1500 cal burn then eat crap???
amuchison
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So I'm confused what's the point of being 100% all week with diet and exercise n then u eat 3,000 cals in one day loaded n sodium n fat etc...isn't it kinda pointless to have a Great week...and do u have 1500 cal burns in one day so that u can eat over at dinner or have a yummy snack...why?? dosent that destroy the work u just did...I don't know much about all this so it makes no since to me...Someone please help me to understand...do u get a free pas because u burned 5000 cals this week?
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OH GOD! OH MY FACE!!! WHY DID I LOOK AT IT?!?!?!
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If someone burn 1500+ calories and go and eat junk they are just out right stupid.....I buurn 1100+ calories just about every day and i eat and drink 1000 back in protein shake and fish and one 8oz drink. the more you burn the more you have to eat because MFP already has your daily goal set without any workouts involved....0
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It depends on what the persons goals are. They may not be the same as yours.
Some people have a goal of simply losing weight, nothing more, nothing less. For these people, once they stick with their deficit, it doesn't matter if they eat 1500cals of 'rubbish' food one day. They will still lose the weight and reach their goals.
Others want to not only lose weight, but to generally eat healthier. If your goal is to eat healthy/clean, then obviously eating 1500 of 'rubbish' isn't compatible with this.
Not everyone is aiming for the same thing.
Personally, my primary aim is to lose the weight. I try not to worry too much about the rest. That said, I've also improved my diet in general, but this is mainly because it's easier to keep my deficit with a better/cleaner diet.
I still love my 'rubbish' and some days I'll go nuts and save calories so I can eat a popcorn and the cinema and pizza afterwards. I'm well aware those aren't the healthiest choices in terms of food, but my aim isn't to never eat unhealthy food again, it's to moderate how much I eat.0 -
OH GOD! OH MY FACE!!! WHY DID I LOOK AT IT?!?!?!
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If someone burn 1500+ calories and go and eat junk they are just out right stupid....
Why?
Personally, the idea of getting to eat something nice is what makes me go to the gym sometime. There'd be days I couldn't be bothered, but thinking 'If I go workout for an hour, I can eat a bar of chocolate tonight' gets me up off my backside. I still maintain my calorie deficit, plus I get a decent cardio workout.0 -
For me, I need that spike day in calories to keep losing....otherwise I get stuck0
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If someone burn 1500+ calories and go and eat junk they are just out right stupid....
Why?
Personally, the idea of getting to eat something nice is what makes me go to the gym sometime. There'd be days I couldn't be bothered, but thinking 'If I go workout for an hour, I can eat a bar of chocolate tonight' gets me up off my backside. I still maintain my calorie deficit, plus I get a decent cardio workout.
No, don't get me wrong. There is a differnce in eating "junk" and eating "pure junk". A bar of chocolate aint going to hurt anything, thats still less than 400 cals, i don't eat that stuff so i don't know the calories it has in it but to eat 1500+ calories of pure junk is stupid to me.... even 800 cals of junk is stupid to me. I don't want to piss anybody off here but thats just how i see it.0 -
No, don't get me wrong. There is a differnce in eating "junk" and eating "pure junk". A bar of chocolate aint going to hurt anything, thats still less than 400 cals, i don't eat that stuff so i don't know the calories it has in it but to eat 1500+ calories of pure junk is stupid to me.... even 800 cals of junk is stupid to me. I don't want to piss anybody off here but thats just how i see it.
Again, why? Why is it stupid?
No one's pissed off, just looking for your reasoning.0 -
I totally get having a little something..but like 2 or 3 meals or even a day of crap?? u just destroyed all your hard work...wether your goal is to lose weight or eat healthy etc...it still seems pointless...when I go into maintenance I am looking forward to being able to eat a little n not gain but by no means will I burn a crap ton of calories to throw it away by eating 500 cals of fat,sodium n crap...0
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I totally get having a little something..but like 2 or 3 meals or even a day of crap?? u just destroyed all your hard work...wether your goal is to lose weight or eat healthy etc...it still seems pointless...when I go into maintenance I am looking forward to being able to eat a little n not gain but by no means will I burn a crap ton of calories to throw it away by eating 500 cals of fat,sodium n crap...
