this article is why I don't exercise!

bett_boop
bett_boop Posts: 89 Member
edited October 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/sep/19/exercise-dieting-public-health

this has totally confused me... however whenever I exercise, i admit i DO feel like eating a lot more than I have burnt off; so maybe they have a point? :-(
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  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    To lose weight you need to create a calorie deficit. This can be done with out exercise but.....if you are interested in your overall health and well being and maintaining that weight loss exercise is the way to go. Just as I don't want to be fat and unfit..I don't want to be skinny and unfit. Are bodies are meant for motion, not to be sedentary.
  • Mindful_Trent
    Mindful_Trent Posts: 3,954 Member
    Articles/studies like this drive me crazy. It's focused solely on exercise and weight loss, and not on exercise and health.

    No, exercise is NOT necessary for weight loss, and some people struggle with weight loss when they exercise. But exercise isn't the problem - it's people's actions that are the problem. Many people struggle because they use exercise as an excuse to eat more than they should - they overestimate how much they've burned and underestimate what they eat.

    That said, exercise is CRITICAL for good health. Do you want strong bones? A healthy cardiorespiratory system? Do you want to help yourself sleep better? Have more energy? These are the reasons why I exercise - not to lose weight, but to treat my body the way it deserves to be treated.

    Edited to add: It may take an adjustment period to get used to eating an appropriate calorie level when exercising so that you do keep losing weight - but it's possible, certainly if you're eating healthy foods that are more filling and have fewer "empty" calories. You just have to train your body to expect reasonable sized meals and make sure you divide up your calories over the day in the way that works best to keep you full.
  • koosdel
    koosdel Posts: 3,317 Member
    Good for you.
  • asyouseefit
    asyouseefit Posts: 1,265 Member
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/sep/19/exercise-dieting-public-health

    this has totally confused me... however whenever I exercise, i admit i DO feel like eating a lot more than I have burnt off; so maybe they have a point? :-(

    Of course, you feel like eating more when exercising. It's like using your car for a long trip... Your car will need more fuel. So does your body when you work out.
  • Janice032557
    Janice032557 Posts: 163 Member
    accountant_boi Bravo
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    Like already mentioned...

    weight loss =/= being healthy

    In fact, active overweight people live longer than thin inactive people. You choose.

    Writer is just making excuses for being lazy.

    Edited for sources:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10593541
    http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1999/11001/Effects_of_physical_inactivity_and_obesity_on.25.aspx
    http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/28/6/1073.short
  • RunHardBeStrong
    RunHardBeStrong Posts: 33,069 Member
    Like already mentioned...

    weight loss =/= being healthy

    In fact, active overweight people live longer than thin inactive people. You choose.

    Writer is just making excuses for being lazy.

    Completely agreed. I will admit I started this for weight loss but now I'm in love with being healthier, fitter and stronger not just smaller.
  • Mallory0418
    Mallory0418 Posts: 723 Member
    Hmmm...not quite. Keep researching, knowledge is power! :flowerforyou:
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    I think the point they're aiming at is what I was trying to convince a mate of mine when he was getting kicked out of the RAF for being unfit. The RAF's approach is compulsory PT, but no matter how much the PTIs beasted him, even if they got 2000cals out of him, the junk he was eating would totally negate it.
    He started suffering from over training (lack of nutrition I thought). A visit to the doc had him on Orlistat.

    I think he got kicked out... I'd lost contact.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    This is why I do exercise:

    Health:

    Increases HDL - High Density Lipoprotein (good cholesterol) and decrease LDL - Low Density Lipoprotein (bad cholesterol).
    Reduces risk of diabetes and insulin needs.
    Lowers risk of cardiovascular disease.
    Lower high blood pressure.
    Lowers risk of breast cancer - reduces high estrogen levels linked to the disease.
    Decreases or minimizes risk of osteoporosis by building bone mass.
    Reduces symptoms of PMS (Premenstrual Syndrome)
    Reduces stress and anxiety.
    Decreases colds and illness.

    Strength:

    Increased muscle strength, power, endurance and size. Enhanced performance of everyday tasks. You will be able to do everyday tasks like lifting, carrying and walking up stairs with greater ease.

    Flexibility:

    By working the muscles through a full range of motion, weight training can improve your overall body flexibility. Increased flexibility reduces the risk of muscle pulls and back pain.

    Likelihood Of Injury:

    Strong muscles, tendons and ligaments are less likely to give way under stress and are less likely to be injured. Increased bone density and strength reduces back and knee pain by building muscle around these areas.

    Body Composition:

    Boosted metabolism (which means burning more calories when at rest). Reduced body fat. Your overall weight may not change, but you will gain muscle and lose fat. Over time you should notice decreases in waist measurements and bodyfat measurement.

