Colonics? worth it or not?

TheDevastator

The liver is so far upstream, that an enema in the colon to detox the liver is the equivalent of spitting in the southern Gulf of Mexico and expect to see a ripple in the Artic ocean. If this works for you then continue the practice. But I don't think its a good idea to use a sales pitch from a web site that sells this garbage, as a healthy fact. The facts you stated are wrong. And candida is better cleaned up by diet, than anything that shoots water up less than 6 inches, can do!

They are not that far apart. The intestines absorb the caffeine which stimulates the liver. 6 inches? The colon is usually about 60 inches. Why don't you do some research.

http://www.peak-health-now.com/coffee-enema-pages.html

Better yet read books on the Gerson Therapy like "Healing the Gerson Way: Defeating Cancer and Other Chronic Diseases" by Charlotte Gerson and Beata Bishop.

Normal colonics that just use water do nothing but remove feces. You need to add essential oils, coffee etc. for therapeutic value.

RonSwanson66

The liver is so far upstream, that an enema in the colon to detox the liver is the equivalent of spitting in the southern Gulf of Mexico and expect to see a ripple in the Artic ocean. If this works for you then continue the practice. But I don't think its a good idea to use a sales pitch from a web site that sells this garbage, as a healthy fact. The facts you stated are wrong. And candida is better cleaned up by diet, than anything that shoots water up less than 6 inches, can do!

They are not that far apart. The intestines absorb the caffeine which stimulates the liver. 6 inches? The colon is usually about 60 inches. Why don't you do some research.

http://www.peak-health-now.com/coffee-enema-pages.html

Better yet read books on the Gerson Therapy like "Healing the Gerson Way: Defeating Cancer and Other Chronic Diseases" by Charlotte Gerson and Beata Bishop.

Normal colonics that just use water do nothing but remove feces. You need to add essential oils, coffee etc. for therapeutic value.

Please stop regurgitating pseudoscientific nonsense.


http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/colon-cleanses-a-load-of-you-know-what/

TheDevastator

Please stop regurgitating pseudoscientific nonsense.

It's not nonsense, there are plenty of studies that support enemas that I posted earlier. I personally have done them and improved my health from them. If you're healthy they are not necessary but for the sick they can make them healthy and be life changing.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/colon-cleanses-a-load-of-you-know-what/

This article would be by a surgeon, not that there is anything wrong with surgeons but some of them believe that if anything is wrong they will just cut it out. Sometimes it is beneficial and life saving but other times it can cause all sorts of problems.
Most of the article he scrutinizes a lot of the misinformation out there on enemas such as how many bowel movements you should have or whether your feces should float, while these are things to take into consideration they're not the greatest reason to do enemas.

I would consider your article pseudoscience. He is theorizing most of his claims against enemas with little proof to back it up. There is a reason why colon cancer is one of the top killers.

mickipedia

drink loads and loads of orange juice and eat loads of mints.. that will get you "running" smoothly

mhotch

Please stop regurgitating pseudoscientific nonsense.

It's not nonsense, there are plenty of studies that support enemas that I posted earlier. I personally have done them and improved my health from them. If you're healthy they are not necessary but for the sick they can make them healthy and be life changing.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/colon-cleanses-a-load-of-you-know-what/

This article would be by a surgeon, not that there is anything wrong with surgeons but some of them believe that if anything is wrong they will just cut it out.

I would consider your article pseudoscience. He is theorizing most of his claims against enemas with little proof to back it up. There is a reason why colon cancer is one of the top killers.

I know you take your info from an unreliable sales pitch, and debunk medical info from medical professional, but this was taken from John Hopkins web site. JH is probably one of the leading medical institutions in the world.

