eating healthy is expensive

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  • Eating healthy is more expensive than not is a MYTH! Here is a fabulous article published this week that is backing this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/opinion/sunday/is-junk-food-really-cheaper.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all?src=tp&smid=fb-share
  • Corruptkitten
    Corruptkitten Posts: 157 Member
    Depending where you live sometimes co-op farms have deals on baskets of what's in season and as someone else mentioned the Farmers Market. I always go toward the end when they are pushing the veggies and fruit that they don't want to take back with them and see what deals I can work. Another FM that I go to has one lady that sells day old's that look a little sad, but once you soak (the leafy veggies) in water it perks them right back up. We have started growing lots of our own stuff to save money as well and have guava trees, tangerines, cherimoya, grapefruit, and lemons. You can always buy them from small seedlings to even bigger trees and grow your own as well (if you have the space).
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    Since our family has gone to eating healthier foods, we have almost doubled our grocery bill. Sad to think that it's cheaper to buy a bag of chips or pkg of cookies than it is to buy apples for the week....

    It doesn't have to be more expensive to eat healthier.................

    Shop farmers markets and find local farmers for meat, eggs and raw dairy. If you eat legumes, lentils or nuts - buy in bulk from the dry bulk bins.

    Make your own bread, chicken or beef stock, etc..............

    I have cut our grocery bill down to a fraction of what it was before when my hubby and I were eating the typical S.A.D.
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    I agree. Many people will argue this but my grocery bill has doubled since I started eating healthy. The price of fresh veggies is more than a can of them. The price of fesh meat is more than processed. The price of whole grains is more than processed and so on...

    And the quality and taste is much better. Not to mention the preservatives that are placed in cans that aren't healthy for you.
    I stopped going out as much and wasting as much money in a bar and buy better foods. I'd rather do that and be healthier and live better than not.
  • indycello
    indycello Posts: 147 Member
    If you don't have room for a garden, you can always plant veggies in a flower pot and either hang them or set them outside. I did that when I moved from TX to ND (brrrr) and I couldn't grow much up there but snow lol

    Growing your own and learning how to can is very helpful!! Also pantry trading can be usefull. I did that while I was in college. I would have some plain yogurt I didn't want to use and my friend would have some canned green beans from her step mom and we would food trade. Or as I have seen before the "seconds" section. Aaaand buying in bulk can really save you money. If you haven't one already... I would suggest purchasing a deep freezer so that way you can "stock up" on items when they are on sale and then freeze them!

    also... this may be a little extreme but in my community it is very common for the older children to get part time jobs to help pay for extras.

    I know that in my husband's household when he was growing up mom and dad would supply the basics bread, fruit, veggies, lean protein and meat, flour, sugar, etc. but if he wanted something special like cookies or some ice cream it was up to him to come up with the extra 5 or 6 dollars to purchase that for himself or to share if he so desired. That is how his family was able to survive on one pay check.
  • terar21
    terar21 Posts: 523 Member
    buy fresh fruit and veggies that are in season, they are dirt cheap. It is out of town and out of season produce that costs a lot. On top of that you may want to look into getting dried beans and lentils (way cheaper then canned and way less sodium)

    I agree with this. I'm so guilty of saying that fruit and veggies are expensive when I'm buying watermelon in the dead of winter (well, not really such a thing as "dead of winter" in Houston but you get the point). Doesn't make much sense if you're on a budget.

    Also, be careful of how you buy them. If the veggies you buy are pre-packaged fresh veggies, they are much more expensive than something you'd find at a farmers market.
  • VickiMitkins
    VickiMitkins Posts: 249 Member
    Since our family has gone to eating healthier foods, we have almost doubled our grocery bill. Sad to think that it's cheaper to buy a bag of chips or pkg of cookies than it is to buy apples for the week....

