Barefoot runners?

msarro

Just curious, do any of you run barefoot? Supposedly its actually better for your body than running with shoes, and barefoot runners actually are less likely to sustain running related injuries.

msarro

Just curious, do any of you run barefoot? Supposedly its actually better for your body than running with shoes, and barefoot runners actually are less likely to sustain running related injuries.

Shannon023

Maybe if you were running on sand it would be okay, but I wouldn't want to risk getting my feet all cut up running on pavement. :noway:

firewalking

I suppose someone, somewhere said it was a good idea..and there may even be a study which backs it up - but I personally would rather chew on chards of broken glass. Seriously - that seems so insane to me! :noway:

I am so curious now! I can't wait to check this post again....

In fact, i may just try this on a treadmill tomorrow. Thanks for the info!

iftcheiaf

I suppose someone, somewhere said it was a good idea..and there may even be a study which backs it up - but I personally would rather chew on chards of broken glass. Seriously - that seems so insane to me! :noway:

I am so curious now! I can't wait to check this post again....

In fact, i may just try this on a treadmill tomorrow. Thanks for the info!

If you try it tomorrow, maybe hold off on the broken glass bit. Unfamiliar footing could make you choke...

SHBoss1673

cut up or turn an ankle. All it takes is one marble sized pebble in the wrong place.

Remember, our feet are designed for SPRINTING not for long runs, we don't balance all that greatly when we jog, nor are our bodies aligned very well for it. Running shoes eliminate much of this issue by providing almost 3 times the surface area that makes contact with the ground. Want proof? get a piece of construction paper, wet your foot (with a sponge, lightly) then step on it quickly. Look at the outline. You'll notice that almost 1/2 your foot doesn't make contact with the ground. now wet the bottom of a running shoe and do the same thing. Crazy, huh?

Dave198lbs

Just curious, do any of you run barefoot? Supposedly its actually better for your body than running with shoes, and barefoot runners actually are less likely to sustain running related injuries.

doesn't pass the smell test for me....

I cant imagine running barefoot unless like Shannon said it is on sand

better for your body? twisted ankles..cut feet...I dont get it

so....no...I dont do it and will refuse to do it unless forced by angry mobs in the Amazon

since I have no plans to visit the Amazon soon...no

msarro

Strangely though, arguably the world's greatest runners - Kenyans - run almost exclusively barefoot. I agree that the science doesn't seem to support it, but in practice the evidence is there.

It could be that so much use of bare feet makes them leathery and tough? The same concept exists in Shaolin Kung Fu, where repetitive impact toughens skin over time (ie: punching a piece of paper that's taped to a brick wall until you punch through the paper).

jtintx

Remember, our feet are designed for SPRINTING not for long runs, we don't balance all that greatly when we jog, nor are our bodies aligned very well for it.

I'd be curious where you got this info.

I saw a production by NOVA that talked about man back in the good ol' days when he had to literally chase down his food. They said that man is designed for endurance and that way back when man actually ran his prey to death. Yep, you heard right....he would chase an animal (their example was an antelope) for so long that it would actually expire. Seems like they are built for speed and that you can actually run them till they die. I'm not stating this as fact....just repeating what they said on NOVA.

Edited to correct spelling.

Shannon023

Strangely though, arguably the world's greatest runners - Kenyans - run almost exclusively barefoot. I agree that the science doesn't seem to support it, but in practice the evidence is there.

I'd run fast too with a lion chasing me. :laugh:

I'm guessing they go without shoes frequently there so their feet are a lot tougher then ours. :huh:

msarro

Strangely though, arguably the world's greatest runners - Kenyans - run almost exclusively barefoot. I agree that the science doesn't seem to support it, but in practice the evidence is there.

I'd run fast too with a lion chasing me. :laugh:

I'm guessing they go without shoes frequently there so their feet are a lot tougher then ours. :huh:

I'm thinking thats the case. Plus since they're forced to grow up running barefoot, they learn to run with better form than people who have grown up with shoes protecting their feet. Shoes lead to improper running form, which leads to injuries.

jtintx

Found the NOVA thing online.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/marathon/program.html

What I was talking about is in Chapter 3....just past the halfway point. Correction: They ran the animals to heat exhaustion not death....near death....close enough.

ivykivy

I do aerobics barefoot and it has helped strengthen the feet.

