Phentermine

Tegan74

Ok... so my dr. put me on Phentermine to help control my appetite (I don't eat much anyway) because he said I need to lose weight because I'm fatigued, etc (Really, all symptoms of hypothyroidism but he doesn't want to test). I ate twice today and maybe two or three bites. No real meal. I've been really excited (not jittery or hyper). Called dr. and he said cut it in half. I'm SO afraid of rebounding once I'm off of it. It's not like I'm not working out and eating right because I am but I can't lose weight. Is Phentermine really neccessary? Will it really help me lose weight and change my habits or will it starve my body and make me rebound?

What is it with the idiot dr's lately?? Find a diff dr!!

Cella30

My doctor also prescribed this for me at the beginning of the year. It definitely worked. For the first time in probably my whole life I could barely eat. I had to force myself to try to get in 1200 calories. I lost weight but it was awful. I stopped sleeping completely - I've never felt so horrible. I was so exhausted I couldn't work out...it took everything to even walk to the bathroom. After two weeks (even going to 1/2 pill) I couldn't do it anymore. I stopped taking it and my appetite was crazy. I couldn't stop eating. I put back on all the weight I lost.

I'm not pro or against diet pills, but I've tried Phen and it wasn't worth it to me at all. I almost wish I hadn't tried it at all, it messed me up. You gotta do what's good for you though so I wish you luck! :flowerforyou:

d2footballJRC

Let me start out and say this.. There is nothing wrong with Phentermine... if used correctly.

I must be the only pro person for Phentermine on this site. I'm cool with that. I used it for a month while getting in the habit. It was a great tool. People knock it and want everything to be 100% clean. They aren't living in reality. Phentermine was a huge blessing for me and a great boost to the start of my lifestyle change. To call a Dr. idiot's for prescribing it I think is harsh. The problem is they don't explain what it is and the rules and how to use it.

Is it a pill to take and lose weight and be happy? No... it's a tool.. You take it and you create good habits. If you aren't forming good habits then you will have a bad experience and you will gain that weight back and more.

I'm not a Dr. nor a weight loss specialist but I have dropped a **** ton of weight fast and getting stronger, faster, and leaner in the process. Phentermine really helped jump start that. Use it as a tool and and not an answer and it's a great product. Funny enough I've lost faster without the Phentermine but the phentermine really helped get that gym habit going. I think it's a great and wonderful short term tool if you are truly ready to lose the weight. Anyone who insults it without trying it, being on it, or understanding its use is saying it just to say they are against it. Those that tried it some have had bad experiences and I completely understand that, it's not for everyone I will say that every time. You have to be ready to change your life if you go on it. Many people aren't. Biggest problem I had was I was put on too high of a dose, but that is why my Dr. checked back with me in 1 week. We lowered my dose and I was off of it after 45 days or so. 2 weeks of weaning off after being on it a month.

If you wanted to go to the Dr. then give his advice a shot, if you didn't want the medicine or his advice why did you go? So many come on here and complain about all Dr's. If you are uncomfortable with one Dr's, go see another. If you don't want the medicines or any Dr.'s advice then why go at all? Not directing towards OP just to people in general.

I hate seeing all the hatred spewed towards phentermine on here. Is my lifestyle accomplish less then yours because I took phentermine? Is my hours in the gym somehow voided out? Is the fact I've stuck with it as I've watched a good chunk on my friends list struggle or quit all together make me using phentermine as out to be cheating? In the end we all want to get to the same goal. Some of us need different paths for others.

You asked is Phentermine necessary or right for you.. The one who can answer that question is yourself. Do you think you need it? If the answer is no, then you have your answer right there. Are you ready to only be on it a short time and for good habits? If you say no then you have your answer right there. It's a tool, please don't treat it like a solve all or poison. It's neither of these.

d2footballJRC

My doctor also prescribed this for me at the beginning of the year. It definitely worked. For the first time in probably my whole life I could barely eat. I had to force myself to try to get in 1200 calories. I lost weight but it was awful. I stopped sleeping completely - I've never felt so horrible. I was so exhausted I couldn't work out...it took everything to even walk to the bathroom. After two weeks (even going to 1/2 pill) I couldn't do it anymore. I stopped taking it and my appetite was crazy. I couldn't stop eating. I put back on all the weight I lost.

