Too much exorcize?

cjhart81
cjhart81 Posts: 200 Member
edited November 11 in Fitness and Exercise
I walk to and from work, which is 4 miles each way and takes me about 70 mins each way..

I get home and do 30 day Shred, then go for a jog. ONLY around the block for now because I am trying to build up stamina.

I end up having so many calories to eat back that I struggle. I am just worried that will affect the progress of me loosing weight.

Should I do less exorcize so I dont have so many calories to eat back?

I am NEVER hungry and if I start to feel it, I have a snack - tangerine or something.

If I do eat more I just feel bloated and thats not a good thing surely...

hellllllp

:)

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  • TimWilkinson101
    TimWilkinson101 Posts: 163 Member
    I "personally" dont agree with the idea of eating back all your exercise calories. I think if they are ones that are based upon some very strenuous activity then I'd count them if I was in need of the food / hungry. We all are expected to do some basic activities within our daily calory count, but its a bit difficult to see where they draw the boundary in MFP.

    You might want to take a look at http://www.builtlean.com/2010/03/14/how-to-calculate-your-calorie-burn/ and http://www.builtlean.com/2011/01/18/how-many-calories-should-you-eat-to-lose-weight/ to give a method that you can use to check your and MFP's sums. If they are wildly different, then you may have an issue. Bear in mind that in the links they have sliding levels of lifestyle which will also help you to get a more accurate result.... possibly.
  • AlwaysWanderer
    AlwaysWanderer Posts: 641 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.
  • lambertj
    lambertj Posts: 675 Member
    Good question. I've been busting my butt trying to do 6 miles (about 700 calories) about 5 or 6 times a week and not eating my exercise calories back and my weight loss came to a stand still. Advice on here was to eat some of my exercise calories back but then I thought to myself, why bust my butt to burn the calories off only to eat them back (I was literally at the gym each night after working 9 hours a day for 1.5 hours). This week I have cut my exercise calories back to about 4 miles (about 450 calories) and am not eating them back and am losing weight and I have 30 minutes of extra free time a night. Go figure.
  • 714rah714
    714rah714 Posts: 759 Member
    The thing about nutrient and exercise is that there is nothing written in stone, meaning what works for one person does not necessarily mean it will work for another. With that said, the trick here is to find what works for you and stick with it, good luck to you in the future.
  • this is what im having problems with!! so iv been waiting till the very end of the day to add my exercise to my diary! we'll see how i go!! Must agree It does seem to over estimate calorie burn! But so does my zumba!! :(
  • Flixie00
    Flixie00 Posts: 1,195 Member
    You don't have to eat back all your calories, 50% - 60% seems to work for me (based on MFP calculations on what I have burnt as I cannot use a HRM due to medication).

    In the long run, the extra calories should keep you from falling off the wagon, as this is a marathon not a sprint :smile:
  • paigemarie93
    paigemarie93 Posts: 778 Member
    If you can't eat back your exercise cals, then don't. Just make sure you're eating no less than 1200 calories in the first place along with exercise :]
  • lind3400
    lind3400 Posts: 557 Member
    If your walking to and from work maybe you need to increase your work activity level....if its set at very light set it to light or up to moderate so it will automatically give you a little extra calories so your not overestimating your burn
  • Articeluvsmemphis
    Articeluvsmemphis Posts: 1,987 Member
    are you saying you're not hungry, or are you really not hungry? exercise is good, but you can overdo a good thing. were you originally walking to work everyday? if so that should have been included in your activity level when calculating your daily calories from the beginning. long story short, you need enough food to fuel your body, your body will hate you and do bad things to you if you don't feed it enough and the right kinds of fuel. listen to your body
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
  • AlwaysWanderer
    AlwaysWanderer Posts: 641 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.

    K.. What a lovely chart.. which tells me absolutely nothing.

