PALEO
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I ate 8 hot dogs and a pint of Ben & Jerry's the other night. I felt great afterwards!
Does that count as Paleo?
no.
Even if it's paleo ben & jerry's and paleo hot dogs?0 -
You tough guys are so cute.
The benefits of a "revised" (like I said) Paleo lifestyle are the following:
1.) Instead of your body fueling itself off of processed carbs, it in return fuels itself off of fat that you consume...which in return burns fat!
What is dietary fat stored as? So a high fat diet has you eating and GAINING more fat, but burning more fat. But...GAINING more fat, too. Don't forget that.
A higher carb diet has you burning less fat but also gaining LESS fat. Remember that.
Now, you were saying?2.) The energy that is then generated is much more beneficial in everyday life. Meaning, if you are living off of energy from "unnatural" sources your energy is going to have major highs and major lows. What "I have found" is that with Paleo your energy is more consistent through out the day and easier to "peak" when needed. Let's say if you are competing in a competition.
Zero empirical foundation for this claim. Just because YOU feel better doesn't mean EVERYONE will.3.) Your body starts to have a "natural fuel" instead of tanking (your energy) after a massive plate of chicken alfredo pasta.
What? Massive plate of pasta = filled glycogen = TONS of fuel.
Not silly - but you have made zero legitimate claims that make paleo better than a non-paleo diet. All you've said is a misconception regarding CHO/lipid metabolization, and that you personally prefer paleo.Would you like me to go into more detail...or am I just a silly girl with silly thoughts?
I think you may be one of those little guys that just likes to freaking argue for arguing sake. I like to applaud myself for telling you to go somewhere else. If you don't like the ideas of the people on this board, or in life in general...go away. Obviously, you find flaws in us all. Do I care, no. Because I don't go home to you at night. Go eat your pasta and fill up that glycogen, while I go eat a steak and salad.
He just asked you to provide empirical evidence as to why Paleo is better than a common calorie restricted diet. No need to get all huffy puffy and tell him to go away.0 -
I ate 8 hot dogs and a pint of Ben & Jerry's the other night. I felt great afterwards!
Does that count as Paleo?
no.
Even if it's paleo ben & jerry's and paleo hot dogs?
har har but no, not even then.0 -
I think you may be one of those little guys that just likes to freaking argue for arguing sake. I like to applaud myself for telling you to go somewhere else. If you don't like the ideas of the people on this board, or in life in general...go away. Obviously, you find flaws in us all. Do I care, no. Because I don't go home to you at night. Go eat your pasta and fill up that glycogen, while I go eat a steak and salad.
I'm not sure that taking some defensive stance with no actual evidence found to back up your claim is helping the validity of your former posts.
"I don't know what to say because I am wrong, so now I will be rude for no reason."
Is that what you're about?
We just try to educate people who need it. Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.0 -
Why are you trying to criticize me for simply telling you that you have misconceptions regarding nutrition and the body's metabolic response to macronutrients?I think you may be one of those little guys that just likes to freaking argue for arguing sake. I like to applaud myself for telling you to go somewhere else. If you don't like the ideas of the people on this board, or in life in general...go away. Obviously, you find flaws in us all. Do I care, no. Because I don't go home to you at night. Go eat your pasta and fill up that glycogen, while I go eat a steak and salad.
You are spouting ideas that are false. While they may work for YOU, you act as though paleo is somehow superior to a non-paleo diet. If you said, "I like paleo, but it isn't the universally best diet" then that's fine. But you didn't - you actually tried to make the claim that paleo has a metabolic edge.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-we-get-fat.html
I highly, highly suggest you read that. You'll probably ignore it, but you should. It will explain lots.0 -
Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.
LOL. You LIVE for it.0 -
People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.
Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.
But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.0 -
But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
thank youuuuuu0 -
Fair enough.People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.
Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.
But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
OP - there is no health advantage to a paleolithic diet than a non-paleolithic diet assuming your calories are moderated, macronutrients balanced, and minimal micronutrients met.
Clear?0 -
Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.
LOL. You LIVE for it.
Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!0 -
People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.
Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.
But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
Exactly what health advantages does a paleo diet provide?0 -
People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.
Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.
But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
You do realize, a sensibly made diet should be constructed with sufficient micronutrient intake and avoid harmful dietary substances (like synthetic trans-fats).
Therefore a Paleo diet is in no way more or less healthy than a sensibly constructed diet.0 -
Maybe being wrong, getting called out, and then going into defensive mode makes you hit your goals quicker. The pendulum of judgment goes both ways.Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!