I'm not pro or against diet pills, but I've tried Phen and it wasn't worth it to me at all. I almost wish I hadn't tried it at all, it messed me up. You gotta do what's good for you though so I wish you luck! :flowerforyou:

I respect this opinion. You've tried it. I agree my first week was pretty insane. Wasn't hungry, didn't sleep I got cut from 47.5mg down to half pills.. I noticed it took a couple weeks for my body to really get used to it. By the time I felt it wasn't even having an effect on me I was on half of that and weaning off.

Missjulesdid

Get a new doctor please. He should at least be running the tests for your thyroid... and if they come back "normal" ask to see the actual numbers. Even if your TSH is 5 some doctors will say that you're "normal" but a good endocrinologist will know that this is not normal. A lot of hypo people don't feel well until their TSH gets controlled to under 2.

As for the phentermine, I took it and after a few months but I had to quit because it was affecting my aerobic capacity. I could only take half a pill because any more than that and I never wanted to eat at ALL and I was sooooooo constipated and wound up.

CityOnAHill

If your doctor wont' test for Thryoid trouble I'd find another Doc PDQ! You need 2nd opion.!

^^^ This!

lmelangley

I think you should get a second opinion - someone who's willing to run a simple blood test.

I also would avoid weight loss drugs. Even if they help you to lose weight, that weight loss isn't sustainable once you go off the drugs. There are no magic pills.

But, seriously, get a second opinion.

Missjulesdid

Let me start out and say this.. There is nothing wrong with Phentermine... if used correctly.

I must be the only pro person for Phentermine on this site. I'm cool with that. I used it for a month while getting in the habit. It was a great tool. People knock it and want everything to be 100% clean. They aren't living in reality. Phentermine was a huge blessing for me and a great boost to the start of my lifestyle change. To call a Dr. idiot's for prescribing it I think is harsh. The problem is they don't explain what it is and the rules and how to use it.

Is it a pill to take and lose weight and be happy? No... it's a tool.. You take it and you create good habits. If you aren't forming good habits then you will have a bad experience and you will gain that weight back and more.

I'm not a Dr. nor a weight loss specialist but I have dropped a **** ton of weight fast and getting stronger, faster, and leaner in the process. Phentermine really helped jump start that. Use it as a tool and and not an answer and it's a great product. Funny enough I've lost faster without the Phentermine but the phentermine really helped get that gym habit going. I think it's a great and wonderful short term tool if you are truly ready to lose the weight. Anyone who insults it without trying it, being on it, or understanding its use is saying it just to say they are against it. Those that tried it some have had bad experiences and I completely understand that, it's not for everyone I will say that every time. You have to be ready to change your life if you go on it. Many people aren't. Biggest problem I had was I was put on too high of a dose, but that is why my Dr. checked back with me in 1 week. We lowered my dose and I was off of it after 45 days or so. 2 weeks of weaning off after being on it a month.

If you wanted to go to the Dr. then give his advice a shot, if you didn't want the medicine or his advice why did you go? So many come on here and complain about all Dr's. If you are uncomfortable with one Dr's, go see another. If you don't want the medicines or any Dr.'s advice then why go at all? Not directing towards OP just to people in general.

I hate seeing all the hatred spewed towards phentermine on here. Is my lifestyle accomplish less then yours because I took phentermine? Is my hours in the gym somehow voided out? Is the fact I've stuck with it as I've watched a good chunk on my friends list struggle or quit all together make me using phentermine as out to be cheating? In the end we all want to get to the same goal. Some of us need different paths for others.

