Food Stamps
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It's not really what people are buying with foodstamps that bothers me as much as people who are abusing the assistance. I know people who don't work and keep having more kids just to get more from the state. Yet the people who are working and trying to make things better for them and their family don't get the help they need.0
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Honestly, we should all go live in cuba, everyone gets food stamps there, 6 eggs a monthl! And two cups of rice!Delishus, stop complaining about who has what, and live your life. Bust your *kitten*, and get rich. = America0
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*snort* Gosh you guys are entertaining.
Your more educational than discovery channel. I truly mean that because while I have studied your country never have I actually got to study the everyday opinions on topics like this.
And that is my little Australian view on the subject now I'm just going to keep reading.0 -
I think you need to be careful about the huge generalizations going on here. You saw one couple with poor food choices, thus 'all' people on food stamps have low self esteem. I've done case work with people who were about to become homeless, were single moms with kids with disabilities, etc. There is an entire layer of people living in poverty, or almost poverty in the US. The Anglo, 'middle class' is typically unaware of those beyond our radar, and it's easy to judge. People fall through cracks in our culture for all kinds of reasons. They might be choosing food that sure, gives comfort, fills up a family quicker than lean, healthy meals, or is cheaper, thus they can buy more of.
Plenty of folks pay cash for the same unhealthy, over processed foods; do you toss everyone into a bag of 'low self esteem'? I think a better attitude to have is to assume you don't know anything (really) about their personal story and not to make assumptions. This is a tough time for families, individuals and almost everyone in this country, economically.
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Not once did I say all people on food stamps do this. But too many people do. And heck yes I'm hating that I don't qualify lol. WTF, I need it more than other folks do. Honestly, it pisses me off that my old friend can afford to have her smart phone and buy her high-end makeup but is on food stamps. Grrrrr! I have to just pay the basics: rent, utilities, phone, food, school, and I don't qualify. BTW, this computer and internet service? My parent's, not mine. My smartphone? I'm on my parent's family plan and only pay $10 for my line, and I bought my iphone when I was working and could afford it. For those of you nosey people who wanted to know.0
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wow. just.....wow.
the economy and unemployment rate have forced some people, who never dreamed of accepting government assistance, to swallow their pride and accept the help that enables them to feel their families.
I personally know families that have used the assistance to buy organic, healthy food for their families. But I suppose that is bad too....I mean, wasting government money on expensive organic food. The nerve.0 -
So is everyone on this thread poor? And who said everyone getting food stamps are not educated? You wouldn't believe the people who get or qualify for assistance. I know some one in the Army with a high rank that get them. The economy is so messed up right now.0
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Cashiers tend to notice trends, at least I did. It's an occupational hazard of the job. People were always complaining about what people buy with food stamps (lobster for example) but what are you going to do about it? There's the WIC program where they have to buy healthy food but it's not very efficient and it drives everyone in line behind you crazy. I don't know what the answer is but I do understand why OP is noticing it-- it's hard not to look at what people buy when you're checking out their groceries.0
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*snort* Gosh you guys are entertaining.
Your more educational than discovery channel. I truly mean that because while I have studied your country never have I actually got to study the everyday opinions on topics like this.
And that is my little Australian view on the subject now I'm just going to keep reading.
:laugh:
I take living in a border city with the US for granted. I would never want to live there, but it sure is entertaining!0 -
I feel I need to share a story with you all...
When I left my ex husband I had a 2.5 year old, hadn't had a job in 3 years (home raising our child), and had $17 dollars in my bank account.
The people that know me here know that I eat well. I am a vegan and my daughter never once had a drop of formula, I made every ounce of her baby food myself and kept her in cloth diapers 85% of the time. I never fed her packaged anything. She was my ONE shot at growing a happy healthy child and I took that job very seriously (still do now that she's almost a teenager).
I have a college degree and marketable skills in a number of industries. But I had $17 and no immediate prospects. I applied for Food Stamps and received them.
Buying my whole foods, fruits and vegetables to feed my daughter was HUMILIATING. Why? Because everyone in line looked at what was in my cart - looking for reasons to look down on me. I had to start shopping in the middle of the night in crappy grocery stores in bad neighborhoods where my selections were greatly limited to avoid the glowering looks by those that thought they were better than me.
After 3 weeks I gave up my food stamps so that they wouldn't go unused. Thankfully it was only a few more slightly hungry weeks before I had enough work to make up for the budget shortfall.
People have a stereotype of "welfare cases" - and I can assure you that's NOT reality. Sure, you may have seen some *kitten* abuse the privilege but you probably didn't see the dozens of others of poor single mothers who were forced to shop in the middle of the night to avoid you looking down on them.0 -
'Thousands and thousands...' ? You don't know this for a fact, you're just tossing out words. What are your citations/sources for these facts?
