low carb and low fat

sunitha004

can any one help low carb and low fat recipes.

SergeantSunshine_reused

hmm that is a hard one.

Only lean meats/tuna/eggwhites with veggies would equal an almost all protein meal?

ETA: There is a low carb teriaki sauce that I have, could make a good stir fry

sexysize12

I'm trying to eat low carb to reduce my my blood glucose and low fat to not increase my cholestrol, this is hard. But I guess we have to eat lean chicken breast and other lean meats such as tuna and egg whites nothing about either of them sound very appealing to me I usually like the darker meat which is more moist, time to research some recipes. Have you found meals and recipes that work for you?

cramernh

I'm trying to eat low carb to reduce my my blood glucose and low fat to not increase my cholestrol, this is hard. But I guess we have to eat lean chicken breast and other lean meats such as tuna and egg whites nothing about either of them sound very appealing to me I usually like the darker meat which is more moist, time to research some recipes. Have you found meals and recipes that work for you?

To be honest with you, Im doing low-carb under my doctor's instructions and recommendations... and even with the 1600 calorie restriction, and a 120g of carbs daily with a list of foods that I had to eliminate... my cholesterol went down from 250 to 112 in about six months... and Ive been allowed to enjoy a full slice of good old american cheese about twice per day... real butter for my vegetables a couple times per day... and my blood work was stunning!!!!

I havent gone crazy with the fats but I make sure they are healthy fats and those that are naturally occuring...

The thing I will tell you - and I mentioned it earlier... the elimination list... REALLY has made a HUGE difference....

No breads
No potatoes
No Rice
No pasta
No corn

I have though, found a low-carb brand of bread from Joseph's Bakery out of Massachusetts.... its a brand you can find in the stores actually... low carb pitas.. taste damn good! Even the tortillas cook wonderful for fajitas and quesadillas...

Im telling you... if you stick to a low carb diet that is filled with tons of vegetables, lean meats and the occasional luscious steak, wildberries only, and stick to healthy fats... you will definitely see positive and healthy results...

Have a talk with your doctor or specialist to learn more about your own health and what might work for your individual situation...

sexysize12

Cramernh great advice thanks for sharing I'm following the same concept pretty much such as your elimination list per the last nutritionist i saw, keep up the awesome work.

Elizabeth_C34

can any one help low carb and low fat recipes.

Any veggies seasoned with fresh garlic or other herbs can be delicious and virtually carb and fat free. Add those on top of or as a side to some lean meats (baked, boiled, or grilled), and you could do a lot. You can also use fat free canola oil sprays to help season the pans instead of olive oil.

The trick is to learn how to season your food so it's tasty and enjoyable (no cardboard).

Pickup some fresh herbs, spices, peppers, dry salt-free seasonings, and start using them to kick up your food a bit.

cheekyleonie

Hmmm I'm loving some of these ideas! Cutting out carbs is really hard for me because I love them, and I'm fussy when it comes to my vegetables! Seasoning the vegies sounds really good tho!

Elizabeth_C34

The thing that clogs arteries is the fat, but, what causes the fat to stick is scaring in the arteries from carbohydrates. If you have no scares the fat won't stick no matter how much you eat.

Huh?

Elizabeth_C34

The thing that clogs arteries is the fat, but, what causes the fat to stick is scaring in the arteries from carbohydrates. If you have no scares the fat won't stick no matter how much you eat.

Huh?

Arteries are nice and smooth for blood to pass through. You can eat fat and it won't start to stick to the arteries. Once you start consuming simple sugars. It starts to cut fine lines in the arteries making it rough, on this rough surface fat can stick, causing arteries to clog up.

Where did you get this information?

djkshdfd

The thing that clogs arteries is the fat, but, what causes the fat to stick is scaring in the arteries from carbohydrates. If you have no scares the fat won't stick no matter how much you eat.

Huh?

Arteries are nice and smooth for blood to pass through. You can eat fat and it won't start to stick to the arteries. Once you start consuming simple sugars. It starts to cut fine lines in the arteries making it rough, on this rough surface fat can stick, causing arteries to clog up.

Where did you get this information?

I am curious as well PU-zerz!

servilia

I've heard of this - the idea is that the simple carbs cause inflammation, and cholesterol then goes to the site to heal the inflammation - except the smaller chol molecules can get under the top layer of the artery and the clogging starts. I don't have any studies but I will take a look at what PU has posted.

chrisdavey

I'll just say that low carb & low fat diet is a sure fire way to feel like **** in no time.

