Females- Do you do this?
I listen to talk radio a lot when I drive and while scanning a station I happened on a conversation of nutritionist as a guest host on the show. Here's the statement that caught my attention.
"Women will do almost everything right when it comes to keeping their family safe, ensuring their family's health, and listening to doctor's advice on their own health, BUT completely IGNORE the dangers of any FAD DIET as long as they lose 5, 10, 20lbs in a short period of time."
So was she right or wrong?
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"Women will do almost everything right when it comes to keeping their family safe, ensuring their family's health, and listening to doctor's advice on their own health, BUT completely IGNORE the dangers of any FAD DIET as long as they lose 5, 10, 20lbs in a short period of time."
So was she right or wrong?
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Obviously anything that says that all women do a certain thing is going to be false. Do most women do this? I don't know. I doubt it's based on anything but her own experiences. Personally I've never done a fad diet.0
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I've seen a lot of girls, never guys, doing fasts on here. I personally, stay away from them. I like to do it the healthy way0
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No I don't do this.. but I have friends that do.
I have one friend that went on a diet that was something like she could only eat sirloin or high grades of beed, certain vegetables and fruits, certain grains and no alcohol. If I remember correctly there were different rounds to this diet, and she was on it for quite a bit. Not even sure how much weight she lost but I want to say it was 20 or 30 pounds in like 3 or 4 months.. and if she kept it off or not I don't know.
I personally feel fad diets are stupid... and if you can't commit to a healthier life style, then you should hold off trying to lose weight till you can. I knew in college that I couldn't lose weight because of my lifestyle.. and I wasn't ready to change. Now that I'm out of college though, it's a totally different story.0 -
I don't think the women on here are as likely to have done that as a more general collection of women.
But, no, I've never done a dangerous fad diet, although I did some dumb stuff when I was a teenager, nothing since I've been an adult. I did try South Beach for a while but that was recommended by a doctor and I wouldn't qualify it as "dangerous".0 -
I've seen a lot of girls, never guys, doing fasts on here. I personally, stay away from them. I like to do it the healthy way
Fasting is not always unhealthy, and I've actually seen more males fasting than females here.
To OP, I think that statement is way too generalized but it's probably true for many women. Most women? I don't know. All women? Def not.0 -
I've never gone on a diet.0
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I think it's just that women are more likely to believe in Fad diets; but all of us on here know that they are useless.0
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i have to put my hand up :blushing: and admit i went on celebrity slim for couple of months to shift weight fast as holiday was coming up.
would never do it again though as i now know i'm stronger than i thought i was and can just eat sensible amounts and still loose it without worrying about carbs etc0 -
I've seen a lot of girls, never guys, doing fasts on here. I personally, stay away from them. I like to do it the healthy way
Guys do it to, they are just more secretive about it.
Although I know quite a few guys into steroids but I don't know personally any women who use them unless its used to treat a condition. I know there are women who use them but I think it would be safe to say more men than women use Steroids. I know they don't help you lose weight but as for "unsafe practices" its more of what some males would do.0 -
Unforunately, I think the host was right. Of course, it's not ALL women. Most of the girls here and the ladies that have replied to this thread have their heads on straight. But a lot of my friends, family members, and coworkers have made me scratch my head. If you're going to go on some juice fast or liquid diet and promise to "eat healthy afterwards" to keep the weight off,why not just start now and get used to those healthy changes? If you're planning on keeping the weight off for life, then who cares if it takes a couple extra months to lose the pounds? It's really puzzling to me.0
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Yep it's true Women in general are weight obcessed especially here in the states. I see so many women that are skinny but still constantly dieting .. even when we loose wieght we are not satisfied..we are still trying for that next 10lbs. We are sent the message early in life as little girls that thin =equals beautiful by family, friends, tv, movies, magazines even toys tell us if we want to be accepted and liked we must be that perfect size 2 - Barbie anyone? etc /..it's everywhere .. We have gotten the idea that we must do anything to achieve the perfect body , so we do.. That was me for a long time.. but not anymore.I want to loose weight but my goal is no longer a 5 but whatever size I feel fit and healthy at.0
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For the person who mentioned fasting ... that is not a fad diet, nor is it dangerous unless you have certain medical conditions like diabetes or hypoglycemia. There are many people, male and female, on this site who fast as part of their diet and fitness routine. I am one of them (twice a week for 24 hours). Starving yourself is not the same thing as fasting.
As for the crazy "drink this really ridiculous concoction for 7 days and lose 20 lbs" nonsense, yeah, there are a lot of women who will do (or attempt to do) stuff like that because they are looking for a quick fix. I think most of them understand that they can't use methods like that over a long period of time, but those people generally don't intend to diet for a long period of time. I find that they typically believe they can lose weight by systematically starving themselves and then go right back to eating the way they always did, as though crap food only makes you fat if you're already fat.0 -
I listen to talk radio a lot when I drive and while scanning a station I happened on a conversation of nutritionist as a guest host on the show. Here's the statement that caught my attention.