Well, that's your opinion and what works for you may not work for everyone. I find that having one day a week where I don't worry about what I eat and workout extra hard makes my life more managable. I got tired of telling friends no I can't go eat there or no I can't go out for drinks. I limit it to one day a week and it hasn't really impeded my weight loss in the past. In fact, it helped me to make the right choices the rest of the time. I also found that after a while I no longer wanted the crap. It didn't make me feel good. I've had to start again in the last few months, and I'm continuing to use the same strategy and it's working.0 -
No, don't get me wrong. There is a differnce in eating "junk" and eating "pure junk". A bar of chocolate aint going to hurt anything, thats still less than 400 cals, i don't eat that stuff so i don't know the calories it has in it but to eat 1500+ calories of pure junk is stupid to me.... even 800 cals of junk is stupid to me. I don't want to piss anybody off here but thats just how i see it.
Again, why? Why is it stupid?
No one's pissed off, just looking for your reasoning.
The high sugar and fat from junk food affects your workout by interfering with your body's ability to maximize the use of energy or calories from food. Fat takes a bit longer for your body to process. This reduces readily available energy, while increasing longer term energy release. Because your body is efficient at getting nutrients to cells and then storage, your body can process simple sugars quicker than you can use that energy. This can deprive you of much needed energy during an intense workout and promote fat storage.0 -
Well that's good and I'm glad that is working for u...I just see spacing things out and limiting but with healthier choices to live a life n eat not so full of restrictions...we all want to eat n drink as we please but in moderation...its refreshing to add different points of view as I get more insight on what works n what doesn't;)0
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I totally get having a little something..but like 2 or 3 meals or even a day of crap?? u just destroyed all your hard work...wether your goal is to lose weight or eat healthy etc...it still seems pointless...
No, you didn't.
If your goal is to have a calorie deficit of 3500cals a week, and you did this, regardless of what you eat you are not destroying your hard work, you are achieving your goal and will lost weight.0 -
The high sugar and fat from junk food affects your workout by interfering with your body's ability to maximize the use of energy or calories from food. Fat takes a bit longer for your body to process. This reduces readily available energy, while increasing longer term energy release. Because your body is efficient at getting nutrients to cells and then storage, your body can process simple sugars quicker than you can use that energy. This can deprive you of much needed energy during an intense workout and promote fat storage.
Fair points.
I tend to eat junk, after I workout, or on non-workout days, like the weekend. I certainly wouldn't fancy working out after eating junk.
I'm in no way saying there are no disadvantages to eating highly processed food that is bad for you. That is ridiculous. I'm saying that everyones goals are different, people are aware of the disadvantages of their choices and can make a decision. If it works for them and they still reach their personal goals, that's great.0 -
So what u r saying is as long as someone is creating a deficit of 3500 cals a week they can eat whatever....and they will still lose a lb a week...I think not;(0
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One bad day is not going to destroy an entire week of hard work. Unless you ate like an entire week's worth of of being over by like 1000 calories a day + the calories you ate all week. lol.0
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this is mostly me.Personally, my primary aim is to lose the weight. I try not to worry too much about the rest. That said, I've also improved my diet in general, but this is mainly because it's easier to keep my deficit with a better/cleaner diet.
i want to lose weight and look better, so i eat as clean as i can during the week and every so often i splurge on "junk" - burgers out, or pizza, or an all you can eat buffet..
i still exercise almost daily and do what i can with what ive got. i cant imagine a life where i deny myself foods i love simply because someone else says i shouldnt have it.0 -
If someone burn 1500+ calories and go and eat junk they are just out right stupid....
Why?
Personally, the idea of getting to eat something nice is what makes me go to the gym sometime. There'd be days I couldn't be bothered, but thinking 'If I go workout for an hour, I can eat a bar of chocolate tonight' gets me up off my backside. I still maintain my calorie deficit, plus I get a decent cardio workout.
No, don't get me wrong. There is a differnce in eating "junk" and eating "pure junk". A bar of chocolate aint going to hurt anything, thats still less than 400 cals, i don't eat that stuff so i don't know the calories it has in it but to eat 1500+ calories of pure junk is stupid to me.... even 800 cals of junk is stupid to me. I don't want to piss anybody off here but thats just how i see it.