Get your minimum protein & fats & hit your cal goal. Eat "clean" if you want.

firedragon064

Remember I 'm not a good cook
I just made this
Chicken salad

Roasted chicken breast
NonFat sour cream (2 carb of sugar per 2 tablespoon)
mustard
chopped pickle
onion
celery
pickle water

Over romaine lettuce.. yummy.

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Tomorrow I'll do the same thing with tuna fish. If I eat tuna I don't take my fish oil pill.

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baked chicken breast with soysauce and mustard
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Snack
NF sour cream with ranch mix and veggie.
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Chicken soup... be creative
Chicken breast, chicken broth, carrots (not for eating), celery...
I did not try it yet, going to do this week.

heybales

Perhaps not that exact description of the effect, but that information has been coming out for over a year it seems like.
I wonder if Dr Oz is keeping up with current research, or actually reading the research from these studies?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=carbs-against-cardio

In March the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition published a meta-analysis—which combines data from several studies—that compared the reported daily food intake of nearly 350,000 people against their risk of developing cardiovascular disease over a period of five to 23 years. The analysis, overseen by Ronald M. Krauss, director of atherosclerosis research at the Children’s Hospital Oakland Research Institute, found no association between the amount of saturated fat consumed and the risk of heart disease.

http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/news/20100802/low-carb-diets-improve-cholesterol-long-term

But throughout the two-year study, low-carbohydrate dieters had significantly increased HDL, or "good," cholesterol levels compared to low-fat dieters.

During the first six months of the study, the low-fat dieters had greater reductions in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol, but the differences did not persist over time.

The study is not the first to suggest that low-carb weight loss programs like the Atkins diet are safe and may be slightly better than low-fat diets for reducing risk factors for heart disease.

Elizabeth_C34

The thing that clogs arteries is the fat, but, what causes the fat to stick is scaring in the arteries from carbohydrates. If you have no scares the fat won't stick no matter how much you eat.

Huh?

Arteries are nice and smooth for blood to pass through. You can eat fat and it won't start to stick to the arteries. Once you start consuming simple sugars. It starts to cut fine lines in the arteries making it rough, on this rough surface fat can stick, causing arteries to clog up.

Where did you get this information?

Well, i did a quick search to find a valid study i could find you. Not in the mood to be digging through the internet to find you a more "general" study in sexes. This study was done on women. Also take note on my first post, i said "carbohydrates" on my second post, i said "simple sugars" I didn't want people to think all carbohydrates have this effect.

Here is the study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837285

I have other ones on my other computer, but that's all i could find right now. If you think of it from a evolutionary stand point. Before agriculture there was no heart disease. It started when man started to process food that heart disease started to show up. People would eat a lot of fat, in terms of animal meat, with no undue sideeffects.

People often debate "well they only lived to be 30" Yeah that's true, that was our life span is at the time, now we're living longer than ever. It's just how evolution is. These people who lived in their 30's lived a disease free life.

People often bring up the oldest mummy ever found, how she had heart disease. Well that was during agricultural times, i am talking about before those times.

Okay, first of all the study you posted does NOT say that sugar is what scars up your arteries. What it says is, "These epidemiologic data suggest that a high dietary glycemic load from refined carbohydrates increases the risk of CHD, independent of known coronary disease risk factors."

Furthermore, it says, "The increased risk of CHD associated with high glycemic load was most evident among women with BMIs >23. Little relation between glycemic load and CHD risk was found among women with BMIs < 23." This indicates that CHD associated with a high glycemic load is confounded with BMI's of women who are at, above, or near the "overweight" category which carries with it higher body fat percentages, increases the risk of high blood pressure, and other potential contributing factors to CHD that are not accounted for in this study independently.

Also, your claim about simple sugars is not well supported by this study. The authors make multiple mention of the fact that simple sugars are NOT well coorelated with CHD.

This study makes no mention of the argument that sugars "scar" your arteries so fat can deposit and form plaque and clots.

I'm not saying this to pick on you, but a claim that sugar "scars" up your arteries and causes fat to stick is a very wild claim, and you should be prepared to back it up with legitimate science.

Acg67

Well, i did a quick search to find a valid study i could find you. Not in the mood to be digging through the internet to find you a more "general" study in sexes. This study was done on women. Also take note on my first post, i said "carbohydrates" on my second post, i said "simple sugars" I didn't want people to think all carbohydrates have this effect.

Here is the study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837285

I have other ones on my other computer, but that's all i could find right now. If you think of it from a evolutionary stand point. Before agriculture there was no heart disease. It started when man started to process food that heart disease started to show up. People would eat a lot of fat, in terms of animal meat, with no undue sideeffects.

