What is the best cardio to burn calories? (From your persona

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  • Athena413
    Athena413 Posts: 1,709 Member
    However, running is not really a calorie scorching activity unless you're doing it in intervals.


    :huh:

    This really points out how far the HIIT cultists have moved the goal posts of reality. Now, I'll admit that the recent trend of "running" at speeds of 4.0 mph changes the equation somewhat. However, their are few exercise modalities that provide the calorie "bang for the buck" that running does.

    The fact is that running burns more calories at any given perceived level of exertion than almost any other form of exercise. (A recent study suggested that the ARC Trainer scored high as well, but I haven't seen the raw data so I don't know how significant that is).

    I meant more for me personally - I don't burn as many calories running as I do during other activities - mainly because I can't run all that fast. If I do intervals I tend to burn a lot more, though.

    And I don't quite understand why you put it as "running" when referring to 4.0mph...for me, that is a decent jog...it's hard to get 240 lbs moving very fast. I may be slow, but I'm still lapping the people who are sitting at home on the couch, and I still consider myself a runner. It's statements like you just made that discourage people like me from "running" and I personally don't appreciate comments like that.
  • ambermichon
    ambermichon Posts: 404 Member
    spinning, jumping rope, running and interval training (HIIT)
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    However, running is not really a calorie scorching activity unless you're doing it in intervals.


    :huh:

    This really points out how far the HIIT cultists have moved the goal posts of reality. Now, I'll admit that the recent trend of "running" at speeds of 4.0 mph changes the equation somewhat. However, their are few exercise modalities that provide the calorie "bang for the buck" that running does.

    The fact is that running burns more calories at any given perceived level of exertion than almost any other form of exercise. (A recent study suggested that the ARC Trainer scored high as well, but I haven't seen the raw data so I don't know how significant that is).

    I meant more for me personally - I don't burn as many calories running as I do during other activities - mainly because I can't run all that fast. If I do intervals I tend to burn a lot more, though.

    And I don't quite understand why you put it as "running" when referring to 4.0mph...for me, that is a decent jog...it's hard to get 240 lbs moving very fast. I may be slow, but I'm still lapping the people who are sitting at home on the couch, and I still consider myself a runner. It's statements like you just made that discourage people like me from "running" and I personally don't appreciate comments like that.

    The physiologic definition of running has always been 5.0 mph--that's not a value judgement, it's just that below those speeds, the common equations for estimating oxygen uptake, calorie consumption, etc, do not apply because there is too much variability between individuals.

    For better or for worse, my natural tendency is to be precise as possible when I write things like this, and so the use of quotation marks for "running" was to identify that as an outlier that might not fit my more general statement about running and burning calories, nothing more.

    Since at no time in any of your comments you indicated that you run at 4.0 mph, I think it is somewhat inappropriate for you to instantly interpret my chance statement as being a perjorative one.

    However, I understand that these misinterpretations often occur in nonverbal forums, so I apologize for giving offense and I assure you that nothing negative was intended by my use of punctuation.
  • brittbergh
    brittbergh Posts: 130 Member
    i like hiit training particulary turbo fire hiits per my bodybugg i burned around 300 cal for 20 minutes of activity, not to mention it leaves your heart rate elevated after the work out (more calories burned at a resting state)

    yes this!!!!! LOVE HIIT workouts...LOVE turbo fire. saturday I did a 20minute hiit...525 calories burned
  • cedarhurst2006
    cedarhurst2006 Posts: 378 Member
    I like the arc trainer at the gym - I mix the interval intensity and that really seems to burn the most calories for me. Second would be the elliptical - I try a different program each day and up the intensity.
  • Athena413
    Athena413 Posts: 1,709 Member
    However, running is not really a calorie scorching activity unless you're doing it in intervals.


    :huh:

    This really points out how far the HIIT cultists have moved the goal posts of reality. Now, I'll admit that the recent trend of "running" at speeds of 4.0 mph changes the equation somewhat. However, their are few exercise modalities that provide the calorie "bang for the buck" that running does.

    The fact is that running burns more calories at any given perceived level of exertion than almost any other form of exercise. (A recent study suggested that the ARC Trainer scored high as well, but I haven't seen the raw data so I don't know how significant that is).

    I meant more for me personally - I don't burn as many calories running as I do during other activities - mainly because I can't run all that fast. If I do intervals I tend to burn a lot more, though.

    And I don't quite understand why you put it as "running" when referring to 4.0mph...for me, that is a decent jog...it's hard to get 240 lbs moving very fast. I may be slow, but I'm still lapping the people who are sitting at home on the couch, and I still consider myself a runner. It's statements like you just made that discourage people like me from "running" and I personally don't appreciate comments like that.

    The physiologic definition of running has always been 5.0 mph--that's not a value judgement, it's just that below those speeds, the common equations for estimating oxygen uptake, calorie consumption, etc, do not apply because there is too much variability between individuals.