    This is what I don't get. A bag of apples may cost more than a bag of chips, but when you consider volume, serving size and the many things that can be done with them, then they are more affordable. I mean a bag of chips is what 12 oz (12 1 oz servings) and a bag of apples 5 lbs (10-12 6oz servings). I think part of it is that the apples take more effort and anyone with 9 people in the house has to be very busy. But if you really sit down and compare, the healthy food is not always or necessarily more expensive. It is more time consuming though. It also takes a bit more planning because of spoilage potential. There were some great suggestions about sticking with frozen and in season vegies. I have not found frozen fruit to be less expensive than fresh though. The farmers market in our area is hit and miss, but can sometimes find great stuff. We also purchase a lot of stuff from the local asian market. Huge bags of rice for a great price. One of the best places in our area is Aldi. They only stock the staples, but the quality is good and the produce is cheaper than just about anywhere else. We also are able to plant a small garden in the summer. I'm not sure the vegies are any cheaper in the end than store bought, but they sure taste better.
  • WillbeWilma
    WillbeWilma Posts: 9 Member
    I too find that eating healthier is more expensive, in my house we cater to a vegetarian diet, a nut allergy, a gluten free diet, a soy intolerance and a couple of teenage carnivores though so that could add to the costs somewhat!! Extra lean meats/ organic foods are so much more costly than their fatty/ genetically modified counterparts!
  • VickiMitkins
    VickiMitkins Posts: 249 Member
    Eating healthy is more expensive than not is a MYTH! Here is a fabulous article published this week that is backing this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/opinion/sunday/is-junk-food-really-cheaper.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all?src=tp&smid=fb-share

    The article certainly made the point I was trying to make. Although a little more political than it needed to be.
  • Gwen7121
    Gwen7121 Posts: 126 Member
    Frozen vegetables and fruit are often more nutritious than the fresh, as long as they aren't in syrup or sauce. They are usually flash frozen after being picked at the best point of ripeness whereas the vegetable in the produce bin was probably picked last week or so, before the peak of ripeness to ensure longer shelf life, and has been slowly aging, while losing nutrients ever since. The exception being tomatoes & pumpkin, which is actually better for you after being canned. And frozen is way cheaper than fresh, not to mention less chance of waste.

    There's tons of research on the fresh vs frozen/canned idea though. And I'm sure someone will say I'm completely wrong. :)
  • CJK1959
    CJK1959 Posts: 279 Member
    Since our family has gone to eating healthier foods, we have almost doubled our grocery bill. Sad to think that it's cheaper to buy a bag of chips or pkg of cookies than it is to buy apples for the week....

    This is what I don't get. A bag of apples may cost more than a bag of chips, but when you consider volume, serving size and the many things that can be done with them, then they are more affordable. I mean a bag of chips is what 12 oz (12 1 oz servings) and a bag of apples 5 lbs (10-12 6oz servings). I think part of it is that the apples take more effort and anyone with 9 people in the house has to be very busy. But if you really sit down and compare, the healthy food is not always or necessarily more expensive. It is more time consuming though. It also takes a bit more planning because of spoilage potential. There were some great suggestions about sticking with frozen and in season vegies. I have not found frozen fruit to be less expensive than fresh though. The farmers market in our area is hit and miss, but can sometimes find great stuff. We also purchase a lot of stuff from the local asian market. Huge bags of rice for a great price. One of the best places in our area is Aldi. They only stock the staples, but the quality is good and the produce is cheaper than just about anywhere else. We also are able to plant a small garden in the summer. I'm not sure the vegies are any cheaper in the end than store bought, but they sure taste better.

    I agree with the comment about Aldi's. I have found that they have really nice produce, and it is way more affordable than in traditional grocery stores.
  • Kimmer2011
    Kimmer2011 Posts: 569 Member
    Also chiming in on Aldi. They are my favorite place to get staples, and if the produce market weren't half a mile further down, I'd get fruits and vegetables there as well. They don't have the variety of a megamart, but can't be beat for the basics.
  • rossi02
    rossi02 Posts: 549 Member
    Do you have CSAs where you live? I find them to be very reasonable. You get fresh, local produce at a lot cheaper cost. We pay $120 for half of a share over a 10 week period. Every Thursday I go pick up our veggies for the week. This past week it was swiss chard, freash garlic, green house tomatoes, cucumbers and butternut squash.
  • We're a household of three, but my brother fends for himself. Still expensive. We get "club packs" of fresh veggies at the grocery store, like a two pound bag of brussel sprouts for 3.50. If you have a farmer's market nearby they tend to be cheaper than many groceries, in my area anyhow. Veggies and fruits that are in season are cheaper than when out of season.

