What's your Turbo Fire Heart Rate?

nikkishai

Hola! I'm thinking about buying Turbo Fire, but I'm curious if my HR will be to high for efficient fat burn on this program. Can you share your age/avg HR/max HR for some of those workouts? I ask because I took the Turbo Kick class at 24HR and my HR was super high.

For Polar HRM users: I'm supposed to keep my HR in Zone 1 and 2 (no Zone 3 right now). That Turbo Kick class is super fun, but my HR was in the "no-no" Zone 3 most of the time. Oops...

(I do Insanity on my home days, just slower than the DVD so my HR won't sky rocket. Looking to add Turbo Fire for some more excitement).

Thanks!!!

tageekly

I use a Polar HRM and my heart rate gets pretty high - definitely far outside the fat burn range. I'm 31 and I'm not sure of the average (don't have my HRM with me at work!) but my max, especially in the HIIT workouts, was 175-180. You could certainly still do the program, just not at the intensity of Chalene.

Also, unless you're keeping your heart rate lower due to medical reasons, I would work out at a super high intensity for a shorter period of time. You're still burning a lot of calories, though less may come from fat stores, you're still gonna see weight and inch losses.

firedragon064

1st for all, forget about exercise in the zone. If you feel fine, you should keep your heart rate up or work as hard as you can.
I'm 47. When I'm in HIIT session of TF, my heart rate are in the high 170. Turbo Kick at 24 hr fitness is awsome so you should keep it up. When I do my work out in class, I work harder. Try Boot Camp class also. It's a killer!

jennadelane

Mine gets really high with Turbo Fire, at my max; however, I do the high impact version with Chalean. You can follow the girl doing the low impact version and still get a great workout. I think the dvds are really fun.

deannarey13

I stopped using the program for that same reason. I used the Polar as well and my heart rate was typically in Zone 4 for the majority of the workout. If you are looking to stay in Zone 1 and 2 exclusively, this is definitely not your program. The HIIT workouts are great too, but again - the same thing. There are other benefits to tossing in HIIT workouts periodically.

The program is tons of fun, but depending on your goals - not necessarily the right program for you.

deannarey13

1st for all, forget about exercise in the zone. If you feel fine, you should keep your heart rate up or work as hard as you can.
I'm 47. When I'm in HIIT session of TF, my heart rate are in the high 170. Turbo Kick at 24 hr fitness is awsome so you should keep it up. When I do my work out in class, I work harder. Try Boot Camp class also. It's a killer!

I respectfully disagree. High impact workouts are good occassionally, but they are not efficent at burning fat. Keeping your heart rate high for an extended period of time will actually burn next to none or no fat at all.

seesaey

I love TurboFire! I am 26 and my heart rate Max was 181... but that was during the fire part of the workout (the 60 seconds you push as hard as you can). The rest of the time it was probably in the 150s - 160s. I also second doing the modifications (no jumping) with the girl on the videos or taking it slower. If you can do Insanity, you can do Turbofire!! Feel free to ask any questions, I love talking about TurboFire!

nikkishai

Thanks so much MFP family! I think I'm going to get Turbo Fire and modify (for now).

firedragon064

I respectfully disagree. High impact workouts are good occassionally, but they are not efficent at burning fat. Keeping your heart rate high for an extended period of time will actually burn next to none or no fat at all.

It's more important how much calorie you can burn in a day, does not matter which zone you burn it in.
Calorie in, calorie out and that's it.
HIIT does show that it would continue to burn more calorie after the work out.
Also a long work out (1 hr +) would make you lose some lean body mass (muscle).
Maybe someone with Bodybugg or Fitbit can confirm whether this is true or not?

nikkishai

I respectfully disagree. High impact workouts are good occassionally, but they are not efficent at burning fat. Keeping your heart rate high for an extended period of time will actually burn next to none or no fat at all.

It's more important how much calorie you can burn in a day, does not matter which zone you burn it in.
Calorie in, calorie out and that's it.
HIIT does show that it would continue to burn more calorie after the work out.
Also a long work out (1 hr +) would make you lose some lean body mass (muscle).
Maybe someone with Bodybugg or Fitbit can confirm whether this is true or not?

Here are some stats from two workouts per my Polar FT60. This may shed some perspective on HIIT vs moderate effort cardio and my body:

60 minutes of Insanity (modified) = 322 cals (37% cal fat), HR avg 126/HR max 157
56 minutes of 24HR TurboKick Class (max effort) = 458 cals (20% cal fat), HR avg 154/HR max 178

My current goal: to get the stubborn fat off my thighs/hips/core.
My future goal: to increase fitness and get ripped.

Question for all: Would I need to increase my calorie intake to fuel an increase in intensity? If so, wouldn't a calorie deficit and moderate intensity get me nearly identical results? Yes, I eventually want to be ripped and all, but a six pack won't show under a chubby tummy... right now I want to efficiently burn fat. I read above that I can modify TurboFire and aim to stay between 115-154 bpm. PERFECT-O!!!

deannarey13

I respectfully disagree. High impact workouts are good occassionally, but they are not efficent at burning fat. Keeping your heart rate high for an extended period of time will actually burn next to none or no fat at all.

It's more important how much calorie you can burn in a day, does not matter which zone you burn it in.
Calorie in, calorie out and that's it.
HIIT does show that it would continue to burn more calorie after the work out.
Also a long work out (1 hr +) would make you lose some lean body mass (muscle).
Maybe someone with Bodybugg or Fitbit can confirm whether this is true or not?

I am sorry, but that's just not true. Overall, yes you are true. Calories in and calories out - that will cause weight loss. However, if you constantly workout above your fat burning zone, your body is using energy stores in your muscles, not your fat. I don't know about you, but I prefer to keep my muscle and burn my fat, not the other way around.

Not trying to argue, just share facts.

nolachick

i feel silly, i have a HRM but only was paying attention to the calories too. anyone wanna teach me about these zones u speak of?

nikkishai

i feel silly, i have a HRM but only was paying attention to the calories too. anyone wanna teach me about these zones u speak of?

I grabbed this off of the Polarusa.com website. These are the ranges for my age (28). Hope it helps!

jennadelane

I actually agree with Firedragon, for overall fat loss, what matters most is the difference between the number of calories you expend and the number of calories you consume.

"While it is true that a higher proportion of calories burned during low-intensity exercise come from fat (about 60 percent as opposed to approximately 35 percent from high-intensity programs), high-intensity exercise still burns more calories from fat in the final analysis. For example, if you perform 30 minutes of low-intensity aerobic exercise (i.e., at a level of 50 percent of maximal exercise capacity), you'll burn approximately 200 calories. About 120 of those, or 60 percent, come from fat. However, exercising for the same amount of time at a high intensity (i.e., 75 percent of your maximal exercise capacity) will burn approximately 400 calories, and 35 percent of them, or 140 calories, will come from stored fat."
excerpt from http://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs/on-fitness/2009/03/03/the-fat-burning-zone-a-fitness-myth-debunked

More resources on the subject:

http://www.jillianmichaels.com/fitness-and-diet-tips/Fat-Burning-Zone-Myth
http://exercise.about.com/od/weightloss/a/The-Truth-About-The-Fat-Burning-Zone.htm
http://scienceblogs.com/obesitypanacea/2010/06/the_myth_of_the_fat_burning_zo.php

But the body loves exercise in all forms! Good luck and best wishes to all of you!