Diet Sodas

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  • unmitigatedbadassery
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    Is it bad to drink alot or diet coke, coke zero, pepsi max.. etc? I feel that i crave the carbonation and its the only substitute i like besides pop. I'm trying to drink more water though.

    Diet sodas are of the Devil. There is so much more to health than calories.
  • 0SimplymeStacyLea0
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    O god!!!

    No, You will not die, get fat, become lazy, eat more, or give birth to aliens from drinking it. This is a lose/lose questions around here. If you crave it, it is WAY better than the regular. Or treat yourself to one regular soda a week.



    someone has some GREAT common sense :flowerforyou:
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    Personally I think it is bad, I use to drink diet pop all the time until I realized its not good because of the aspartame. Aspartame is what's used to sweeten it and its not good for you. I love drinking water, add a slice of lime and lemon to it or even cucumber, it tastes great.

    Pop in general is bad for you.


    Read this and you'll understand: http://aspartame.mercola.com/


    This is from cancer.orgWhat is aspartame?
    Aspartame is one of the most common artificial sweeteners in use today. It is sold under the brand names NutraSweet® and Equal®. Aspartame is composed mainly of 2 amino acids, aspartic acid and phenylalanine. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins and are found naturally in many foods.

    Aspartame is used in many foods and beverages because it is about 200 times sweeter than sugar, so much less of it can be used to give the same level of sweetness. This, in turn, lowers the calories in the food or beverage.

    Rumors claiming that aspartame causes a number of health problems, including cancer, have been around for many years. Many of these continue to circulate on the Internet.

    How are people exposed to aspartame?
    Aspartame has been used in the United States since the early 1980s. It is now found in thousands of different food products. Aspartame is commonly used as a tabletop sweetener, as a sweetener in prepared foods and beverages, and in recipes that do not require too much heating (since heat breaks down aspartame).

    How is aspartame regulated?
    In the United States, artificial sweeteners such as aspartame are regulated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). These products must be tested for safety and approved by the FDA before they can be used. The FDA also sets an acceptable daily intake (ADI) for each sweetener, which is the maximum amount considered safe to consume each day during a person's lifetime. The ADI is set to be about 100 times less than the smallest amount that might cause health concerns, based on studies done in lab animals.

    The FDA has set the ADI for aspartame at 50 milligrams per kilogram (mg/kg) of body weight. (In the European Union, the European Food Safety Authority has recommended a slightly lower ADI for aspartame, at 40 mg/kg.)

    To put the ADI for aspartame in perspective, this would be 3,750 milligrams per day for a typical adult weighing 75 kilograms (about 165 pounds), far more than most adults take in daily. A can of diet soda usually contains about 180 milligrams of aspartame, so a typical adult would have to drink about 21 cans of diet soda a day to go over the recommended level.

    Does aspartame cause cancer?
    Researchers use 2 main types of studies to try to determine if a substance or exposure causes cancer. (A substance that causes cancer or helps cancer grow is called a carcinogen.)

    In studies done in the lab, animals are exposed to a substance (often in very large doses) to see if it causes tumors or other health problems. It's not always clear if the results from these types of studies will apply to humans, but lab studies are the best way to find out if a substance has the potential to cause cancer in humans before widespread exposure occurs.

    Another type of study looks at cancer rates in different groups of people. Such a study might compare the cancer rate in a group exposed to a substance versus the rate in a group not exposed to it, or compare it to what the expected cancer rate would be in the general population. But studies in people can sometimes be hard to interpret, because there may be other factors affecting the results that are hard to account for.

    In most cases neither type of study provides definitive evidence on its own, so researchers usually look at both lab-based and human studies if they are available.

    Studies done in the lab
    Many studies have looked for health effects in lab animals fed aspartame, often in doses higher than 4,000 mg/kg per day over their lifetimes. These studies have not found any health problems that are consistently linked with aspartame.

