Question about weights and cardio.

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I am going to start lifting weights soon. I am buying into the whole concept of heavy lifting for women. I plan to fuel my body properly and lift regularly. I know some people that disregard all cardio when they take on this mentality and I'm trying to figure out what a good balance for me will be. Does anyone have suggestions as to how much cardio they would aim for weekly? I very clearly still have fat to lose (likely around 30 pounds of it, give or take) so it's not like there is just an extra pound or two of fat sitting on me. Any suggestions would be welcome :)
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  • Mera_Mera
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    I do 30-40 minutes every day except Saturdays. On M-W-F (non-consecutive days), I do 15-20 minutes of strength training per muscle group (abs, upper and lower body?. Basically, I do 60 minutes in total of weight training (three times a week) and I run every day for 30-40 minutes. That equals to 180- 240 minutes of cardio. I hope this helped.
  • lisao62
    lisao62 Posts: 80 Member
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  • mskari77
    mskari77 Posts: 142
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    I strength train (heavy weight) 5 days a week, hitting a different body part each day; chest, back, shoulders, arms, legs...in that order with a day off after back and after arms. I work in abs 3-4 days a week in between sets mostly. I also do at least an hour of cardio a day after weight training 6 days a week. It varies from walking on the treadmill, stationary, and stair machine. Always do cardio after weight training, so you have enough energy to get through your workout.
  • andersonaj88
    andersonaj88 Posts: 2 Member
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    I am working with a trainer. Who believes a higher heart rate during strength training helps reduce fat faster. I do 20-30 minutes of cardio before lifting. It really seems to be taking off the inches. On my cardio only days, I do a minimum of 60 minutes.
  • mommymeg2
    mommymeg2 Posts: 145 Member
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    I know I won't be able to do it every day. As it stands I don't do any (aside from chasing around a 3 and 2 year old all day every day :) ) but I don't want it to be the focus of my workout either. I guess I might be asking more...is it really THAT necessary.
  • SteveHunt113
    SteveHunt113 Posts: 648 Member
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    You're going to find a lot of different opinions, so I hope you are ready to weed through them!

    I'm curious: why are you looking at doing heavy weights? What are your goals?

    Understanding what is you are trying to achieve is important. Cardio should be done if you are trying to create a larger caloric deficit, or if you are trying to improve your cardiovascular health. And the type/amount will depend on your goals.

    I spent about 10 years in the gym lifting heavy 3-5 days per week, and doing 30-60 minutes of cardio. Regardless of the combination I was doing, I really didn't see any significant changes. I also had no real goals or plan.

    In mid December I decided I needed to lose weight, so I started doing cardio first, and for longer (45 minutes instead of 30). I also reduced my weight since I was now more tired when I started the lifting. I started to lose weight, but then completely changed my routine. Instead of lifting 5 days/week I changed to 3 days/week. Instead of doing heavy weight I do lighter weights in circuits. In between days, I do interval cardio that lasts no more than 35 minutes INCLUDING WARM UP AND COOL DOWN.

    I changed because my goals have been refined: reduced body fat, fit muscles (don't need to be huge), and able to have the stamina to do whatever I want to do. My picture is a week old and I'm starting to see the body I want. As for my fitness level, I've never been more fit! My resting heart rate has dropped to 52 from 60.

    So, I probably didn't answer your question, but maybe you have something to at least think about. :)
  • nutandbutter
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    I don't do any right now. I might add in 20 minutes of HIIT 1-2 x/wk in a few more weeks. It really depends on if I feel like doing it or not. Cardio isn't necessary as your primary caloric deficit should be coming from your diet. 2 reasons I don't do it: 1) I don't like it and 2) it makes me super hungry. I would rather not run for 20 minutes just so I can have an extra 200 calories to eat. Another note, I set my own calories so I'm not sitting at 1200 calories. I am actually at something more sustainable (1600) since I don't have much to lose (starting a recomp). The best thing you could do for yourself is to figure out your own maintenance calories because then you know what your target calories should be. Google katch mcardle.
  • getalife9353
    getalife9353 Posts: 100 Member
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    I am doing strength training 2 days per week and cardio 2 days per week and participate in "active" life style on the weekends
    Strength - Monday and Wednesday
    Cardio (intervals) - Tuesday and Thursday
    On the weekends I stay active with cycling, kayaking, or hiking. I don't consider it as exercise, but in reality I burn more calories doing my weekend activities then I do with planned "exercise".
  • mommymeg2
    mommymeg2 Posts: 145 Member
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    My overall goal is health. Cliche, yes, but it is. My husband and I eat well (well 85% of the time) and by well I mean clean, whole, organic foods. (If you look at my diary this week is not the best example...) Physically I want to look more muscular than thin but don't want to be "rock hard" regardless of muscle size. The 22 pounds I've lost thus far has been on diet alone. I started at eating 1230 and upped it to 1430 and don't mind bouncing around to keep my body guessing.

