How many Calories to consume ...so confused!?

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Hi, I am new to this site, but have been working towards being healthier by eating better, counting calories and working out since Feb or this year. I was doing great but seem to have platued for about 6 weeks I keep bouncing back between 225 and 228. I am 5' 3". I started at 273 eating 1600 calories and hardly no exercise at all. Slowly I have improved in the workout department and usally do about 1 to 1.5 hours or something a day. Most days I do circuit training like Jillian Michaels burn fat boost matabolism, no more trouble zones, 30 day shred. I also use some videos on exercise tv, I walk sometimes and use games for the wii like EA active1 and more workouts on the high setting.

When I log my exercise on Caloriecount is says I burn about 1000 calories...and I do that about 5 times a week. I also have a 18 month old son who is still breastfeeding. I wasnt worried too much before when calorie count told me 1600 becuase it was working, but now I am finding the weight loss has stopped and I have tried upping the length and intensity of workouts. My question is should I up my calories, or lower them. And what should I change them to. I refuse to give up this time, and this 6 week platue sucks! Although on a bright not I can tell I am still getting stronger and building uo stamina!

Thanka in advance!

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  • auburngirl06
    auburngirl06 Posts: 153 Member
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    You need WAY MORE than 1600 calories - especially as a breastfeeding mother. I hope someone else with knowledge in breastfeeding can give you a better target. Have you tried googling 'how many calories extra does breastfeeding need'??? I'm going to venture to say you need another 300-500.


    ETA:

    Okay, I did your BMR calculation, 25yrs, 5'3, 225. Your BMR is 1735-sedentary burn is going to be 1735*1.2= 2,082. This does not even take into account the additional calories you burn from breastfeeding. I'm not sure how accurate your burn of 1000 is for exercise, but assuming it's right then you are burning over 3000 calories a day. I suggest doing some research on breastfeeding calories. Add that to your daily output and then subtract what kind of deficit you want to lose. I'd say maybe 1000 calorie deficit to lose about 1 lb a week.
    I know this is all really confusing. I'll be happy to answer questions if you have any :)
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,220 Member
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    For breast feeding you need at least 300 more calories a day. Plus if you are burning 1000 calories a day 5 days a week but only eating 1600 calories then you leave 600 calories for your basic body functions (pumping blood, digestion, etc) plus the breast feeding. Find out what your BMR is and make sure not to eat below that.
  • froggzy1015
    froggzy1015 Posts: 178 Member
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    You normally burn about 500 extra calories nursing full time. You should take what MFP gives you and then go over that amount for nursing. Eating back exercise calories is good too. You want your milk healthy and strong! Hope that helps!
  • kapeluza
    kapeluza Posts: 3,434 Member
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    "Hello Folks,

    So often people personal message me asking me if I think their calories are correct. It seems that people think there is some magical formula that only a very few can figure out. I see so many people on here just popping in numbers and following them heedless of what the numbers mean. I feel it's ULTRA important to know why MFP (and me, and a few others) gives you certain numbers. To that end I will try to empower YOU to be able to understand the basics about calories, calorie deficits, and why we recommend eating exercise calories. With this knowledge you should be able to easily figure out what your calories should be at for reasonable, healthy weight loss. So without further ado, lets get started.

    1st things first, a few givens must be stated:

    -Everyone's body is slightly different. ALWAYS keep in mind your numbers may not be exactly what MFP thinks simply because everyone's bodies all burn energy at a different rate. Tweaking may be needed.

    - MFP's goals wizard is a "dumb" tool. That means it doesn't care whether a specific goal is healthy and/or right for you, it just subtracts the goal deficit from projected maintenance calories. This means that even if you shouldn't be trying for a 2 lb a week loss, MFP won't care, it will still try to help you get there.

    -1200 calories is a generic number. It's not right for everyone. It's a baseline minimum given out as a floor by MFP based on prior research by the medical community. NOT everyone will need a minimum of 1200, very small people can go under, and bigger people need more.


    OK with those facts firmly set in your mind (please go back and re-read the givens until you have them firmly planted in your skull!), we can continue. Figuring out your perfect deficit isn't magic, it's a few simple formula's base on some basic, worldwide standards, and generally with slight modefication, will work for just about anyone who (besides weight) is generally healthy.

    Here's what you need:
    Height, weight, age, activity level, sex

    NOTE: activity level isn't as mysterious as it sounds. If you have a desk job, and do very little walking throughout the day and don't really perform any sports or physical activities, then you are sedentary, if you do some walking every day (or at least 4 days a week) or other light activity for at least 30 minutes cumulative at least 4 times a week, you are lightly active. If you do 60 minutes of light activity 5 days a week or do some kind of sport that requires walking or light jogging (say swimming or mailman or warehouse employee) then you are active, If you do a physically demanding activity (one that makes you sweat) for 4 days a week or more and for more than 1 hour a day, you are very active (like a coach that runs drills or you play volleyball). When in doubt, go down 1 level, you'd rather burn more than you think than less.

    With all these numbers you can generate your BMI. Now I realize BMI is flawed, but for what we're doing it's good enough. After years on here, and doing lots and lots of research, I've been able to associate general BMI ranges with approximate goal levels. This works for about 80 to 85% of people out there (there's always a few that are outside the curve).