" Colonics -- The risks.
While removing hardened feces from your colon may sound like a reasonable way to improve your health, the risks of colonics should give you pause— particularly if you are over age 65 or have a bowel disease such as diverticulitis, Crohn’s diseas, or ulcerative colitis, all of which increase your chances of experiencing a complication from the procedure.
In general, the dangers of undergoing colonics can be placed into four categories:

!] during a colonic the bowel wall can be perforated by the tip of the rubber tubing or by the use of too much water pressure and can lead to a potentially life-threatening infection

2} you can have an allergic reaction to the nozzle at the tip of the rubber tubing (in particular, if you are allergic to latex) or to one of the cleansing substances added to the water

3} you can develop an imbalance in electrolytes such as potassium and sodium, since colonics rinse away minerals that are normally absorbed into the bloodstream from the large intestine. {Which can become potentially fatal to anyone with diagnosed or undiagnosed heart problems,- my words, not those of JH}

4} you can be infected with bacteria and viruses if the equipment is not properly sterilized between treatments. (Most colon hydrotherapists use disposable, sterile tubing, so this is less of a risk than in the past.)

The bottom line on colonics. Today, experts in the medical community—including doctors at Johns Hopkins—look on colonics as a questionable procedure, and advise against its practice because of concerns about the potential for side effects of colonics. While we are not opposed to alternative and complementary health practices that have been proven to be safe and effective, we do not advise colonics because it goes against a basic medical principle: First, do no harm.

Posted in Digestive Health on December 28, 2006 "

http://www.johnshopkinshealthalerts.com/alerts/digestive_health/JohnsHopkinsHealthAlertsDigestiveDisorders_520-1.html

Another article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2020983/Colon-cleansing-health-benefit-Jennifer-Aniston-Dianas-fad-bad-you.html

agentscully514

It's not nonsense, there are plenty of studies that support enemas that I posted earlier. I personally have done them and improved my health from them. If you're healthy they are not necessary but for the sick they can make them healthy and be life changing.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/colon-cleanses-a-load-of-you-know-what/

This article would be by a surgeon, not that there is anything wrong with surgeons but some of them believe that if anything is wrong they will just cut it out. Sometimes it is beneficial and life saving but other times it can cause all sorts of problems.
Most of the article he scrutinizes a lot of the misinformation out there on enemas such as how many bowel movements you should have or whether your feces should float, while these are things to take into consideration they're not the greatest reason to do enemas.

I would consider your article pseudoscience. He is theorizing most of his claims against enemas with little proof to back it up. There is a reason why colon cancer is one of the top killers.

Yes, he is a surgeon -- as in, the guy who has to go in and fix perforated colons that result from colonics. Surgeons don't just cut things out, they also sew them back together after some idiot has stuck a hose up their behind.

I agree that he doesn't back up his statements about the dangers of enemas, but much of his criticism is still valid. And he certainly has better credentials than an enema salesman.

TheDevastator

Yes, he is a surgeon -- as in, the guy who has to go in and fix perforated colons that result from colonics. Surgeons don't just cut things out, they also sew them back together after some idiot has stuck a hose up their behind.

If you use the right equipment like I do(silicone colon tube) and take the proper precautions there is no chance of a perforated colon. There is equipment out there that would make a perforated colon possible and would suggest people interested in enemas get the proper training.

I agree with people that say colonics are a waste of time because all they are doing is using water. These series of enemas is what I would recommend people use if they are sickly. http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/kb.asp?ID=65

RonSwanson66

Yes, he is a surgeon -- as in, the guy who has to go in and fix perforated colons that result from colonics. Surgeons don't just cut things out, they also sew them back together after some idiot has stuck a hose up their behind.

If you use the right equipment like I do(silicone colon tube) and take the proper precautions there is no chance of a perforated colon. There is equipment out there that would make a perforated colon possible and would suggest people interested in enemas get the proper training.

I agree with people that say colonics are a waste of time because all they are doing is using water. These series of enemas is what I would recommend people use if they are sickly. http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/kb.asp?ID=65

Stop it.


There is NO scientific evidence to support this practice. It's nothing but pseudoscience and woo.
Recommending this type of treatment is irresponsible.