"Women will do almost everything right when it comes to keeping their family safe, ensuring their family's health, and listening to doctor's advice on their own health, BUT completely IGNORE the dangers of any FAD DIET as long as they lose 5, 10, 20lbs in a short period of time."
So was she right or wrong?
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For me: no, I don't really fad diet, but I've tried twice. I've never stuck to a fad diet or weightloss program, I'd get a week into it and realize the rediculousness of it. For example I bought hydroxicut, used it for a week as recommended, read the label part where it said "in conjunction with a diet and exercise program" and thought, "well duh, anything will work in conjuction with eating correctly and exercising" and used it as a paper wieght in my kitchen until I bought a giant bottle of advil to take it's place. Adkins, did it for 6 weeks before I got married, realized I was eating about 900 calories a day trying to eat just fats and proteins and stopped. I've been ana, never want to go back there again. When I had my son 2 years ago I realized that even more than "getting my weight under control" I had other priorities. First it was lactation, after he weaned it became trying to teach him a healthy relationship with food, exercise, and his body. I now live by example and not by desperation.
Women in general: I think they're simply more likely to talk about it, complain about it, and admit to it than men, but men are just as likely to actually do it. Women are just more likely to be vocal about it. I think that these fads, pills, etc are promoting a quick and easy way out in a world where most things come quick and easy (shopping, food, blah blah blah), they also give the user a scape goat when their "plan" doesn't work out, which of course is also very appealing.0 -
No I don't do this.. but I have friends that do.
I have one friend that went on a diet that was something like she could only eat sirloin or high grades of beed, certain vegetables and fruits, certain grains and no alcohol. If I remember correctly there were different rounds to this diet, and she was on it for quite a bit. Not even sure how much weight she lost but I want to say it was 20 or 30 pounds in like 3 or 4 months.. and if she kept it off or not I don't know.
I personally feel fad diets are stupid... and if you can't commit to a healthier life style, then you should hold off trying to lose weight till you can. I knew in college that I couldn't lose weight because of my lifestyle.. and I wasn't ready to change. Now that I'm out of college though, it's a totally different story.
Was it the South Beach diet? I did that, still kind of am doing it actually, but once you get out of the first phase it's pretty easy. It is pretty much just teaching your body to eat right. You start out by only eating meats and veggies and then 2 weeks later gradually add in fruits and grains. I don't follow their guide, day by day but I know what foods to avoid, and I avoid them. The first time I did this, I just did phase one for 3 weeks, and lost 20lbs, right after having my son. I kept it up easily. Then last month I started again, and I've lost 16lbs total since I have started it. (3lbs since being on this site), so now I just kind of follow that guideline, I don't really have to even think about it much anymore, and log my food and exercise in here, so that I'm not over eating. This system seems to work for me.
As for fad diets, I've tried them..*most* everyone has at one point. The most ridiculous one I did was the 3 day diet, where you eat hardly anything and what you do eat isn't even good for you (ex:a hotdog), but sure enough..I lost 5lbs and then 2 days later, I gained it back..lol.0 -
I listen to talk radio a lot when I drive and while scanning a station I happened on a conversation of nutritionist as a guest host on the show. Here's the statement that caught my attention.
"Women will do almost everything right when it comes to keeping their family safe, ensuring their family's health, and listening to doctor's advice on their own health, BUT completely IGNORE the dangers of any FAD DIET as long as they lose 5, 10, 20lbs in a short period of time."
So was she right or wrong?
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Disagree. Many women have probably tried a fad diet at some point, but I don't like the generalization that ALL women ignore the dangers.0
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I don't get why this is labeled as a woman thing, as if men aren't desparate to lose weigh as well sometimes. I've always hated things like this that assume things about everyone based on what some people do... it's like saying the average person eats 11.7 lbs of baby bunnies a day so you probably had one for breakfast.
Edit to add: I never even thought about fad diets and went straight to "eat 500 calories less, healthier food, and exercise".0 -
I've done fad diets in the pass and loss up to 20-25lbs; but obviously I didn't keep it off... Which is why I'm on here now.. I want to lose weight the healthy and right way... I will admit that at times I do get discouraged and want to go back to my old ways, but I push forward with trying to do it the right way....0
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Pretty accurate Id say. I cant even tell you how many fad diets, pills and gadgets Ive tried over the years. I KNEW they were too good to be true but "what if!" always got the better of me. Men do it too though.0
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"Women will do almost everything right when it comes to keeping their family safe, ensuring their family's health, and listening to doctor's advice on their own health, BUT completely IGNORE the dangers of any FAD DIET as long as they lose 5, 10, 20lbs in a short period of time."
i take her use of the word 'women' to mean "in general", and not "all".
and yes, i can see how its true --for the most part--.
maybe this is not true for the mfp community, because anyone who is here obviously has a high priority for their own health. however, in the general population, im fairly confident that you would find scads of ladies skipping meals, eating junk, smoking, popping diet pills, and not exercising. you would find lots of ladies relying on cleanses and fasts to drop weight for special events. etc, etc.
especially working ladies or moms who work outside the home, and moms who stay home. moms[in general] are notorious for having a martyr mentality [raises hand] and put themselves last on a regular basis. nutrition and exercise go by the way side so kids can get to practice, laundry gets done, etc. fad diets promise a lot and are alluring. its a temptation.0 -
I listen to talk radio a lot when I drive and while scanning a station I happened on a conversation of nutritionist as a guest host on the show. Here's the statement that caught my attention.