You asked is Phentermine necessary or right for you.. The one who can answer that question is yourself. Do you think you need it? If the answer is no, then you have your answer right there. Are you ready to only be on it a short time and for good habits? If you say no then you have your answer right there. It's a tool, please don't treat it like a solve all or poison. It's neither of these.

I'm not anti Phentermine, but I have a huge problem that this doctor didn't even run a thyroid panel on this patient. I struggled for a long time with hypothyroid but my doctor didn't run a panel because my thyroid felt normal....I finally switched doctors and he ran a panel it turned out I was hypothyroid.

tammylwv

a few years ago a person I worked with died leaving her husband and 2 yr old twin girls. The cause was from a heart condition that was caused by her use of this drug. It sounds as if you have doubts over this and at the end of the day you need to listen to your gut.

i had actually tried that before myself and while it does affect your appetite and it does help you lose weight, it doesn't teach you how to change your lifestyle. My cousin lost 50 lbs in just 4 or 5 months but did it last? no.

I also have hypothyroidism. Your doctor needs to run tests to rule out other causes, especially if you are new. There are a wide range of things that can cause fatigue. By suppressing your appetite from what you say is an already low one, is just going to throw your body into starvation.

d2footballJRC

I'm not anti Phentermine, but I have a huge problem that this doctor didn't even run a thyroid panel on this patient. I struggled for a long time with hypothyroid but my doctor didn't run a panel because my thyroid felt normal....I finally switched doctors and he ran a panel it turned out I was hypothyroid.

100% I agree with that, that is why I said if something the dr says you don't agree with go to another one. I find it odd the Dr. wouldn't be willing to run a simple not overly expensive blood test.

maddyg1989

Is it a pill to take and lose weight and be happy? No... it's a tool.. You take it and you create good habits. If you aren't forming good habits then you will have a bad experience and you will gain that weight back and more.

I'm not a Dr. nor a weight loss specialist but I have dropped a **** ton of weight fast and getting stronger, faster, and leaner in the process. Phentermine really helped jump start that. Use it as a tool and and not an answer and it's a great product. Funny enough I've lost faster without the Phentermine but the phentermine really helped get that gym habit going. I think it's a great and wonderful short term tool if you are truly ready to lose the weight. Anyone who insults it without trying it, being on it, or understanding its use is saying it just to say they are against it. Those that tried it some have had bad experiences and I completely understand that, it's not for everyone I will say that every time. You have to be ready to change your life if you go on it. Many people aren't. Biggest problem I had was I was put on too high of a dose, but that is why my Dr. checked back with me in 1 week. We lowered my dose and I was off of it after 45 days or so. 2 weeks of weaning off after being on it a month.

If you wanted to go to the Dr. then give his advice a shot, if you didn't want the medicine or his advice why did you go? So many come on here and complain about all Dr's. If you are uncomfortable with one Dr's, go see another. If you don't want the medicines or any Dr.'s advice then why go at all? Not directing towards OP just to people in general.

I didn't see the dr for my weight. I saw him because of all of the crazy symptoms I've been having for a really long time (1.5+ years). Just because weight gain/hard to lose weight was one of the symptoms, it's ok to be put on a weight loss drug? Especially when I can run a mile and not get winded? Yes, I am overweight, but I'm healthy. I have good habits, like I mentioned earlier. Maybe I do need to eat less (which I am working on) but do I need a prescription to help me? My dr hasn't given me any advice except "Here. Take this once every morning, 30 minutes before you eat. It'll help you lose weight." That's not advice... that's an instant solution with no explanation or warning.

I took it for two days. I didn't eat half of my calorie limit. And I really didn't like the excitability and slight dizziness I had at work. My boss probably thinks I'm a whack now. I've had two thyroid panels done by two different doctors. One perfectly normal (1.5 years ago), the other slightly elevated hormone level but this doctor wrote it off because of my BC (Same dr who gave me the prescription). He's adamant that it's not hypothyroidism but will not try another, newer test or for any other possibilities.

