10-Day Juice Fast
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I'm a physician and let me just say that there is no scientific basis for juicing. Drinking blended juice or vegetables will does not "clean" your body. We normally eliminate waste through our kidneys and liver and for a healthy person, these organs should do do job, juicing or no juicing. In the same manner, there is no scientific basis for "detox" in general. Let me challenge you with this. Try to go to search the biomedical literature (not blogs) and see if are able to find any peer-reviewed studies that say juicing is good.
Maybe juicing may seem to work because of the very low caloric intake that one does during the juicing period. But as you probably have read from this forum, the way to lose weight is not by taking extreme measures that are not sustainable in the long run. Let's say you lose weight by juicing. But you are not going to juice forever. When you get back to your usual eating, then you will gain all that weight back. And if you lose more than 3 lbs during the week that you juiced, then you would have lost muscle which will slow down your metabolism and will derail your weight loss goals in the long term. Rather, I think this forum advocates weight loss by changing your lifestyle and eating like the thinner person that you want to be.
On the positive side, I guess if you did take in enough calories while juicing, then it can't be harmful. And since you normally juice fruits and vegetables, during the time that you juice, you will be getting in more fiber, liquids and vitamins, which is a good thing. So the benefit that you will get will be from this, and not from juicing somehow detoxifying your body.0 -
:indifferent: :indifferent: :flowerforyou: Oops,The Op has it together from the research I did before I started,which was middle Oct. I have been Blendering ever since.
It is Raw. & clean,plant based.I started here to track my nutrients and follow my body guest to healthy living.Most days I am on target ,or exceed.Calories are another story though.I an work ing. Hard on balancing all this.The only issues I have right now are
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There really is no reason to juice fast. If the concept is to "clear your body of toxins" that's what your kidneys and liver are for. If it's for weight loss, then you'll lose water weight, but it can/will return once you start eating normal. And for many that do this, they don't take in the essentials they need to have an effective metabolism.
If weight is the issue, then address the real problem.................you're eating too much.
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Even worse than water weight being lost.......her muscles will be broken down to compensate for the protein that she's not eating during this metabolism-killing plan of hers. She'll gain even more fat than before because she has no muscle mass to keep her metabolism stoked. in this day and age with such easy access to the latest peer-reviewed research...there really is no excuse for this kind of ignorance.
She's looking for the magic bullet.....no such thing.....she just needs to burn more calories than she eats. Her "challenge" would be much more respectable if it were exercise-based.0 -
Let's go easy on new people wanting to get healthy and needing a jump start, shall we? Being rude and insensitive is not appropriate here.
I think part of the puzzle is to juice plants with high protein like spinach and kale. I said before that I was doing P90X and running while mostly juicing an dbuilt muscle and reduced my body fat. I also lost 10 pounds that I haven't put back on! My Dr knew I was doing it and was very supporitive. I had that last little bit to lose from having my 4th child in 2009 and it wouldn't budge. I had tried everything...diet and exercise don't ALWAYS work. I did P90X, Turbofire, Insanity and lot's of running and hiking. I have always eaten healthy and for 3 years the weight wouldn't budge...juice fasting did it!
Yes as a quick fix diet, it's not the right thing to do but it does make you crave healthy foods. If you can do the fast and then add back in healthy, unprocessed foods...That's great! If someone needs a jump start to get encouragement, I think it's worth a shot! It's certainly better than what most people eat, dieting or not.
It's 10 days people...you won't end up worse off than 90% of americans who eat garbage all day by doing a 10 day juice fast. let's keep this in perspective. Most people's protein, calories, carbs and fats aren't where they are supposed to be anyway. We are not talking about a year...it's 10 days!!!! Even if it was a little longer...if you keep the calories up...really what's the difference. The vitamins and minerals will do more for your body than a Subway sub for lunch and a burger for dinner! It's 100% natural fruit and vegetable juice!0 -
I said before that I was doing P90X and running while mostly juicing an dbuilt muscle and reduced my body fat.
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Umm. yes I did. I have the Ironman scale with body fat and BMR and muscle mass and took measurements. I chose juices with lots of protein...that is possible. There vegans and vegetaians that do the same thing with no meat. It is possible to build muscle that way.
I am not debating this...we have different opinions. That's fine.0 -
Let's go easy on new people wanting to get healthy and needing a jump start, shall we? Being rude and insensitive is not appropriate here.
I think part of the puzzle is to juice plants with high protein like spinach and kale. I said before that I was doing P90X and running while mostly juicing an dbuilt muscle and reduced my body fat. I also lost 10 pounds that I haven't put back on! My Dr knew I was doing it and was very supporitive. I had that last little bit to lose from having my 4th child in 2009 and it wouldn't budge. I had tried everything...diet and exercise don't ALWAYS work. I did P90X, Turbofire, Insanity and lot's of running and hiking. I have always eaten healthy and for 3 years the weight wouldn't budge...juice fasting did it!