People often debate "well they only lived to be 30" Yeah that's true, that was our life span is at the time, now we're living longer than ever. It's just how evolution is. These people who lived in their 30's lived a disease free life.

People often bring up the oldest mummy ever found, how she had heart disease. Well that was during agricultural times, i am talking about before those times.

a paleo zealot?

correlation =/= causation

maybe paleo man and people before agriculture didn't develop disease because they ate lots of micro nutrient dense foods that contained a lot of phyto nutrients like fruits and not because of evil evil cho?

teagin2002

this recipe is for a sweet with a taffy texture:

4 scoops whey protein powder (I use Costco muscle milk)
1 tbs coconut oil
a little bit of cold water maybe 1/4 cup
If you want to be a bit sweeter add some plenda or stevia, I don't need to though it is sweet enough for me.:bigsmile:

Total calories: 740, protein: 64g, carb: 36g, Sugar: 8, Fat: 24g, Sodium: 600g
Calories per serving: it depends on how many balls you make

add all these ingredients to the food processor and pulse it. It will start getting a stringy texture. Form small round balls and keep refrigerated.

RonSwanson66

Well, i did a quick search to find a valid study i could find you. Not in the mood to be digging through the internet to find you a more "general" study in sexes. This study was done on women. Also take note on my first post, i said "carbohydrates" on my second post, i said "simple sugars" I didn't want people to think all carbohydrates have this effect.

Here is the study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837285

I have other ones on my other computer, but that's all i could find right now. If you think of it from a evolutionary stand point. Before agriculture there was no heart disease. It started when man started to process food that heart disease started to show up. People would eat a lot of fat, in terms of animal meat, with no undue sideeffects.

People often debate "well they only lived to be 30" Yeah that's true, that was our life span is at the time, now we're living longer than ever. It's just how evolution is. These people who lived in their 30's lived a disease free life.

People often bring up the oldest mummy ever found, how she had heart disease. Well that was during agricultural times, i am talking about before those times.

a paleo zealot?

correlation =/= causation

maybe paleo man and people before agriculture didn't develop disease because they ate lots of micro nutrient dense foods that contained a lot of phyto nutrients like fruits and not because of evil evil cho?

Or maybe because they died by the time they hit 30.

Paleomon didn't live long enough to catch teh diabetiss.

LabRat529

Okay, first of all the study you posted does NOT say that sugar is what scars up your arteries. What it says is, "These epidemiologic data suggest that a high dietary glycemic load from refined carbohydrates increases the risk of CHD, independent of known coronary disease risk factors."

Furthermore, it says, "The increased risk of CHD associated with high glycemic load was most evident among women with BMIs >23. Little relation between glycemic load and CHD risk was found among women with BMIs < 23." This indicates that CHD associated with a high glycemic load is confounded with BMI's of women who are at, above, or near the "overweight" category which carries with it higher body fat percentages, increases the risk of high blood pressure, and other potential contributing factors to CHD that are not accounted for in this study independently.

Also, your claim about simple sugars is not well supported by this study. The authors make multiple mention of the fact that simple sugars are NOT well coorelated with CHD.

This study makes no mention of the argument that sugars "scar" your arteries so fat can deposit and form plaque and clots.

I'm not saying this to pick on you, but a claim that sugar "scars" up your arteries and causes fat to stick is a very wild claim, and you should be prepared to back it up with legitimate science.

I am so glad you posted this

I was debating whether I wanted to say something to clear up an obvious misconception, but you took care of it.

I'll just add my 2 cents to say I agree completely that it's "wild" for anyone to claim that sugar damages your arteries.

LilMissFoodie

People often debate "well they only lived to be 30" Yeah that's true, that was our life span is at the time, now we're living longer than ever. It's just how evolution is. These people who lived in their 30's lived a disease free life.

Did they? Or are there just no records of how they lived at all? Did they not have any knowledge of what diseases they may have? You wouldn't give any credit to medical research for the prolonging of life - just to evolution?

LilMissFoodie

People often debate "well they only lived to be 30" Yeah that's true, that was our life span is at the time, now we're living longer than ever. It's just how evolution is. These people who lived in their 30's lived a disease free life.

Did they? Or are there just no records of how they lived at all? Did they not have any knowledge of what diseases they may have? You wouldn't give any credit to medical research for the prolonging of life - just to evolution?

This is a good one. Depends on what you mean to credit medical research. Sure now a days we have a ton of drugs to combat illness, that is due to medical research and people can live longer. I think most people who live over 30 don't take drugs.

Don't they? You think most people who live over 30 haven't had vaccinations or antibiotics? They may not have died of diabetes but lets not forget that at this time, people died of a cold!