SUGAR in fruit and milk

Hanna1983

Guys,

this has probably been asked before .. many times. However I did a search and couldnt find the exact topic.

The only thing where I am always over in my food diary is the sodding SUGAR. :grumble:

When I add all my meals up and deduct the sugar I eat in milk and fruit, however, I would not be over my sugar allowance.

Does sugar in fruit and milk count? Or should I not worry about it?

Thank you so much!

Hanna1983

Guys,

this has probably been asked before .. many times. However I did a search and couldnt find the exact topic.

The only thing where I am always over in my food diary is the sodding SUGAR. :grumble:

When I add all my meals up and deduct the sugar I eat in milk and fruit, however, I would not be over my sugar allowance.

Does sugar in fruit and milk count? Or should I not worry about it?

Thank you so much!

cbrooks66

I believe it does count...

TROUBLE2

Sugar is sugar, yes there are good sugars and bad sugars, but overall sugar is sugar.

everything in moderation, if you are eating 3 servings of fruit a day you will undoubtably be over your sugar intake a day. especially if you eat grapes or bananas. I found out that the amount of the grapes I was eating in one day was 7 times the amount i should, then i ate an apple and an orange or banana every day on top of that, couple that with 3 gallons of milk a week and I was way over my limit.

my triglycerides payed the price, and now I ma leary of sugars. But I have found that sugar like anything else is good in moderation...

how many glasses of milk a day do you drink and how many servings of fruit do you eat a day?

another thing is you said fruit juice? fruit juice is nothing but sugar, it is NOT good for you. you will get more nutrition from actually eating fruit than drinking fruit juice...

TRLTAMPA

sugar from fruit is better than processed sugar, but im not sure about dairy. if ur eating too much sugar from apples and bananas, instead of milky ways (mmmmm)... then going over once in a while isn't that bad.
are u eating more than your reccommended servings of fruit?

Hanna1983

Thanks for replying.

Well today I ate

28 grapes = 22 sugar
1 banana = 14 sugar
50ml milk = 4 sugar

I am only allowed 27 sugar a day. with the fruit and milk above I am already over the allowance by 3. :grumble:

How am i supposed to eat fruit and normal foods and not go over 27 g of sugar / day???

:frown:

sarabear

Is sugar added up on our calorie counter? I'm confused

Hanna1983

yes it is. i changed my settings so it shows sugar.
and i am over every day because of fruit and milk :grumble:

sarabear

AH HA! I'm a dork! I see it :laugh: HOLY COW! I had cereal and milk and grapes for breakfast, I'M AT 19, and I'm allowed 30! WHAT?? Now I'm like you confused!

Dustdevil

clementines are a good fruit that is low in natural sugar

Hanna1983

AH HA! I'm a dork! I see it :laugh: HOLY COW! I had cereal and milk and grapes for breakfast, I'M AT 19, and I'm allowed 30! WHAT?? Now I'm like you confused!

Glad im not alone with my confusion here! :frown:

how bad is that? I exceeded my allowance by eating some grapes and a banana :noway:
so what now, not eat any fruit anymore??

Hanna1983

Can you please let me know what breakfasts i can eat that dont contain sugar? i thought i would be healthy eating fruit for breakfast... obviously not ! :noway:

lydiamitchel3

I have the same problem. I've just had breakfast (1/2 whole wheat bagel & teaspoon peanut butter, 1 cup blueberries, 1 small banana) and I'm ALREADY over on sugar!

naner

I don't know much about this. I say eat the fruit its better for you than eatting candy!!!! do we have to count our sugar?? I wasn't doing that. i eat alot of fruit. it makes you go potty LOL :huh:

Hanna1983

I don't know much about this. I say eat the fruit its better for you than eatting candy!!!! do we have to count our sugar?? I wasn't doing that. i eat alot of fruit. it makes you go potty LOL :huh:

Thats exactly what I thoguht as well and I thought it would be good having regular number 2s. :ohwell:

what can i swapp fruit for then?

Nuts?

naner

nuts r high in fat too! I think you should eat the good stuff. fruit and nuts r great for you! i eat them for snacks. Have you ever seen the show you are what you eat??? I have the book it had alot of great advice in it..i looked up fruit. " fruits are nutrient-rich and a great source of live enzymes and antioxidants 2 boost ur immune system and energy levels". the best fruits r blueberries,blackberries,reasberries,strawberries,watermelon,apples,apricot,cherries,grapes,
peaches,pears,plums,raisins and tangerines.

she also says u should eat at least one or two fresh raw seasonal fruits a day!!!


hope that helps!:drinker:

ivykivy

Don't worry about it so much unless you are diabetic. Fruit is fine. What is more important is the glycemic index of the food. Sugar refined has a higher GI and you should eat it with a protein if you're gonna have it. But fruits and vegetables usually don't spike your blood sugar (except watermelon) since they are complex carbs and take a while to break down.

Dustdevil

Stay away from pineapple, raisins and ripe bananas for the high glycemic spikes. When you come down you will be craving again.

