Always over Fat & Protein

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  • Pangui
    Pangui Posts: 373 Member
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    Exactly...Being over in fat is bad and protein is great to be over in

    Why is being over on fat bad? Fat does not make you fat!! Jeez... are we still in the 90's? Transfats are the only thing you really need to avoid as far as fat is concerned, even saturated fats aren't this evil monster they're made out to be.

    Try adjusting your macro's a little. Lower your carbs to like 40%, protein bump up to 30% and fat can be at 30% too.

    Fat is all calories with very few nutrients. Even a tiny amount of so-called "healthy fat" like olive oil damages the endothelial tissues in your blood vessels. These cells are vital to good heart health. Fat in limited amounts as found in nuts, avocados and seeds is beneficial as some fat is needed in the diet. But to take an olive, squeeze it, remove the fiber and the nutrients, and keep nothing but the oil is NOT healthy.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
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    Exactly...Being over in fat is bad and protein is great to be over in

    Why is being over on fat bad? Fat does not make you fat!! Jeez... are we still in the 90's? Transfats are the only thing you really need to avoid as far as fat is concerned, even saturated fats aren't this evil monster they're made out to be.

    Try adjusting your macro's a little. Lower your carbs to like 40%, protein bump up to 30% and fat can be at 30% too.

    Fat is all calories with very few nutrients. Even a tiny amount of so-called "healthy fat" like olive oil damages the endothelial tissues in your blood vessels. These cells are vital to good heart health. Fat in limited amounts as found in nuts, avocados and seeds is beneficial as some fat is needed in the diet. But to take an olive, squeeze it, remove the fiber and the nutrients, and keep nothing but the oil is NOT healthy.

    Seriously, go educate yourself on this stuff before you post this crap.
  • Pangui
    Pangui Posts: 373 Member
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    Exactly...Being over in fat is bad and protein is great to be over in

    Why is being over on fat bad? Fat does not make you fat!! Jeez... are we still in the 90's? Transfats are the only thing you really need to avoid as far as fat is concerned, even saturated fats aren't this evil monster they're made out to be.

    Try adjusting your macro's a little. Lower your carbs to like 40%, protein bump up to 30% and fat can be at 30% too.

    Fat is all calories with very few nutrients. Even a tiny amount of so-called "healthy fat" like olive oil damages the endothelial tissues in your blood vessels. These cells are vital to good heart health. Fat in limited amounts as found in nuts, avocados and seeds is beneficial as some fat is needed in the diet. But to take an olive, squeeze it, remove the fiber and the nutrients, and keep nothing but the oil is NOT healthy.

    Seriously, go educate yourself on this stuff before you post this crap.

    Wow! That was rude! I'll be careful not to judge your comments as crap. I have been doing research. This is what I have learned.

    Here's Why You May Want to Think Twice About Olive Oil

    From Dr. Dean Ornish: It's 100% fat and 14% of it is saturated. At 120 calories a tablespoon it's very easy to eat too much of "a bad thing". It won't raise your LDL as much as butter or other saturated fats will, so it might look like it's reducing your cholesterol, but it's still raising it. It's just not raising it as much other fats would! It's the omega-3's that reduce inflammation and are "heart healthy", and olive oil has very little omega-3, maybe 1%. It's mostly omega-9, which has been shown to impair blood vessel function. Canola and flax seed oil are much higher in omega-3's--and are much healthier oils to use. Just go easy on them!.
    From Dr. Robert Vogel of the University of Maryland: This is the study that convinced me! Back in 2000 Vogel based his study on the Lyon Heart Study, which is the big-time study that got us all to eat the Mediterranean Diet. He wanted to see how olive oil, salmon (fish oil) and canola oil actually affect the blood vessels. Using the brachial artery tourniquet test he had 10 healthy volunteers with normal cholesterol ingest 50 grams of fat, in the form of olive oil & bread, canola oil & bread, and salmon. Measuring their arterial blood flow before & after each meal Vogel could tell whether or not a meal was causing damage to the endothelial lining of the brachial artery, based on how the blood was flowing through the artery after the meal was eaten. The results really surprised him. The olive oil constricted blood flow by a whopping 31% after the meal; the canola oil constricted it by 10%; and the salmon reduced it by only 2%. Why should we care? Because when the arteries constrict, the endothelium (the vessel's lining) is injured, triggering plaque build-up, or atherosclerosis. Vogel RA. Corretti MC. Plotnick GD. The postprandial effect of components of the Mediterranean diet on endothelial function. Journal of the American College of Cardiology. 36(5):1455-60, 2000 Nov 1. Similar results have been found it later studies. This isn't just a one-hit wonder. Interestingly, walnuts, which have Omega-3's have also been shown to improve blood flow by 24% using the brachial artery tourniquet test. Go omega 3's!
    How does olive oil constrict blood vessels?: Dr. Vogel discovered back in 1999 that a high fat meal blocks the endothelium's ability to produce that all important NITRIC OXIDE, which is a vasodilator and critical to preserving the tone & health of our blood vessels. When olive oil constricts the blood vessels it's because it's blocking the production of nitric oxide. Not a good thing!
    From Dr. Lawrence Rudel of Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center: Rudel ran a five year study feeding olive oil and saturated fat to African Green monkeys. The monkeys metabolize fat in the same way as humans, so they're good stand-ins.. At the end of five years, their autopsies showed that the monkeys who were fed olive oil had higher HDLs (the good cholesterol) and lower LDLs (the bad cholesterol) than the ones fed the saturated fat diet. The big surprise here: Both groups had exactly the same amount of coronary artery disease. The higher HDLs & lower LDLs of the olive oil group were meaningless. Rudel later repeated the study on rodents, and got the same results.
    From Dr. Caldwell Esseltsyn: Dr. E tells a story in his book about Rev. William Valentine of North Carolina who had a quintuple bypass in 1990. Since his surgery he followed a strict plant-based diet, dropping from 210 pounds to 156 pounds. For 14 years he maintained his weight & his diet. But by 2004 he started to experience a recurrence of angina, especially when he exercised. He promptly contacted Dr. Esselstyn after reading about his success in reversing heart disease in a health newsletter. Valentine wanted no part of a repeat bypass or other intervention. He assured Dr. E that he only ate whole grains, legumes, vegetable & fruit. A baffled Dr. E prompted him to repeat once again everything he was eating, leaving nothing out.

    "He had forgotten to mention that he was consuming "heart healthy" olive oil at every lunch and dinner and in salads. It was what they call a Eureka moment. Immediately, I advised him to give up the olive oil. He did--and within seven weeks, his angina had completely disappeared." Dr. Esselstyn
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
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    Then how is it that people on low-carb & high fat diets typically have lower cholesterol, lower triglyeride levels, and blood sugar is in better control?
  • Pangui
    Pangui Posts: 373 Member
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    Then how is it that people on low-carb & high fat diets typically have lower cholesterol, lower triglyeride levels, and blood sugar is in better control?

    Well, it seems pretty obvious to me as most people who are on any type of calorie-restriction (be it low carb or low fat or just calorie counting) diet will tend to lower these levels, especially when moderate exercise is factored in. My levels have all dropped too and my carbs are sometimes 80-90% of my total caloric intake.

    The concern is more on the long-term effects rather than short-term.