diet coke, sugar free desserts etc.

mrshickey

i bake sugar free cakes, make sugar free desserts, drink sugar free pop, sweeten fat free yoghurt with sweetener, etc etc and when i do have something with real sugar i dont overindulge because of the effect of the sweetener, i have less bc i know how sugar affects me. i think its ok in moderation- i drink about 2 litres of water a day, and have a can of pepsi max or diet coke when i want one. i think its ok. it cant be any worse than the gm food we eat but are unaware of, or the pesticides and chemicals used to mass produce fruit and veg we eat!!!

HMonsterX

I dont have a problem with diet drinks However soda is bad for you its more the carbination than anything else actually. They do have a new study out saying that artifical sugars deaden your sweet taste receptors and when you do eat something with sugar people usually ended up eating twice what they normally would to get the same sweet taste.

Our stomach acid is far more acidic than the stuff in soda, so the soda is nothing compared to what is naturally in our stomachs anyway.

As for ended up eating twice as much...just don't eat that much then. Show willpower.

Soda or diet soda by themselves are not detrimental to health or weight loss, especially when consumed in moderation.

Diet products have been known to actually hinder weight loss...

Have you got any proof of this? Any real proof other than just correlation, and that shows the actual diet product itself hinders the loss, rather than just silly people thinking they can eat more calories because they have had a diet product?

piratepiet

I'm in the uk and here there is calorie info for diet cola and it does say that is has 1 calorie in a 330 ml can. I've seen lots of people say that in the US the labeling info isn't as strict as over here so bare that in mind if your having multiple cans/ bottles a day.

I think you will explode before you go over your calorie-limit with 1 cal per can ;-)

cppeace

I dont have a problem with diet drinks However soda is bad for you its more the carbination than anything else actually. They do have a new study out saying that artifical sugars deaden your sweet taste receptors and when you do eat something with sugar people usually ended up eating twice what they normally would to get the same sweet taste.

Our stomach acid is far more acidic than the stuff in soda, so the soda is nothing compared to what is naturally in our stomachs anyway.

As for ended up eating twice as much...just don't eat that much then. Show willpower.

Soda or diet soda by themselves are not detrimental to health or weight loss, especially when consumed in moderation.

Diet products have been known to actually hinder weight loss...

Have you got any proof of this? Any real proof other than just correlation, and that shows the actual diet product itself hinders the loss, rather than just silly people thinking they can eat more calories because they have had a diet product?

http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/aspartame.php

There has been multiple studies on the effects of asparatame sucralose and other fake sugars...
They have been known to make you crave more carbs and possibly effect your thyriod and stomach
This isn't a tell all.. i don't particularly care what people eat and drink.. I stay as natural as possible myself and even before dropping much weight felt simply healthier when I got off fake sugar.
Do as you will- it is your life... I simply think staying natural as possible is logical to me
Kimmy

Laurayinz

I'm a Dr. Pepper 10 girl myself...

I looked at those the other day, checked the ingredients and saw that it's basically Diet (aspartame) with a splash of HFCS. I put it back. I am thinking about trying the Pepsi throwbacks (or whatever they're called) that are made with real sugar. I couldn't only find the 12oz cans though, not the cute little 7.5's that I've been getting in regular Coke (and only managing to drink 1/2 of).

LorinaLynn

I mean it can take rust off a car battery.

So does baking soda, and it's in a lot of toothpastes.

hoppinglark

"No-Cal Drinks Yield Bigger Weight Loss"
http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/OBESITY/28942


The first rule in Toxicology is that everything is a poison if the dose is high enough.
A few diet cokes with (one with each meal for example) will not be a problem for most people.
If you were born in the U.S. you were screened for PKU , so you would know if you should avoid Phenylalamine,
one of the two amino acids in "Aspartame".

Last time I checked both of the amino acids in aspartame have codons in our genetic code, so your body can use it to make proteins, but only if needed. Phenylalamine is also converted to Tyrosine which is the starting point for the synthesis of Norepinephrine. Like salt, a little is okay but too much of any one thing, is always bad.

The FDA allows products with 5 calories or less per serving to be marketed as 0 per serving
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/1calorie.asp

HMonsterX

How much aspartame may people consume?

