A ham sandwich has the same calories as battered cod!

frillypantz

How the hell does that work?! I thought i'd be really good today and have a ham sandwich for lunch

....But it turns out it's the same calories as my battered cod that i thought was very unhealthy yesterday evening!! So I might as well have gone back to the chippy!!!! *sighs*

I'm so confuzed because i'd assume a sandwich would be healthier ;/

NickBanford

Just the fish or the chips to go with it too? Is the sandwich counting butter, mayo or any extras like that and what kind of bread?

frillypantz

No just the fish itself.

Just brown wholemeal bread (supposedly healthy)
Low fat vegetable spread (also supposedly healthy)
and just 2 ham slices at 33cals each

NickBanford

Yeah then I can see that being right. I used to eat ham sandwiches very often. I usually cut out the bread now and just have either a wrap or a ham salad. I know a few other people too who cut out bread as much as possible.

NickBanford

The other thing to note is you wouldn't just eat the fish on its own so it would probably make up a much higher calorie meal.

ElizabethRoad

Just because it has equal calories doesn't mean it's equally healthy. Twinkies are only like 100 calories, but that doesn't mean they make a healthy lunch.

frillypantz

but a wrap has the same calories as bread.... well at least the ones we have at home are

I wish i could cut out most of my carbs but i tend to get dizzy/lightheaded and irritable if i dont eat them often

NickBanford

Yeah very true! Salt and fat content are important to consider.

paulslimjonesbryant

look at fat content

NickBanford

Are you comparing the calories of one wrap to one piece of bread. I have a single wrap instead of two slices of bread and just fill it will salad and cucumber and things. Tends to fill me up as much as a sandwich. I guess I'm lucky as I haven't really been feeling hungry since I started cutting calories (quite sharply).

frillypantz

fat content is irrelevent as you'd still weigh the same after eating 1000cals or fat or 1000cals or carbs

frillypantz

my wraps say they are 190cals each

minnesota_deere

How the hell does that work?! I thought i'd be really good today and have a ham sandwich for lunch

....But it turns out it's the same calories as my battered cod that i thought was very unhealthy yesterday evening!! So I might as well have gone back to the chippy!!!! *sighs*

I'm so confuzed because i'd assume a sandwich would be healthier ;/

a bowl of captain crunch berries with 2% milk is more than mcdonalds big mac. that blew my mind. i am surprised that the media has not attacked the cereal companies yet, i get it, if you just have the suggested serving size it is bette,r but who can eat only 2 spoon fulls of captain crunch?

caramkoala

I know it sux doesn't it.

I had a light meal of cold meats and salad and a tiny bit of potato salad, came home and logged thinking i was a star and it was the same as if I had gotten Maccas!

You know now....

sjohnny

fat content is irrelevent as you'd still weigh the same after eating 1000cals or fat or 1000cals or carbs

Right but 1 gram of fat has 9 calories while 1 gram of carbs or protein have 4 calories. You could eat twice as much food for the same calories.

ElizabethRoad

fat content is irrelevent as you'd still weigh the same after eating 1000cals or fat or 1000cals or carbs

It's not irrelevant. You would weigh the same but health is not based solely on weight. You are the one talking about one being HEALTHIER than the other.

minnesota_deere

sara lee makes a 45calories per slice bread, it satisfy the carb cravings.

NickBanford

I'll have to check what my wraps are because I'm sure they're not that high. I'll get back to you.

MaximalLife

So, the obvious solution is to have BOTH!:bigsmile:
Maybe not at the same time, but remember, life is to be lived, so just enjoy your meals and think ahead.
Just plan what you'll eat the next day, look it up in the data base and decide if it's right for you.
There are no assumptions.
I've had my world rocked a few times eating things I thought were healthier than they ended up being.
It happens.

SteveTries

fat content is irrelevent as you'd still weigh the same after eating 1000cals or fat or 1000cals or carbs

Right but 1 gram of fat has 9 calories while 1 gram of carbs or protein have 4 calories. You could eat twice as much food for the same calories.

Spot on - which means you'll feel more full and therefore less likely to go back to fridge and end up eating more overall.

frillypantz

But your body burns fat faster than calories... and plus theres no bloated feeling

fasttrack27

fat content is irrelevent as you'd still weigh the same after eating 1000cals or fat or 1000cals or carbs

It's not irrelevant. You would weigh the same but health is not based solely on weight. You are the one talking about one being HEALTHIER than the other.

Right on! Gotta think about arteries, etc, not just the scale.

Nopedotjpeg

But your body burns fat faster than calories... and plus theres no bloated feeling

That's actually one of the other downfalls of fat with weight loss. Unlike fiber-rich carbs and protein it takes less work (read: calories burned) for your body to process the food. However, it can help with satiation as many people will probably point out.

InTenn

my wraps say they are 190cals each

I don't know what options you have where you live, but with a little research, I have found a lot of bread/wrap/lavash options under 100 calories here. Some as low as 40. If it were me, I would spend some time in the bread section just reading labels. But I'm here and don't know what your options are.

BelleEns

I've cut out bread in the week and have ryvita crackerbread instead. It's made a huge difference to my weightloss.

I hear you, though. Ham sandwich the same as fish from a chippy! Who'd have thought it?

mikeyrp

Can you post the cals you are working with?

My home made ham sandwich is about 250 Cals (I use medium sliced bread, no spread, 1 slice of ham and some low fat coleslaw)
Chip shop battered fish is very high in calories, I guess oven baked fish in breadcrumbs is lower - Fish fingers definitely are... but you need to eat something with them to feel full...

Most of the sandwiches you buy in a shop are +350 cals - but they can go up to 600 - read the packet before you buy!

pepermin

There's also the vitamins to be considered - I'll bet the multigrain bread has more of those.
For me there's also the "fullness factor" - the ham sandwich contains more food and will keep me full longer than a piece of fried fish.

TriedEverything

I find this absolutely amazing! Like you, I would have totally assumed the cod would be much more calorific. I eat sandwiches quite a lot on this diet, but have so far avoided the chippy because I thought it would use up my full days' calories.

Probably not a good idea to have battered cod every day, but once a week, for a treat - why not?!

PoohHugs2

Try Arnold or Prepridge Farm Sandwich Thins. They are 100 calorise, 5 grams of fiber, and are delicious. Although thin, they are still satisfying and make you feel like you're still haveing a sandwich.

mcbrika

I use Ole High Fiber/low carb wraps at 71 calories and 17g carbs.

frillypantz

my wraps say they are 190cals each

I don't know what options you have where you live, but with a little research, I have found a lot of bread/wrap/lavash options under 100 calories here. Some as low as 40. If it were me, I would spend some time in the bread section just reading labels. But I'm here and don't know what your options are.

There are wraps for 100 in the shops but there about the size of my hand lol