I don't want to be put on a bunch of meds until we get the right one. I'd rather be stuck, poked, prodded, lanced, etc. until I know what the heck is wrong with me (a 22 yr old with crazy fatigue, hair loss, cold hands/feet, etc). I'm definitely going to see someone else. I just haven't found anyone yet who will keep testing.

Tegan74

Is it a pill to take and lose weight and be happy? No... it's a tool.. You take it and you create good habits. If you aren't forming good habits then you will have a bad experience and you will gain that weight back and more.

I'm not a Dr. nor a weight loss specialist but I have dropped a **** ton of weight fast and getting stronger, faster, and leaner in the process. Phentermine really helped jump start that. Use it as a tool and and not an answer and it's a great product. Funny enough I've lost faster without the Phentermine but the phentermine really helped get that gym habit going. I think it's a great and wonderful short term tool if you are truly ready to lose the weight. Anyone who insults it without trying it, being on it, or understanding its use is saying it just to say they are against it. Those that tried it some have had bad experiences and I completely understand that, it's not for everyone I will say that every time. You have to be ready to change your life if you go on it. Many people aren't. Biggest problem I had was I was put on too high of a dose, but that is why my Dr. checked back with me in 1 week. We lowered my dose and I was off of it after 45 days or so. 2 weeks of weaning off after being on it a month.

If you wanted to go to the Dr. then give his advice a shot, if you didn't want the medicine or his advice why did you go? So many come on here and complain about all Dr's. If you are uncomfortable with one Dr's, go see another. If you don't want the medicines or any Dr.'s advice then why go at all? Not directing towards OP just to people in general.

I didn't see the dr for my weight. I saw him because of all of the crazy symptoms I've been having for a really long time (1.5+ years). Just because weight gain/hard to lose weight was one of the symptoms, it's ok to be put on a weight loss drug? Especially when I can run a mile and not get winded? Yes, I am overweight, but I'm healthy. I have good habits, like I mentioned earlier. Maybe I do need to eat less (which I am working on) but do I need a prescription to help me? My dr hasn't given me any advice except "Here. Take this once every morning, 30 minutes before you eat. It'll help you lose weight." That's not advice... that's an instant solution with no explanation or warning.

I took it for two days. I didn't eat half of my calorie limit. And I really didn't like the excitability and slight dizziness I had at work. My boss probably thinks I'm a whack now. I've had two thyroid panels done by two different doctors. One perfectly normal (1.5 years ago), the other slightly elevated hormone level but this doctor wrote it off because of my BC (Same dr who gave me the prescription). He's adamant that it's not hypothyroidism but will not try another, newer test or for any other possibilities.

I don't want to be put on a bunch of meds until we get the right one. I'd rather be stuck, poked, prodded, lanced, etc. until I know what the heck is wrong with me (a 22 yr old with crazy fatigue, hair loss, cold hands/feet, etc). I'm definitely going to see someone else. I just haven't found anyone yet who will keep testing.

Get the numbers on the thyroid test. My grandmother and mother are both on thyroid med's, both had to be tested multi times because the dr's kept saying the numbers were 'normal' without telling them the 'normal' range for numbers OR telling them what the numbers were coming back. Also, from what they went thru, I know that alot of times the lab doesnt do what is considered a 'full panel' ~ there is a shorter test that is relied on but as with everything else people arent 'one size fits all'.
You can also go to your local health food store and talk to someone there about an herbal supplement to help with under active thyroid. Not wal-mart, not a drug store, not GNC, a real health food store (theres only one around here that I've found, other than GNC. GNC does not carry the herbal thyroid pill). Usually along with the other things you mentioned, your 'normal' temp will be around 97.6 or lower ~ when you start taking the herbal supplement, your 'normal' temp should come up to 98.6, thats your fist sign that it is thyroid issues, and the pill is helping. You'll also notice you have more energy. At that point if you want to go back to the dr and either have them retest, or just point out what you've found out so he/she/it can put you on Rx meds thats up to you

Missjulesdid

Is it a pill to take and lose weight and be happy? No... it's a tool.. You take it and you create good habits. If you aren't forming good habits then you will have a bad experience and you will gain that weight back and more.