    Two studies published by a group of Italian researchers suggested that very high doses of aspartame might increase the risk of some blood-related cancers (leukemias and lymphomas) in rats. However, both the FDA and the EFSA have called these results into question, citing a lack of some important data in the published studies and other concerns.

    Studies in people
    Most studies in people have not found that aspartame use is linked to an increased risk of cancer.

    One early study suggested that an increased rate of brain tumors in the US during the 1980s might have been related to aspartame use. However, according to the National Cancer Institute (NCI), the increase in brain tumor rates actually began back in the early 1970s, well before aspartame was in use. And most of the increase was seen in people age 70 and older, a group that was not exposed to the highest doses of aspartame, which might also make this link less likely. Other studies have not found an increase in brain tumors related to aspartame use.

    In the largest study of this issue, researchers from the NCI looked at cancer rates in more than 500,000 older adults. The study found that, compared to people who did not drink aspartame-containing beverages, those who did drink them did not have an increased risk of lymphomas, leukemias, or brain tumors.

    What expert agencies say
    Expert agencies in the United States and elsewhere that have evaluated aspartame have found it safe for use.

    The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulates the use of aspartame and other artificial sweeteners in the United States. In 2007, the FDA stated:

    Considering results from the large number of studies on aspartame's safety, including five previously conducted negative chronic carcinogenicity studies, a recently reported large epidemiology study with negative associations between the use of aspartame and the occurrence of tumors, and negative findings from a series of three transgenic mouse assays, FDA finds no reason to alter its previous conclusion that aspartame is safe as a general purpose sweetener in food.

    The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) assesses the safety of sweeteners such as aspartame in the European Union. According to a 2009 report from its Panel on Food Additives and Nutrient Sources Added to Food:

    Overall, the Panel concluded, on the basis of all the evidence currently available… that there is no indication of any genotoxic or carcinogenic potential of aspartame and that there is no reason to revise the previously established ADI for aspartame of 40 mg/kg [body weight].

    Though research into a possible link between aspartame and cancer continues, these agencies agree that studies done so far have not found such a link.

    Does aspartame cause any other health problems?
    Complaints of various health issues have circulated since aspartame first appeared on the market in the 1980s. But for most people, no health problems have clearly been linked to aspartame use.

    Phenylketonuria (PKU)
    Phenylketonuria is a rare genetic disorder (present at birth) in which the body can't break down phenylalanine, an amino acid found in many foods. Levels of phenylalanine can build up in the blood, which prevents other important chemicals from getting to the brain. Unless phenylalanine intake is severely limited, children with PKU suffer from abnormal brain development.

    PKU is usually detected in babies by a routine blood test shortly after birth. People with PKU need to follow a phenylalanine-restricted diet. This is especially important in children, whose brains are still developing.

    Because phenylalanine is a component of aspartame, it's important that people with PKU limit their intake of aspartame-containing foods and drinks.

    Other health complaints
    Claims have been made that aspartame is related to health effects ranging from mild problems such as headache, dizziness, digestive symptoms, and changes in mood, to more serious health issues such as Alzheimer disease, birth defects, diabetes, Gulf War syndrome, attention deficit disorders, Parkinson disease, lupus, multiple sclerosis, and seizures. However, studies done to date have not found any consistent evidence of harm. Research into the safety of aspartame continues.

    Should I limit my exposure to aspartame?
    Aside from the possible effects in people with phenylketonuria, there are no health problems that have been consistently linked to aspartame use. Research on artificial sweeteners, including aspartame, continues today.

    For people who want to avoid aspartame, the easiest way to do this is to check the labels before buying or eating foods or drinks. If aspartame is in the product it will be listed in the ingredients. NutraSweet® and Equal® are brand names for aspartame, so these can be avoided as well.