    How do you define low intensity exercise? Nothing on that chart says walking is low intensity exercise.. Throw in a hill, incline on a treadmill or some intervals and bam, you are in the aerobic zone/anaerobic zone... by walking.. what a shocker!

    Unless you know that OP's 4 mile walk is on totally flat land and she's going at the pace of a snail, then you can't tell her that it's low impact and that she shouldn't log it because the calories are coming from fat and will be replaced as fat.
  • AlwaysWanderer
    AlwaysWanderer Posts: 641 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.

    K.. What a lovely chart.. which tells me absolutely nothing.

    How do you define low intensity exercise? Nothing on that chart says walking is low intensity exercise.. Throw in a hill, incline on a treadmill or some intervals and bam, you are in the aerobic zone/anaerobic zone... by walking.. what a shocker!

    Unless you know that OP's 4 mile walk is on totally flat land and she's going at the pace of a snail, then you can't tell her that it's low impact and that she shouldn't log it because the calories are coming from fat and will be replaced as fat.
    The OP walks 3.4 mph. And she lives in Surrey. Thats what told me. You are obviously looking to pick a fight, I suggest you find someone else. And before you start questioning something "google" it.
    And besides, you stated "I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work." Thats the same advice I gave. So whats the point to all this nastiness? Vent out your frustrations elswhere.
  • runnercheryl
    runnercheryl Posts: 1,314 Member

    K.. What a lovely chart.. which tells me absolutely nothing.

    How do you define low intensity exercise? Nothing on that chart says walking is low intensity exercise.. Throw in a hill, incline on a treadmill or some intervals and bam, you are in the aerobic zone/anaerobic zone... by walking.. what a shocker!

    Unless you know that OP's 4 mile walk is on totally flat land and she's going at the pace of a snail, then you can't tell her that it's low impact and that she shouldn't log it because the calories are coming from fat and will be replaced as fat.

    Have to agree with this. As someone else said, different things work for different people.

    I eat back the calories I burn doing ALL my exercise, walking included, and that works for me. I'm not doing anything too strict nutrition-wise, so if I have a lot of calories to burn back (700ish if I'm walking), I'll throw in a few biscuits to get back to my net goal.
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.

    K.. What a lovely chart.. which tells me absolutely nothing.

    How do you define low intensity exercise? Nothing on that chart says walking is low intensity exercise.. Throw in a hill, incline on a treadmill or some intervals and bam, you are in the aerobic zone/anaerobic zone... by walking.. what a shocker!

    Unless you know that OP's 4 mile walk is on totally flat land and she's going at the pace of a snail, then you can't tell her that it's low impact and that she shouldn't log it because the calories are coming from fat and will be replaced as fat.
    The OP walks 3.4 mph. And she lives in Surrey. Thats what told me. You are obviously looking to pick a fight, I suggest you find someone else. And before you start questioning something "google" it.
    And besides, you stated "I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work." Thats the same advice I gave. So whats the point to all this nastiness? Vent out your frustrations elswhere.

    No, I'm not looking to pick a fight actually but your claims are un-founded and there is some mis-information in there which I would like to try and clear up.

    You are corrected in what I stated, but I also told her to up her activity level to account for the walking... Read all the way through please before you pull out random bits to quote me.

    Walking 3.4 miles per hour is different for each person... So to her, that could be pretty high intensity exercise even though it is low impact on her joints... Which is really what I was trying to get at. Walking is low impact on the joints, Yes, but as an exercise over all it can be high impact depending on the conditions.

    Also, I'm not trying to be nasty.. It's called a debate.. Haven't you ever seen one done on the forums before? Lots of people ask for articles or proof when someone says something that doesn't seem right... or so that they can learn something that they may not have known before.
  • Sl1ghtly
    Sl1ghtly Posts: 855 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.

    How much for the turtle?
  • AlwaysWanderer
    AlwaysWanderer Posts: 641 Member
    No, I'm not looking to pick a fight actually but your claims are un-founded and there is some mis-information in there which I would like to try and clear up.