    So now we can figure out where your goal should be.
    Go to the tools section and figure out your BMI:

    Generally someone with a BMI over 32 can do a 1000 calorie a day (2 lbs a week) deficit
    With a BMI of 30 to 32 a deficit of 750 calories is generally correct (about 1.5 lbs a week)
    With a BMI of 28 to 30 a deficit of 500 calories is about right (about 1 lb a week)
    With a BMI of 26 to 28 a deficit of about 300 calories is perfect (about 1/2 lb a week)
    and below 26... well this is where we get fuzzy. See now you're no longer talking about being overweight, so while it's still ok to have a small deficit, you really should shift your focus more towards muscle building, and reducing fat. This means it is EXTRA important to eat your exercise calories as your body needs to KNOW it's ok to burn fat stores, and the only way it will know is if you keep giving it the calories it needs to not enter the famine response (starvation mode).

    With this quick guide you can figure out your goal rather easily. I know many people will say "I can't eat my exercise calories, I gain weight when I do". Well I have news for you, that's not correct. I submit this, if you eat your exercise calories and gain weight 1 of 3 things happened:
    1 you were previously in starvation mode, and you upped your calories, and had an immediate weight gain, that's normal, to be expected, and necessary to get your body on track. Give it a month, that will stop, and you, once again, will begin to lose, but this time, in a healthy manner.
    2 you incorrectly calculated something, either your exercise calories, your calorie intake, or you put in to large of a goal. Go back and check all your numbers.
    3 you haven't given it enough time to work. This site promotes HEALTHY weight loss people. Healthy weight loss doesn't happen in days or weeks, it takes months and years. Each change you make in how you eat needs a month or more to work, be patient, give it time. It will happen.

    And to everyone who has a trainer that doesn't agree with eating your exercise calories. I also submit this: In 90% of the cases (and I have talked to a LOT of trainers about this exact topic) they actually DO agree with this method, you just explained it wrong.
    Just saying to a trainer "should I eat my exercise calories?" isn't enough, you have to explain to them that MFP already generates a deficit prior to any exercise, therefore the deficit will remain whether you exercise or not. Once you give them that idea, and you are relatively sure they understand the concept then I'll bet they change their tune.

    I hope this helps, it's pretty straight forward if you've been here a while, and to you new guys, I recommend going to the message boards link, clicking on the "general diet and weight loss" area, and clicking on those first few posts that have the little mouse trap next to them, they are sticky and will always be there, and are a wealth of knowledge about this site, exercise calories, starvation mode...etc."
  • zeeeb
    zeeeb Posts: 805 Member
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    are you really burning 1000 calories a day? What are you doing to burn that?

    that would have to be some serious exercising... I don't have a heart rate monitor that calculates calories burnt (mine is old) but for the exercise that i do, MFP calculations say that i earn somewhere between 400-600 in an hour of my exercising and i usually think that is over exaggerated.
  • gademast
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    For one thing, I think that you are WAY overestimating the number of calories you are burning. The heavier you are, obviously the more calories you burn, but even at your current weight, it is not easy to burn 1000 calories in a single workout.
  • Sagetheplace
    Sagetheplace Posts: 74 Member
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    Thank you everyone for all the responses. I have been trying to educate myself as much as possible so I can do this right and the healthy way. I do not have a heart rate monitor so I do not know the exact calories I burn. I do know that jillian Michaels BFBM, and NMTZ are both about 57 minutes of circuit training at my wieght and hieght that is stimated at about 850 calories. Then I usally end up walking a bit or something on top of that video. So I usally end up doing circuit trianing for about 60 minutes a day sometimes with weight sometimes without.

    As for nursing I have heard it uses about 300-500 calories a day to nurse. My son eats solid food and somedays nurses alot other days nurses all day to I expect by body burns different amout of calories nursing each day.

    I was thinking about upping my calories from 1400-1600 to about 1800-2000 on days when I workout, which should give me about 1000 calorie deficit on days I work out. I guess I will try thing for 2 weeks and see what happens.

    Thanks for all the information!

    ETA - I also dont include all the running around i do chasing after and playing with my kids, cooking, cleaning, laundry, grocery shopping ect ect. into the equation of calories I burned.
  • mand2k
    mand2k Posts: 4 Member
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    I try to Burn 1000 Cal.
    I achive that by: Running @7mile/Hr for 40 mins.: Cal burned: 860cal
    Stationary cycle: 20 mins :Cal 250 cal
    Gives me: 1110 cal burned in 1 hr session.
  • mand2k
    mand2k Posts: 4 Member
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    I try to Burn 1000 Cal.
    I achive that by: Running @7mile/Hr for 40 mins.: Cal burned: 860cal
    Stationary cycle: 20 mins :Cal 250 cal
    Gives me: 1110 cal burned in 1 hr session.
    Am i doing it right? Suggestions please.
  • phillymills
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    Look at what kind of calories you are eating, it's easy to eat fatty food while counting calories.
  • marcibar
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    Your body could be feeling starved. If you are burning 2300-2500 calories prior to exercise then add another burn of 1000 calories per day, you are burning 3300-3500 calories and only taking in 1600, that is a 1700-1900 calorie defecit. That is BIG. Your body could be protesting. Is your milk supply still good?
  • dejagerw
    dejagerw Posts: 2 Member
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    In your food log add breastfeeding to your breakfast, and it will give you additional calories.