Why dont more people learn martial arts?

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  • Inlet
    Inlet Posts: 135
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    According to my brown belt brother and his instructor, the self defense aspect of martial arts doesn't really kick in for a good year or so... before the moves become accurate, strong, and instinctive.
    Classes are pretty non-flexible for those who are just squeezing exercise in wherever they can in their day, and it does get expensive.
    I can get a gym membership for 30 bucks a month and take as many Rape aggression defense classes as I want to for free.
    Simple self defense classes are cheaper, very useful and fast.
  • Jw9576
    Jw9576 Posts: 29 Member
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    My son is with the Gracie Jiu Jitsu studio - he's been doing it for almost 2 years ( he's 6 yrs old )
    The cost is about $135.00 a month - 3 sessions a week ( 50 minutes each ) so while it does get expensive ( buying the GI and other stuff, tournaments and special functions ) its also a commitment for life. As the instructors say, "A black belt is a student who never gives up"
    You don't go in to any martial arts and think its only going to be a few years
    That said, some people aren't willing or able to give that type of commitment. People change, lifestyles change, etc
  • SLaw4215
    SLaw4215 Posts: 596 Member
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    Ours was a 3 family member karate membership. I'm a brown belt in Tang Soo Do and for the most part, I loved it. I quit because I personally didn't enjoy the sparring because I have a disc injury. My youngest child quit because the owner of the karate school didn't respect that she has Aspergers Syndrom and instead of helping her learn to become part of the group (learning through repeating and discipline) he would single her out, to the point that other kids didn't want to be in the same class. I traded the expense of monthly karate classes for going back to college.
  • crazylikefox
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    This last year I deployed to two locations. The first one was in a war zone where we were issued an M9 and stayed safely inside the wire (I know, I'm a fobbit). The second was to a rather touristy island where bad guys like to prey on the people off the cruise ships and we weren't allowed to go downtown without a male escort. I felt safer in the land of the IDF (indirect fire) than I did weaponless in paradise, where one of our men was mugged at our hotel.

    If you have a martial art, you aren't defenseless. Its not a catchall, but it will teach situational awareness as well as improve fitness and self confidence. I am a beginning student in Wing Chun Kung Fu and I love it because it is a soft style. I'm not going to win a slug fest with a dude, and Wing Chun isn't about overpowering the other guy. Its not about sparring or competing, its about threat mitigation. Whereas I thought I had weak upper body strength, they taught me I have height and reach that I can use to my advantage.

    Its also pretty expensive. I am really blessed to be able to afford it and have such a great group of students and teachers.
  • beyg
    beyg Posts: 212 Member
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    I don't like the clothing and sound effects......that is the only reason I don't do it.

    hrm.. this just sounds like an excuse to me. The clothes may look funny, but everyone else wheres them, so that isnt a real issue. you can (and should) get changed at the dojo, not wear them out in public.

    and the "sound effects". they are breathing exercises. they are there to serve a purpose. and again, everyone else is doing it.

    not to mention there are schools that dont have the uniforms or the shouting. a lot of MMA gyms will just teach in standard street clothes.

    Sound effects, that's funny. Do a no gee MMA with krag maga
  • vs1023
    vs1023 Posts: 417 Member
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    Expense. The promotions cost money too. My husband did it for years, got to 2nd degree black belt and eventually gave it up from gymnast back pain and cost.
  • froeschli
    froeschli Posts: 1,292 Member
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    I used to do karate. I loved it. But self defense? Nope I wouldn't categorize it as that. Any decent teacher will tell you to run before making a stand.

    My sister has a 3rd Dan in aikido. Way more impressive than karate I tell ya. (just don't tell her I said that)

    Anyhow, if I could find an affordable dojo in my area, teaching the same style, (there are 2 homebrew karate shools in my town, no shotokan) I'd probably go back to karate. But then I wouldn't be opposed to other flavors of martial arts. Judo used to be fun too. But not very practical.
  • mysterycookie
    mysterycookie Posts: 21 Member
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    I did martial arts from age 4 - 17. (Yes, 13 years.) At the end, I was an assistant instructor and almost went to school to become a full time instructor. The big thing that made me stop was how corporate martial arts can be. It's all about business and marketing. Though I don't like how martial arts schools market themselves towards parents for their children, I look back on my experience positively.

    Martial arts helped me gain self respect and gave me determination. I've been wanting to go back for the last couple years (I'm 24 now).

    Reasons why I haven't gone back:
    1. Price! It's so much more expensive than when I was a kid.
    2. Marketing towards kids. A dojo has a much higher chance of catching my attention if they show how serious they are towards learning. I hate seeing little 10 year old black belts. Sure, some kids may actually earn it, but I've seen black belts that can barely throw a proper punch.
    3. Paid belt tests and ranks. Knowing I have to pay to even attempt to become a higher rank just feels fake to me. When someone is ready to rank up, they should only have to pay for the belt. (Around $10 vs. $150+)

    Edit: Optional classes to give some variety are amazing. I loved having a Tai chi , kickboxing, and sparring class all at the same dojo.
  • trinitrate
    trinitrate Posts: 219 Member
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    If you want to defend yourself, a concealed carry permit and training is much more useful. If you live ina reasonable state that allows it.