Are you going to keep sitting here pouting, or maybe learn something by reading the links we've provided? Call us blunt if you want, but we're at least offering information that is based on empirical research. You have provided nothing but anecdotal evidence, and when that was pointed out, you accused us of getting off on arguing.
Read the links, provide concrete information, stop accusing us of just wanting to argue, or leave. Despite our blunt approach, we are contributing in some form.0 -
People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.
Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.
But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
You do realize, a sensibly made diet should be constructed with sufficient micronutrient intake and avoid harmful dietary substances (like synthetic trans-fats).
Therefore a Paleo diet is in no way more or less healthy than a sensibly constructed diet.
What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?0 -
Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.
LOL. You LIVE for it.
Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!
No need to attack him. Reported.0 -
Not excessively argue for our own egotistical pleasure.
LOL. You LIVE for it.
Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!
No need to attack him. Reported.
The troll is offended.
Priceless.0 -
No need to attack him. Reported.
seriously?0 -
Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!
Does trolling and being consistently rude help you feel better about being misinformed?
I've been providing actual studies and evidence to my claims, only to your benefit. It would be wise if you did less feel-good trolling and more reading on the actual evidences and links posted.0 -
Maybe arguing makes his deadlift numbers go up! PR in arguing!
Does trolling and being consistently rude help you feel better about being misinformed?
I've been providing actual studies and evidence to my claims, only to your benefit. It would be wise if you did less feel-good trolling and more reading on the actual evidences and links posted.
good grief0 -
No one has an issue with that.What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?
There's an issue with claiming grains, dairy, and legumes are bad, though, and having ZERO proper empirical evidence to support such a claim.0 -
No need to attack him. Reported.
seriously?
Yes. Serious. Why u mad?0 -
What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?
Absolutely nothing. Please go back and reread my post and realize that I never said Paleo or primal eating is disadvantageous; I only stated that it is unnecessarily restrictive and offers no physiological benefit in comparison to any other sensibly constructed diet.0 -
No need to attack him. Reported.
seriously?
Yes. Serious. Why u mad?
uhh i think we can all handle oursleves here. thanks.0 -
Yes, but that is not what you said. You said "Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet."People, THERE IS MORE TO HEALTH THAN WEIGHT LOSS.
Are there weight loss advantages to a calorie restricted paleo diet versus a calorie restricted Twinkie diet in metabolically healthy individuals? No.
But the OP did not even ASK ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS.
You do realize, a sensibly made diet should be constructed with sufficient micronutrient intake and avoid harmful dietary substances (like synthetic trans-fats).
Therefore a Paleo diet is in no way more or less healthy than a sensibly constructed diet.0 -
No one has an issue with that.What about eating meat, veggies & fruit and healthy fats has your knickers in such a twist?
There's an issue with claiming grains, dairy, and legumes are bad, though, and having ZERO proper empirical evidence to support such a claim.
Wait, did I ever say "grains, dairy, and legumes are bad?" And did I actually say that I find a benefit in my own personal energy levels and lifestyle when eating a diet BASED OFF of fats, fruit and veggies? While cutting out processed foods. Oh, and that I actually live a sort of "revised" Paleo lifestyle. Goodness.0 -
Yes, but that is not what you said. You said "Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet."
I said that because it's true and I've provided ample evidence to support my claim. If you're referring to the word "silly" - I consider any pointlessly restrictive diet that provides no advantages to any other calorie restrictive diet "silly".0 -
No need to attack him. Reported.
seriously?
Yes. Serious. Why u mad?
uhh i think we can all handle oursleves here. thanks.
It's okay, I think it's kinda cute.0 -
Yes, but that is not what you said. You said "Paleo is silly and in no way advantageous to any other calorie restrictive diet."
I said that because it's true and I've provided ample evidence to support my claim. If you're referring to the word "silly" - I consider any pointlessly restrictive diet that provides no advantages to any other calorie restrictive diet "silly".
So what I see as personal benefits from eating the way I do, is...silly?0 -
Was my response directed towards you, or another poster?Wait, did I ever say "grains, dairy, and legumes are bad?" And did I actually say that I find a benefit in my own personal energy levels and lifestyle when eating a diet BASED OFF of fats, fruit and veggies? While cutting out processed foods. Oh, and that I actually live a sort of "revised" Paleo lifestyle. Goodness.
Have you read our links yet? Or is ignorance too bliss to challenge your own preconceived notions?0 -
No need to attack him. Reported.
seriously?
Yes. Serious. Why u mad?
uhh i think we can all handle oursleves here. thanks.
It's okay, I think it's kinda cute.
LOL. im going to resume my normal life - thanks for your help girl
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