What do you think when someone on MFP is losing too fast?
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:huh: I'd think it's none of my damn business, don't know about you.
^ THIS.0 -
I don't know their story, but when you are over 365lbs like me, even eating right and exercise all the right way. You are gonna just drop more. If someone slightly overweight can drop 1-2 lbs per week someone double or triple their size can easily do 2-4 or more. Its not unhealthy for their weight.0
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it is very possible the person that is losing 4 pounds a week on average had weight loss surgery and is being monitored closely by their doctors and nutritionists.
So, unless i know all the facts, I am not going to judge anyone's weight loss...
JMO
This. Now if someone said, "I lost all the weight by shackling myself to the treadmill 24/7 and eating nothing but dried toast three times a day" I might worry. Well maybe I wouldn't worry about the treadmill part. I'm soooo unmotivated to exercise right now I might try it, with the off switch out of reach!0 -
If one does not know all the details about a person's journey, I don't think it is fair to reflexively criticize them or question their methods because they don't follow what you perceive as "the rules".0
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Every case is individual and there aren't enough facts here to base a decision on.
In other words...
Move along... these aren't the droids you're looking for.
I agree wholeheartedly!!!! Move on, and it's not your business in anycase of who loses and how much weight they lose. It is their own business on how they do it!!!!
MFP is not here so that you can critizise other people or the way they lose weight. I am sure we are all well informed as to what is good for us and what is not.
Rather look for subjects that are encouraging and positive to talk about than critisize or question the successes of others!!0 -
I know what you mean. I have been actually trying since Jan.3rd.I have lost 10lbs. But I KNOW that is because of a total, complete change in a very unhealthy lifestyle. My weight now should settle in for a couple a week although I would rather it be faster0
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I only joined a week ago and had 2 bad failed days out of that so i have restricted my food intake for just a few days whilst taking vitamins so when i do start eating a proper diet i will not hunger for so much food as i will be eating more, this isnt for everyone and i wouldnt advise it to anyone but it is right for me at this time i have lost 7lbs but i was 218lbs and yes most of that is probably water weight. I do not agree with longterm restriction i do not feel that it would be my place to tell them they are wrong only to give advice, i have done it myself before and my hair fell out due to malnutriton, took ages to grow back scared me sensless, so will not be doing it again but everyone is entitled to do what they feel is right for them
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so true! Michelle Bridges from Australias Biggest Loser used to have the opinion that it's not healthy to lose too quickly but now she says that the quicker u get it off the better as u won't lose motivation and, like u said, reduce/eliminate their risks of dying from obesity related issues.Well, look at it like this... is it better to be 100+ pounds overweight (killing yourself) or lose a pound a week too fast?? I was 250 pounds overweight and lost 100 pounds in 5 months... yeah, very fast, but I was literally dying. When someone is extremely overweight, I say get it off! I see my doctor every month and they do blood tests, etc and They say everlything (heart, levels, etc) are great! For someone that doesn't have much to lose, I say do 2-3 pounds a week. But otherwise, do what you gotta do to get healthy.0 -
:huh: I'd think it's none of my damn business, don't know about you.
^^^this right here :laugh:0 -
Here's something that I'm frustrated with -
Many, many people on this site are supportive about "smart" ways to lose weight, i.e. don't diet change your lifestyle, aim for 1-2 pounds a week, exercise, etc.
HOWEVER...
I just saw a post of someone's 'success story' with pictures. Now, don't get me wrong, this person looked AMAZING, and I'm sure they (literally) worked their butt off. But then when you read the post, you see they lost 100 pounds in 6 months - that's about 4 pounds a week for half a year. I do realize that everyone is different, and maybe there isn't anything going on here, but it does seem like a bit of a red flag to me.
What really bugged me, is that in hundreds of comments, all I saw was "You go girl!" and "OMG you look HOT I am so jealous!!" Nothing about any health concerns, or asking how she did it. And maybe that's just how it is - that the purpose of MFP is to be supportive of whatever goals people have reached, without digging too deep into the process. But to me it just seems to stink of a bit of hypocrisy - like we're all preaching 'slow and steady' but secretly supporting the idea that the faster you can lose weight, the better.
I'm sure there's many sides to this story, so what are your thoughts? What do you think when you see someone on MFP with "too good to be true" stories?
It could be that they lost a great amount in the first few weeks and then it settled down to between 1 to 3lbs per week.
The heavier somebody is, the faster it comes off at the beginning.0 -
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Why do you think it is "stupid bull" for people who do NOT have "real health concerns" to want to get into shape? There is nothing wrong with skinnier people wanting to get fit or toned. It's so they can feel good about themselves & you shouldn't judge these people by just assuming that it's for "spring break". I see it a lot, there's all kinds of people on here, some to maintain, some to lose, even to gain. Maybe you might want to re-think your opinion on what is stupid or not....