I'm not a Dr. nor a weight loss specialist but I have dropped a **** ton of weight fast and getting stronger, faster, and leaner in the process. Phentermine really helped jump start that. Use it as a tool and and not an answer and it's a great product. Funny enough I've lost faster without the Phentermine but the phentermine really helped get that gym habit going. I think it's a great and wonderful short term tool if you are truly ready to lose the weight. Anyone who insults it without trying it, being on it, or understanding its use is saying it just to say they are against it. Those that tried it some have had bad experiences and I completely understand that, it's not for everyone I will say that every time. You have to be ready to change your life if you go on it. Many people aren't. Biggest problem I had was I was put on too high of a dose, but that is why my Dr. checked back with me in 1 week. We lowered my dose and I was off of it after 45 days or so. 2 weeks of weaning off after being on it a month.

If you wanted to go to the Dr. then give his advice a shot, if you didn't want the medicine or his advice why did you go? So many come on here and complain about all Dr's. If you are uncomfortable with one Dr's, go see another. If you don't want the medicines or any Dr.'s advice then why go at all? Not directing towards OP just to people in general.

I didn't see the dr for my weight. I saw him because of all of the crazy symptoms I've been having for a really long time (1.5+ years). Just because weight gain/hard to lose weight was one of the symptoms, it's ok to be put on a weight loss drug? Especially when I can run a mile and not get winded? Yes, I am overweight, but I'm healthy. I have good habits, like I mentioned earlier. Maybe I do need to eat less (which I am working on) but do I need a prescription to help me? My dr hasn't given me any advice except "Here. Take this once every morning, 30 minutes before you eat. It'll help you lose weight." That's not advice... that's an instant solution with no explanation or warning.

I took it for two days. I didn't eat half of my calorie limit. And I really didn't like the excitability and slight dizziness I had at work. My boss probably thinks I'm a whack now. I've had two thyroid panels done by two different doctors. One perfectly normal (1.5 years ago), the other slightly elevated hormone level but this doctor wrote it off because of my BC (Same dr who gave me the prescription). He's adamant that it's not hypothyroidism but will not try another, newer test or for any other possibilities.

I don't want to be put on a bunch of meds until we get the right one. I'd rather be stuck, poked, prodded, lanced, etc. until I know what the heck is wrong with me (a 22 yr old with crazy fatigue, hair loss, cold hands/feet, etc). I'm definitely going to see someone else. I just haven't found anyone yet who will keep testing.

Get the numbers on the thyroid test. My grandmother and mother are both on thyroid med's, both had to be tested multi times because the dr's kept saying the numbers were 'normal' without telling them the 'normal' range for numbers OR telling them what the numbers were coming back. Also, from what they went thru, I know that alot of times the lab doesnt do what is considered a 'full panel' ~ there is a shorter test that is relied on but as with everything else people arent 'one size fits all'.
You can also go to your local health food store and talk to someone there about an herbal supplement to help with under active thyroid. Not wal-mart, not a drug store, not GNC, a real health food store (theres only one around here that I've found, other than GNC. GNC does not carry the herbal thyroid pill). Usually along with the other things you mentioned, your 'normal' temp will be around 97.6 or lower ~ when you start taking the herbal supplement, your 'normal' temp should come up to 98.6, thats your fist sign that it is thyroid issues, and the pill is helping. You'll also notice you have more energy. At that point if you want to go back to the dr and either have them retest, or just point out what you've found out so he/she/it can put you on Rx meds thats up to you

Yup temp was a big indicator for me. I was trying to conceive so I was taking my bbt every morning and it was 95-96. I even bought another thermometer because I thought the first one was broken! When I added up my run down feeling, aches and pains, low temp, hair loss, super heavy periods, eyebrow loss, rough arms it all pointed to hypothyroid to me I changed doctors and got my new doctor to run a panel and then insisted upon a referral to an endocrinologist.

maddyg1989

My adoptive mom and her mom have hypothyroidism as well as my MIL and SIL. My mom is really into all natural remedies so she's searching everything on the internet about hypothyroidism. Check out stopthethyroidmadness.com. It's helped me get an idea about what I should do but I can't find a good doctor in my area to help me figure this out.