    Muscle Tone:

    The conditioning effect will result in firmer and better-defined muscles.

    Posture:

    The way you sit and stand are influenced by the health of a network of neck, shoulder, back, hip and abdominal muscles. Stronger muscles can help you stand and sit straighter and more comfortably. Improved balance and stability.

    State Of Mind:

    As you begin to notice the positive physical changes in your body and develop a regular exercise routine your ability to handle stress effectively will improve. Weight training allows you to sleep better, i.e. fall asleep quicker and sleep deeper. Clinical studies have shown regular exercise to be one of the three best tools for effective stress management.

    Now, hold on a sec while I find a list of benefits for cardiovascular exercise. That was just for resistance training...
  • koosdel
    koosdel Posts: 3,317 Member
    This is why I do exercise:

    Health:

    Increases HDL - High Density Lipoprotein (good cholesterol) and decrease LDL - Low Density Lipoprotein (bad cholesterol).
    Reduces risk of diabetes and insulin needs.
    Lowers risk of cardiovascular disease.
    Lower high blood pressure.
    Lowers risk of breast cancer - reduces high estrogen levels linked to the disease.
    Decreases or minimizes risk of osteoporosis by building bone mass.
    Reduces symptoms of PMS (Premenstrual Syndrome)
    Reduces stress and anxiety.
    Decreases colds and illness.

    Strength:

    Increased muscle strength, power, endurance and size. Enhanced performance of everyday tasks. You will be able to do everyday tasks like lifting, carrying and walking up stairs with greater ease.

    Flexibility:

    By working the muscles through a full range of motion, weight training can improve your overall body flexibility. Increased flexibility reduces the risk of muscle pulls and back pain.

    Likelihood Of Injury:

    Strong muscles, tendons and ligaments are less likely to give way under stress and are less likely to be injured. Increased bone density and strength reduces back and knee pain by building muscle around these areas.

    Body Composition:

    Boosted metabolism (which means burning more calories when at rest). Reduced body fat. Your overall weight may not change, but you will gain muscle and lose fat. Over time you should notice decreases in waist measurements and bodyfat measurement.

    Muscle Tone:

    The conditioning effect will result in firmer and better-defined muscles.

    Posture:

    The way you sit and stand are influenced by the health of a network of neck, shoulder, back, hip and abdominal muscles. Stronger muscles can help you stand and sit straighter and more comfortably. Improved balance and stability.

    State Of Mind:

    As you begin to notice the positive physical changes in your body and develop a regular exercise routine your ability to handle stress effectively will improve. Weight training allows you to sleep better, i.e. fall asleep quicker and sleep deeper. Clinical studies have shown regular exercise to be one of the three best tools for effective stress management.

    Now, hold on a sec while I find a list of benefits for cardiovascular exercise. That was just for resistance training...

    That's crazy talk!! All that stuff requires effort, who wants to do that??
  • bett_boop
    bett_boop Posts: 89 Member
    I agree, this article does focus too much on the 'getting thin part' I DO really want to be healthy as well.

    I personally find exercise very difficult, and I find myself saying to myself 'its far easier to stay inside and just eat less'
    wrong I know... The main issue i have (which re-reading my original post i realise i probably didn't explain properly) is that I'll do, say, an hour of tennis, and I will feel like eating a loaf of bread - when in actual fact I have only 'earned' one slice, so I will end up grouchy and hungry. I think I'm doing something wrong...
  • Silvergamma
    Silvergamma Posts: 102 Member
    I will counter that article with this crossfit blog:

    http://www.crossfitsouthbay.com/2011/05/skinny-fat/

    I'm going to keep working out, thank you very much.
  • Mindful_Trent
    Mindful_Trent Posts: 3,954 Member
    I agree, this article does focus too much on the 'getting thin part' I DO really want to be healthy as well.

    I personally find exercise very difficult, and I find myself saying to myself 'its far easier to stay inside and just eat less'
    wrong I know... The main issue i have (which re-reading my original post i realise i probably didn't explain properly) is that I'll do, say, an hour of tennis, and I will feel like eating a loaf of bread - when in actual fact I have only 'earned' one slice, so I will end up grouchy and hungry. I think I'm doing something wrong...

    I find that it helps me control my hunger when I eat 45-60 min before a workout and also 30-60 minutes after my workout. Healthy carbs, some protein and healthy fat. Eating just bread would leave me hungry too!! I need more substance than that - thus the protein and fat in addition to the carbs. Often, I'll have dinner, then go workout, and then eat a 150-200 cal post-workout snack.