    We eat alot of beans and rice and bean soup too, which we make. Meat is really expensive so don't eat alot of it, but at Acme they have a 4 for $20 deal sometimes, so we get 4 packs of different meats and freeze most of it.

    Just take your time feeling out what works for you. Write down prices and think ahead when it comes to meal planning, which I'm sure you know anyway :)

    Just do your best, don't worry too much :)
  • P.S. The OP asked for help, the size of their family is a part of the facts, let's not criticize them. Can't we just stick to helping someone who, like us, wants to eat healthier. THAT is what this is about.
  • KimertRuns13_1
    KimertRuns13_1 Posts: 702 Member
    OP... watch your sales papers. Buy when stuff is on sale and freeze when you can.
  • Wow, seriously? I work full time, have benifits for my whole family through my job and do not receive one penny of assistance (not that anyone who does is wrong). That was not where I was going with this post. Who are you to question the children I have or am raising? You know nothing about me or my family. I am seriously shocked to be attacked in this manner when I was simply asking tips on how to spend less money on our groceries. You are way out of line here. In case you missed it the economy is in the crapper, my husbands trade is being hit hard. It wasn't always this way but it is now so we are making due with what we have. I, too, pay taxes. I really can't even believe I'm writing this, how did my post turn into an attack on my family and my character? I am truly shocked.
  • killerqueen17
    killerqueen17 Posts: 536 Member
    Wow, seriously? I work full time, have benifits for my whole family through my job and do not receive one penny of assistance (not that anyone who does is wrong). That was not where I was going with this post. Who are you to question the children I have or am raising? You know nothing about me or my family. I am seriously shocked to be attacked in this manner when I was simply asking tips on how to spend less money on our groceries. You are way out of line here. In case you missed it the economy is in the crapper, my husbands trade is being hit hard. It wasn't always this way but it is now so we are making due with what we have. I, too, pay taxes. I really can't even believe I'm writing this, how did my post turn into an attack on my family and my character? I am truly shocked.

    Aww don't let this one ignorant person get to you... :( nobody is judging you except for him, and he's just making himself look like an idiot!!
  • And for the rest of you, I apprecicate all of your idea's, we do shop at Aldi or Food Basics but I don't do cupons. That will absolutely change right away. I love the steamer packs too as do all of the kids and frozen veggies are a staple I was just worried about using them as opposed to fresh. I will admit I have no idea what to do with beans, but I happen to have 2 bags that were given to me by a neighbor so I will look into using them and let you know how it goes. Thank you all again, its really helpful to have so many ideas .
  • nrvo
    nrvo Posts: 473 Member
    Is there a Costco or Sam's Club in your area? Buying in bulk can save you a ton of money. If not, try buying large bags of dry beans and brown rice at your regular grocery store. They're way less expensive than the canned/frozen/prepackaged kinds.

    If you have a farmer's market in the area, check it out! Seasonal produce is usually the least expensive, and if you shop at the end of the day, vendors are more willing to negotiate for lower prices.

    If you have a yard, maybe consider growing a little garden. It could be a fun and healthy family project!
  • Justkeepswimmin
    Justkeepswimmin Posts: 777 Member
    Holey toledo 9??????

    Okay um normally I scold people for saying eating healthy is expensive (Because for your family of 2-5 it's really not that bad.....and there are ways to save massively w/ coupons, farm markets, and other strategies I'd be happy to share) But 9!!! I can see how that'd get a bit 'up there'

    The biggest one I'd say is find out if there is something called bountiful baskets in your area (or a version of one) They, once a week (usually SAT am) collect product that is in okay condiiton (not perfect but edible) that stores are going to get rid of....and they will give you like 60 lbs of produce for about $10...you'll have to plan your meals around what they have....I can't imagine you both work with 9 kids....so cooking is probably a normal thing for you????