I 100% totally agree with you on this. It is okay to have an occasional "splurge day" maybe once a month, but every week the focus should be on eating nutritious. I do think that if you are going to have a splurge day that you get in a good workout so that your splurge doesn't completely blow your day. It's all about the mindset and getting past negative habits to be healthy.
Mary Ann
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I totally get having a little something..but like 2 or 3 meals or even a day of crap?? u just destroyed all your hard work...wether your goal is to lose weight or eat healthy etc...it still seems pointless...when I go into maintenance I am looking forward to being able to eat a little n not gain but by no means will I burn a crap ton of calories to throw it away by eating 500 cals of fat,sodium n crap...
It's because I love to work out, and I love to eat, so it goes well. I don't eat a ton of crap, since I like fruit and stuff, but running for an hour feels good, and I can eat ice cream afterwards.0 -
I totally get having a little something..but like 2 or 3 meals or even a day of crap?? u just destroyed all your hard work...wether your goal is to lose weight or eat healthy etc...it still seems pointless...when I go into maintenance I am looking forward to being able to eat a little n not gain but by no means will I burn a crap ton of calories to throw it away by eating 500 cals of fat,sodium n crap...
It's because I love to work out, and I love to eat, so it goes well. I don't eat a ton of crap, since I like fruit and stuff, but running for an hour feels good, and I can eat ice cream afterwards.
I get what the OP is saying though - I have seen diaries that have 1500 calories burned, but every single meal was fast food, frozen pizza, et cetera. An ice cream treat is one thing, but eating like a college student is not. It's all about choices.
Mary Ann
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its pretty much true. you hear about the professor that did the twinkie diet? he pretty much only ate things you could find at a gas station..the majority of his diet was twinkies. he counted calories and created a deficit and lost like 30 lbs. his blood work improved and all that too. google itSo what u r saying is as long as someone is creating a deficit of 3500 cals a week they can eat whatever....and they will still lose a lb a week...I think not;(0 -
When I was actively losing, instead of maintaining (I'm pregnant) I'd allow myself one cheat day, this was they day I'd allow myself usually one meal and dessert or snacks that weren't the best and usually made me go over my calories, however it was only by a couple hundred for the day. For me it's a big mental game, because I can tell myself "you can have that cupcake on Saturday" or "you can get the blizzard from DQ On Saturday" most of the time the want of that item would pass, but if It didn't I didn't feel like I could never have those things. Everyone does what they do for their own reasons, and for some having that 1 day a week of "cheating" helps them get through the week of making good choices. But I also don't work out that day. I did notice that after doing this for a while, my "cheat" day became more of a normal day with a special "treat", because I simply didn't desire the other stuff. You've gotta do whats best for you, and leave all the rest behind.0
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On Thursday I ate about 2,000 calories worth of Panda Express... And the scale was down another pound the next day. Every one is different... Some people's body's can handle a cheat day. For my weight loss, I have to shock my body every once in a while by eating a high fat, high carb meal every so often. For me, this actually speeds up my weight loss and has gotten me over a plateau.0
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im find myself in the same boat. recently my "cheat days" have been either like the rest of the week, or just a little dessert or something. i used to have cheat days where id go over by 1000..i was still under/at maintenance, and it never slowed my weight loss and it kept me on track the rest of the week. i had lots of times where id weigh after a cheat day and be down 1-4 lbsWhen I was actively losing, instead of maintaining (I'm pregnant) I'd allow myself one cheat day, this was they day I'd allow myself usually one meal and dessert or snacks that weren't the best and usually made me go over my calories, however it was only by a couple hundred for the day. For me it's a big mental game, because I can tell myself "you can have that cupcake on Saturday" or "you can get the blizzard from DQ On Saturday" most of the time the want of that item would pass, but if It didn't I didn't feel like I could never have those things. Everyone does what they do for their own reasons, and for some having that 1 day a week of "cheating" helps them get through the week of making good choices. But I also don't work out that day. I did notice that after doing this for a while, my "cheat" day became more of a normal day with a special "treat", because I simply didn't desire the other stuff. You've gotta do whats best for you, and leave all the rest behind.0 -
No, don't get me wrong. There is a differnce in eating "junk" and eating "pure junk". A bar of chocolate aint going to hurt anything, thats still less than 400 cals, i don't eat that stuff so i don't know the calories it has in it but to eat 1500+ calories of pure junk is stupid to me.... even 800 cals of junk is stupid to me. I don't want to piss anybody off here but thats just how i see it.