    Experiment with what you eat and the timing, and I'm willing to bet that eventually you'll find out what works for you.
  • bett_boop
    bett_boop Posts: 89 Member
    I will counter that article with this crossfit blog:

    http://www.crossfitsouthbay.com/2011/05/skinny-fat/

    I'm going to keep working out, thank you very much.

    thankyou for posting this- Finally somewhere that explains 'skinny fat' people costantly tell me I'm thin- they don't understand that under my clothes is a very different story!
    I don't want to look overly muscular, i think I'll need to work out a training regime that is good for me.
  • shakybabe
    shakybabe Posts: 1,578 Member
    I can't see how I could have lost inches with exercises? I've lost over one and half stone.. most of it from around my middle and I don't have loose flabby skin as I've been exercising throughout.

    When you see people on telly who lost loads of weight quickly through extreme diets, they are often on TV programs trying to get free surgery to remove all the excess skin.

    Also long before I was exercising to lose weight specifically I was doing it for physio exercises to strengthen back and legs...even though in early days I couldn't move enough to burn off loads of calories... but I'd have never built up to the point that I could do some cardio without the physio first.

    Exercise is good for you!
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    If this was the same article I was reading the other day (my internet was very slow and can't open the link), I think it bears some truth in it. Exercise is not a MUST for weight loss; if any it sometimes makes the weight loss harder. We burn far less than we are told but we can easily eat far more than we burned. :) The result? of course we will put on weight even we work out like robot.

    Often after a workout, I feel I am so in right of treating myself with something tasty and loaded with calories, like a muffin. Did I burn the calories of a muffin? probably not. Also when I go to workout, I feel I don't want to move more often, such as climb stairs or walk about because? I just worked out, didn't I?

    Of course, as some other posters said exercise is for overall benefit of one. But for some people who have less self control, taking exercise out of equation probably works out better for weight loss purpose. That's just my understanding. Please don't beat me. :flowerforyou:
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    I will counter that article with this crossfit blog:

    http://www.crossfitsouthbay.com/2011/05/skinny-fat/

    I'm going to keep working out, thank you very much.

    thankyou for posting this- Finally somewhere that explains 'skinny fat' people costantly tell me I'm thin- they don't understand that under my clothes is a very different story!
    I don't want to look overly muscular, i think I'll need to work out a training regime that is good for me.

    If current weight loss + exercise confused you, why not doing one first to see the result and then add exerise back and build a stronger buddy? This might make things easier for you. :) Best of luck!
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    This is why I do exercise:

    Health:

    Increases HDL - High Density Lipoprotein (good cholesterol) and decrease LDL - Low Density Lipoprotein (bad cholesterol).
    Reduces risk of diabetes and insulin needs.
    Lowers risk of cardiovascular disease.
    Lower high blood pressure.
    Lowers risk of breast cancer - reduces high estrogen levels linked to the disease.
    Decreases or minimizes risk of osteoporosis by building bone mass.
    Reduces symptoms of PMS (Premenstrual Syndrome)
    Reduces stress and anxiety.
    Decreases colds and illness.

    Strength:

    Increased muscle strength, power, endurance and size. Enhanced performance of everyday tasks. You will be able to do everyday tasks like lifting, carrying and walking up stairs with greater ease.

    Flexibility:

    By working the muscles through a full range of motion, weight training can improve your overall body flexibility. Increased flexibility reduces the risk of muscle pulls and back pain.

    Likelihood Of Injury:

    Strong muscles, tendons and ligaments are less likely to give way under stress and are less likely to be injured. Increased bone density and strength reduces back and knee pain by building muscle around these areas.

    Body Composition:

    Boosted metabolism (which means burning more calories when at rest). Reduced body fat. Your overall weight may not change, but you will gain muscle and lose fat. Over time you should notice decreases in waist measurements and bodyfat measurement.

    Muscle Tone:

    The conditioning effect will result in firmer and better-defined muscles.

    Posture:

    The way you sit and stand are influenced by the health of a network of neck, shoulder, back, hip and abdominal muscles. Stronger muscles can help you stand and sit straighter and more comfortably. Improved balance and stability.

    State Of Mind:

    As you begin to notice the positive physical changes in your body and develop a regular exercise routine your ability to handle stress effectively will improve. Weight training allows you to sleep better, i.e. fall asleep quicker and sleep deeper. Clinical studies have shown regular exercise to be one of the three best tools for effective stress management.

    Now, hold on a sec while I find a list of benefits for cardiovascular exercise. That was just for resistance training...

    That's crazy talk!! All that stuff requires effort, who wants to do that??

    Don't judge too soon. LOL:flowerforyou: Trying to make a hard process easier doesnt always follow the notion of "being lazy".
  • dalgirly
    dalgirly Posts: 280 Member
    I exercise so I don`t have to restrict everything in my life. I enjoy exercise, its good for my heart and overall health and it destresses me. Then I can go and enjoy wings and beer once in a while too.