    Also, if you don't know how to CVS/Walgreens/Rite Aid shop yet you NEED to learn because I'm sure shampoo and toothpaste for 9 add up, and drug stores are the way that I have not only gotten my family YEARS supply of toiletries, otc meds, and cleaning supplies FREE (plus evil tax) but had enough to donate to my church, friends AND sell at garage sales. I'm sure your family of 9 could benefit from that strategy. You don't need to pay an online website to learn, find a couponers blog (free) in your local are (to find good local deals you may miss out on otherwise).

    Depending on where you live, growing your own veggies from seedlings can be pretty cheap (depending on where you live!) It was super cheap in OH, here in Phoenix it's not (you gotta buy all these pots and soil ack!) But at least here we have citrus trees so you can plant them or find a neighbor with WAYYYY too many grapefruits or lemons that they know what to do with :)

    Again I don't know where you live but look into zaycon foods - they bring a truck of ORGANIC meats/produce (one item at a time) to certain west coast cities - you have to buy A LOT at once (but you can split w/ another family or....your huge family) and get for ex boneless skinless chick breast ORGANIC for 1.67/lb! 40 lb minimum.

    Learning how to coupon properly in your grocery store can also save a bundle. Try learning on hotcouponworld or slickdeals about your local grocery store....I've often gotten reallly close to free organic foods. A great printable website for organic foods is www.mambosprouts.com

    I could go on and on about ways to save on healthy foods, and it sounds like you really need it! So feel free to add/pm me because I'm horrible at checking back on posts!
  • Do you have CSAs where you live? I find them to be very reasonable. You get fresh, local produce at a lot cheaper cost. We pay $120 for half of a share over a 10 week period. Every Thursday I go pick up our veggies for the week. This past week it was swiss chard, freash garlic, green house tomatoes, cucumbers and butternut squash.

    I'm not sure what this is...but it sounds great!
  • Crowhorse
    Crowhorse Posts: 394 Member
    buy fresh fruit and veggies that are in season, they are dirt cheap. It is out of town and out of season produce that costs a lot. On top of that you may want to look into getting dried beans and lentils (way cheaper then canned and way less sodium)

    This!

    I find it cheaper to eat healthy, fresh/frozen fruits and veggies as long as I don't eat at restaurants or grab fast food. Frozen veggies are just as nutritious as fresh ones... same with fruit. Find farmer markets... buy bulk! Your health is more important and your body will thank you.

    Go with frozen. Usually they are picked and frozen at peak season, so tend to actually be more nutritious than stuff that is harvested then shipped "fresh" (if you want to call them that). Farmers markets (if you have one) also tend to be fresh (but be careful, because sometimes they can be shipped in from other places, as well).

    I have no problem using frozen at all. Just really depends what application you use them for. Eaten out of hand, frozen tend to be mushy if you thaw them. But in just about anything cooked, frozen is the way to go.

    Soups, stews, and chilis are a good way to stretch the food budget and pack in the nutrition.
  • Justkeepswimmin
    Justkeepswimmin Posts: 777 Member
    PS If she wants 9 kids and can do it w/o assistance, more power to her!

    Although I agree with the sentiment of the person you guys are yelling at ("I'm taxed as if it's a punishment") and I do agree with the sentiment that our government is acting in ways it was not meant for when it shows that it believes through its use of taxation money that it has a social responsibility to 'take care of' and 'enable' millions of people into poverty and dependence.....I don't agree that the OP is retarded or has a 'social responsibility' NOT to pursue happiness in as many and any ways as she sees fit so long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others. She's not on assistance and came here looking for ways to learn to DO FOR HERSELF even more, not for a hand out but for ideas of how to work more health into her strained budget! Seriously back off.

