Why do people cut out fruit?

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  • MacMadame
    MacMadame Posts: 1,893 Member
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    I don't cut out fruit. But I limit it. That's because a lot of fruit choices are high in sugar and also because, if you aren't careful, you can add a lot more calories to your day eating a lot of fruit thinking it's "healthy" and therefore not a bad choice.

    But, the thing is, our bodies don't tend to do well with fructose and a fructose molecule is a fructose molecule whether it comes from a banana or a cookie. They do okay with a little. So I eat a little. Plus, the sugars in fruit are simple sugars which means they enter the bloodstream pretty fast and spike insulin (as others have mentioned). The fiber in the fruit helps with that somewhat but how much depends on the fruit.

    The other thing is, unlike a lot vegetables, some fruits are pretty high calories. A banana has around 100 calories (depending on its size) while a cup of raw broccoli has 30. It's pretty easy to eat a banana, but a cup of broccoli (uncooked) takes some time and some work.

    So I never limit veggies and I never find myself in a situation where I've eaten a lot more calories than I expected because I ate too many veggies. But I do limit fruits because I have found myself in situation where I went over my calories because I ate too much fruit, not realizing how many calories were in that particular kind.
  • MacMadame
    MacMadame Posts: 1,893 Member
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    Unless you are a diabetic..... EAT FRUIT!

    Or unless you want to avoid getting Diabetes--then limit it, South Beach (developed to help prevent Diabetes and Heart Disease) suggests 1-2 fruits/day.

    So how much fruit consumption would cause someone to get diabetes?
    And why would the CDC list eating fruit as a way to prevent diabetes?
    And why would you be taking nutritional advice from the CDC?
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
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    Unless you are a diabetic..... EAT FRUIT!

    Or unless you want to avoid getting Diabetes--then limit it, South Beach (developed to help prevent Diabetes and Heart Disease) suggests 1-2 fruits/day.

    So how much fruit consumption would cause someone to get diabetes?
    And why would the CDC list eating fruit as a way to prevent diabetes?
    And why would you be taking nutritional advice from the CDC?
    Because the CDC isn't trying to sell me a diet.

    ETA:
    Eat fruit, limit fruit, don't eat it--I honestly don't care--do whatever you want. But don't scare people into not eating something when there is SO much good, reliable research out there promoting the health benefits.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vegetables-full-story/index.html
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    And why would the CDC list eating fruit as a way to prevent diabetes?


    Where does the CDC say this? I am looking at a CDC page on diabetes prevention and it actually says:
    "Eat a variety of fruits and vegetables every day. "

    http://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/consumer/eatright.htm
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
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    How can I prevent diabetes?

    EAT MORE FRUITS, vegetables, beans, and whole grains
    • Buy and try a new fruit or vegetable every time you go outshopping for groceries.

    CHOOSE HEALTHIER MEALS
    • Change your high fat meals and snacks for fruits, vegetablesor nuts. Drink more water.

    http://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/pubs/pdf/prevent.pdf
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
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    a lot of people don't like them (like myself) so it's an easy thing to get rid of and therefore eat less calories. when i do rarely eat them, i don't count the calories so that i don't deter myself
    Your body counts the calories either way, if you log it or not.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    How can I prevent diabetes?

    EAT MORE FRUITS, vegetables, beans, and whole grains
    • Buy and try a new fruit or vegetable every time you go outshopping for groceries.

    CHOOSE HEALTHIER MEALS
    • Change your high fat meals and snacks for fruits, vegetablesor nuts. Drink more water.

    http://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/pubs/pdf/prevent.pdf

    I totally misread your earlier post. I thought you were saying that the CDC recommended NOT eating fruit to prevent it.
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
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    My body does not know the difference between those sugars, so I cut out most fruit
    I get my nutrition from vegetables and low sugar fruit like berries. High sugar fruit is not "healthy" food for me.
    Because people don't make the distinction between natural sugars (fruit) and refined sugars (processed foods). There is a very important difference in my opinion.
  • DavidNewOrleans
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    I cut it when I want to get cut. It has too much suger and like most sugary foods, it will make you crave it more. I would recommend it in the morning or before or after a workout, except when you are trying to get below 8% bodyfat. Then you need to watch all carbs, even the good ones.
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
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    by "people", I guess you mean my doctor, endocrinologists in general, and the multitude of studies that show insulin resistance causes weight gain?
    Because people have a misconception that insulin is the bad guy.