    These articles are excuses.
  • sarahgilmore
    sarahgilmore Posts: 572 Member
    I will counter that article with this crossfit blog:

    http://www.crossfitsouthbay.com/2011/05/skinny-fat/

    I'm going to keep working out, thank you very much.

    thankyou for posting this- Finally somewhere that explains 'skinny fat' people costantly tell me I'm thin- they don't understand that under my clothes is a very different story!
    I don't want to look overly muscular, i think I'll need to work out a training regime that is good for me.

    Don't worry about 'looking muscular' - it won't happen unless you take hormones/steroids, eat a HUGE surplus and practically live in the gym. As a woman, your body just won't go all female-arnie like so many are scared of, naturally.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    I agree, this article does focus too much on the 'getting thin part' I DO really want to be healthy as well.

    I personally find exercise very difficult, and I find myself saying to myself 'its far easier to stay inside and just eat less'
    wrong I know... The main issue i have (which re-reading my original post i realise i probably didn't explain properly) is that I'll do, say, an hour of tennis, and I will feel like eating a loaf of bread - when in actual fact I have only 'earned' one slice, so I will end up grouchy and hungry. I think I'm doing something wrong...

    You're hungry because you don't eat enough. Lately, you have gone from 900/day to over 1200. Keep that up. And if you exercise, you can eat even more than that.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    I agree, this article does focus too much on the 'getting thin part' I DO really want to be healthy as well.

    I personally find exercise very difficult, and I find myself saying to myself 'its far easier to stay inside and just eat less'
    wrong I know... The main issue i have (which re-reading my original post i realise i probably didn't explain properly) is that I'll do, say, an hour of tennis, and I will feel like eating a loaf of bread - when in actual fact I have only 'earned' one slice, so I will end up grouchy and hungry. I think I'm doing something wrong...

    You're hungry because you don't eat enough. Lately, you have gone from 900/day to over 1200. Keep that up. And if you exercise, you can eat even more than that.
    LOL her problem (or should I say my problem) is that she knows she can eat more, and way more... :drinker:
  • Silvergamma
    Silvergamma Posts: 102 Member
    ...

    thankyou for posting this- Finally somewhere that explains 'skinny fat' people costantly tell me I'm thin- they don't understand that under my clothes is a very different story!
    I don't want to look overly muscular, i think I'll need to work out a training regime that is good for me.

    Don't worry about 'looking muscular' - it won't happen unless you take hormones/steroids, eat a HUGE surplus and practically live in the gym. As a woman, your body just won't go all female-arnie like so many are scared of, naturally.

    Yup. Even with hard work and a surplus of food, women don't naturally build bulky muscle. This is a picture of Marilou Dozois-prevost:

    http://pageslap.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/marilou_dozois-prevost1.jpg?w=400&h=611

    She is a Canadian weightlifting champion. That is someone who has committed their life to heavy lifting.

    Eat less to reduce fat, exercise to look good naked.
  • bett_boop
    bett_boop Posts: 89 Member
    Eat less to reduce fat, exercise to look good naked.
    [/quote]

    this is going to be my new mantra!
  • runnermama81
    runnermama81 Posts: 388 Member
    I'd rather be a little thick and firm than thin and flabby!!
  • sarahgilmore
    sarahgilmore Posts: 572 Member
    I'd rather be a little thick and firm than thin and flabby!!

    SO THIS
    I don't care what size my pants are, so long as I don't bulge in them
  • tigertchr23
    tigertchr23 Posts: 418 Member
    I agree, this article does focus too much on the 'getting thin part' I DO really want to be healthy as well.

    I personally find exercise very difficult, and I find myself saying to myself 'its far easier to stay inside and just eat less'
    wrong I know... The main issue i have (which re-reading my original post i realise i probably didn't explain properly) is that I'll do, say, an hour of tennis, and I will feel like eating a loaf of bread - when in actual fact I have only 'earned' one slice, so I will end up grouchy and hungry. I think I'm doing something wrong...

    Eating more protein should do the trick . . . eating carbs won't make you feel as full. So, add in some protein shakes or up your lean meat intake. Leave your carbs/sugars intake to fresh fruits and vegetables.

    Best wishes :flowerforyou:
  • Actavella
    Actavella Posts: 39 Member
    You will have a SAGGY BODY without exercise! Exercise is good for brain and organ function, especially the heart. It's good for your bones and overall health. It's about more than just the number on the scale!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,339 Member
    If someone has never exercised as part of a lifestyle, then this is a perfect excuse, that's for sure. Your in the majority if that makes you feel better.
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