Any vets out there?

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  • Britt2Fitjrny
    Britt2Fitjrny Posts: 558 Member
    Yes! I have a beagle/Boston terrier mix (my profile picture) and he has the same issue. I found that Epson (not sure if that is spelt right) salt works really well! It's a laxative but can also be used for irritation of the skin. Take a bowl full of warm/hot water and poor some Epson salt in it. Mix it up and then soak his paws. That's what i have done. every time you see him licking it do it again. It eventually gets better. Dogs with allergies is so much work!! My has the biggest problem ever!!! But give that a try before doing the allergy testing. I have yet to do the test. Don't want to fork over that much of my money! :)

    GOOD LUCK!
  • foremant86
    foremant86 Posts: 1,115 Member
    Yup definitely a sign of allergies.

    Food is the usually the culprit and finding out exactly what he is allergic to can take months without an allergy test but your best bet is to feed a food that doesn't have multiple meat sources and is a good food. Anything that you can buy at the local grocery store is garbage, most good foods are sold at feed stores or even tractor supply type stores or pet boutiques if your town has one. Make sure the food has very few fillers and the first ingredient is lamb meal or chicken meal or beef meal or whatever meat source you decide to go with.

    I'd probably try Lamb and see how that goes, most dogs with allergies do well on lamb.

    It can take up to 6 or 8 weeks for a dog to adjust to a new food and for the allergies to subside.

    Diamond is a decent food especially for the price, i fed it to my dogs for years.

    Some other good brands you might consider but are definitely pricier are Merrick, Taste of the wild, Cannidae, Wellness, Innova.
  • Britt2Fitjrny
    Britt2Fitjrny Posts: 558 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!
  • Jessamin
    Jessamin Posts: 338 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Ah, Hills is hard. It's so expensive but we tend to see great results.

    Eating wood is odd - is he getting enough of it?
  • Jessamin
    Jessamin Posts: 338 Member
    Oh, and our dog has a similar thing, but it's only been his feet. He tends to have skin problems, Flea Allergy Dermatitis being the big'un that we have to be careful to keep under wraps. But his feet itching only happened once we moved house and we decided that it must be something he is walking on now, since his food has been the same all his life. He gets bathed regularly, occassional shots and some sexy hot pink spray to keep his feet clean and dry and he has been good ever since.
  • foremant86
    foremant86 Posts: 1,115 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Hills is garbage, ever read the ingredients? It's an overpriced bag of corn and fillers.

    Vets only push Hills because..

    A) they only get about 4 hours of "nutrition" training in school and guess who it's sponsored by? that's right, hills!
    B) they get knock backs, they order such and such amount and they get such and such amount for free to feed their own animals.
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Hills is garbage, ever read the ingredients? It's an overpriced bag of corn and fillers.

    Vets only push Hills because..

    A) they only get about 4 hours of "nutrition" training in school and guess who it's sponsored by? that's right, hills!
    B) they get knock backs, they order such and such amount and they get such and such amount for free to feed their own animals.


    regarding b we do????????? wow, i am calling our rep to tell them they be cheating us, No vets do not get kick backs or knock back. the do have a staff feeding program with discounts but we do not get anything free for ordering any amount , your information is false.

    I have worked at many vets in 25 years never a kick back. the reason most vets use hill is they do a lot of research and share that research. same thing with Iams, purina , and royal canine.

    btw purina HA is better then hill allergy diets in my opinion , i also will take the royal canine line of hill, mostly because the dogs tend to eat it better.
  • wolf23
    wolf23 Posts: 4,267 Member
    My dog had seasonal allergies and would lick raw spots on both her paws and gnaw at her groin area. What worked for her was a food supplement called "Missing Link". You can buy it at Petsmart, Petco or order online. It is expensive, but it stopped her licking so it was worth it. It is a powder you mix in their food. She didn't mind the taste. Hope you dog gets relief soon.
  • foremant86
    foremant86 Posts: 1,115 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Hills is garbage, ever read the ingredients? It's an overpriced bag of corn and fillers.

    Vets only push Hills because..