    It's not like she's whining b/c she doesn't get assistance and can't eat healthy b/c the govt wont let her....geaush
  • saydee3
    saydee3 Posts: 34 Member
    Nutritionally, frozen vegetables are most often better for you than fresh vegetables. The nutritional content of a vegetable detoriates quickly once it's been picked. Frozen vegetables are generally frozen within 24 hours of being picked, so they are at the height of their nutritional value. Fresh vegetables take a week to get to your grocery store, may sit on the shelf for a couple days, then may linger in your fridge for a week. By the time all that time has passed, the nutritional value has significantly dropped. So, if all you can afford is frozen, you're probably doing better by your family than fresh usually!

    We try to keep on a grocery budget of $50-60/week for two of us, and we love to eat good food! Except on weeks when I need to replenish staples or buy toiletries/cleaning supplies I can keep to that budget. One of my favorite cheap meals is white bean soup. Get one pound of dried white beans (about $1) and cook them with a bag of frozen Italian-style miripoix (diced carrots, celery, onions - which I grab a bunch of when they're on sale at Kroger for $1 or $.075 ea). Once that's done, add in a bag of frozen chopped spinach (also about $1 or less on sale) and a big can of diced tomatoes (about $1.30). When I have it, I'll cook two links of Italian sausage (get the family packs at Sam's/Cosco, they usually are about $2/lb which is way cheaper than the usual grocery store prices - and two links are only about 1/2 lb so it's only $1 for the meat addition) and mix that in. Pour water in to make it soupy enough, it may have thickened in the cooking process and needs extra water. I can make easily 10 servings from this for around $5-7. It's absolutely delicious, and one of our favorite meals.

    I really am a big advocate of replacing meat with beans. We try to eat vegan/vegetarian at least three days a week, and not only is it better for us, we're also saving a ton of money. I make mixed bean chili (which can be put over baked potatoes for a second meal) for just a couple bucks. Red beans and rice is also a great option. If your family likes Indian food, you can make an awesome vegetarian curry with chickpeas (always buy them dried and cook) and frozen spinach, then pour over rice. Tofu is also an excellent option. I go to the Asian market here and get it for $1. I made a Thai curry with one pound of tofu, a few carrots, half a bell pepper, and some onion that fed six for about $8.

    I think the key is stocking up when things are on sale. If you don't already have one, I'd really suggest saving up for a chest or standing freezer. Growing up and even now, that's a saving grace. You can buy lots of things on sale and stock up on them. There's always a bunch of soups, entrees, sides, etc. that I've made and frozen for us. That way, if we don't have time or can't cook something, we have something healthy to eat. We got ours used, so check your local newspaper.

    I also keep all kinds of scraps for stocks. I keep the ends and bits of vegetables (broccoli stems, leftover roasted veg, corn cobs, etc) in the freezer. Once I have several gallon bags full, I throw it all in a pot and cook it down for an hour or so. I usually get around 20-25 cups of really delicious vegetable broth from things that would have otherwise been thrown away. I do the same with chicken bones (keep everything!) and make lots of stocks for soups, dinners, etc. Waste not, want not, right?

    I have lots of ideas, so feel free to friend me and we can chat more if you'd like.
  • P.S. The OP asked for help, the size of their family is a part of the facts, let's not criticize them. Can't we just stick to helping someone who, like us, wants to eat healthier. THAT is what this is about.

    ^^^ SO VALID ^^^

    Although I share certain beliefs on assistance and families being proactive in their decisions, that is NOT the topic of this post. There is a time and a place for everything. This is not the place to vent your frustrations regarding the politics of someone's past decisions based on today's political structure.

    That being said, I would highly recommend a warehouse membership like Costco or BJs. Although there is a fee to be a member, you will save far more than the fee on your grocery bill. Definitely make a meal plan and a grocery list before you go shopping. Stick to your list!

    The advice on finding CSAs in your area is also a very good tip. Here is a link to an article about the 'best' CSAs in your area:

    http://www.phillymag.com/health/articles/eat_local_best_csa_programs032210/?show_ad
  • Justkeepswimmin
    Justkeepswimmin Posts: 777 Member
    P.S. The OP asked for help, the size of their family is a part of the facts, let's not criticize them. Can't we just stick to helping someone who, like us, wants to eat healthier. THAT is what this is about.

