If we are going to be honest here....

mandygal13

Sorry - i don't agree. Hopefully, it doesn't happen to you, but when you find your husband repeatedly looking at "women" on the internet who are size 2 with enormous boobs rather than being with you, you find a little compassion. And yes, it was his problem, not mine, but it did affirm the feeling of insecurity.

But that's not "men." That's one person with a messed up view of love.

I'm incredibly lucky that I've been surrounded by real men my entire life, so I know what a good man looks like. I also know they are not extinct, and they do not deserve to be generalized with all the negativity that results from a woman having a bad relationship with a bad guy.

Most men will show you (even TELL you) exactly who and what they are if you bother to pay attention. The problem is that women today are so emotionally messed up that even when they meet someone who is completely wrong for them, they play the "But I'll fix him, and it'll be romantic and awesome!" game. And by the time they figure out that fixing someone is not their responsibility (and not possible anyway), it's too late. Life is about choices, and when you make the wrong one, it's not always about someone else.

Talk about generalizing negativity...you just 'negatively generalized' women. You talk as if any bad relationship is the woman's fault. That's not always the case, my dear. And my ex "TOLD" me and "SHOWED" me one thing while we were dating, but then "TOLD" me and "SHOWED" me a whole other thing after we were married. And you want to make that MY fault? Seriously?!?!

So...what conclusions can we draw from these two examples? Well..honestly...not a lot, other than there are all kinds of women out ther...which means...wait?!...likely, there are all kinds of men too!! But, the fact is that it's NOT society that is making you believe that you have to be a certain thing. It's yourselves. I have a friend, she's tall, and has a bigger frame than many women...and yet she still manages to be very, very attractive. Bigger framed taller women are not my type, at ALL (I'm a short guy)...yet she pulls it off with grace and confidence I've only rarely seen in women that fit what this thread assumes is societies 'ideal'. My girlfriend is the opposite, in size and frame etc. She's petite...yet isn't skinny (she works out almost daily and is strong and healthy...much more attractive imo). She has that same confidence. But here is the thing...it has NOTHING to do with their bodies you see? They are attractive on the inside, know it...and it shines through like a beacon. EVERYONE sees it.

Beautifully stated. Thank you. I apologize for my previous "outburst".

Just_J_Now

Dude!!! You must be really bored resurrecting all these zombie threads.

synchkat

I remember someone who used to resurrect zombie thread...I miss his dorkiness

beagletracks

synchkat wrote: »

I remember someone who used to resurrect zombie thread...I miss his dorkiness

I've been remembering him, too. He seemed sincere - not just trolling.