    So, I guess my goal is to not look "thin" but to look defined. I do want to weigh less, of course, and be down about 30 pounds before we try and have another baby. That would still put me around 150 (I'm okay above that as well, it's just an easy number to focus on) and with muscle and fat loss I feel that is a reasonable weight (I'm 5'6")
  • NancyNiles
    NancyNiles Posts: 145 Member
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    I do a mix of cardio and strength three days a week. My trainer said to do 10 minutes of cardio to start.... that's to get my heart rate up and loosen me up to prevent injury. I don't skip that part. Then I do 30 minutes of circuit weight training, 3 sets of 10 reps on each machine (upper body one day, then lower, then abs). Then I do the fastest mile I can crack out on the recumbent bike. Because you burn more fat going full out for a short period of time (2-5 minutes), than taking an easy pace for an hour. Plus, weight lifting has residual benefits... as your body starts to "repair" your muscles, you continue to burn calories for quite awhile after you finish exercising! Just make sure you eat some protein (half a PB sandwich, Snackwells bar, greek yogurt) within 15 minutes of strength training because your body needs that protein to build lean muscle tissue. For every 3 lbs of lean muscle you add, your body burns an extra 120 calories per day.

    That said, I have been at this for a month and haven't lost a single pound. I was frustrated at first, but noticed that my pants are looser and figured out that I was replacing fat with muscle and dropping inches. I'm still holding out hope that next month I'll see some actual poundage loss.
  • jrusso28
    jrusso28 Posts: 249 Member
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    I would do whatever works for you.
    Its a great idea to introduce both cardio and strength training into anyone's routine.

    If you plan on exercising 2 or 3 days a week, alternate between the two.
    One day weights the next cardio.

    No matter how you shake it, it will be better than what you have been doing so far.
    As you progress, you might add some time to your workouts and do cardio for 30 minutes and then weights to focus on upper body on one day, then cardio for 30 minutes and weights to focus on lower body another day.

    Basically work your way through it slowly.

    Hope this helped ???
  • nutandbutter
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    I don't do any right now. I might add in 20 minutes of HIIT 1-2 x/wk in a few more weeks. It really depends on if I feel like doing it or not. Cardio isn't necessary as your primary caloric deficit should be coming from your diet. 2 reasons I don't do it: 1) I don't like it and 2) it makes me super hungry. I would rather not run for 20 minutes just so I can have an extra 200 calories to eat. Another note, I set my own calories so I'm not sitting at 1200 calories. I am actually at something more sustainable (1600) since I don't have much to lose (starting a recomp). The best thing you could do for yourself is to figure out your own maintenance calories because then you know what your target calories should be. Google katch mcardle.

    Actually, just check out this thread.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/491087-my-gift-excel-spreadsheet-for-bmr-tdee-cut-build-and-ma
  • SteveHunt113
    SteveHunt113 Posts: 648 Member
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    Something else to keep in mind: to make your workout more affective, you want to change them up from time to time. If you stick with the same workout all the time, you body gets good at it and you see less results.
  • nutandbutter
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    You're going to find a lot of different opinions, so I hope you are ready to weed through them!

    I'm curious: why are you looking at doing heavy weights? What are your goals?

    Understanding what is you are trying to achieve is important. Cardio should be done if you are trying to create a larger caloric deficit, or if you are trying to improve your cardiovascular health. And the type/amount will depend on your goals.

    I spent about 10 years in the gym lifting heavy 3-5 days per week, and doing 30-60 minutes of cardio. Regardless of the combination I was doing, I really didn't see any significant changes. I also had no real goals or plan.

    In mid December I decided I needed to lose weight, so I started doing cardio first, and for longer (45 minutes instead of 30). I also reduced my weight since I was now more tired when I started the lifting. I started to lose weight, but then completely changed my routine. Instead of lifting 5 days/week I changed to 3 days/week. Instead of doing heavy weight I do lighter weights in circuits. In between days, I do interval cardio that lasts no more than 35 minutes INCLUDING WARM UP AND COOL DOWN.

