetime maintenance on Atkins that eat 300+ carbs a day. I agree that people rant more about it then they know about it.0 -
I agree with this. I have had several people ask me what are you doing? Tell me the secret... I tell them it is NO secret. I make better choices with food and I exercise, I eat 5 times a day. Every person has said to me, OH well then I am not going to do that because of either not wanting to take the time to exercise or they don't want to change eating habits. It was hard for me at first too, but after a while I don't even think about it anymore, it is my life and I CHOSE to change.0
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Yes it bothers me! My best friend is one of these. I recently began avoiding talking too much with her because I know eating right and putting in the time to exercise is the only sure way of losing weight and KEEPING IT OFF. I figure one day she'll get it.0
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What annoys me are people like you who criticize Atkins without apparently knowing the first dam thing about it. It is both health and sustainable and I can post scientific studies which back that up. Can you?oh man this annoys me soo much .. i have plenty of friends who are on a different diet every week.. like silly ones like the atkins- this is not healthy or sustainable ! but i agree with others there is nothing we can do to change there minds! and the usual reason i get when i question why there doing a specific diet is because apparently its the only thing that works for there body .. hmmm i dont think so ! man this is definetly one of my pet peeves! and then all of a sudden im the one who is in the wrong for eating wholegrain bread becuase its a carb ? no im not in the wrong.. this is called a blanced lifestyle! ok rant over. good post
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20090401/how-the-atkins-diet-fares-in-cholesterol
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/07/earlyshow/health/main6841541.shtml
Two separate studies pointing to problems with the Atkins diet. Personally I don't care one way or the other, if that diet works for you great. The health benefits of being thinner probably outweigh any potential health risks it adds. Additionally, sustainability is a personal issue, what works for one person may not work for another. Finding a long-term diet you're comfortable with is the key to sustainability, not the diet's inherent design.
The point I AM making though is don't start throwing studies around, because for every study you show me pointing one way on a topic, I'm sure I can find one that states the opposing conclusion (like remember when eggs were really bad?).
I have read both of those studies (the actual study, not the news media digest version) and they are both idiotic. The first is a joke in that it followed 18 subjects for one month and it doesn't even appear the researcher had the subjects even do a correct Atkins diet.
The second study is similarly a joke. Read Denise Menger tearing it a new one here: http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/09/08/brand-spankin-new-study-are-low-carb-meat-eaters-in-trouble/
I'll sum up her comments in Cliff Notes: Many reporting the results of the research used the word 'causes' when at most this type of observational, non-controlled study can show correlations. They collected their data using the generally unreliable food frequency questionnaires. The 'low carb' subjects weren't even eating a low carb diet unless you count people who eat up to 60% of their calories as carbs. To associate anything that study found to 'low carb' or specifically Atkins is dumb because almost no one in it was actually doing a low carb diet.
Maybe you should actually read the studies instead of the webmd or cbsnews digested versions?0 -
Doesn't really bother me. A diet is really everything you eat. We all have choices to make and we cannot make them for others.0
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We live in a society that's all about instant gratification. That goes for exercise to food to many other issues. No one wants to wait, or work hard for something. It's either now or never..0
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