Protein Intake

sparkey1
sparkey1 Posts: 3
edited September 19 in Food and Nutrition
I love this tracking program, I just do not agree with the protein amount suggested. I have been a competitive powerlifter for the last 10 years and I have to strive to get a mininum!!!! of 1 gram of protein to one pound of body weight.


Comments??



Shayne

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  • sparkey1
    sparkey1 Posts: 3
    I love this tracking program, I just do not agree with the protein amount suggested. I have been a competitive powerlifter for the last 10 years and I have to strive to get a mininum!!!! of 1 gram of protein to one pound of body weight.


    Comments??



    Shayne
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    the MFP guidelines for proteins carbs etc are very general in nature and not specific to anyone especially to a power lifter

    I ignore the MFP guidelines for the protein, etc

    you can customize them if you wish to change your ratios
  • angelinaz
    angelinaz Posts: 262
    Just go in and customize your settings! I did!!!!! :smile:
  • hiddensecant
    hiddensecant Posts: 2,446 Member
    Yah, customize .. I think very few people here follow the protein recommendations and a lot of us just bump over %carbs into %proteins so it doesn't try to tell us we're "going over".
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    I love this tracking program, I just do not agree with the protein amount suggested. I have been a competitive powerlifter for the last 10 years and I have to strive to get a mininum!!!! of 1 gram of protein to one pound of body weight.


    Comments??



    Shayne

    You can manually change it to whatever amount you like, but as powerlifting uses ATP and creatine alone, I don't see how more than 1g of protein/lb of BW is going to help. If you eat enough carbohydrates and fat to spare the protein for muscle growth/repair, there's no need for excessive protein intake. MFP uses the RDA of protein, but the ACSM recommends 1.4-1.7g/kg of bodyweight for muscle building. Excess protein will be used for glucose production to make up for insufficient carbohydrate consumption, it won't result in extra muscle building. :smile:
  • jenken99
    jenken99 Posts: 564 Member
    the class a friend of mine has taken they nutritionists there said the more protein you eat the less body fat you will end up with your body is what you eat the more fat you eat says it and the protein is better for you...
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    the class a friend of mine has taken they nutritionists there said the more protein you eat the less body fat you will end up with your body is what you eat the more fat you eat says it and the protein is better for you...

    That doesn't make much sense. Does that mean I can eat 400g of protein a day and magically lose fat even if I am eating 1600 calories and just sitting on my behind all day?:huh:
  • hiddensecant
    hiddensecant Posts: 2,446 Member
    the class a friend of mine has taken they nutritionists there said the more protein you eat the less body fat you will end up with your body is what you eat the more fat you eat says it and the protein is better for you...

    Moderate protein diets have more protein than most "standard" diets which will help lose fat more than a diet with the same amount of calories and more carb.

    So it's kinda true, but only to a point. A balanced diet with good carbs are essential to that equation to keep those muscles fed and burning fat.

    When you go on diets like atkins and excessively deprive the body of essential carbs, you will burn some fat but your body is also eating a lot of muscle and most of the "weight" loss is going to be water, especially in the beginning.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    this poor guy asks us what time it is and we are gonna build him a watch
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    the class a friend of mine has taken they nutritionists there said the more protein you eat the less body fat you will end up with your body is what you eat the more fat you eat says it and the protein is better for you...

    Moderate protein diets have more protein than most "standard" diets which will help lose fat more than a diet with the same amount of calories and more carb.

    So it's kinda true, but only to a point. A balanced diet with good carbs are essential to that equation to keep those muscles fed and burning fat.

    When you go on diets like atkins and excessively deprive the body of essential carbs, you will burn some fat but your body is also eating a lot of muscle and most of the "weight" loss is going to be water, especially in the beginning.

    Moderate protein diets haven't proven any more effective than diets containing the RDA of protein, actually.
  • this poor guy asks us what time it is and we are gonna build him a watch

    LOL!:laugh:
  • hiddensecant
    hiddensecant Posts: 2,446 Member
    Moderate protein diets haven't proven any more effective than diets containing the RDA of protein, actually.

    MFP had me at 40g of protein and 165g of carbs ... I'd be starving all day if I stuck to that and certainly wouldn't be exercising.
  • hiddensecant
    hiddensecant Posts: 2,446 Member
    I love this tracking program, I just do not agree with the protein amount suggested. I have been a competitive powerlifter for the last 10 years and I have to strive to get a mininum!!!! of 1 gram of protein to one pound of body weight.


    Comments??



    Shayne

    Yeah, 1g per pound is good when you're bodybuilding.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    Moderate protein diets haven't proven any more effective than diets containing the RDA of protein, actually.

    MFP had me at 20g of protein and 150g of carbs ... I'd be starving all day if I stuck to that and certainly wouldn't be exercising.

    Feelings of satiety are generally promoted by fat and fiber more than protein because fiber creates bulk and fat promotes the release of a neuropeptide that reduces hunger.
  • hiddensecant
    hiddensecant Posts: 2,446 Member
    1g per pound of protein is perfectly fine.