The FDA uses the concept of an Acceptable Daily Intake (ADI) for many food additives, including aspartame. The ADI represents an intake level that if maintained each day throughout a person's lifetime would be considered very safe. The ADI for aspartame has been set at 50 milligrams per kilogram (mg/kg) of body weight.

How much aspartame are people actually consuming today?

The FDA monitors the amount of aspartame that Americans consume through ongoing dietary surveys. The average daily intake of Americans is less than 2 percent of the FDA guideline for acceptable consumption. The most frequent consumers of aspartame are consuming only 4 percent to 7 percent of the ADI.

Ty for that link. I'd call that pretty safe tbh

Many people report that if they regular consume products containing aspartame, such as Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi, over time the symptoms, especially headaches, become progressively worse, often beginning within an hour of consuming the aspartame. At the office here, several people have commented that they have noted these same symptoms. Since aspartame is combine with caffeine, it is difficult to know which (or both, or neither) are related to the symptoms.

As i said, some people will experience a reaction to it. But most of us wont. And for the most of us, it's perfectly safe

PB67

I dont have a problem with diet drinks However soda is bad for you its more the carbination than anything else actually. They do have a new study out saying that artifical sugars deaden your sweet taste receptors and when you do eat something with sugar people usually ended up eating twice what they normally would to get the same sweet taste.

Our stomach acid is far more acidic than the stuff in soda, so the soda is nothing compared to what is naturally in our stomachs anyway.

As for ended up eating twice as much...just don't eat that much then. Show willpower.

Soda or diet soda by themselves are not detrimental to health or weight loss, especially when consumed in moderation.

Diet products have been known to actually hinder weight loss...

Have you got any proof of this? Any real proof other than just correlation, and that shows the actual diet product itself hinders the loss, rather than just silly people thinking they can eat more calories because they have had a diet product?

http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/aspartame.php

There has been multiple studies on the effects of asparatame sucralose and other fake sugars...
They have been known to make you crave more carbs and possibly effect your thyriod and stomach[
This isn't a tell all.. i don't particularly care what people eat and drink.. I stay as natural as possible myself and even before dropping much weight felt simply healthier when I got off fake sugar.
Do as you will- it is your life... I simply think staying natural as possible is logical to me
Kimmy

If you are unfortunate enough to be a rat who has had massive amounts of aspartame injected directly into your brain, then you may have a problem.

If you're a human, you don't have to worry.

Painten

I'm in the uk and here there is calorie info for diet cola and it does say that is has 1 calorie in a 330 ml can. I've seen lots of people say that in the US the labeling info isn't as strict as over here so bare that in mind if your having multiple cans/ bottles a day.

I think you will explode before you go over your calorie-limit with 1 cal per can ;-)

I wasn't suggesting that people would drink 2000 cals worth of diet cola but it can push you over the edge if your assuming it's no calories and your drinking it like people drink water then it could be a problem. I do know someone who drink over 2 ltrs of the stuff a day, if not more.

whitney22blue

i have thryoid problems and aspartamine can affect the amout of thyroxine produced but so can strawberries, spinach, soya, cabbage and peanuts.
I avoid all of them, soya is in many foods, its used in most chocolates - and i adore chocolate.

chickybuns

All soda is bad for you. I personally feel that diet soda is worse, although I think it due to no calories. I try not to drink a lot, and am hoping to quit soon, but I really do like it. I'm honestly not worried about it hurting me.

itontae

enjoy in moderation.
It's no big deal

AnninStPaul

I am not sure that this is true, but my Dr a long time ago said that sugar-free -anything- is like a place holder. It doesn't have the calories but it causes your body to still crave the sweet flavor. Your brain thinks it's getting the sugar so it will continue to cause you to want it. He said the best bet is to go through the two weeks or so of withdrawal so that your brain doesn't want ti anymore.

It worked for me for several things. I loved chocolate but no longer crave it. I stopped drinking soda 20 years ago and still don't crave it. I don't eat meat very often and don't crave it. It sounds good once in awhile, but I never 'have' to have it anymore.

I have read (in scientific journals) that disconnecting the sensation of sweetness from caloric intake causes confusion between the stomach and the brain, such that people then eat more to achieve fullness. Also, that HFCS (while providing both sweetness and calories) doesn't result in release of the hormones that signal satiety, so you don't feel "full".

Personally, I gave up artificial sweeteners (including HFCS) 4+ years ago...it took a little while to get out of the habit of ordering a diet coke with meals, but water has become my beverage of choice.