Yes as a quick fix diet, it's not the right thing to do but it does make you crave healthy foods. If you can do the fast and then add back in healthy, unprocessed foods...That's great! If someone needs a jump start to get encouragement, I think it's worth a shot! It's certainly better than what most people eat, dieting or not.
It's 10 days people...you won't end up worse off than 90% of americans who eat garbage all day by doing a 10 day juice fast. let's keep this in perspective. Most people's protein, calories, carbs and fats aren't where they are supposed to be anyway. We are not talking about a year...it's 10 days!!!! Even if it was a little longer...if you keep the calories up...really what's the difference. The vitamins and minerals will do more for your body than a Subway sub for lunch and a burger for dinner! It's 100% natural fruit and vegetable juice!
1. Her profile shows that she's been on MFP since April 2010 so she's not exactly new here.
2. How is telling someone they are about to mess up their metabolism with unscientifically supported actions rude and insensitive? I'm guessing that we would all like to be warned before we chose to walk off the proverbial cliff of juicing.
3. Plant matter will never have the same amount of protein by volume that a piece of lean meat or fish does. A body needs protein every day.
4. Why mess around with the wishful thinking quick fix? Why not make today the day that you crave healthy foods taken in the right balance for your individual body? The quick fix will set her back......she should just start eating healthy and well-balanced meals now.
5. If just keeping the calories up were all that were required, then by your logic I submit that she could do just fine eating only Twinkies.
6. 10 days is more than long enough to experience muscle atrophy. If she carries on long enough with this, she could end up damaging the muscle in her heart. She mentioned something about 30 days.
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Fasts, like any diet, take of a big pile of water weight in the first week. Apart from that, all they do is possbily mess up yur metabolism and make you cranky.
Not recommended.
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My point was exactly the opposit of the twinkie thing. I know people who eat ONLY junk food and have lost weight by restricting calories, so that's true. You can lose weight by eating just twinkies. I was saying that this is better than that, which is what so many people do. Poeple just cut calories to lose weight, they don't change the calories. Juicing or eating mostly fruits and veggies, changes your outlook and cravings...I know because I have done it.
Sure, meat has more protein, but not everyone eats meat. I have seen lots of bodybuilder vegetarians and olympic athletes that are vegans!
We don't need nearly as much protein as Americans think we do and the reason a majority of Americans are oevrweight is because they eat too much junk...I think we can all agree on that.
I am just going to agree to disagree here.
I hope you have a great night and I wish you much success on your weight loss journies, where ever they take you!
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There is a group on this site for jjuicing and it had some inspirational stories on it. I am often surprised how judgmental people can be on this support site. If you have done the research and meet your nutritional requirements. You will be fine. I have had friends that did 30 to 90 day juice fasts for religious reasons without I'll effect. Good luck! Go check out the group section0
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There is a group on this site for jjuicing and it had some inspirational stories on it. I am often surprised how judgmental people can be on this support site. If you have done the research and meet your nutritional requirements. You will be fine. I have had friends that did 30 to 90 day juice fasts for religious reasons without I'll effect. Good luck! Go check out the group section0
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There really is no reason to juice fast. If the concept is to "clear your body of toxins" that's what your kidneys and liver are for. If it's for weight loss, then you'll lose water weight, but it can/will return once you start eating normal. And for many that do this, they don't take in the essentials they need to have an effective metabolism.
If weight is the issue, then address the real problem.................you're eating too much.
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Even worse than water weight being lost.......her muscles will be broken down to compensate for the protein that she's not eating during this metabolism-killing plan of hers. She'll gain even more fat than before because she has no muscle mass to keep her metabolism stoked. in this day and age with such easy access to the latest peer-reviewed research...there really is no excuse for this kind of ignorance.
She's looking for the magic bullet.....no such thing.....she just needs to burn more calories than she eats. Her "challenge" would be much more respectable if it were exercise-based.
You don't seem to be listening to what's she's saying - she is not looking for a 'magic bullet', she is looking to load her body with super-nutrients with mega doses of vegetables and fruits in a juice form - many would argue it's MUCH healthier than a meat based diet given that most meat proteins in the marketplace are imbued with additives, nitrates, and the cattle or chicken have been given hormones, and mass doses of antibiotics which are passed on to consumer.
It is NOT a metabolism killing program - If you are choosing the right balance of fruits and vegetables to juice, you are getting adequate protein (not excess protein as most americans do), adequate calories, and super high quantities of natural sources of vitamins, antioxidants, and anti-inflamatories(helps many arthritis sufferers).