The appeal to detoxification resonates with many people for some reason, although there is no scientific evidence to back up the claims that we need detoxification, that commercial agriculture is especially poisonous compared to organic food, or that coffee enemas do anything more than cause electrolyte imbalance and dehydration. Furthermore, none of the proponents of detoxification by enema identify any specific toxins removed by the process. You'd think at least one advocate would analyze at least one specimen and identify at least one toxin found.

http://www.skepdic.com/gersontherapy.html

There have been no well-controlled studies published in the available medical literature that show the Gerson therapy is effective in treating cancer.

In a recent review of the medical literature, researchers from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center identified 7 human studies of Gerson therapy that have been published or presented at medical conferences. None of them were randomized controlled studies."


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Use of the Gerson therapy can lead to a number of significant problems. Serious illness and death have occurred from some of the components of the treatment, such as the coffee enemas, which remove potassium from the body and can lead to electrolyte imbalances. Continued home use of enemas may cause the colon's normal function to weaken, worsening constipation problems and colitis. Some metabolic diets used in combination with enemas cause dehydration.

Serious infections may result from poorly administered liver extracts. Thyroid supplements may cause severe bleeding in patients who have cancer that has spread to the liver.

Gerson therapy may be especially hazardous to women who are pregnant or breast-feeding. Relying on this treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer, may have serious health consequences.

http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/DietandNutrition/gerson-therapy

dreamy885

I don't know anything about colonics, but you could try taking Probiotics to help regulate you and build up your immune system.

TheDevastator

1] during a colonic the bowel wall can be perforated by the tip of the rubber tubing or by the use of too much water pressure and can lead to a potentially life-threatening infection

There is no chance of perforating the colon with the proper equipment and technique. The only pressure from an enema is gravity.

2} you can have an allergic reaction to the nozzle at the tip of the rubber tubing (in particular, if you are allergic to latex) or to one of the cleansing substances added to the water

Don't use latex, use silicone. Make sure you're not allergic to any of the substances with a skin test.

3} you can develop an imbalance in electrolytes such as potassium and sodium, since colonics rinse away minerals that are normally absorbed into the bloodstream from the large intestine. {Which can become potentially fatal to anyone with diagnosed or undiagnosed heart problems,- my words, not those of JH}

add salt to the enema mix and make sure you eat potassium rich foods.

4} you can be infected with bacteria and viruses if the equipment is not properly sterilized between treatments. (Most colon hydrotherapists use disposable, sterile tubing, so this is less of a risk than in the past.)

Use grapefruit seed extract for sterilization. Lavender and peppermint essential oils are also antibacterial and antimicrobial.

The bottom line on colonics. Today, experts in the medical community—including doctors at Johns Hopkins—look on colonics as a questionable procedure, and advise against its practice because of concerns about the potential for side effects of colonics. While we are not opposed to alternative and complementary health practices that have been proven to be safe and effective, we do not advise colonics because it goes against a basic medical principle: First, do no harm.

Enemas aren't for everyone. They take a certain level of knowledge and training. I believe they are one of greatest ways of getting and staying healthy.

It's all in her book:
http://www.amazon.com/Days-Optimal-Health-Kristina-Amelong/dp/0975589962/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330019321&sr=8-1

I buy my organic essential oils from here:
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/aroma/ess.html

RonSwanson66

It's all in her book:
SPAM

I buy my organic essential oils from here:
SPAMl

It's becoming increasingly clear that you work for a company that sells this bull****.

TheDevastator

It's becoming increasingly clear that you work for a company that sells this bull****.

not at all, but I believe in enemas as a tool to stay healthy.

rjt1000

It's becoming increasingly clear that you work for a company that sells this bull****.

not at all, but I believe in enemas as a tool to stay healthy.

I find that I can expel all the bad stuff through normal bowel movements. Don't see the need for enemas for normal healthy individuals who have functioning digestive systems.

catcrazy

Locked before the debate becomes more heated.

OP, Sorry to lock your topic but I think the replies given have covered most points. If you are concerned about your bowel habits I would suggest speaking to your Dr but there is no evidence to suggest that colonics can help in weight loss on more than a very temporary basis.