Also, my temp runs around 97.1 during the day. I think I get close to 98 during a workout. Haven't checked it in the mornings though. I've taken DHEA to help with the fatigue and it works great. I stopped taking it though because few tests show that it increases estrogen which gives women a higher chance of getting breast cancer later on.

maddyg1989

I didn't take Phentermine yesterday (only took it Sun and Mon) and I felt horrible. I looked drunk while going out to dinner last night. I don't drink either. I could barely eat anything last night and my husband pretty much made me eat. I looked like a little child pushing away and fighting with a parent!!! It was soo pathetic. And the mood swings. Ugh. I'm a little better today. Just glad I didn't stay on it longer. My husband officially wants me to find another doctor!!!

Ebbie10

Well said! I love your post

edorice

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DoubleE615312

Is it a pill to take and lose weight and be happy? No... it's a tool.. You take it and you create good habits. If you aren't forming good habits then you will have a bad experience and you will gain that weight back and more.

I'm not a Dr. nor a weight loss specialist but I have dropped a **** ton of weight fast and getting stronger, faster, and leaner in the process. Phentermine really helped jump start that. Use it as a tool and and not an answer and it's a great product. Funny enough I've lost faster without the Phentermine but the phentermine really helped get that gym habit going. I think it's a great and wonderful short term tool if you are truly ready to lose the weight. Anyone who insults it without trying it, being on it, or understanding its use is saying it just to say they are against it. Those that tried it some have had bad experiences and I completely understand that, it's not for everyone I will say that every time. You have to be ready to change your life if you go on it. Many people aren't. Biggest problem I had was I was put on too high of a dose, but that is why my Dr. checked back with me in 1 week. We lowered my dose and I was off of it after 45 days or so. 2 weeks of weaning off after being on it a month.

If you wanted to go to the Dr. then give his advice a shot, if you didn't want the medicine or his advice why did you go? So many come on here and complain about all Dr's. If you are uncomfortable with one Dr's, go see another. If you don't want the medicines or any Dr.'s advice then why go at all? Not directing towards OP just to people in general.

I didn't see the dr for my weight. I saw him because of all of the crazy symptoms I've been having for a really long time (1.5+ years). Just because weight gain/hard to lose weight was one of the symptoms, it's ok to be put on a weight loss drug? Especially when I can run a mile and not get winded? Yes, I am overweight, but I'm healthy. I have good habits, like I mentioned earlier. Maybe I do need to eat less (which I am working on) but do I need a prescription to help me? My dr hasn't given me any advice except "Here. Take this once every morning, 30 minutes before you eat. It'll help you lose weight." That's not advice... that's an instant solution with no explanation or warning.

I took it for two days. I didn't eat half of my calorie limit. And I really didn't like the excitability and slight dizziness I had at work. My boss probably thinks I'm a whack now. I've had two thyroid panels done by two different doctors. One perfectly normal (1.5 years ago), the other slightly elevated hormone level but this doctor wrote it off because of my BC (Same dr who gave me the prescription). He's adamant that it's not hypothyroidism but will not try another, newer test or for any other possibilities.

I don't want to be put on a bunch of meds until we get the right one. I'd rather be stuck, poked, prodded, lanced, etc. until I know what the heck is wrong with me (a 22 yr old with crazy fatigue, hair loss, cold hands/feet, etc). I'm definitely going to see someone else. I just haven't found anyone yet who will keep testing.

Sounds like you need your antibodies tested. That is what happened to me, all my thyroid numbers were normal except for the antibodies. My immune system was attacking my thyroid, causing all the same symptoms you are having. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's hypothyroidism. Been on my meds for a year now and what a complete difference in the way I feel.