    A) they only get about 4 hours of "nutrition" training in school and guess who it's sponsored by? that's right, hills!
    B) they get knock backs, they order such and such amount and they get such and such amount for free to feed their own animals.


    regarding b we do????????? wow, i am calling our rep to tell them they be cheating us, No vets do not get kick backs or knock back. the do have a staff feeding program with discounts but we do not get anything free for ordering any amount , your information is false.

    I have worked at many vets in 25 years never a kick back. the reason most vets use hill is they do a lot of research and share that research. same thing with Iams, purina , and royal canine.

    btw purina HA is better then hill allergy diets in my opinion , i also will take the royal canine line of hill, mostly because the dogs tend to eat it better.

    the vet i worked for got kick backs.

    Hills, iams, purina...all garbage
  • Jessamin
    Jessamin Posts: 338 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Hills is garbage, ever read the ingredients? It's an overpriced bag of corn and fillers.

    Vets only push Hills because..

    A) they only get about 4 hours of "nutrition" training in school and guess who it's sponsored by? that's right, hills!
    B) they get knock backs, they order such and such amount and they get such and such amount for free to feed their own animals.


    regarding b we do????????? wow, i am calling our rep to tell them they be cheating us, No vets do not get kick backs or knock back. the do have a staff feeding program with discounts but we do not get anything free for ordering any amount , your information is false.

    I have worked at many vets in 25 years never a kick back. the reason most vets use hill is they do a lot of research and share that research. same thing with Iams, purina , and royal canine.

    btw purina HA is better then hill allergy diets in my opinion , i also will take the royal canine line of hill, mostly because the dogs tend to eat it better.

    the vet i worked for got kick backs.

    Hills, iams, purina...all garbage

    Agreed with FairyMiss. The vets I work for aren't dumbasses and they don't get free **** from Hills but they'll still recommend it along with other brands because they see great results and other vets see results.
  • foremant86
    foremant86 Posts: 1,115 Member
    Inredients from just one of the Hills dog foods


    Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Brown Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Sorghum, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Cracked Pearled Barley, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Lactic Acid, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, L-Lysine, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), L-Tryptophan, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, L-Threonine, Phosphoric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.


    If you want to feed your dog a food full of corn and wheat and rice then more power to ya, I personally won't and will not be pushed to do so by a vet when I myself have been reading and studying up on animal nutrition since I was 14 years old.

    Give me a vet who has some actual training and insight into nutrition and then i'll take their advice.
  • I've had Rotties and was told that boredom will cause them to start the paw licking habit . Rotties are bred to be working dogs and need a lot of exercise.
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Hills is garbage, ever read the ingredients? It's an overpriced bag of corn and fillers.

    Vets only push Hills because..

    A) they only get about 4 hours of "nutrition" training in school and guess who it's sponsored by? that's right, hills!
    B) they get knock backs, they order such and such amount and they get such and such amount for free to feed their own animals.


    regarding b we do????????? wow, i am calling our rep to tell them they be cheating us, No vets do not get kick backs or knock back. the do have a staff feeding program with discounts but we do not get anything free for ordering any amount , your information is false.

    I have worked at many vets in 25 years never a kick back. the reason most vets use hill is they do a lot of research and share that research. same thing with Iams, purina , and royal canine.

    btw purina HA is better then hill allergy diets in my opinion , i also will take the royal canine line of hill, mostly because the dogs tend to eat it better.

    the vet i worked for got kick backs.

    Hills, iams, purina...all garbage


    Agreed with FairyMiss. The vets I work for aren't dumbasses and they don't get free **** from Hills but they'll still recommend it along with other brands because they see great results and other vets see results.


    eh dont bother everyone knows vets are money grubbing evil villian only out to get rich of poor innocent animals

    http://www.parkwayanimaljax.com/keep-up-with-lt-dan-the-kitty-who-can/
  • foremant86
    foremant86 Posts: 1,115 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Hills is garbage, ever read the ingredients? It's an overpriced bag of corn and fillers.

    Vets only push Hills because..

    A) they only get about 4 hours of "nutrition" training in school and guess who it's sponsored by? that's right, hills!
    B) they get knock backs, they order such and such amount and they get such and such amount for free to feed their own animals.


    regarding b we do????????? wow, i am calling our rep to tell them they be cheating us, No vets do not get kick backs or knock back. the do have a staff feeding program with discounts but we do not get anything free for ordering any amount , your information is false.