SteffCooley

I had this SAME question shortly after I joined too! I was told then that natural sugars, such as in fruit, are just fine. Although, everyone's advice was - EVERYTHING IN MODERATION. Don't load up on a half flat of strawberries a day, LOL! Anyways, it is the processed sugars that are in boxed-type foods that you need to monitor and try to stay within your allowance. Once I started ignoring the sugar count for the fruits, I was perfectly normal in my every day sugar intake, and was usually below my limit.

Fruits are a perfectly good choice to add to your daily intake - they are encouraged!!

meg0112

EAT ALL THE FRUIT YOU WANT! The sugar in fruit is natural and your body breaks it down quickly-which is good. This is what I can't stand about low carb diets, they are pretty much no fruit. Fruit is packed with vitamins, FIBER, and most have a very high amount of water in them. Fruit is an amazing food, made from nature mind you, and you diet should consist primarily of fruit and veggies.

As for dairy (esp milk) this is how I look at: Has any animal in the history of the world consumed diary after being a child other than humans? NO! Have you ever heard of a giraffe or elephant having bone diffeciency? NO! And think for a minute about what milk does- it takes a baby(of any species) and makes it double its weight in very short periods of time. Do you want to double your weight? Have you considered the fat in dairy? And considering the hormones pumped into those cows that the milk comes from (unless you drink organic) and the chemicals that then go into the milk, can you really call it a drink from nature?

Lose the dairy and lose weight. Eat fruit, stay full, and saty pooping (essential to losing weight)

Just my 2 cents :happy:

meg0112

Stay away from rasins yes, but bananas are very filling, high in potassium (which if you every get muscel cramps after working out it means you need more potassium) and high in fiber- a small banana has 3 grams of fiber. Pineapples are like candy-so eat them to curb cravings and ward off illness (VITAMIN C)

Hanna1983

Thank you meg

thats exactly what I had heard before. but I havent been losing weight well and am wondering if it is because i go over my sugar all the time.

I just wonder, surely if natural sugar wouldnt count, it wouldnt show in the nutritional information and then in the food diary?

I am completely confused now :ohwell:

naner

Stay away from rasins yes, but bananas are very filling, high in potassium (which if you every get muscel cramps after working out it means you need more potassium) and high in fiber- a small banana has 3 grams of fiber. Pineapples are like candy-so eat them to curb cravings and ward off illness (VITAMIN C)

y rasins????

SteffCooley

I'm assuming they are saying no to raisins because they are high in calories and not too filling. I put 1/8 cup of raisins in my oatmeal, which really is NOT that much....... and it is 65 calories!

meg0112

plus they are dried fruit, so they've lost a lot of their nutritional value- you get way more bang for your buck so to speak with grapes :drinker:

Fitness_Chick

Stay away from rasins yes, but bananas are very filling, high in potassium (which if you every get muscel cramps after working out it means you need more potassium) and high in fiber- a small banana has 3 grams of fiber. Pineapples are like candy-so eat them to curb cravings and ward off illness (VITAMIN C)

y rasins????

2 T. of raisons is equal to a serving of grapes I believe...they are dried grapes so the sugar content is much more instense. As would be dried banana chips, any of the dried fruits.

Regarding a question earlier...yes we want to count EVERY type of food we're eating, whether it's fruits, veggies, dairy, etc.

Fitness_Chick

EAT ALL THE FRUIT YOU WANT! The sugar in fruit is natural and your body breaks it down quickly-which is good. This is what I can't stand about low carb diets, they are pretty much no fruit. Fruit is packed with vitamins, FIBER, and most have a very high amount of water in them. Fruit is an amazing food, made from nature mind you, and you diet should consist primarily of fruit and veggies.

As for dairy (esp milk) this is how I look at: Has any animal in the history of the world consumed diary after being a child other than humans? NO! Have you ever heard of a giraffe or elephant having bone diffeciency? NO! And think for a minute about what milk does- it takes a baby(of any species) and makes it double its weight in very short periods of time. Do you want to double your weight? Have you considered the fat in dairy? And considering the hormones pumped into those cows that the milk comes from (unless you drink organic) and the chemicals that then go into the milk, can you really call it a drink from nature?

Lose the dairy and lose weight. Eat fruit, stay full, and saty pooping (essential to losing weight)

Just my 2 cents :happy:

whoa wait a second....I'm not sure that 'eat all the fruit you want' is perhaps the best response to a newer person, we do want to use some caution and wisdom giving a sweeping statement such as that:noway: :flowerforyou: ....fruit counts just as protein does, dairy gives us our allotment of calcium...we dont' want to kick out one food source for another. If you MFP food diary is set up correctly you should be able to be allowed all the cals your body needs to function properly and still be losing weight because of the MFP calorie deficit figured in.

But meal planning is a good thing to do so you can see what you are left with as you figure in your meals. 1 small banana is one serving, or half a med. 1 cup milk is one serving. Perhaps since this is bothering you so much change up your sugars and add in something else to use as a guide on your food data??