Again, why? Why is it stupid?
No one's pissed off, just looking for your reasoning.
The high sugar and fat from junk food affects your workout by interfering with your body's ability to maximize the use of energy or calories from food. Fat takes a bit longer for your body to process. This reduces readily available energy, while increasing longer term energy release. Because your body is efficient at getting nutrients to cells and then storage, your body can process simple sugars quicker than you can use that energy. This can deprive you of much needed energy during an intense workout and promote fat storage.
Look at my logs...i eat a piece or 2 of tiramisu for breakfast lol or i just had 6 eclairs with my dinner tonight(which i have to say were somewhat bad due to 2g of transfat i just ingested). But your body can't tell the difference between sugar from soda or sugar from chocolate covered almonds. On a bigger scale though the kind of sugar does matter as not all sugars are processed the same and don't all go to the same areas of the body(example fructose doesn't replenish muscle glycogen). I believe you can still eat a little bit of junk here and there, but you just have to structure the meal so that it causes you to feel more satiated.
Btw what your referring to is insulin release...which happens regardless of what you eat, even protein causes it to happen. If you eat anywhere over 10-20 calories of any macro nutrient, there goes a small spike of insulin. Its a storage hormone so it stops fat burning, more or less blunts it alot.0 -
Burning between 600 and 1000 somedays for a while there and eating almost all of it back in treats (ice coffee, donuts, savoury pastries), I lost 10 kilos doing that :-D (still in a deficit so what I ate didn't seem to make a huge difference).0
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For the majority of people, a calorie deficit alone will cause weight loss. Do I try to eat healthy? Of course. Do I deprive myself? Heck no. I had TWO Triple chocolate Ice cream bars today, and they were glorious. Absolutely glorious. I'll probably eat the last two tomorrow too. Are they good for me? Nope, but now I generally eat healthy otherwise, especially compared to how I was eating just a few weeks ago! I ate a lot of Ramen noodles, cereal, toast, carbs, etc., but when I started MFP, I realized healthy food has a lot less calories in it and it makes me feel better, so that is what I eat now. I've lost 8 pounds since I've started, and if you look in my diary, I'm sure there is something every day that you could scoff at. It's working for me though, and when my goals change, my eating habits might change - I wouldn't try to tone up and eat junk at the same time, but since I'm just here to lose some weight right now, if I want some junk calories, I'll workout then eat them.0
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So what u r saying is as long as someone is creating a deficit of 3500 cals a week they can eat whatever....and they will still lose a lb a week...I think not;(
It takes a 3500 calorie deficit to burn a pound of fat in a week. The actual food you eat is irelevant. As long as you reach your nutritional goals, and have an appropriate deficit to burn fat, then you can eat anything you want. It's really not complicated.0 -
I think the one thing that everyone is missing here is that if you burn high calories and simply eat "junk" to reach you caloric goals then yes, you will lose weight. The problem with this theory is, when you go into maintenance and maybe slack a bit on the exercise or what not, by not having learned the tools to eat better, the cycle of gaining will continue.
Once in maintenance it's easier to say, "Well I've lost my 50 pounds so now I don't have to be quite as careful." But if your not used to eating clean or at least cleaner, that junk you ingest when your not watching every calorie so carefully will begin to pack the pounds right back on. It may take a while because during your lose process you've gained muscle and increased your metabolism, but it will happen.
MFP is not about a diet. It's about changing the way you're doing things because they are obviously not working for you up to this point. I know believe me. I've restricted, exercised and gotten down to below my goal weight. Then I got sloppy and because I never learned how to keep my body where it was, the weight crept back on.
But believe me, I do cheat. But it is with a meal, not a day and it is still somewhat sensible. Look at my diary. You will see that Subway is my big cheat. But it doesn't make me go over my maintenance calories which are about 1640 a day, my cheats rarely do go over maintenance. Over my daily goals, yes, but not maintenance.
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So what u r saying is as long as someone is creating a deficit of 3500 cals a week they can eat whatever....and they will still lose a lb a week...I think not;(
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
However eating ALL your calories in junk is obviously not healthy, you won't hit your macros and will lead to other health issues. But you would lose the weight.0
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