80% Engine

BigGuy47

Gee, I have almost lost 100 lbs with this strategy. Wonder how everyone else did their way???

I lost over 115 lbs. my way (a calorie deificit, resistance training and light cardio).

Gee, maybe I'm doing it all wrong.

stumblinthrulife

Wasn't there some other well documented strategy that Lance Armstrong used also? It's on the tip of my tongue, but I can't quite get there....

bpotts44

Your body will burn fat in caloric deficit. If you want to exercise using low impact training that is fine, but others have run, cycled, lifted or whatevered, but they all dieted their way to being lean by taking in less calories than they burned. There is no magic in what you are saying.

Pearsquared

Alright! First a little background. As a person ages, their TZ or target zone will change. The way to calculate your own personal TZ is to subtract your age from 220. You then multiply 60% by that number. That is the low end of your target zone. Take the same number and multiply it times 80%. That is the high end of your TZ. If you are in really good shape, you can go to 65% and 85%.
Here is an example:
220 - 56 (my age) = 164
164 X .60 = 98 (my low TZ)
164 X .80 = 131 (my high TZ)
The TZ applies to your heartbeat
Now there are three types of exercise: Aerobic, Anabolic, and Canabolic
You guys can look up detailed explanations if you wish.
Briefly, they are:
Canabolic - The body actually starts to destroy muscle mass.
Anabolic - This is the phase that actually builds muscle
Aerobic - This is the phase that tones muscle and the one we will be concerned about.
Have you every noticed that you get that muscle burn if you start to push things? That is lactate acid build-up and means that your aerobic exercise has now become Anabolic, and you have stopped burning fat. If you are weight training you want that Anabolic burn to build muscle. Not to burn fat.
The way to use the 80% engine is to exercise in the bottom 10% range of your lower target zone. This does not allow the body to burn carbs, it will only burn fat. Lance Armstrong made this tactic popular several years ago. He called his fat "engine" his 80% engine and the carb engine his 20%. The neat thing about burning fat is that when you start doing this you will have much more stamina. The carb engine can be used for sprints, hills, etc.. As a weight loss tactic, the 80% engine works well for loosing the unwanted pounds and inches. As you start to do this, you may find it hard to keep your heartbeat down into the lower 10% of your TZ. Give it a try!

chrisdavey

Your body will burn fat in caloric deficit. If you want to exercise using low impact training that is fine, but others have run, cycled, lifted or whatevered, but they all dieted their way to being lean by taking in less calories than they burned. There is no magic in what you are saying.

took the words right out of my mouth

jonnythan

"Canabolic."



You could almost think it was a typo.... but then he typed it again...

jwdieter

I thought this TZ approach came and went in the 80s-90s.

jonnythan

I thought this TZ approach came and went in the 80s-90s.

Pretty much. It's silly. There are plenty enough things to worry about without this.

Azdak

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mreeves261

Alright! First a little background. As a person ages, their TZ or target zone will change. The way to calculate your own personal TZ is to subtract your age from 220. You then multiply 60% by that number. That is the low end of your target zone. Take the same number and multiply it times 80%. That is the high end of your TZ. If you are in really good shape, you can go to 65% and 85%.
Here is an example:
220 - 56 (my age) = 164
164 X .60 = 98 (my low TZ)
164 X .80 = 131 (my high TZ)
The TZ applies to your heartbeat
Now there are three types of exercise: Aerobic, Anabolic, and Canabolic
You guys can look up detailed explanations if you wish.
Briefly, they are:
Canabolic - The body actually starts to destroy muscle mass.
Anabolic - This is the phase that actually builds muscle
Aerobic - This is the phase that tones muscle and the one we will be concerned about.
Have you every noticed that you get that muscle burn if you start to push things? That is lactate acid build-up and means that your aerobic exercise has now become Anabolic, and you have stopped burning fat. If you are weight training you want that Anabolic burn to build muscle. Not to burn fat.
The way to use the 80% engine is to exercise in the bottom 10% range of your lower target zone. This does not allow the body to burn carbs, it will only burn fat. Lance Armstrong made this tactic popular several years ago. He called his fat "engine" his 80% engine and the carb engine his 20%. The neat thing about burning fat is that when you start doing this you will have much more stamina. The carb engine can be used for sprints, hills, etc.. As a weight loss tactic, the 80% engine works well for loosing the unwanted pounds and inches. As you start to do this, you may find it hard to keep your heartbeat down into the lower 10% of your TZ. Give it a try!

Well first, intense exercise produces lactate not lactic acid. This lactate is a result of acidosis not the cause, and is actually beneficial for the cell as it helps slow cellular acidosis.

Anabolic and "canobolic" (catabolic) states are a result of diet/exercise, not types of exercise.

Anyone that uses the word "tone" should be slapped.

You're right, "the burn" is a sign that you're working primarily "anabolic" (anaerobically), but does not mean you've stopped "burning fat."

Go study your medically books again because your body is always using all three energy systems, regardless of what "zone" you're training in.

Sigh....I just fell in love.