    For better or for worse, my natural tendency is to be precise as possible when I write things like this, and so the use of quotation marks for "running" was to identify that as an outlier that might not fit my more general statement about running and burning calories, nothing more.

    Since at no time in any of your comments you indicated that you run at 4.0 mph, I think it is somewhat inappropriate for you to instantly interpret my chance statement as being a perjorative one.

    However, I understand that these misinterpretations often occur in nonverbal forums, so I apologize for giving offense and I assure you that nothing negative was intended by my use of punctuation.

    Totally agree that misinterpretation is all too common in forums - and I understand better now what you are saying. Thank you for clarifying. :smile:
  • 27strange
    27strange Posts: 837 Member
    Running, cycling, elliptical trainer. Great calorie burns with all of these! Running is awesome!
  • Katie3784
    Katie3784 Posts: 543
    For me it is my recumbent bike. I can read and work out which makes it a workout that I will be able to keep up for the rest of my life. (YES, The REST OF MY LIFE! If I want to keep the weight off, I don't want to kid myself!).

    So try out all of them, but try to make a hobby out of at least one or two things so you can maintain them and keep doing them. Be honest with yourself :-)

    Cheers, Christy
    While I do agree that it is good to do exercise that you enjoy and can maintain, I am a big opponent of doing cardio that allows you to concentrate on anything but the actual exercise. I feel that if you can read, talk, or pay attention to something on t.v., you are not working hard enough. I personally like doing intervals on my elliptical. It only takes 20 minutes to burn about 250 calories, and it is hard. I am definitely sweating and feeling very accomplished by the end, but I guess any exercise is better than nothing.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    If you can't talk while doing cardio, you're working too hard, and overtraining. Overtraining doesn't give you the fat burning benefits. REmember, calories burned does NOT equal fat burned. You actually burn more fat at lower intensities.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    If you can't talk while doing cardio, you're working too hard, and overtraining. Overtraining doesn't give you the fat burning benefits. REmember, calories burned does NOT equal fat burned. You actually burn more fat at lower intensities.

    This thread has turned into a Libran's delight--I get to argue two opposite positions simultaneously.

    Earlier I took a sarcastic tone when arguing against the elevation of high intensity interval training as the "best" way to burn fat, esp when it is implied that it is the "only" effective way to burn fat.

    Now I have to weigh in against the opposite extreme--the idea that lower-intensity cardio is the "best" and higher intensity training should be avoided.

    An excellent review was published in 2009 in the journal Exercise and Sport Science Review. The title is "Exercise improves fat metabolism in muscle but does not increase 24-h fat oxidation". The authors--using literature review and results from their own research--provided convincing evidence that "moderate exercise (<1 hr) has little impact on 24 hr fat oxidation".

    They compared 'fat burning" workouts to higher-intensity workouts in both trained and untrained subjects using whole-room indirect calorimetry. What they found was that, regardless of the amount or rate of fat oxidized during the actual exercise workout, when 24 hour fat oxidation was measured, there was no difference in either the percentage of fat burned or the total actual amount of fat oxidized. When subjects burned more "fat" during exercise, they burned less the rest of the day and vice versa.

    In addition, there has been a wealth of research over the past 4 years or so, comparing high intensity workout routines with steady-state moderate cardio routines and, under shorter-term, controlled laboratory conditions, HIIT workouts consistently result in greater fat loss than steady-state cardio.

    The statement that "you actually burn more fat at lower intensities" just doesn't hold up under the weight of the research evidence.

    Having said that, I think it is still way too early to go to the position some have adopted: that HIIT is the "best" and even "only" preferred method for everyone. My reasons are beyond the scope of this comment, so I will just leave it at that.

    In my opinion and experience, the "best" long-term approach is a balanced one--a program that includes endurance cardio, empo cardio and HIIT, as well as resistance training. There are different approaches that are appropriate for different individuals at different stages of their journey as well.
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    world domination...its really really hard work
  • silkysly
    silkysly Posts: 701 Member
    Te insanity workout is killer. I like running though...
  • toots99
    toots99 Posts: 3,794 Member
    Stair master. I sweat buckets and burn more calories on that than anything else.
  • ATT949
    ATT949 Posts: 1,245 Member
    When I was obese, I used the elliptical. It's low impact but still gives you the opportunity to exercise hard. As soon as I could run "without stuff jiggling", I started running and I love it. Take care of your knees and legs and it's something you can do for decades.

    I ran a half marathon on Sunday, along with 8000 of my closest friends. We had to take buses to the starting line and the guy in the seat next to me was 70 years old. This was the 30th time he's run the San Diego half. 70 years old and still going strong!
  • Murphk323
    Murphk323 Posts: 184
    spin class is my favorite but i love doing sprint intervals or jogging on the treadmill when its set to the highest incline.
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