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I lost 102 in 6 months......dont focus on the weight. Heaveier people can lose more in a short amount of time. If you lose 100 and youre only 250, maybe a problem---I was 467 and losing the 100+ in a short time was less of a risk than continuing to carry the extra weight. Dont go by established guideleines--they are just that, not hard and fast rules. I still am dropping lately 3 pounds a week and I dont work out 2 days a week and often go to bed far from hungry--everyone is different.0
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Right now, I'm averaging over 5 pounds a week with full support of my doctor and no concerns regarding health implications. My spinal surgeon also supported the idea that 2 years for 200+ pounds was very reasonable.
Yes, I'm watching my diet. Yes, I'm working my butt off. No, I did not have surgery, am not taking supplements, none of that. I'd just be careful about judging!0 -
I hear what you're saying and it's understandable to worry about how people are achieving their goals. However, depending on a starting weight and lifestyle, any change in the positive direction can lead to a drastic change in a persons life style.
A person that ate 4,000 calories a day and led a zero activity life goes to a 2,500 calories a day and physical activity 3 times a week is going to shed weight rather quickly...
The fact of the matter is, if you don't eat properly and do the proper exercise, you aren't going to lose weight as efficiently as you would following a proper plan.
I hope people aren't doing things that put their health in danger, but, having the weight to lose in the first place already was...0 -
I tend to worry about myself and try not to judge others. If I see someone eating in a way that I don't really agree with then I don't encourage them but I also don't express my opinion unless asked. However, if someone asks it's on them...0
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When I started with almost 100 lbs. to lose as my goal, I lost over 40 lbs. in 3 months (right around 3 lbs. per week avg.), but now that I am almost halfway there I have slowed down to the 1- 2 lbs. per week range. I haven't changed very much in my diet or exercise program, but just assume that the "easy" weight is gone, and now I am losing at a normal rate. Whatever the explanation is, I have felt better every week since I started on MFP, I can now actually run on the treadmill instead of walking at 2.5 mph, and the doctor's reports are all very positive (heart, blood pressure, etc.)
I say, if you feel good and are monitored by a doctor as you take the steps to a healthier lifestyle there is no reason for anyone to judge your particular situation. We are all individuals with our own unique challenges and successes, and the best thing we can do for each other is to offer support and encouragement.0 -
Well, look at it like this... is it better to be 100+ pounds overweight (killing yourself) or lose a pound a week too fast?? I was 250 pounds overweight and lost 100 pounds in 5 months... yeah, very fast, but I was literally dying. When someone is extremely overweight, I say get it off! I see my doctor every month and they do blood tests, etc and They say everlything (heart, levels, etc) are great! For someone that doesn't have much to lose, I say do 2-3 pounds a week. But otherwise, do what you gotta do to get healthy.
PS... I didn't have surgery, I just got extremely motivated. And a larger person tends to lose a lot faster than a smaller overweight person.
that's a misconception that the bigger you are the quicker you lose and more per week...don't know why people think that0 -
To me there's a difference between advice forums and the success story forum. If someone is asking for opinions then it's ok to me to give them what they asked for. But if they're just saying "hey I did this and I'm proud" then they didn't really ask me anything, so I either say "great job!" or I don't say anything.0
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Well I would like to say i have lost 49lbs. in 3 maybe 3 1/2 months and it has all been LIFESTYLE CHANGE just like most of those success story. She probably has or had some health issues and on one of the SUCCESS STORIES she says feel free to add me and/or ask any questions you want. So Ask them I am sure they will tell you. But seriously we are not her to throw stones just because they are doing well in their journey however they maybe doing it. I have many problems including Hypothyroid which for those who don't know what it is my thyroid gland is under-active which causes you to GAIN WEIGHT and now that is is being corrected I am losing it a lil faster than so people but its OK because I am getting health.0
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I've lost almost 60 lbs since Oct so I'm looking at losing 100 by April. I started out super morbidly obese though so the weight is just melting off. Will it slow eventually, of course but someone lighter and not as overweight as I am cannot compare their weightloss to mine. I am working my *kitten* off and am completely dedicated. Also, don't ASSume someone had weightloss surgery. It CAN be done with good ol' fashioned diet and exercise.0
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To me there's a difference between advice forums and the success story forum. If someone is asking for opinions then it's ok to me to give them what they asked for. But if they're just saying "hey I did this and I'm proud" then they didn't really ask me anything, so I either say "great job!" or I don't say anything.
YES AMEN WE ARE NOT HERE TO THROW STONES UNLESS THEY ASK FOR THEM0 -
I've lost almost 60 lbs since Oct so I'm looking at losing 100 by April. I started out super morbidly obese though so the weight is just melting off. Will it slow eventually, of course but someone lighter and not as overweight as I am cannot compare their weightloss to mine. I am working my *kitten* off and am completely dedicated. Also, don't ASSume someone had weightloss surgery. It CAN be done with good ol' fashioned diet and exercise.
(CLAP,CLAP,CLAP) Thank you!!0 -
:huh: I'd think it's none of my damn business, don't know about you.