I have had the opportunity to spend time with refugees. One lady wore her shoes only for show. When she had to walk a long way she took them off. It is amazing how strong the feet are. I guess that is why they call us lazy and wimpy americans.

Dave198lbs

Strangely though, arguably the world's greatest runners - Kenyans - run almost exclusively barefoot. I agree that the science doesn't seem to support it, but in practice the evidence is there.

I'd run fast too with a lion chasing me. :laugh:

I'm guessing they go without shoes frequently there so their feet are a lot tougher then ours. :huh:

I'm thinking thats the case. Plus since they're forced to grow up running barefoot, they learn to run with better form than people who have grown up with shoes protecting their feet. Shoes lead to improper running form, which leads to injuries.

this is interesting..."shoes lead to improper running form"

I suppose hi heels or pumps might...but I dont wear those

where the heck are you getting this info? Fox News?

SHBoss1673

Remember, our feet are designed for SPRINTING not for long runs, we don't balance all that greatly when we jog, nor are our bodies aligned very well for it.

I'd be curious where you got this info.

I saw a production by NOVA that talked about man back in the good ol' days when he had to literally chase down his food. They said that man is designed for endurance and that way back when man actually ran his prey to death. Yep, you heard right....he would chase an animal (their example was an antelope) for so long that it would actually expire. Seems like they are built for speed and that you can actually run them till they die. I'm not stating this as fact....just repeating what they said on NOVA.

Edited to correct spelling.

Anatomy of a human foot is designed to run on the ball of the foot, not the heel. When I say sprinting, I mean, running with a forward leaning posture, not so much an all out sprint, my bad for not explaining better. But I can see the nova special's point. I'm just going off of college Human Anatomy.

LuckyLeprechaun

where the heck are you getting this info? Fox News?

WTH dave?

and to think I was beginning to like you.........:huh:

Dave198lbs

where the heck are you getting this info? Fox News?

WTH dave?

and to think I was beginning to like you.........:huh:

editing my post can change the obvious context
if you want to quote me...take the whole quote.
thank you

LuckyLeprechaun

oooookay.

I just showed the portion I was responding to. I didn't get the memo on quoting rules....

msarro

Strangely though, arguably the world's greatest runners - Kenyans - run almost exclusively barefoot. I agree that the science doesn't seem to support it, but in practice the evidence is there.

I'd run fast too with a lion chasing me. :laugh:

I'm guessing they go without shoes frequently there so their feet are a lot tougher then ours. :huh:

I'm thinking thats the case. Plus since they're forced to grow up running barefoot, they learn to run with better form than people who have grown up with shoes protecting their feet. Shoes lead to improper running form, which leads to injuries.

this is interesting..."shoes lead to improper running form"

I suppose hi heels or pumps might...but I dont wear those

where the heck are you getting this info? Fox News?

Yessis, M. Explosive Running, McGraw Hill, 2000.

Also,
http://cs.gmu.edu/~pammann/barefoot99.html

Also,
http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/barefoot.html

At least two are universities. Most of them cite Dr. Niel Sharkey as a source, however one is an article, the other is a book citation.

Sorry, fox news is absent. Its not that hard to believe that creating cushions on foot falls where there normally are none would change the way the foot works. It also allows for the foot to fall incorrectly... for instance, some people land on their heels when in shoes because the heavy padding allows them to do so comfortably. Yet doing so barefoot is terribly painful.

Dave198lbs

Strangely though, arguably the world's greatest runners - Kenyans - run almost exclusively barefoot. I agree that the science doesn't seem to support it, but in practice the evidence is there.

I'd run fast too with a lion chasing me. :laugh:

I'm guessing they go without shoes frequently there so their feet are a lot tougher then ours. :huh:

I'm thinking thats the case. Plus since they're forced to grow up running barefoot, they learn to run with better form than people who have grown up with shoes protecting their feet. Shoes lead to improper running form, which leads to injuries.

this is interesting..."shoes lead to improper running form"

I suppose hi heels or pumps might...but I dont wear those

where the heck are you getting this info? Fox News?

Yessis, M. Explosive Running, McGraw Hill, 2000.

Also,
http://cs.gmu.edu/~pammann/barefoot99.html

Also,
http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/barefoot.html

At least two are universities. Most of them cite Dr. Niel Sharkey as a source, however one is an article, the other is a book citation.

