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Lyadeia
Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
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While researching on the internet, I discovered a whole slew of people that dislike the Smith machine for squats saying that it doesn't do a good job. I had never used one before today. I only used it today to see what everyone was complaining about...

I used the same amount of weight on the Smith machine as I did on a free barbell, and I did the same exercise...wide stance squats. I honestly did NOT feel any difference between the two sets that I did. I felt my core burn just the same. I didn't have any balance issues with the free barbell....

So my question is, what then is the difference? Why do some people hate the Smith machine? Why can't I get the same results with the Smith machine as a free barbell? I mean, after doing both, I actually like the machine slightly more because I can adjust my feet to the proper position before handling the bar and weights making it easier on my knees.

Your thoughts?

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  • PBJunkie
    PBJunkie Posts: 652
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    Something to do with the range of motion not being ideal on the smith machine, I read it somewhere and will see if I can find it.
  • xinahay123
    xinahay123 Posts: 63
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    Personally, I like the smith machine. I feel like I can safely use more weight and have my feet in a better position as well. I don't need a partner. There will always be the "hardcore, nothing is as good as barbell" folks. I say that everything has it's advantages. I find that when it comes to lifting, there is always some meat head with an opinion!! Do whatever works for you!! :-)
  • Dandersonjr32
    Dandersonjr32 Posts: 73
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    You don't use the same amount of core stabilizing core muscles with a Smith Machine as you do with the free weights. It's a cheater. Stick to just the squats.
  • deninevi
    deninevi Posts: 934 Member
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  • snookumss
    snookumss Posts: 1,451 Member
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    You don't use the same amount of core stabilizing core muscles with a Smith Machine as you do with the free weights. It's a cheater. Stick to just the squats.

    EXACTLY
  • PBJunkie
    PBJunkie Posts: 652
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    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin6ttt.htm - Opinion of a condition specialist,

    The Smith Machine has been one of the biggest mistakes in strength training equipment, in my opinion. This may sound like an extreme comment to make considering almost every gym and even some rehabilitation facilities now have them for their people to use. Please let me elaborate before you stop reading.

    My biggest problem with the Smith Machine is that people are convinced they are still doing free weight movements when they perform exercises on the Smith Machine. Because an Olympic bar is attatched to the machine does not make this a free weight piece. The reason is this piece only allows movement in a fixed plane of motion. This is one of the many disadvantages of machines that Coach Snideman has stated in his article, Free Weights vs. Machines.

    In any movement that a human performs, almost never are the same muscles or patterns of movement replicated. This is obviously not new to machine training, but with the Smith Machine this becomes even more complicated. A squatting movement is rather complex, especially considering the variations that are available. Even though the bar does not look as though it moves but up and down, all the joints are revolving and this simple movement is not simple. The Smith Machine locks into a very unnatural movement pattern which has the potential to stress inappropriate structures and not train the body in various planes.

    How is this fixed? Really easily, just do the free weight equivalent. If you are worried about getting pinned then you have two options. Work within a power rack in which you can set the bars to help you if you do get stuck, secondly, don't work till failure. As I have stated on numerous occassions you do not need to train to failure to have phenomenal success in the gym. In fact, many would benefit from not training to failure for the majority of their workouts.
  • PBJunkie
    PBJunkie Posts: 652
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    You don't use the same amount of core stabilizing core muscles with a Smith Machine as you do with the free weights. It's a cheater. Stick to just the squats.

    Yes this as well
  • patrick77327
    patrick77327 Posts: 6
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    I used to use the smith machine with squats and hated it. It restricted my movement. Many people have a problem with the free weight squat because they have poor technique with squatting and end up hurting their back or hate the feeling of "extra weight" on the shoulders for the bar. If you like the free weight stick with it and stay away from the smith machine. I personally hate all machines.

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