    ^^^ SO VALID ^^^

    Although I share certain beliefs on assistance and families being proactive in their decisions, that is NOT the topic of this post. There is a time and a place for everything. This is not the place to vent your frustrations regarding the politics of someone's past decisions based on today's political structure.

    That being said, I would highly recommend a warehouse membership like Costco or BJs. Although there is a fee to be a member, you will save far more than the fee on your grocery bill. Definitely make a meal plan and a grocery list before you go shopping. Stick to your list!

    The advice on finding CSAs in your area is also a very good tip. Here is a link to an article about the 'best' CSAs in your area:

    http://www.phillymag.com/health/articles/eat_local_best_csa_programs032210/?show_ad

    RE warehouse clubs, you need to be VERY careful about those places....I teach people to either share a membership or don't get one at all (When I teach my coupon classes) - unless you're doing it for the gas prices b/c you drive a lot I find the extra cash you spend on things you *think* are cheaper in bulk outweighs the benefits by far. Things like snacks, cereals, toilet paper, etc. you can always find cheaper couponing places that don't charge a yearly membership. Frozen foods you can sometimes get a good deal on at the bulk store, but if you wait for the right sale/coupon at a normal grocery store the normal grocery store will always win on price in the end. If you are both working with 9 kids...then yes...join a bulk store...but if you need inspiration about busy women who coupon you can visit http://jane4girls.com/ - Single woman with 4 kids feeding them on $800 a year - and not all junk! So a married coupole with 7 kids can pull this off if both working by dividing responsibilities as well.
  • rossi02
    rossi02 Posts: 549 Member
    Do you have CSAs where you live? I find them to be very reasonable. You get fresh, local produce at a lot cheaper cost. We pay $120 for half of a share over a 10 week period. Every Thursday I go pick up our veggies for the week. This past week it was swiss chard, freash garlic, green house tomatoes, cucumbers and butternut squash.

    I'm not sure what this is...but it sounds great!

    It stands for Community Supported Agriculture.

    It is great! You pay it all upfront, so the expense is out of the way and you don't have to think about it again til the next sign up time. I love that I'm supporting my community and getting great heathly food. Plus, it's pushed me to try things that I may not have. This past Spring with my first time signing up, then we did the Summer session and we're still in the first half of our Fall session right now.
  • Crowhorse
    Crowhorse Posts: 394 Member
    Eating healthy is more expensive than not is a MYTH! Here is a fabulous article published this week that is backing this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/opinion/sunday/is-junk-food-really-cheaper.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all?src=tp&smid=fb-share

    I read that and laughed at the author. While eating healthy is not undoable, it IS indeed very expensive. Spoilage is the number one thing that makes it really expensive, so it's best to go with frozen when you can and save any non frozen (like lettuce) for when you are certain you are going to use it up right away.

    Not everyone lives in an area that has a farmers market, or with a grocery store just a few blocks down from their home. There's the cost of fuel to run down to the market to keep resupplying (assuming it's unfrozen). And with kids, it's also pretty darn extra inconvenient. Not everyone lives where there are lots of grocers to compete against one another or who do double coupons days. There's all sorts of factors involved that that author doesn't really touch upon, and doesn't even sound experienced with.
  • Crowhorse
    Crowhorse Posts: 394 Member
    PS If she wants 9 kids and can do it w/o assistance, more power to her!

    Although I agree with the sentiment of the person you guys are yelling at ("I'm taxed as if it's a punishment") and I do agree with the sentiment that our government is acting in ways it was not meant for when it shows that it believes through its use of taxation money that it has a social responsibility to 'take care of' and 'enable' millions of people into poverty and dependence.....I don't agree that the OP is retarded or has a 'social responsibility' NOT to pursue happiness in as many and any ways as she sees fit so long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others. She's not on assistance and came here looking for ways to learn to DO FOR HERSELF even more, not for a hand out but for ideas of how to work more health into her strained budget! Seriously back off.

    It's not like she's whining b/c she doesn't get assistance and can't eat healthy b/c the govt wont let her....geaush

    Where's the like button on here?
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