(Clap, Clap, Clap) Amen!!!:grumble:0 -
Well, look at it like this... is it better to be 100+ pounds overweight (killing yourself) or lose a pound a week too fast?? I was 250 pounds overweight and lost 100 pounds in 5 months... yeah, very fast, but I was literally dying. When someone is extremely overweight, I say get it off! I see my doctor every month and they do blood tests, etc and They say everlything (heart, levels, etc) are great! For someone that doesn't have much to lose, I say do 2-3 pounds a week. But otherwise, do what you gotta do to get healthy.
PS... I didn't have surgery, I just got extremely motivated. And a larger person tends to lose a lot faster than a smaller overweight person.
that's a misconception that the bigger you are the quicker you lose and more per week...don't know why people think that
It's NOT a misconception... it's my personal experience.0 -
I lost 145 lbs in 7 months, without surgery, with proper diet and daily activity. I had labs drawn every month, my choice, to make sure I was getting all the nutrients I needed. It can be done. Granted I was at 337 lbs and now down to 192, so there was a lot to lose. It has slowed down to about 1 lb a week now BUT i've doubled my daily caloric intake to try and stem the lean body mass loss.
Two things I would suggest for people losing weight fast:
1. Get labs done monthly to make sure you're not creating a deficiency of some kinds with your strict diet.
2. Drink copious amounts of water if you're worried about extra skin at the end. Either I won the genetic skin lottery or the water worked. Have lost 16 pant sizes (down to 32 inch!!) and I have little extra skin. Just around my *kitten* lol, but I'm a dude and don't plan on wearing a thong to the beach this year.
Nothing wrong with losing fast, just track your nutrients.0 -
Being a one-pound-a-week girl myself, I also start to wonder when someone on MFP is losing more weight than that. My main concern is if you lose a lot of weight so quickly, will it stay off? Second, what did that other person do to lose so much weight and can I also do it? If I do it, can I sustain it? Will it be safe for me? Etc etc.
I respect the people on the post who said that it's none of our business. And really, at the end of the day, each of us has a very unique way of losing weight.
That's why when someone loses a lot of weight quickly, it's also natural for some of us to wonder if that's okay given all the medical warnings. I'm sure there is no intent to judge or criticize, but only to wonder if WE can also do that safely because wouldn't we all want to lose the weight already?!
MFP is a community: we support each other and we care about all the members who want to lose weight. So, having joined this community, I don't think I'll ever say it's none of my damn business if you have a heart attack while crash dieting. I mean, you have to speak up if you see something's wrong.
Like recently, someone told me about HGC hormone (the kind that a pregnant woman releases and shows up on the pregnancy test) as a way of losing weight fast. She said her friends lost so much weight on it (like 15 pounds in a month) and she was thinking of trying it but was afraid. So I asked a doctor and he told me that hormones are a risky thing because they can trigger cancers, just like the breast cancers that developed on women who had hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for menopause. So I told my friend and she didn't do it anymore.
What I find offensive are people who -- out of envy and spite -- tell you that you've already lost too much weight, when you -- who's constantly looking up your ideal BMI, your proper BMR and who weighs yourself every day -- know that you still have 20 pounds to go. I mean: Hello!! How obvious can your envy get??
There IS a difference between concern and envy, and we at MFP know that difference. So excuse me for now, while I recalculate my BMI and BMR, and weigh myself again. 0 -
I think it just depends. I've kept off 30 lbs including 20 I've lost since joining about a year ago. I would like to lose faster, and now I'm more focused.
A co-worker recently lost about 60 lbs, by eating very low calorie (under 1000) a day and exercising like crazy. She lost the weight in a few months and has a great deal more to lose. (She did not use MFP by the way).
One negative consequence of losing so quickly for her was that she developed gall stones (or they became a problem; it's often hard to tell if they've been there for a while). She was in terrible pain at one point and had to have emergency surgery. Doctors were also concerned that she had developed a complication, but fortunately she did not.
Also note that she was eating extremely low fat (almost no fat) and was eating mostly convenience foods due to her schedule (as opposed to fresh or whole foods).
She told me that the gallbladder problem is not unusual for someone losing weight quickly. I read somewhere that up to half of the Biggest Loser contestants have had the surgery since starting the program. Don't know how to confirm that, however.
One article on the topic of rapid weight loss said that of people who lose between 6-20+ pounds in one study, many also had problems (when compared to the population in general).
On the other hand, everyone's experience is unique. I think it's hard to say what other people should be doing. Studies only deal with the group, or aggregate, not the individual.0 -
Well, look at it like this... is it better to be 100+ pounds overweight (killing yourself) or lose a pound a week too fast?? I was 250 pounds overweight and lost 100 pounds in 5 months... yeah, very fast, but I was literally dying. When someone is extremely overweight, I say get it off! I see my doctor every month and they do blood tests, etc and They say everlything (heart, levels, etc) are great! For someone that doesn't have much to lose, I say do 2-3 pounds a week. But otherwise, do what you gotta do to get healthy.
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