Many physicians DO support this type of program, as long as it is undertaken carefully and mindfully. Because it is outside the box do not dismiss this unless you have REALLY done the research. Check out what Dr. Fuhrman says about this. No, I'm not a juicer, but I do respect those that choose this method to address health issues, and have seen people have great results for medical issues incorporating this type of program on a limited basis.0 -
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If done long enough, many may not get in essential proteins and fats. And low calories from juicing can disrupt metabolism if it's stayed on for a long enough time.It's fine to disagree, but dangerous it's not! How could something so full of vitamins and nutrients and straight from a garden to your glass be dangerous! We are not talking about V8 juice and Tropicana...this is so much more than that.
Diets don't work. You are assuming too much with your statement of eating garbage, etc. SCIENCE has show through clinical study that it's not needed. Unless you can come up with some peer reviewed clinical study showing that juicing eliminates the "bad" from the body, then it's just anecdotal.I'll bet those who criticize such a healthy diet ate some much processed, garbage with things you can't even pronounce on the label recently...a few days on juice will do everybody some good!
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People are scared of not eating. They get all panicky at the thought of going without their food for even one day. Starvation, they scream! Metabolism killer! I bet they have done no research on the matter.
I have done it, it cured me. That is all the scientific research I need. It worked for me.
Why people will jump all over someone and basically call them stupid for a healthy choice they are making makes no sense to me. If you don't agree with what she is doing then say nothing. If you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all.
Maybe you don't have any medical issues you need to clear up, maybe you just need to lose weight. Until you have stood in someone's shoes who has a medical issue and desperately needs it resolved then don't judge.
Doctors and their medicine did not help me, in fact they are what caused my problem. Juicing resolved it.0 -
3. Plant matter will never have the same amount of protein by volume that a piece of lean meat or fish does. A body needs protein every day.
Have you ever looked at the protein in hemp? Add a scoop of hemp protein powder into the juice, and it's an instant 21 grams of water-soluable protein.
Where are the studies that prove it to be dangerous or a metabolism-killer? I'd like to see them.0 -
Wow! Congratulations and goodluck to challenging yourself on a weight-loss program. I, myself underwent the same thing. What I did was after office hours, I do jogging around the neighborhood. Who says that jogging can only be done at the break of dawn? I do it every afternoon right after doing daily tasks at work. Exercise is not enough to reach the ideal weight I wanted, so, I did juicing of veggies like carrots, tomatoes, cucumber and fruits as well. What's good with juicing is that it extract the fiber and natural vitamins out of the veggies and fruits.
I am even more thankful when I found this very reasonable juicer at an online store, maybe you should also check it out. Just click on http://www.juicerreviews101.com/compare-best-juicers0 -
This may sound like a very naive question but i know nothing about Juice fasts etc, could one not just eat the raw fruit and vegetables as opposed to juicing them? I don't understand why you need to juice them and loose all that fibre?0
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I watched Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead a couple of weeks ago. Let me tell you, before watching I was NOT a fan of juice fasts. But this guy who went off all his meds and was full and people even said the juice tasted ok has made me wonder. I don't have a juicer but I plan to invest in one when I get the money and try it. Let me know how it goes and what recipes you use! Good luck 0
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Does anyone else find the fact that people are getting their feelings hurt and upset over juicing hilarious? I think all extremes are dangerous to promote through a site like this. On another note: please dont use the arguement that "Many doctors aprove" the fact is, if they dont have a specialty in nutrition in excerise they dont really know what they are talking about. Just because they went to medical school doesnt mean they are an expert in nutrition and the effects of fad diets like "juicing"
Any if you are wondering, yes I did just meat to stir the pot :-)0 -
Many say HCG worked for them. I believe that unbiased research is much more important than taking some people's word for it.People are scared of not eating. They get all panicky at the thought of going without their food for even one day. Starvation, they scream! Metabolism killer! I bet they have done no research on the matter.
I have done it, it cured me. That is all the scientific research I need. It worked for me.
Why people will jump all over someone and basically call them stupid for a healthy choice they are making makes no sense to me. If you don't agree with what she is doing then say nothing. If you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all.
Maybe you don't have any medical issues you need to clear up, maybe you just need to lose weight. Until you have stood in someone's shoes who has a medical issue and desperately needs it resolved then don't judge.
Doctors and their medicine did not help me, in fact they are what caused my problem. Juicing resolved it.
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I watched Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead a couple of weeks ago. Let me tell you, before watching I was NOT a fan of juice fasts. But this guy who went off all his meds and was full and people even said the juice tasted ok has made me wonder. I don't have a juicer but I plan to invest in one when I get the money and try it. Let me know how it goes and what recipes you use! Good luck
"There's a sucker born every minute" ~PT Barnum.