    I have worked at many vets in 25 years never a kick back. the reason most vets use hill is they do a lot of research and share that research. same thing with Iams, purina , and royal canine.

    btw purina HA is better then hill allergy diets in my opinion , i also will take the royal canine line of hill, mostly because the dogs tend to eat it better.

    the vet i worked for got kick backs.

    Hills, iams, purina...all garbage


    Agreed with FairyMiss. The vets I work for aren't dumbasses and they don't get free **** from Hills but they'll still recommend it along with other brands because they see great results and other vets see results.


    eh dont bother everyone knows vets are money grubbing evil villian only out to get rich of poor innocent animals

    http://www.parkwayanimaljax.com/keep-up-with-lt-dan-the-kitty-who-can/

    yes that's clearly what I was implying when simply pointing out that taking nutrition advice from someone who has no education in nutrition isn't a good idea...I was clearly saying they just want your money!!!!

    good god get over yourself
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    Inredients from just one of the Hills dog foods


    Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Brown Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Sorghum, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Cracked Pearled Barley, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Lactic Acid, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, L-Lysine, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), L-Tryptophan, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, L-Threonine, Phosphoric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.


    If you want to feed your dog a food full of corn and wheat and rice then more power to ya, I personally won't and will not be pushed to do so by a vet when I myself have been reading and studying up on animal nutrition since I was 14 years old.

    Give me a vet who has some actual training and insight into nutrition and then i'll take their advice.

    first off corn is NOT the villian the allmight internet makes it out to be it is an excellent source of carbohydrates. it is only bad for the FEW who are allergic to it. it is not just a FILLER.

    and i am not say those are the only good foods out there but they are the companies doing the RESEARCH on animal nutrition . You say you have studied animal nutriton since you were 14 which by the way i was already working in the trenches of animal heath and nutrition. Who do you think has been doing the research you claim to study???? Who's scientist???? where do you think the money for the research in pet nutrition has come from for about the last 50 year??????

    .


    Hills and Purina
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    The damn vet talked me into Hill Diet! 60 dollars a bag! I losing my mind having to pay that much monthly. it's helped his itching though but it’s almost impossible for him not to eat anything else. He's even resorted to eating wood! Poor thing!

    Hills is garbage, ever read the ingredients? It's an overpriced bag of corn and fillers.

    Vets only push Hills because..

    A) they only get about 4 hours of "nutrition" training in school and guess who it's sponsored by? that's right, hills!
    B) they get knock backs, they order such and such amount and they get such and such amount for free to feed their own animals.


    regarding b we do????????? wow, i am calling our rep to tell them they be cheating us, No vets do not get kick backs or knock back. the do have a staff feeding program with discounts but we do not get anything free for ordering any amount , your information is false.

    I have worked at many vets in 25 years never a kick back. the reason most vets use hill is they do a lot of research and share that research. same thing with Iams, purina , and royal canine.

    btw purina HA is better then hill allergy diets in my opinion , i also will take the royal canine line of hill, mostly because the dogs tend to eat it better.

    the vet i worked for got kick backs.

    Hills, iams, purina...all garbage


    Agreed with FairyMiss. The vets I work for aren't dumbasses and they don't get free **** from Hills but they'll still recommend it along with other brands because they see great results and other vets see results.


    eh dont bother everyone knows vets are money grubbing evil villian only out to get rich of poor innocent animals

    http://www.parkwayanimaljax.com/keep-up-with-lt-dan-the-kitty-who-can/

    yes that's clearly what I was implying when simply pointing out that taking nutrition advice from someone who has no education in nutrition isn't a good idea...I was clearly saying they just want your money!!!!

    good god get over yourself


    no not gonna go the low road, i will simply say i can not vouch for all vets, but the one i work for keeps up with the latest. including nutrion. though some of these fly by night internet brands are hard to recomend when we can not get any true data on there food. aside from blue buffallo killing animals. but i belive they fixed that problem
  • foremant86
    foremant86 Posts: 1,115 Member
    Inredients from just one of the Hills dog foods


    Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Brown Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Sorghum, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Cracked Pearled Barley, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Lactic Acid, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, L-Lysine, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), L-Tryptophan, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, L-Threonine, Phosphoric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.