    You are corrected in what I stated, but I also told her to up her activity level to account for the walking... Read all the way through please before you pull out random bits to quote me.

    Walking 3.4 miles per hour is different for each person... So to her, that could be pretty high intensity exercise even though it is low impact on her joints... Which is really what I was trying to get at. Walking is low impact on the joints, Yes, but as an exercise over all it can be high impact depending on the conditions.

    Also, I'm not trying to be nasty.. It's called a debate.. Haven't you ever seen one done on the forums before? Lots of people ask for articles or proof when someone says something that doesn't seem right... or so that they can learn something that they may not have known before.
    Sure, I like to debate. But not when it starts with :I'm calling it BS. Unless you prove me wrong, I'm right. :laugh:
    Of course it could be high intensity exercise. But I assumed, and it may be my mistake, that walking to work would not be high intensity. It's not like it''s done for the sole purpose of exercising. Unless the OP showers/changes at work, she wouldnt be able to work out proper sweat. And she walks twice a day, which means she is quite efficient at it.
    The training zones are a well established fact. You will fing it on nearly every gym machine. The good old "fat burn zone". Although it's been proven that it's not the best form of exercise for weight loss, no one ever questioned the proportion of what type of fuel is used for energy.
  • courtneymal17
    courtneymal17 Posts: 672 Member
    If you're worried about the accuracy of calories burned, I'd recommend getting a heart rate monitor. Since I've gotten mine I've seen a much more reasonable calculation of my workout levels compared to MFP and had a muuuuch better calorie deficit level. That being said, it's all about learning and listening to your body. Some people lose weight better if they eat back half/most of their exercise calories, and some people don't. So far, I haven't, and I've been losing weight pretty steadily. That being said, if I hit a plateau or have a day when there's a lot going on, I'm not afraid to eat a little bit more or have a bit of a cheat. And especially if I'm hungry, I'm not afraid to eat something healthy. It's all about what you feel. That being said, I'm not advocating eating 200 calories a day just because you're not hungry lol. Make sure you're at least getting good nutrient levels. When it comes to that, if you're really looking at trying to add in more calories but don't want to significantly increase your diet, try looking for some healthy, calorie dense food like some types of nuts and avocados. As far as walking/intensity of workouts go, I would say this...to each their own. Some people can't walk that far/fast...some people don't like walking, some do that and only that. It works for some people, it doesn't work for others. The thing about weight loss is there really isn't any hard and fast rules about it.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    No, I'm not looking to pick a fight actually but your claims are un-founded and there is some mis-information in there which I would like to try and clear up.

    You are corrected in what I stated, but I also told her to up her activity level to account for the walking... Read all the way through please before you pull out random bits to quote me.

    Walking 3.4 miles per hour is different for each person... So to her, that could be pretty high intensity exercise even though it is low impact on her joints... Which is really what I was trying to get at. Walking is low impact on the joints, Yes, but as an exercise over all it can be high impact depending on the conditions.

    Also, I'm not trying to be nasty.. It's called a debate.. Haven't you ever seen one done on the forums before? Lots of people ask for articles or proof when someone says something that doesn't seem right... or so that they can learn something that they may not have known before.
    Sure, I like to debate. But not when it starts with :I'm calling it BS. Unless you prove me wrong, I'm right. :laugh:
    Of course it could be high intensity exercise. But I assumed, and it may be my mistake, that walking to work would not be high intensity. It's not like it''s done for the sole purpose of exercising. Unless the OP showers/changes at work, she wouldnt be able to work out proper sweat. And she walks twice a day, which means she is quite efficient at it.
    The training zones are a well established fact. You will fing it on nearly every gym machine. The good old "fat burn zone". Although it's been proven that it's not the best form of exercise for weight loss, no one ever questioned the proportion of what type of fuel is used for energy.