I have protein, carbs (which are much more an indicator of sugars and more accurate), fiber, sodium, dairy(?, I'm missing one and don't recall it right off)

Sugars are carbs but if you use the carb as one of your sections, you'll probably find it more accurate to go by and find you most likely won't go over. Dairy is made up of many valueable nutrients. Protein, Carbs, and some have fiber added. Giving up protein and carbs form milk because is has sugar in it...well, keep in mind it's NOT ADDED SUGAR, it is part of milk.

Perhaps check your food labels a bit and that may help you to understand that a carton of milk doesn't have much added to it, sometimes Vit. D, I'm using skim milk as an example here.

Please let us know if you have any questions on resetting your guidlines in your food diary.:flowerforyou:

FC

MisoSoup79

I disagree with the warning to stay away from raisins and other dried fruits. There is nothing wrong with consuming some of your fruits dried - raisins are great added to cereal & yogurt or mixed with nuts for a trail mix. Yes, they are higher in calories per ounce than grapes, but all dried fruits should be eaten in smaller amounts than fresh because once the water is gone, they take up less space. Aside from some vitamin C, very little is lost from the grape when it is dried. Just be sure no sugar has been added to your dried fruits - they should be all natural, sans water.

Here are two links to check out:
http://www.vegfamily.com/dietician-marty/raw-versus-dried-fruits.htm
http://www.raisins.net/Raisins and Health 4_28.pdf

I eat prunes on mornings when I choose something low in fiber & carbs for breakfast (like eggs and sausage!) Prunes pack more anti-oxidants ounce for ounce than most fresh fruits and they take up less space than eating a whole apple.

Yes, dried fruits still have natural sugars, but I don't dwell on the natural stuff.

sassiebritches

I don't know much about this. I say eat the fruit its better for you than eatting candy!!!! do we have to count our sugar?? I wasn't doing that. i eat alot of fruit. it makes you go potty LOL :huh:

Thats exactly what I thoguht as well and I thought it would be good having regular number 2s. :ohwell:

what can i swapp fruit for then?

Nuts?

Fiber supplements are a good way to get "regular and Toity Time" and they say fiber helps keep you full longer. I have a taste free powder I drop into coffee in the am......

Go Green!

FletcherChic

sugar IS sugar...anything on a label that ends in "ose" is a sugar (sucrose, lactose, fructose, galactose, etc)...simple sugars (sucrose ie: table sugar!) cause a high and rapid spike in insulin (bad bad bad) so THAT is the sugar to stay away from....all sugar should be limited though (yes - you actually can get fat eating too much fruit/fructose)...berries, especially raspberries, are pretty low in sugar (you can always google "foods with low glycemic index" to be sure)....i wouldn't cut out milk products completely because they do provide beneficial nutrients, but if you're looking to cut back and still have "milk" in your diet, try unsweetened almond milk (i like the vanilla)...here is how they compare (8 oz 1% milk vs 8 oz unsweetened almond milk :130 cals vs 40 cals, 14 carbs vs 2 carbs, fat is the same at 3 grams, sugar is 15 vs 0, protein is 15 vs 1)... i use this in place of milk for my cereal and it soooo good.... i do still consume yogurt but i make sure it's a high protein yogurt (Fage) so that it tempers that rise in insulin (or you could always just eat some protein with your regular yogurt)....i am very sensitive to sugar and i know my body relies heavily on it so i try to cut out sugars anywhere i can...i hope this helps! :flowerforyou:

LeanLioness

EAT ALL THE FRUIT YOU WANT! The sugar in fruit is natural and your body breaks it down quickly-which is good. This is what I can't stand about low carb diets, they are pretty much no fruit. Fruit is packed with vitamins, FIBER, and most have a very high amount of water in them. Fruit is an amazing food, made from nature mind you, and you diet should consist primarily of fruit and veggies.

As for dairy (esp milk) this is how I look at: Has any animal in the history of the world consumed diary after being a child other than humans? NO! Have you ever heard of a giraffe or elephant having bone diffeciency? NO! And think for a minute about what milk does- it takes a baby(of any species) and makes it double its weight in very short periods of time. Do you want to double your weight? Have you considered the fat in dairy? And considering the hormones pumped into those cows that the milk comes from (unless you drink organic) and the chemicals that then go into the milk, can you really call it a drink from nature?

Lose the dairy and lose weight. Eat fruit, stay full, and saty pooping (essential to losing weight)

Just my 2 cents :happy:

Please don't down low carb diets, no one is downing your plan......................they are much healthier than most of the plans I see people doing on this site. Low carb or controlled carb plans DO INCLUDE FRUIT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ADD IT IN...............Please don't speak on somethng you are not educated about.

And if you eat all the fruit you want, your tryglycerides are probably so sky high that you are a candidate for getting heart disease or having a stroke, hardening of the arteries, etc.........................

I am on a low carb diet (Atkins to be specific) and I probably eat WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more healthy than the majority of people on this site. Yes, I do eat fruit, just in limited quantities.