    I changed because my goals have been refined: reduced body fat, fit muscles (don't need to be huge), and able to have the stamina to do whatever I want to do. My picture is a week old and I'm starting to see the body I want. As for my fitness level, I've never been more fit! My resting heart rate has dropped to 52 from 60.

    So, I probably didn't answer your question, but maybe you have something to at least think about. :)

    Not trying to call you out but according to your profile, you weren't counting calories at the time you were lifting heavy. You were just eating whatever you wanted. You can't really compare results since diet is primary when it comes to weight loss.
  • nutandbutter
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    Something else to keep in mind: to make your workout more affective, you want to change them up from time to time. If you stick with the same workout all the time, you body gets good at it and you see less results.

    That's why you add weight to your lifts.
  • atjays
    atjays Posts: 798 Member
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    You're supposed to allow 48-72 hours for your muscles to heal following most lifting programs depending on your age (older takes longer). This will only allow you to do this 2-3 times a week. There is nothing wrong with cardio on the other days. My current schedule I am alternating weights/cardio every day with 1 day off a week. Allows 48 hours for my upper body to recover from weights and 48 hours for my legs to recover from cardio. Works out pretty well for me.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
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    I am going to start lifting weights soon. I am buying into the whole concept of heavy lifting for women. I plan to fuel my body properly and lift regularly. I know some people that disregard all cardio when they take on this mentality and I'm trying to figure out what a good balance for me will be. Does anyone have suggestions as to how much cardio they would aim for weekly? I very clearly still have fat to lose (likely around 30 pounds of it, give or take) so it's not like there is just an extra pound or two of fat sitting on me. Any suggestions would be welcome :)
    The problem is that people use cardio as a means of creating a calorie deficit. Nutrition should be the first choice in creating a deficit. For improving body composition, intense and heavy weight training is the way to go. Another benefit is that weight training provides cardio benefits.

    So let's recap:
    1. Calorie deficit through diet.
    2. Train heavy.
    3. Don't use cardio as a means of creating a deficit. If you have to do so, I suggest you check your diet again.

    The benefits of walking outweigh any form of intense cardio. With walking you release the fat burning hormones (sensitive lipase and catecholamines).

    Now, before anyone says anything. HIIT is not cardio, it's actually ALMOST a weight training session, because it'a an Anaerobic and not an Aerobic exercise.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
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    You're going to find a lot of different opinions, so I hope you are ready to weed through them!

    I'm curious: why are you looking at doing heavy weights? What are your goals?

    Understanding what is you are trying to achieve is important. Cardio should be done if you are trying to create a larger caloric deficit, or if you are trying to improve your cardiovascular health. And the type/amount will depend on your goals.

    I spent about 10 years in the gym lifting heavy 3-5 days per week, and doing 30-60 minutes of cardio. Regardless of the combination I was doing, I really didn't see any significant changes. I also had no real goals or plan.

    In mid December I decided I needed to lose weight, so I started doing cardio first, and for longer (45 minutes instead of 30). I also reduced my weight since I was now more tired when I started the lifting. I started to lose weight, but then completely changed my routine. Instead of lifting 5 days/week I changed to 3 days/week. Instead of doing heavy weight I do lighter weights in circuits. In between days, I do interval cardio that lasts no more than 35 minutes INCLUDING WARM UP AND COOL DOWN.

    I changed because my goals have been refined: reduced body fat, fit muscles (don't need to be huge), and able to have the stamina to do whatever I want to do. My picture is a week old and I'm starting to see the body I want. As for my fitness level, I've never been more fit! My resting heart rate has dropped to 52 from 60.

    So, I probably didn't answer your question, but maybe you have something to at least think about. :)

    Your diet sucks if you are using "cardio to create a calorie defecit". Just stop eating and profit.
  • lovinmysoldier
    lovinmysoldier Posts: 156 Member
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    To start do 2-3 days of strength and keep it simple. Check out www.intense-workout.com
  • SteveHunt113
    SteveHunt113 Posts: 648 Member
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    The benefits of walking outweigh any form of intense cardio. With walking you release the fat burning hormones (sensitive lipase and catecholamines).

    I think you are a little off on this one. For starters, fat burning will happen no matter what, but lower hear rate exercises do burn I higher percentage of fat burning. Problem is that you have to spend MORE time to burn the same amount of fat as you would doing high intensity cardio.

    Second, you do nothing for your athleticism if you are just walking. My wife is a walker, I do interval cardio. She gets tired easy, I don't.