    Actually, while it is on "every machine" my understanding of "the fat burning zone" is that it is misinterpreted in a very "bro science" sort of way. So let's say that in the "fat burning zone" you burn 250 calories in 1 hour of work, then you're burning 212.5 calories from fat. Now let's say you push that into an aerobic zone, you burn 500 calories in 1 hour of work, then you're burning 250. When you look at the numbers I just don't understand why everyone touts this strange low hr fat burning zone, to me it seems highly inefficient to spend much time there while trying to do cardio type exercises . . . now lifting on the other hand . . .

    One of the things mentioned was that this is fat burning and why would you eat those calories back just to eat the fat back or some such . . . that just doesn't even make sense unless you're planning on sitting down and eating 250 calories of fatback or pork belly. Your body needs fuel to continue working, if you want to build stamina then you need to give your body energy, you don't get energy from the air you get it from consumption. If your foods are making you feel bloated you should instead of quantity be looking at the quality of the food that you are eating, I can honestly say that I have never felt bloated from eating lean protein rich foods, however high carb and high fat foods make me want to sit on the couch and rub my belly. When my goal was weightloss I had great success with zig zagging, but that's my body and it took me about 6 weeks of experimentation to know the right balance of macros and zig zagging to find success. My heart rate monitor is a necessary piece of equipment to assit me in finding that balance, if you don't have one spend the money to get a good one, don't go cheap as this is an investment in your health and make sure it has a chest strap. I wish you great success as well.
  • Cindym82
    Cindym82 Posts: 1,245 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.

    K.. What a lovely chart.. which tells me absolutely nothing.

    How do you define low intensity exercise? Nothing on that chart says walking is low intensity exercise.. Throw in a hill, incline on a treadmill or some intervals and bam, you are in the aerobic zone/anaerobic zone... by walking.. what a shocker!

    Unless you know that OP's 4 mile walk is on totally flat land and she's going at the pace of a snail, then you can't tell her that it's low impact and that she shouldn't log it because the calories are coming from fat and will be replaced as fat.


    If she walks to work EVERY day than it is part of her daily lifestlye and does not count towards exercise. If you walk up and down the stairs everyday its part of your daily lifestyle, you don't log the calories burned from it. If you correctly look at MFP it will tell you exactly what your body burns to live without doing a single thing. So her chart made comeplete sense. Plus, unless she is sweating while walking to work than its low intensity.
  • AlwaysWanderer
    AlwaysWanderer Posts: 641 Member
    If she walks to work EVERY day than it is part of her daily lifestlye and does not count towards exercise. If you walk up and down the stairs everyday its part of your daily lifestyle, you don't log the calories burned from it. If you correctly look at MFP it will tell you exactly what your body burns to live without doing a single thing. So her chart made comeplete sense. Plus, unless she is sweating while walking to work than its low intensity.

    Thank you :flowerforyou:
  • cjhart81
    cjhart81 Posts: 200 Member
    Thanks for the info :)

    Just to clear it up though, I have only started to walk to work and back in the 6 weeks.. and I walk as fast as I can, there is not many hills on the way as it is mostly downhill but on the way home it is quite steep.. and I go as fast as I can there too

    :)
  • cjhart81
    cjhart81 Posts: 200 Member
    And now have started to be less sweaty.. :D
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.

    K.. What a lovely chart.. which tells me absolutely nothing.

    How do you define low intensity exercise? Nothing on that chart says walking is low intensity exercise.. Throw in a hill, incline on a treadmill or some intervals and bam, you are in the aerobic zone/anaerobic zone... by walking.. what a shocker!

    Unless you know that OP's 4 mile walk is on totally flat land and she's going at the pace of a snail, then you can't tell her that it's low impact and that she shouldn't log it because the calories are coming from fat and will be replaced as fat.