How do you know you won't qualify for assistance? Go try.
Oh come on, don't deny it either. You think only a couple of people do this? Please.
& I did try. I don't qualify.
We figured it out people. She's totally hating that she can't get them! HAHAH.
Wow, that was really low class. Way to go making fun of someone working for a living who can't get help when she needs it. Applause to you. Bet you feel better now.
I do. Thanks love!
You owe the OP an apology. You are most decidedly picking on her and even rubbed it in her face that she can't get assistance when she needs it, and your claim otherwise is laughable given these comments.0 -
It's not really what people are buying with foodstamps that bothers me as much as people who are abusing the assistance. I know people who don't work and keep having more kids just to get more from the state. Yet the people who are working and trying to make things better for them and their family don't get the help they need.
Tell me about it! I work my bony azz off for crap wages yet I can't afford health insurance and make "too much" for Medi-Cal and food stamps. There's so many of us in this grey area that make "too much" for that little bit of help yet make too little to be able to live decently. Yet there's so many that count on this money and they know how to work the system and the s hitbirds brag about it! Ugh!!!!!!!!0 -
I feel I need to share a story with you all...
When I left my ex husband I had a 2.5 year old, hadn't had a job in 3 years (home raising our child), and had $17 dollars in my bank account.
The people that know me here know that I eat well. I am a vegan and my daughter never once had a drop of formula, I made every ounce of her baby food myself and kept her in cloth diapers 85% of the time. I never fed her packaged anything. She was my ONE shot at growing a happy healthy child and I took that job very seriously (still do now that she's almost a teenager).
I have a college degree and marketable skills in a number of industries. But I had $17 and no immediate prospects. I applied for Food Stamps and received them.
Buying my whole foods, fruits and vegetables to feed my daughter was HUMILIATING. Why? Because everyone in line looked at what was in my cart - looking for reasons to look down on me. I had to start shopping in the middle of the night in crappy grocery stores in bad neighborhoods where my selections were greatly limited to avoid the glowering looks by those that thought they were better than me.
After 3 weeks I gave up my food stamps so that they wouldn't go unused. Thankfully it was only a few more slightly hungry weeks before I had enough work to make up for the budget shortfall.
People have a stereotype of "welfare cases" - and I can assure you that's NOT reality. Sure, you may have seen some *kitten* abuse the privilege but you probably didn't see the dozens of others of poor single mothers who were forced to shop in the middle of the night to avoid you looking down on them.
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I feel I need to share a story with you all...
When I left my ex husband I had a 2.5 year old, hadn't had a job in 3 years (home raising our child), and had $17 dollars in my bank account.
The people that know me here know that I eat well. I am a vegan and my daughter never once had a drop of formula, I made every ounce of her baby food myself and kept her in cloth diapers 85% of the time. I never fed her packaged anything. She was my ONE shot at growing a happy healthy child and I took that job very seriously (still do now that she's almost a teenager).
I have a college degree and marketable skills in a number of industries. But I had $17 and no immediate prospects. I applied for Food Stamps and received them.
Buying my whole foods, fruits and vegetables to feed my daughter was HUMILIATING. Why? Because everyone in line looked at what was in my cart - looking for reasons to look down on me. I had to start shopping in the middle of the night in crappy grocery stores in bad neighborhoods where my selections were greatly limited to avoid the glowering looks by those that thought they were better than me.
After 3 weeks I gave up my food stamps so that they wouldn't go unused. Thankfully it was only a few more slightly hungry weeks before I had enough work to make up for the budget shortfall.
People have a stereotype of "welfare cases" - and I can assure you that's NOT reality. Sure, you may have seen some *kitten* abuse the privilege but you probably didn't see the dozens of others of poor single mothers who were forced to shop in the middle of the night to avoid you looking down on them.
You are more amazing to me every single day.0 -
I feel I need to share a story with you all...
When I left my ex husband I had a 2.5 year old, hadn't had a job in 3 years (home raising our child), and had $17 dollars in my bank account.
The people that know me here know that I eat well. I am a vegan and my daughter never once had a drop of formula, I made every ounce of her baby food myself and kept her in cloth diapers 85% of the time. I never fed her packaged anything. She was my ONE shot at growing a happy healthy child and I took that job very seriously (still do now that she's almost a teenager).
I have a college degree and marketable skills in a number of industries. But I had $17 and no immediate prospects. I applied for Food Stamps and received them.
Buying my whole foods, fruits and vegetables to feed my daughter was HUMILIATING. Why? Because everyone in line looked at what was in my cart - looking for reasons to look down on me. I had to start shopping in the middle of the night in crappy grocery stores in bad neighborhoods where my selections were greatly limited to avoid the glowering looks by those that thought they were better than me.