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
  • issyfit
    issyfit Posts: 1,077 Member
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    Well at least a few here agree with me on limiting fruit, not cutting it out entirely. I didn't say fruit causes Diabetes, but excess sugar in the diet can contribute to developing Diabetes and the fructose in fruit is sugar.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    by "people", I guess you mean my doctor, endocrinologists in general, and the multitude of studies that show insulin resistance causes weight gain?
    Because people have a misconception that insulin is the bad guy.

    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

    You are talking about a minority of people that have insulin resistance though
    Well at least a few here agree with me on limiting fruit, not cutting it out entirely. I didn't say fruit causes Diabetes, but excess sugar in the diet can contribute to developing Diabetes and the fructose in fruit is sugar.

    "Myth: Eating too much sugar causes diabetes.

    Fact: No, it does not. Type 1 diabetes is caused by genetics and unknown factors that trigger the onset of the disease; type 2 diabetes is caused by genetics and lifestyle factors. Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories, whether from sugar or from fat, can contribute to weight gain. If you have a history of diabetes in your family, eating a healthy meal plan and regular exercise are recommended to manage your weight."

    http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/
  • hml1976
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    Sugar may not cause diabetes but there is some interesting new research that indicates excess sugar may mess with hormone levels, liver damage, and may even cause some cancers. That doesn't mean we shouldn't eat any fruit but I do think its smart to be aware of just how much sugar you're eating every day.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

    http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/01/should-we-regulate-sugar/?scp=2&sq= sugar&st=cse
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Sugar may not cause diabetes but there is some interesting new research that indicates excess sugar may mess with hormone levels, liver damage, and may even cause some cancers. That doesn't mean we shouldn't eat any fruit but I do think its smart to be aware of just how much sugar you're eating every day.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

    http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/01/should-we-regulate-sugar/?scp=2&sq= sugar&st=cse

    Ar article by Taubes, talking about Lustig's presentation among other things?

    lolololol
  • littlemsmuffet
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    Because people don't make the distinction between natural sugars (fruit) and refined sugars (processed foods). There is a very important difference in my opinion.

    There is no difference. Sugar is sugar in the body.

    :flowerforyou:
  • melrose09
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    The fructose in fruit does raise blood sugar. On South Beach we are encouraged to eat some protein or fat with our fruit to slow its digestion, and to choose fruits lower in sugar.

    I could totally be down with some PB and apples. One of my favorite snacks!
  • wftiger
    wftiger Posts: 1,283 Member
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    Carbs and sugar. And even if they are "healthy" when you have high blood sugar they can damage your health more than they can ever do good for you.

    When you have high blood sugar you have to limit those items by Doctor's orders not because you so choose to do so.

    People should stop judging others. Everyone jumps on the bandwagon that we are ignorant and do it because we do not know a difference between types of sugar. Well guess what? Neither does your body. Sugar is sugar. I am not going to lose a limb to eat an orange.
  • andersonaj88
    andersonaj88 Posts: 2 Member
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    Fruit can be good and bad for you. I am very carb sensitive. I have chosen to limit my fruit when I am in a weight loss mode. I enjoy more fruit when I am in a stabilization mode. The secret to eating fruit , eat it before 2 pm. It gives my body time to metabolize the sugars before bed time.
  • sandy2006
    sandy2006 Posts: 483 Member
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    I dont eat fruit, it makes me hungry. If I eat an apple I am starving in 30 minutes and wished I had went for a protein snack.
  • Di3012
    Di3012 Posts: 2,250 Member
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    Is it the carbs, the sugar? I was under the impression those things aren't that bad for you. I mean, it's fruit. I'd be devastated if someone told me to lose weight I had to stop eating apples and kiwi.

    .....Do I?

    Fruit is my replacement for sweets and cakes and I love it, I adore oranges and eat three or four per day.

    If someone were to order me to cut out fruit I would most likely faint with shock!