    If she walks to work EVERY day than it is part of her daily lifestlye and does not count towards exercise. If you walk up and down the stairs everyday its part of your daily lifestyle, you don't log the calories burned from it. If you correctly look at MFP it will tell you exactly what your body burns to live without doing a single thing. So her chart made comeplete sense. Plus, unless she is sweating while walking to work than its low intensity.

    yes, this is exactly why dad suggested that she make sure that those calories are part of her base instead of her added exercise calories. Not to discount them, but ensure they're part of her lifestyle rating.
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    Dont log you walking. Walking is low intensity exercise, which meant 80% of calories burnt comes from fat. Why would you want to replace that? And take about 75% of mfp estimation for calories burnt, as they are way overestimated. 30DS burns about 150-200 cal, and a slow jog round the block about a 100. That would give you about 250-300 more cals a day. Hope that makes sense.

    Considering that for the past year on my weightloss journey, I did a lot of walking as cardio ate back my exercise calories, and dropped 30 pounds/ 4 sizes doing it, I'm calling that claim of yours about walking to be BS. If you have a link though to support your claim, I'd love to see it.

    To OP:
    I'd log the exercise(30 DS and Jogging) but not the walking to work.. that I would consider part of a lifestyle, and you could prob. up your activity level to lightly active or even active, and account for those calories that way. That way you won't have as many exercise calories to eat back.
    *sigh*

    Here you go: (http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html)

    TRAINING ZONES

    Healthy Heart Zone (Warm up) --- 50 - 60% of maximum heart rate: The easiest zone and probably the best zone for people just starting a fitness program. It can also be used as a warm up for more serious walkers. This zone has been shown to help decrease body fat, blood pressure and cholesterol. It also decreases the risk of degenerative diseases and has a low risk of injury. 85% of calories burned in this zone are fats!

    Fitness Zone (Fat Burning) --- 60 - 70% of maximum heart rate: This zone provides the same benefits as the healthy heart zone, but is more intense and burns more total calories. The percent of fat calories is still 85%.

    Aerobic Zone (Endurance Training) --- 70 - 80% of maximum heart rate: The aerobic zone will improve your cardiovascular and respiratory system AND increase the size and strength of your heart. This is the preferred zone if you are training for an endurance event. More calories are burned with 50% from fat.

    Anaerobic Zone (Performance Training) --- 80 - 90% of maximum heart rate: Benefits of this zone include an improved VO2 maximum (the highest amount of oxygen one can consume during exercise) and thus an improved cardiorespiratory system, and a higher lactate tolerance ability which means your endurance will improve and you'll be able to fight fatigue better. This is a high intensity zone burning more calories, 15 % from fat.

    Red Line (Maximum Effort) --- 90 - 100% of maximum heart rate: Although this zone burns the highest number of calories, it is very intense. Most people can only stay in this zone for short periods. You should only train in this zone if you are in very good shape and have been cleared by a physician to do so.

    K.. What a lovely chart.. which tells me absolutely nothing.

    How do you define low intensity exercise? Nothing on that chart says walking is low intensity exercise.. Throw in a hill, incline on a treadmill or some intervals and bam, you are in the aerobic zone/anaerobic zone... by walking.. what a shocker!

    Unless you know that OP's 4 mile walk is on totally flat land and she's going at the pace of a snail, then you can't tell her that it's low impact and that she shouldn't log it because the calories are coming from fat and will be replaced as fat.


    If she walks to work EVERY day than it is part of her daily lifestlye and does not count towards exercise. If you walk up and down the stairs everyday its part of your daily lifestyle, you don't log the calories burned from it. If you correctly look at MFP it will tell you exactly what your body burns to live without doing a single thing. So her chart made comeplete sense. Plus, unless she is sweating while walking to work than its low intensity.

    yes, this is exactly why dad suggested that she make sure that those calories are part of her base instead of her added exercise calories. Not to discount them, but ensure they're part of her lifestyle rating.

    Thank you.. Glad you actually read what I put.
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