"Women will do almost everything right when it comes to keeping their family safe, ensuring their family's health, and listening to doctor's advice on their own health, BUT completely IGNORE the dangers of any FAD DIET as long as they lose 5, 10, 20lbs in a short period of time."
So was she right or wrong?
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Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I think that sounds true. We would do anything and everything for the family. But with us, we do put ourselves in second place. The things we want we try to do we want it done fast and in a simple because we dont give ourselves the time we need to do it right.0 -
I don't get why this is labeled as a woman thing, as if men aren't desparate to lose weigh as well sometimes. I've always hated things like this that assume things about everyone based on what some people do... it's like saying the average person eats 11.7 lbs of baby bunnies a day so you probably had one for breakfast.
Edit to add: I never even thought about fad diets and went straight to "eat 500 calories less, healthier food, and exercise".
I don't think it's just a woman thing, but I'm assuming the topic they were discussing was specifically about women.
I agree that men are often "desperate" to lose weight. But most of the men I know who start trying to lose weight start by going to the gym. Most women I know start immediately with cutting their daily caloric intake pretty severely.0 -
In my case wrong. If you've always been active you'll know fad from fact. However, I know I'm an exception as everyone around me at work always does the fads. Drink this potion, take these pills, don't eat any carbs, etc, etc.
What I SEE the most around me at work is STARVATION and BINGING. The starvers and bingers are the ones that when presented with a "quick fix" idea or fad, they jump on it. They'll magically lose a few pounds and regain them sooner than they lost them.
I'm all for supplementation, but only accompanied with conistent exercise and nutrition (FOOD). And if I ever want a quick fix, it will be a tummy tuck or laser surgery. There's no shame in that.0 -
Nope, it took me three months to lose 12 pounds. From what I can tell from the forum threads though, many many women would have been frustrated if they didn't lose that much in ONE month.
I like eating.0 -
I think fasting is a terrible idea. You teach your body and metabolism to be stingy and hold on to fat that way. Body builders eat numerous small meals throughout the day to keep their metabolism going - even when they are in the weight cutting phase. They have the right idea.0
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I think fasting is a terrible idea. You teach your body and metabolism to be stingy and hold on to fat that way. Body builders eat numerous small meals throughout the day to keep their metabolism going - even when they are in the weight cutting phase. They have the right idea.
I don't fast, it's not my thing, but I don't think that all fasting is "a terrible idea." Like anything else there are extreemists that I think take it a smidge too far. Fasting is a part of some peoples lifestyle, sometimes based on religion, sometimes not. Not eating every 2 hours or so gives me headaches, but that's me. Like all other lifestyle decisions, it's about doing it correctly.0 -
I think there are many - NOT ALL, NOT MOST - people - NOT JUST WOMEN- who are desperate for health and weight loss, but are not willing to put in the time & effort that we all know is required. The bigger issue that they were discussing is not simply the dieting, but putting the families first and caring more for them than they do their own health. I see this a lot.0
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No I don't do this.. but I have friends that do.
I have one friend that went on a diet that was something like she could only eat sirloin or high grades of beed, certain vegetables and fruits, certain grains and no alcohol. If I remember correctly there were different rounds to this diet, and she was on it for quite a bit. Not even sure how much weight she lost but I want to say it was 20 or 30 pounds in like 3 or 4 months.. and if she kept it off or not I don't know.
I personally feel fad diets are stupid... and if you can't commit to a healthier life style, then you should hold off trying to lose weight till you can. I knew in college that I couldn't lose weight because of my lifestyle.. and I wasn't ready to change. Now that I'm out of college though, it's a totally different story.
As for fad diets, I've tried them..*most* everyone has at one point. The most ridiculous one I did was the 3 day diet, where you eat hardly anything and what you do eat isn't even good for you (ex:a hotdog), but sure enough..I lost 5lbs and then 2 days later, I gained it back..lol.
No it wasn't south beach.
I don't even know what the name was, but all I know was that it sounded a bit kooky at the time.. and it still does from what I remember.0 -
I haven't done any fad diets myself, but know plenty of women who have. One of the girls I work with tired a very low carb diet, then she tried the powder that you have to sprinkle on all your food, then some expensive local meal plan where they supply all your food. She'd lose 20 to 30 pounds each time, but quickly give up because they were so restrictive.
Mind you, I've seen men do the same thing. My office mate has tried lots of different eating plans, not so much to lose weight, but to be healthier and more fit. Currently he's following a Paleo plan and seems quite happy with it. He's definitely stuck with it much longer than any previous plan. (He tried one where you stop eating at a certain time each day, one where he ate only frozen meals for lunch and dinner, briefly became a vegetarian, has tried various supplements, etc.)0 -
The whole statement is bologna in my opinion.
It all comes down to the individual.0
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