After 3 weeks I gave up my food stamps so that they wouldn't go unused. Thankfully it was only a few more slightly hungry weeks before I had enough work to make up for the budget shortfall.
People have a stereotype of "welfare cases" - and I can assure you that's NOT reality. Sure, you may have seen some *kitten* abuse the privilege but you probably didn't see the dozens of others of poor single mothers who were forced to shop in the middle of the night to avoid you looking down on them.
First off, I'm sorry to hear this. But when is it going to resognate that I DONT look down on people who are on food stamps?? If I could be on food stamps I would because I seriously am BARELY getting by! And honestly, it breaks my heart when I see families buying food with food stamps and feel that they need to hide or pay with their heads down low. I know that there are plenty of people who deserve them. I just don't understand how many times I have to repeat this. My problem is with those who are already privileged, yet still receive food stamps.0 -
I feel I need to share a story with you all...
When I left my ex husband I had a 2.5 year old, hadn't had a job in 3 years (home raising our child), and had $17 dollars in my bank account.
The people that know me here know that I eat well. I am a vegan and my daughter never once had a drop of formula, I made every ounce of her baby food myself and kept her in cloth diapers 85% of the time. I never fed her packaged anything. She was my ONE shot at growing a happy healthy child and I took that job very seriously (still do now that she's almost a teenager).
I have a college degree and marketable skills in a number of industries. But I had $17 and no immediate prospects. I applied for Food Stamps and received them.
Buying my whole foods, fruits and vegetables to feed my daughter was HUMILIATING. Why? Because everyone in line looked at what was in my cart - looking for reasons to look down on me. I had to start shopping in the middle of the night in crappy grocery stores in bad neighborhoods where my selections were greatly limited to avoid the glowering looks by those that thought they were better than me.
After 3 weeks I gave up my food stamps so that they wouldn't go unused. Thankfully it was only a few more slightly hungry weeks before I had enough work to make up for the budget shortfall.
People have a stereotype of "welfare cases" - and I can assure you that's NOT reality. Sure, you may have seen some *kitten* abuse the privilege but you probably didn't see the dozens of others of poor single mothers who were forced to shop in the middle of the night to avoid you looking down on them.
You are more amazing to me every single day.
Thank you, I have that effect.0 -
My problem is with those who are already privileged, yet still receive food stamps.
People get food stamps because their income/household size qualifies them. Sounds like you need to take your complaints to your congressman.0 -
You owe the OP an apology. You are most decidedly picking on her and even rubbed it in her face that she can't get assistance when she needs it, and your claim otherwise is laughable given these comments.
Thanks, girl, but I don't need an apology. She's a sociologist, so she's allowed to judge 'cause she has a degree & all0 -
I feel I need to share a story with you all...
When I left my ex husband I had a 2.5 year old, hadn't had a job in 3 years (home raising our child), and had $17 dollars in my bank account.
The people that know me here know that I eat well. I am a vegan and my daughter never once had a drop of formula, I made every ounce of her baby food myself and kept her in cloth diapers 85% of the time. I never fed her packaged anything. She was my ONE shot at growing a happy healthy child and I took that job very seriously (still do now that she's almost a teenager).
I have a college degree and marketable skills in a number of industries. But I had $17 and no immediate prospects. I applied for Food Stamps and received them.
Buying my whole foods, fruits and vegetables to feed my daughter was HUMILIATING. Why? Because everyone in line looked at what was in my cart - looking for reasons to look down on me. I had to start shopping in the middle of the night in crappy grocery stores in bad neighborhoods where my selections were greatly limited to avoid the glowering looks by those that thought they were better than me.
After 3 weeks I gave up my food stamps so that they wouldn't go unused. Thankfully it was only a few more slightly hungry weeks before I had enough work to make up for the budget shortfall.
People have a stereotype of "welfare cases" - and I can assure you that's NOT reality. Sure, you may have seen some *kitten* abuse the privilege but you probably didn't see the dozens of others of poor single mothers who were forced to shop in the middle of the night to avoid you looking down on them.
My dear, there is absolutely no shame in feeding your children and for doing what you need to do to take care of them. That is the mark of a very brave and wonderful mother. Like the OP, I have no problem with helping people like you in a time of need. I'm happy you were able to get the help you needed.0 -
'Thousands and thousands...' ? You don't know this for a fact, you're just tossing out words. What are your citations/sources for these facts?
How do you know you won't qualify for assistance? Go try.
Oh come on, don't deny it either. You think only a couple of people do this? Please.
& I did try. I don't qualify.
We figured it out people. She's totally hating that she can't get them! HAHAH.
Wow, that was really low class. Way to go making fun of someone working for a living who can't get help when she needs it. Applause to you. Bet you feel better now.
I do. Thanks love!