    I have a black belt in tkd and have been practicing for about 9 years... i dont consider most MA as great self defense unless you train a lot. Even then size and strength still come into play....

    I woud suggest promoting your studio for fitness, and self confidence, discipline etc....be careful about what you promise for self defense...


    For the expense factor.... if you ask, a lot of schools will give a stiff discount for prepaying to a certian level. Be careful before over comitting, but if your sure you will use it prepaying can save you thousands...
  • zorbaru
    zorbaru Posts: 1,077 Member
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    2. Marketing towards kids. A dojo has a much higher chance of catching my attention if they show how serious they are towards learning. I hate seeing little 10 year old black belts. Sure, some kids may actually earn it, but I've seen black belts that can barely throw a proper punch.
    3. Paid belt tests and ranks. Knowing I have to pay to even attempt to become a higher rank just feels fake to me. When someone is ready to rank up, they should only have to pay for the belt. (Around $10 vs. $150+)

    Our school doesnt actually accept kids. The youngest we will take is 13. this is for a couple of reasons. no 1 is that the sylabus includes a lot of things that you dont want your average 8 year old to learn (choking, eye gouging etc) and 2, he doesnt want to be used as a cheap babysitting service. in the past when he did teach kids in a different style (he previously taught shotokan), parents would drop the kids off and pick them up 1.5hours later and it was obvious that the kids really didnt want to be there.

    I have no issue with paying for tests and ranks. as long as it is not overboard. usually the grading days are seperate from the existing classes, so you will need to pay for the hire of the hall (most schools in adelaide dont have permanent locations, but rather rent space at a community centre etc), plus the extra time spent by the instructor. the belt is included in the cost aswell.

    usually low grades are $20, higher is $35 - 40 and black belt tests are around 50 - 60. anything more than that and it is a money grab.

    infact i left a TKD school because of their grading prices. i had already got my BB in another school and they were going to assess me direct to BB at this school. i had 3 days notice to come up with $290 for the grading and another $300 for the dobok (uniform). i said thanks but no thanks and left. this was after he said he would be subsidising my training as he wanted me to teach for him.
  • 1shauna1
    1shauna1 Posts: 993 Member
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    I would love to! However, I feel like as an adult I would look ridiculous starting off, unless there are adult beginner classes? Also, as a former esthetician I am loathe to have bare feet on an exercise mat like that....
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
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    It's expensive.

    That's my main reason. I used to do it as I took it for class credit (taekwondo), if I could afford it I would do again. I was in the best shape of my life when I did it and it helped with stress.

    I will go back to it once I can afford it again.
  • plushkitten
    plushkitten Posts: 547 Member
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    You know I really wish I would have taken up my parents offers of learning karate as a kid.

    At this age, I practice a lot of qi gong and meditation on my own and have found so much strength and power within myself.
    If it was practical, I would live a double life as a Shaolin monk O.O
  • YassSpartan
    YassSpartan Posts: 1,195 Member
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    It is about $$$ Like right now I'm dying to get back to it, but the high prices and low financial situation is making it impossible for me.
  • AnarchoGen
    AnarchoGen Posts: 400 Member
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    learned hand to hand combat in the Marines.

    Plus, I would LOVE some MMA, but way too expensive. The gym is cheaper than learning martial arts.
  • machinegunkate
    machinegunkate Posts: 74 Member
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    I'll be doing muay tai when I'm close to my goal weight. My hubs does it already. A lot of people are talking expense - hubs pays $10 a session. My daughter also takes taekwondo -$10 a lesson again, different places. =/
  • AnarchoGen
    AnarchoGen Posts: 400 Member
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    I'll be doing muay tai when I'm close to my goal weight. My hubs does it already. A lot of people are talking expense - hubs pays $10 a session. My daughter also takes taekwondo -$10 a lesson again, different places. =/

    I'd LOVE to pay that amount! It cost my son $35 per week for one session, which was 45 minutes. This was the kiddie class.
  • wickedcricket
    wickedcricket Posts: 1,246 Member
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    I know how to defend myself and I can't afford karate classes. Martial Arts classes are FAR more expensive than swimming lessons. I also know how to swim & teach swimming.

    and fyi- 2/3 of the planet is covered with water and it's getting deeper every year. I think being comfortable IN and around water IS pretty important. My children learned to swim before they could walk. it's unnatural to be afraid of water since we're all swimmers before we're born, don't you think?

    IF martial arts are so important for everyone to know, WHY is it priced out of reach for a single person living on one income? ask your sensi that
  • Rayman79
    Rayman79 Posts: 2,009 Member
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    I started Karate at age 6, loved it and did it for a number of years - until my parents could no longer afford it :(. I was bitterly dissapointed as I'd just worked up to my brown belt at that point.

    A few years ago I started Aikido, a great small dojo but our first child arrived and money and time were both a little too tight.

    I have often thought about starting again, but right now I couldn't justify the expense (financially and time) given that I spend 6 hours a week at the gym and pay them over $100 a month).

    There is a martial arts studio/gym across the road from my work building which does MMA and has gym facilities. Once I get to where I want to be with my fat loss, I might consider a move there.
  • HorrorChix89
    HorrorChix89 Posts: 1,229 Member
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    I have a gun and family that make people disappear...nuff said