    Other artificial sweeteners on the market include sucralose (Splenda®), acesulfame K (Sweet One®, Sunett®), and saccharin (Sweet'N Low®, SugarTwin®), but some of the same types of health concerns have been raised about these products as well
  • momof8munchkins
    momof8munchkins Posts: 1,167 Member
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    i drink carbonated water when i crave something fizzy.
    this. with some lemon juice for flavor
  • toniRAD
    toniRAD Posts: 196 Member
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    Yes it's bad. Aspartame is one of the main reasons. Whenever I want something besides water, I buy Izze. It's sparkling water with fruit concentrates. No added anything. It's really good, you should try it out. :)
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
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    Artificial sweeteners are horrible for the human body. Google it and you'll find tons of articles and studies that prove there are dangerous, toxic chemicals in diet sodas.

    If you absolutely need something carbonated you should try flavored sparkling water or sparkling juices.
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    and yeah diet soda makes you fat really i just imagined losing 60 pounds
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    Artificial sweeteners are horrible for the human body. Google it and you'll find tons of articles and studies that prove there are dangerous, toxic chemicals in diet sodas.

    If you absolutely need something carbonated you should try flavored sparkling water or sparkling juices.

    Really they dont prove anything,their are just as many studies to back that up as well
  • courtneywebb
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    The artificial sweeteners (aspartame) in diet sodas actually make you CRAVE sugar, and they convert fat into hydrogenated fat, which is 10 times harder to burn... not to mention they are a class"A" carcinogen, meaning they cause cancer. No bueno.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
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    Depends on your definition of a lot. If you are drinking 10-20 a day, that is probably too much. There are a lot of chemicals in regular and diet soda that are not naturally food items. Will they kill you, probably not, but I don't know. I drink soda, regular and diet depending on the situation, but I limit it to a few a week. You have to decide if it is bad for you. Do you get unexplained headaches, tummy aches, heartburn, etc? Then cutting back or eliminating soda could make you feel much better.
  • kbear0325
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    THANK YOU EVERYBODY! definitely staying away from that and switching to sparkling water.. etc.
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    The artificial sweeteners (aspartame) in diet sodas actually make you CRAVE sugar, and they convert fat into hydrogenated fat, which is 10 times harder to burn... not to mention they are a class"A" carcinogen, meaning they cause cancer. No bueno.

    That has never been proven:laugh:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,669 Member
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    Diet soda is just as bad for you as regular soda, just in different ways. If it's just the carbonation you crave, try drinking carbonated water!
    How so? Where are the dead bodies?
  • SergeantSunshine_reused
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    I have never figured out this debate. I get yelled at by some friends (defriended) if i drink diet soda.
    BUT if I have a night out and get wasted, eat BK and have fun, then everyone says it looked like a good time LOL xD
  • alcon79
    alcon79 Posts: 193 Member
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    I have 1 Diet Coke or Coke Zero every afternoon and oh no! I use Equal in my coffee, which I also drink 2 cups of every morning. Clearly I should be dead by now....maybe I am dead but I"m trapped in the American Horror Story Diet Coke universe.....
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    I have 1 Diet Coke or Coke Zero every afternoon and oh no! I use Equal in my coffee, which I also drink 2 cups of every morning. Clearly I should be dead by now....maybe I am dead but I"m trapped in the American Horror Story Diet Coke universe.....

    watch out for the rubber man
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    O god!!!

    No, You will not die, get fat, become lazy, eat more, or give birth to aliens from drinking it. This is a lose/lose questions around here. If you crave it, it is WAY better than the regular. Or treat yourself to one regular soda a week.

    I'm more concerned about the phosphorus acid being a calicum depleter. I'm an early 40s male. While I'm not that too concerned about it, bone density is one (of many) reasons I weight lift. I don't really need something that is contrary to that.

    Yeah, I still drink a cup(or two) of coffee but I don't to add to the lack of calicum absorbtion if I can help it.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,669 Member
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    Artificial sweeteners are horrible for the human body. Google it and you'll find tons of articles and studies that prove there are dangerous, toxic chemicals in diet sodas.

    If you absolutely need something carbonated you should try flavored sparkling water or sparkling juices.
    Any biased person can write a story or article. Peer reviewed clinical study is what you should be looking at. And there isn't one that shows that CURRENT amounts of artificial sweetners are any more dangerous than eating a hamburger.