You owe the OP an apology. You are most decidedly picking on her and even rubbed it in her face that she can't get assistance when she needs it, and your claim otherwise is laughable given these comments.
You're right dude. I totally did admit that I was picking on her. So I'm sorry. :flowerforyou:0 -
You owe the OP an apology. You are most decidedly picking on her and even rubbed it in her face that she can't get assistance when she needs it, and your claim otherwise is laughable given these comments.
Thanks, girl, but I don't need an apology. She's a sociologist, so she's allowed to judge 'cause she has a degree & all
Coming from you? I think you owe all of us an apology for posting this in the first place.0 -
First off, I'm sorry to hear this. But when is it going to resognate that I DONT look down on people who are on food stamps?? If I could be on food stamps I would because I seriously am BARELY getting by! And honestly, it breaks my heart when I see families buying food with food stamps and feel that they need to hide or pay with their heads down low. I know that there are plenty of people who deserve them. I just don't understand how many times I have to repeat this. My problem is with those who are already privileged, yet still receive food stamps.
You don't know people's circumstances. Who are you to judge?
I traded bookkeeping for someone who paid my cell bill. I got a computer from another person to use who I kept books for. My parents let me drive their (20 year old) Porsche. My clothes were decent (mostly GAP) because my ex husband was a VP at Bear Stearns when we were married and that's what I left with.
If you looked at me you might think my life was pretty well off - but I was surviving and bartering and borrowing until I could get on my feet. I got down to 110 pounds because I did not have an abundance to eat.
You can't know a person's life by looking at them. You can't.0 -
You owe the OP an apology. You are most decidedly picking on her and even rubbed it in her face that she can't get assistance when she needs it, and your claim otherwise is laughable given these comments.
Thanks, girl, but I don't need an apology. She's a sociologist, so she's allowed to judge 'cause she has a degree & all
I'm not judging!! This is me speaking from a certain perspective. And I don't have the degree to make me an official sociologist yet, but I'm working on it.0 -
You owe the OP an apology. You are most decidedly picking on her and even rubbed it in her face that she can't get assistance when she needs it, and your claim otherwise is laughable given these comments.
Thanks, girl, but I don't need an apology. She's a sociologist, so she's allowed to judge 'cause she has a degree & all
I'm not judging!! This is me speaking from a certain perspective. And I don't have the degree to make me an official sociologist yet, but I'm working on it.0 -
I know that food stamps don't buy beer and cigarettes, but my point is if they have enough cash for beer and cigarettes, they shouldn't be getting food stamps. Those $50 they spent on booze & ciggys could go towards their food, instead.
lol.
Because that $50 would have bought all their groceries if only they had been buying healthier food, right?
Do poor people not deserve to ever have things like alcohol and cigarettes? Maybe they choose to buy those things instead of new clothes, or instead of one of the many things you probably take for granted like seeing a movie or getting a haircut or buying new shoes when yours are worn out.
Don't make assumptions about people, because the bottom line is you have NO idea what it's like to be poor. And being poor doesn't mean you're lazy. A TON of people are working minimum wage or are unemployed right now, even though they're trying their best. Odds are when you're poor enough to be on food stamps, all the comfort you GET is that junk food, alcohol, and cigarettes.0 -
You can't know a person's life by looking at them. You can't.
MrsC is one smart lady, the OP should take her advice.0 -
And to all of you who work hard for low wages that over qualify you for health care I sure hope you lobbied for Universal Healthcare. You're never too poor to be an activist.0
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Coming from you? I think you owe all of us an apology for posting this in the first place.
Not gonna happen. I will not apologize for an observation; I didn't generalize, so that doesn't deserve an apology. And I'm not judging people who truly need food stamps and use them to feed themselves and their families. So no, no apology.0 -
And to all of you who work hard for low wages that over qualify you for health care I sure hope you lobbied for Universal Healthcare. You're never too poor to be an activist.
You rock my socks!0 -
in my country the government pays you up to the poverty line, which is higher than yours. Min wage is higher, which is why we don't tip. Our health care system is free for anyone although those earning over a certain amount must pay tax if they don't have private cover. But our schools aren't all free we supply books and are encouraged to donate or give levies for maths and science classes ect. NO BODY is looked down on for being on government assistance and you can stay on it as a mother until your youngest child is 6 (aka in school) then you need to enter work or studying to still qualify for it.
I have studied a lot of countries in depth, because that is what I like to do, but most recourse just have a general on what the America public feels about things. The idea of being ashamed of receiving government assistance is so odd to me because where I like you need a pretty good family income not to get assistance. In fact it is just against what I live in my country in everyday life. You are on assistance while you need it and when you get off you pay taxes and pay it back. Most of our middle class would of been on it at some point. So yes the idea of having shame or being looked down on for government assistance is a very odd thing to me0
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