    If you want to feed your dog a food full of corn and wheat and rice then more power to ya, I personally won't and will not be pushed to do so by a vet when I myself have been reading and studying up on animal nutrition since I was 14 years old.

    Give me a vet who has some actual training and insight into nutrition and then i'll take their advice.

    first off corn is NOT the villian the allmight internet makes it out to be it is an excellent source of carbohydrates. it is only bad for the FEW who are allergic to it. it is not just a FILLER.

    and i am not say those are the only good foods out there but they are the companies doing the RESEARCH on animal nutrition . You say you have studied animal nutriton since you were 14 which by the way i was already working in the trenches of animal heath and nutrition. Who do you think has been doing the research you claim to study???? Who's scientist???? where do you think the money for the research in pet nutrition has come from for about the last 50 year??????

    .


    Hills and Purina

    You'd think they'd take that research and put it into their own product instead of just pumping out garbage to make a buck.

    It's funny how most people care so much about their own nutrition and try to eat as healthy as they can but they'll give fido whatever.

    Like i said, feed what you want, more power to ya. I personally choose to feed a higher quality food and will always give others the info to do so as well. I've got 4 dogs and all healthy as can be, none of them have health problems.
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    Inredients from just one of the Hills dog foods


    Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Brown Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Sorghum, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Cracked Pearled Barley, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Lactic Acid, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, L-Lysine, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), L-Tryptophan, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, L-Threonine, Phosphoric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.


    If you want to feed your dog a food full of corn and wheat and rice then more power to ya, I personally won't and will not be pushed to do so by a vet when I myself have been reading and studying up on animal nutrition since I was 14 years old.

    Give me a vet who has some actual training and insight into nutrition and then i'll take their advice.

    first off corn is NOT the villian the allmight internet makes it out to be it is an excellent source of carbohydrates. it is only bad for the FEW who are allergic to it. it is not just a FILLER.

    and i am not say those are the only good foods out there but they are the companies doing the RESEARCH on animal nutrition . You say you have studied animal nutriton since you were 14 which by the way i was already working in the trenches of animal heath and nutrition. Who do you think has been doing the research you claim to study???? Who's scientist???? where do you think the money for the research in pet nutrition has come from for about the last 50 year??????

    .


    Hills and Purina

    You'd think they'd take that research and put it into their own product instead of just pumping out garbage to make a buck.

    It's funny how most people care so much about their own nutrition and try to eat as healthy as they can but they'll give fido whatever.

    Like i said, feed what you want, more power to ya. I personally choose to feed a higher quality food and will always give others the info to do so as well. I've got 4 dogs and all healthy as can be, none of them have health problems.

    I actually only feed my cats science diet , their hairball is all that keeps him from puking daily. my dogs actaully eat natures recipie. (one is picky) they are all very healthy. well the only one that is not has nothing to do with diet. she is just 'special'

    fortunalty no one needs a perscrption food.
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    Now back to the op. it does sound like allergies. there are better antihistimines then benedryl and your vet should be able to prescribe others. ( hydroxyzine is a fantastic one)

    as far as food allergies the only way to know for sure is a TRUE ELLIMINATION or TRUE HYPO ALLERGENIC DIET.

    you will only find these in presciption diets. Purina Ha is fantastic because of the type of protiens not the source. it is a true hypoallergenic diet. unfortunatly it is exspensive.

    and one of the hardest parts with going these routes for people is you can feed them NOTHING else, not even a smidge of this or a drop of that. or you will be wasting time and money.

    a less expensive method is to try to find a food with the least different food ingredients. this is not as perfect because you will rarely find a food that has only a single source. even foods that will advertise them selves as one protien source and one carb source read the lables most have more than the one mention on the front.
  • _Khaleesi_
    _Khaleesi_ Posts: 877 Member
    http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showcat.php?cat=all&stype=1&si=Ray

    Thats the review for Rachael Ray's dog food. I would look into feeding AT LEAST a 4 star food.
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showcat.php?cat=all&stype=1&si=Ray

    Thats the review for Rachael Ray's dog food. I would look into feeding AT LEAST a 4 star food.

    will have to look in to that site later, dont have time to really look it over and its credentials.
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