    I have about 0.6g per pound which is considered moderate.
  • angelinaz
    angelinaz Posts: 262
    I have a friend who is a Swiss watchmaker, Dave!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    I have a friend who is a Swiss watchmaker, Dave!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    LOL

    this guy who asked a simple quesion is prolly screaming and pulling his hair out

    welcome to MFP:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • mrsyac2
    mrsyac2 Posts: 2,784 Member
    I love this tracking program, I just do not agree with the protein amount suggested. I have been a competitive powerlifter for the last 10 years and I have to strive to get a mininum!!!! of 1 gram of protein to one pound of body weight.


    Comments??



    Shayne

    If your a competetive powerlifter than you should know what you need- You must remember MFP is just a "Guide" if you need more protein than eat it-

    but the amounts listed in all catergories are off that is why I am constantl saying the MFP is a guide and people may need to tweak it to there needs
  • jenken99
    jenken99 Posts: 564 Member
    all i have to say is your body is what you make of it,, if you eat alot of fat:huh: :huh: :huh: well then??????
  • arutherf
    arutherf Posts: 29 Member
    In my university health education class, we were told that everyone should get 1g of protein per 1kg of body weight a day. One gram of protein per 1 pound of body weight seems very high and unrealistic. We were also told that if your body doesn't use up all the protein it takes in, it will turn into fat storage cells regardless, just like carbohydrates. I set my goals to match my protein percentage based on my body weight in kilograms, and then adjusted the fat percentage to 15%, the lowest percentage of fat your body should take in in a day, and then the rest went to carbohydrates.
  • gflynt
    gflynt Posts: 32 Member
    this poor guy asks us what time it is and we are gonna build him a watch


    Actually, Dave, the poster did not ask a question. He simply stated that he disagrees with the suggested amount of protein that MFP gave him because he is a "powerlifter." He then requested comments on this opinion.

    Comments is what he got.
  • rickykc
    rickykc Posts: 1
    many sites, books, people, etc. recommend 1 GRAM intake of protein per pound of your body weight.... that means a 180 pound man should take in somewhere close to 170-185 grams of the stuff. you should be getting most of it from powders and shakes....but remember..... if you are going to follow this exact guideline..... you may want to opt for something like soy protein powder because whey protein powder, egg protein( and any other form of protein that comes from animals or animal products)...has a lot of cholesterol... whey protein has about 22% of your cholesterol needs in every serving.... BUT you must remember that this guideline should ONLY be followed if you take part in extensive wight training, exercise, and other VERY demanding physical activities.... or else your body will most likely reject it, you will become sick, and all of that protein will go to waste....... etc...

    my protein powder intake is this every day

    Morning: i will put protein powder in milk/water/ or shake ( with fruit juice, low fat yogurt, fruits, and ice cubes) and have it with breakfast.... the protein intake will be about 27grams (thats one scoop of my powder)

    Lunch time: again i will have one more scoop (another 27 grams) and have lunch

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    Late After noon/ Early evening: have another two scoops (another 54 grams) POST WORK OUT....ALWAYS take a protein shake or drink AFTER a workout.

    THis is a total 108 grams....and the rest comes from the other protein sources(ie: meat, peanut butter, eggs whites, etc)
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    many sites, books, people, etc. recommend 1 GRAM intake of protein per pound of your body weight.... that means a 180 pound man should take in somewhere close to 170-185 grams of the stuff. you should be getting most of it from powders and shakes....but remember..... if you are going to follow this exact guideline..... you may want to opt for something like soy protein powder because whey protein powder, egg protein( and any other form of protein that comes from animals or animal products)...has a lot of cholesterol... whey protein has about 22% of your cholesterol needs in every serving.... BUT you must remember that this guideline should ONLY be followed if you take part in extensive wight training, exercise, and other VERY demanding physical activities.... or else your body will most likely reject it, you will become sick, and all of that protein will go to waste....... etc...

    my protein powder intake is this every day

    Morning: i will put protein powder in milk/water/ or shake ( with fruit juice, low fat yogurt, fruits, and ice cubes) and have it with breakfast.... the protein intake will be about 27grams (thats one scoop of my powder)

    Lunch time: again i will have one more scoop (another 27 grams) and have lunch

    t

    Late After noon/ Early evening: have another two scoops (another 54 grams) POST WORK OUT....ALWAYS take a protein shake or drink AFTER a workout.

    THis is a total 108 grams....and the rest comes from the other protein sources(ie: meat, peanut butter, eggs whites, etc)

    Actually most should come from NATURAL sources, and the only sites/books/people that recommend one 1g per lb are fitness magazines and paid bodybuilders who, in large part, abuse GH because only the INBF actually does rigorous testing for their shows. And why do they promote that much protein? So people who don't know any better will go out and buy the whey protein from the companies that sponsor and pay for their competitions.

    Soy protein powder isn't going to contain the full array of amino acids like animal products will, not to mention there is some evidence that the phytoestrogens may negatively effect males if consumed in large amounts. Not to mention that living off protein power will be far more expensive than getting protein from your normal diet.

    No offense, but it sounds like you got all this information from Muscle & Fitness mag.
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