So you threw out your rational beliefs after watching a glorified info-mercial? Why?0 -
You know what you're right, because the agriculture industry has NEVER sprayed bad stuff on their crops.You don't seem to be listening to what's she's saying - she is not looking for a 'magic bullet', she is looking to load her body with super-nutrients with mega doses of vegetables and fruits in a juice form - many would argue it's MUCH healthier than a meat based diet given that most meat proteins in the marketplace are imbued with additives, nitrates, and the cattle or chicken have been given hormones, and mass doses of antibiotics which are passed on to consumer.
What's your basis for claiming that most Americans get too much protein? I'd like to see whatever diet they're on because I have to consciously try to get enough protein in my diet, and usually find myself going over on carbs if I'm not careful.It is NOT a metabolism killing program - If you are choosing the right balance of fruits and vegetables to juice, you are getting adequate protein (not excess protein as most americans do), adequate calories, and super high quantities of natural sources of vitamins, antioxidants, and anti-inflamatories(helps many arthritis sufferers).
I don't have a problem with juicing, I just don't see how it's somehow better than just eating the whole foods before they went into the blender first. If you're getting adequate calories and appropriate macro and micro nutrients (something I suspect most people trying this do not do) I would think you would be fine, but chewing and digestion already do a pretty good job of juicing your food as it is.
Can I put an ice cream sundae in a blender and have that on the diet? Because Coldstone makes some pretty good shakes I've been craving.
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How can you prove...where did you find...what possible...ugh my brain hurts now.We don't need nearly as much protein as Americans think we do and the reason a majority of Americans are oevrweight is because they eat too much junk...I think we can all agree on that.0 -
Oh how I love the debate this has caused! Thank you to all the supporters and also those that raise questions about the safety of the program! It educates us and promotes research. Please keep in mind that I will only be juicing for ten days.. it's not the end of the world or my health. When I'm hungry I will drink juice, when I'm thirsty I will drink juice. It will be tough, but it will be an opportunity to give my digestive system a break! I will keep you all posted on my progress.
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Breakfast Smoothie: Fresh banana, frozen blueberries, fresh ripe mango and water. Blended.0 -
I watched Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead a couple of weeks ago. Let me tell you, before watching I was NOT a fan of juice fasts. But this guy who went off all his meds and was full and people even said the juice tasted ok has made me wonder. I don't have a juicer but I plan to invest in one when I get the money and try it. Let me know how it goes and what recipes you use! Good luck
"There's a sucker born every minute" ~PT Barnum.
So you threw out your rational beliefs after watching a glorified info-mercial? Why?
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I'm not taking some other person's word for it. I did it. It worked for me. That's all the proof I need.
Here's the deal. Different things work for different people and that is okay. I don't eat meat, I would go so far as saying I don't think it's healthy, especially in large portions, but I'm not going to go on someone's post and start talking down to them and demanding scientific proof that their meat eating diet is good for them. If you eat a certain way and it works for you then that's great! Sometimes I think people need to take a step back and realize that there isn't necessarily only one right or wrong way to go about things.
Good luck to those that juice, and good luck to those that don't! I hope everyone finds what works best for them. 0 -
Sorry but anecdotes can lead people who are desperate to lose weight to try something like this that can be even worse than where they may be now. At least with scientific evidence, they have a chance to see how actual studies conclude results based studying it. It would be irresponsible to say that just because something worked for you, that it may work for someone else. If that person were a diabetic and didn't let you know that, what kind of danger would they be in if you recommended juicing? See why studies are important?I'm not taking some other person's word for it. I did it. It worked for me. That's all the proof I need.
Here's the deal. Different things work for different people and that is okay. I don't eat meat, I would go so far as saying I don't think it's healthy, especially in large portions, but I'm not going to go on someone's post and start talking down to them and demanding scientific proof that their meat eating diet is good for them. If you eat a certain way and it works for you then that's great! Sometimes I think people need to take a step back and realize that there isn't necessarily only one right or wrong way to go about things.
Good luck to those that juice, and good luck to those that don't! I hope everyone finds what works best for them.
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Hey there!
I have a few Juicing books myself. I bought a juicer read the literature and was all about it, until it actually came down to drinking it. If you have tasty recipes I would love to do a cleanse. I am just finishing renew life's all natural diet start cleanse. Its in capsule form and the dietary restrictions are pretty relaxed. I have been doing non-dairy fruit & veggie smoothies everyday though. I use coconut or hemp milk, fruit, veggies, spirullina, and a little bit of ice. I think the concept of juicing is great but I like smoothies because they offer more fiber. But I would like to do them both in combination.0 -
GOOOOO ORGANIC! yay, that was suppose to be a sort of cheer. In one of your comments you made a sarcastic remark about crops never being contaminated or sprayed...I forget your exact words and I have to say, I hear ya man! However, if you go organic your pesticide worries will abate. Have no fear organic is non-genetically engineered : ) or doused in harmful chemicals ; ) yes its more expensive but surely its worth it.0
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