Sorry, fox news is absent.

dang it
ya got me

jamielbeck

Running barefoot seems like a painful idea. The idea behind it does make sense but I keep thinking shoes were created for a reason right? I am definitely curious, if someone tries it let us know how it goes. I on the other hand will be sticking to running in sneakers (unless I am on a beach). I have too much of a germ-phobia to run barefoot through my neighborhood. :noway:

FluffnStuff

I do most of my working out barefoot.
I am not a huge fan of running... but I've ran barefoot on a treadmill before.
No additional aches or pains that I recall.

meatball

the foot should strike heel first and then roll onto the ball to provide the natural cushioning effect that our feet provide.

duffyzmom

Check out coverage of the Boston Marathon on Monday! I heard on NPR yesterday that there are some barefoot runners planning to participate this year.

aprilvet

Interesting debate! I think, however, that the Kenyans' dominance may be more due to genetics than running barefoot! Also, do they run barefoot by choice or necessity??

SHBoss1673

True enough about the Kenyans. And also the fact that not many of them can afford running shoes may play into it.

BUT

I decided I was not at the knowledge level that I could be with regards to this topic, so I did a little research, and lo and behold (big shocker), it looks like I was wrong. Lots of studies out there actually concluded that running shoes are actually worse for you then running barefoot. That's not to say you should start running barefoot through the streets, as there's still rocks, glass, nails, and other debree that can harm you easilly. But apparently, if you can run on a treadmill or some other smooth surface that you are sure has no debree on it, there are some structural changes that happen that can reduce both acute (like ankle sprains) and chronic (like planar faciitis) injuries. I guess the supporting soft tissue on the sole of the foot flexes more and the skin hardens after prolonged barefoot running. This reduced arch problems, increases tendon strength in the arch and ankle, and promotes correction for pronation. All really good to know for me as I have a pretty pronounced pronation of the arch. I might have to give it a try on the treadmill in my house.

Hey, I ain't too proud to admit when I'm wrong.

1Corinthians13

I was a ballet dancer, and so when I run, I run mostly on the balls of my feet...I think because I was used to being on my toes. I think it would not be good for me to try to run barefoot.

SHBoss1673

I was a ballet dancer, and so when I run, I run mostly on the balls of my feet...I think because I was used to being on my toes. I think it would not be good for me to try to run barefoot.

While not the "usual" form for most people, what feels natual for you is what it is. As long as there's no pain, and you aren't twisting your foot during the motion, I don't see an issue. A side note though, I imagine running barefoot would probably force you into a more traditional running patten over the long run. Whether this is somehing you want or not, I don't know. I'm just guessing, but the studies I read all indicated that running barefoot actually corrects a lot of stride problems.

1Corinthians13

I was a ballet dancer, and so when I run, I run mostly on the balls of my feet...I think because I was used to being on my toes. I think it would not be good for me to try to run barefoot.

While not the "usual" form for most people, what feels natual for you is what it is. As long as there's no pain, and you aren't twisting your foot during the motion, I don't see an issue. A side note though, I imagine running barefoot would probably force you into a more traditional running patten over the long run. Whether this is somehing you want or not, I don't know. I'm just guessing, but the studies I read all indicated that running barefoot actually corrects a lot of stride problems.

Hmmm, I don't know. I would be nervous to do it outside, but maybe one day I'll try it on the treadmill. I'm not worried about how I run...I've been running regularly since last summer with no injuries of any kind, I'm never sore unless I run a particularly long or hard run...no problems with my knees or shins or calves or feet....so the way I run I guess isn't an issue! Why fix it if it ain't broke, right?

msarro

Just be careful, running constantly on the balls of your feet is begging for issues with your Achilles tendon :frown:

jtintx

Remember, our feet are designed for SPRINTING not for long runs, we don't balance all that greatly when we jog, nor are our bodies aligned very well for it.

Would you also be willing to say that the human foot is made for distance running - not sprinting. I didn't want to argue with you earlier but I believe that that statement is incorrect and should be corrected.

In a sprint out bodies are tilted even further forward than in a jog and therefore even more out of balance. The arch of the foot provides a spring effect. When sprinting the runner runs more on the balls of the feet. In distance running (jogging) the runner should land more mid-foot. We are built more for the long haul more so than speed.