HMonsterX

All soda is bad for you.

Really? Why?

kmorris246

Drink this stuff in moderation.... theres plenty of research out there that states too much of it causes weight gain. I don't think one/day will hurt you in the long run, but there are absolutely no nutritional benefits and all this processed crap is why so much of America is obese. Pay attention to Dr. Oz people, if we quit buying this crap, and start buying more healthy foods, then prices of healthy food will go down and the cheap, processed crap will go up in price. (and yes, anything Dr. Oz says is 100% true for me- lol)

steffiejoe

I never really thought about the effects of diet soda, that is until I had two clients in one year tell me they think the brain tumors they had were caused by drinking diet coke. Of course they could not prove this .



Just made me wonder... I stay away from the stuff.

The last time I had a soda it was the old throw back Dr.Pepper made with pure cane sugar.

ninerbuff

You are right you shouldn't have too much of it. I have known a lot of people who have gained weight drinking the sugar subsitute drinks and desserts. All sugar subs should be avoided. There are lots of articles on the net about the effects of sugar subs. You are best to eat the regular items and in moderation and count the calories. I think that's the big trick, since it's 0, we tend to reward ourselves with more. I'm all about quanity, so diet and sugar free items are not my choice anymore. I just skip it all together. I might have a diet coke once a month as a treat.

Good luck Smiley! It's a hard long road we are on, but we can do it.

I've know a lot of people who eat healthy and are overweight. I know lots of people who drink diet drinks and are slim. Anecdotes are evidence.

ninerbuff

All soda is bad for you. I personally feel that diet soda is worse, although I think it due to no calories. I try not to drink a lot, and am hoping to quit soon, but I really do like it. I'm honestly not worried about it hurting me.

Soda is no worse than walking in a smogging LA.

ShellyRae7

You're right ninerbuff. I guess we don't need someone to tell us what to do and what not to do. Every one is different and react to foods differently. listen to your body.

piratepiet

I'm in the uk and here there is calorie info for diet cola and it does say that is has 1 calorie in a 330 ml can. I've seen lots of people say that in the US the labeling info isn't as strict as over here so bare that in mind if your having multiple cans/ bottles a day.

I think you will explode before you go over your calorie-limit with 1 cal per can ;-)

I wasn't suggesting that people would drink 2000 cals worth of diet cola but it can push you over the edge if your assuming it's no calories and your drinking it like people drink water then it could be a problem. I do know someone who drink over 2 ltrs of the stuff a day, if not more.

And if that person drinks 5 l that would make 15 cals, we all know that 15calories are not gonna make a difference even if you got them over you allowed net calories. I get your point, and i don't want to fight, but 1 cal on a can is not worth thinking about

lookitscaitlin

If you are unfortunate enough to be a rat who has had massive amounts of aspartame injected directly into your brain, then you may have a problem.

If you're a human, you don't have to worry.

good way to put it.

fiberartist219

It's clearly not good for me

Clearly?

Clearly.

While this might be clear as mud, it can't hurt to try. If it makes you feel better to avoid sweeteners, then by all means, avoid sweeteners. If it you don't notice a difference, go back to consuming them.

auctoritas

The jury is still out on artificial sweeteners causing cancer, but I've definitely heard a lot of anecdotal evidence suggesting a trend in artificially sweetened things causing plateaus in weight loss and generally unhealthy feelings physically. If you find yourself stalling in weight loss, or feeling really not great, that's always the first thing that should be cut out I think. But if you're indulging in moderation, and it's not a huge part of what you're consuming, and you're feeling no side effects, including increased hunger or cravings for other things, then eat whatever.

But listen to YOUR body. Other people can't tell you what only you can feel.

meex

I find if you have something like this that you love and it isn't too bad for you it can act as a reward and help you to continue. Like i have muesli and yoghurt for breakfast, it's not too bad calorie wise and i just love it. I look forward to it everyday it's like a reward for sticking to my diet the day before. lol. Try to keep it to just once per day and you can have it to look forward to and reward yourself with

AureliaCotta

I love diet soda. I used to have a big problem with drinking tons of it...so did the 6 year old. So when we moved the hubby and I decided that we weren't going to buy it for the house. I admit, I miss it and now only have it whenever we're out...but not having it around the house is forcing me to drink more water.