counting green tea as water
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I disagree with counting anything you drink as water. Personally if you drink a cup of coffee loaded down with cream and sugar there's no way in hell it should be counted as water.
I count water as water (obviously) and tea if I add nothing to it and it's plain tea. Once I start adding sugar (or buying bottles of green tea drink loaded with sugar and other things) I don't count it as water.0 -
I dont count green tea as water, i just dont count it. Every time i make a cup of tea, i get a glass of water, so sorted0
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Havent had to do this in a while!
Here we go again!
You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!
http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/
As for coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.
di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
adj.
Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
n.
A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.
Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.
http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what
http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/
http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm
http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html
http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not
http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php
http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo0 -
If it's caffeinated I'd count it as half (8oz tea = 4oz water), decaf I'd count as water. That's just my personal rule.0
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Havent had to do this in a while!
Here we go again!
You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!
http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/
As for coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.
di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
adj.
Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
n.
A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.
Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.
http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what
http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/
http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm
http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html
http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not
http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php
http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo
You seem to be so well-versed in this subject but never touch on why we need the magic number 8 cups per day? Even your articles say that's not true. What about the fact that we need roughly half our body weight in oz of water but up to 40% of that can come from food like fresh fruits and vegetables, but most people don't eat enough fruits and vegetables and drink too many caloric chemical soups like soda instead of water? Maybe you can find some articles on that, instead of articles that don't even support the point you're trying to make? Check out "Your Body's Many Cries for Water" by F. Batmanghelidj, M.D or watercure.com0 -
I would not do it! Coz "Water" is water! No matter what!
I mean... that's what I was thinking??? I drink coffee in the morning and water from then on. I very rarely drink anything else (well except a Bud Select 55..lol) I never thought to count anything as water but water.0 -
remember, the rule isn't referring to NEAT water. Just water. And if something you have, like coffee, has water in it, it doesn't suddenly become a solid when you add something to it.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you "count" it or not. Your body IS getting hydration from it. Fact. It doesn't stop just because you don't "count" it.0 -
Can this myth please die?
*Note holding your breath is not a diuretic.0 -
Havent had to do this in a while!
Here we go again!
You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!
http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/
As for coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.
di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
adj.
Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
n.
A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.
Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.
http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what
http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/
http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm
http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html
http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not
http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php
http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo
You seem to be so well-versed in this subject but never touch on the magic number of why we need 8 cups per day? What about the fact that we need roughly half our body weight in oz of water but up to 40% of that can come from food like fresh fruits and vegetables? Maybe you can find some articles on that.
The bottom line is that the often quoted figure of eight cups a day has never been suggested as a standard requirement by any research, and giving a one number fits all amount is ridiculous - so ridiculous in fact, that when I first joined this site I nearly gave up on the site when I saw it incorporated such an ill informed concept.
The requirement, as everyone with half a brain surely realises, varies wildly depending on physical work done, climate, body weight etc etc etc. When walking round historical sites in the Middle East in the summer, I needed approximately three times the total fluid intake than I normally need doing a similar amount of walking in a British winter.
EDITED TO ADD: Really... Do people honestly think that your stomach and digestive tract have any way of differentiating whether the water molecules that are in their digestive fluids originally swilled down their throat as "pure" water and then mixed with dryish food that had just been eaten (eg a chicken salad), or entered the body as chicken soup.0 -
It's amazing how many people buy into the "only pure water counts" myth.
Seriously, if you make a cup of tea from 8 oz. of water why wouldn't you count it? Where do you think the water has gone? Does it turn into dust as soon as the tea bag enters the picture? Is there a magician in the tea bag that waves a magic wand and makes the water disappear? :huh:
Seriously, just think about it. It completely defies logic to suggest that a cup of tea is not a cup of water.
Whether you count it or not your body thanks you for the hydration. :drinker:0 -
WATER is a diuretic. Diuretic has nothing to do with dehydration. All a diuretic does is help eliminate excess water. Can this myth please die?
THANK YOU!
Ay-yi-yi!
You can't have caffeine because it's a diuretic! You can't have salt because it makes you retain water! So, if I put a teaspoon of salt in my diet soda, THEN can I count it as water? just kidding, of course.0 -
Is there a magician in the tea bag that waves a magic wand and makes the water disappear? :huh:0
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I don't count mine, but not intentionally--I'd just never thought of it.0
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You can't have caffeine because it's a diuretic! You can't have salt because it makes you retain water! So, if I put a teaspoon of salt in my diet soda, THEN can I count it as water? just kidding, of course.
Or maybe it's that they are storing it in different places...
Hey, I bet if someone bothered to do the research they'd find that some parts of the body were permanently bloated and other parts were permanently dehydrated. I'm claiming that my huge *kitten* is the bit that's bloated with water from excess sodium. *nods*0 -
I count everything, even though I only drink water and green tea. If it has calories I log it aswell.my boyfriend drinks no water at all, he can't stand it. He drinks diet soda and tea or coffee with milk and sugar, he's not dehydrated and is steadily losing weight with no effects of dehydration.0
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Hey, I bet if someone bothered to do the research they'd find that some parts of the body were permanently bloated and other parts were permanently dehydrated. I'm claiming that my huge *kitten* is the bit that's bloated with water from excess sodium. *nods*
My boobs are dehydrated. j/k, they are a respectable C.0
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