Soy burger vs Turkey burger?

daffodilsoup

I am a meatetarian (that is the total opposite of vegetarian). If I am going to eat meat, I want the real stuff. Like everything in life it is all moderation. After all, I did not rise to the top of the food chain to eat vegetation. How the hell do you think animals in the wild survive, they kill and eat each other!! We are all a part of the animal kingdom and the circle of life. Those deer steaks we had for dinner this evening off the deer my son shot were "to die for", and well babmi did die for them.

The thing that makes humans different from the other animals in the animal kingdom is that we have the gifts of empathy, morality and choice. The lion cannot choose not to hunt the gazelle - it's in his genes to be carnivorous. The human, whose body is capable of thriving on a plant-based diet, can choose a path of compassion instead of killing.

If you choose to eat meat, that is completely your choice - but don't kid yourself into thinking it's because it's all part of the food chain - you eat it because you like the way it tastes.

Besides, you don't just have to be vegetarian to enjoy plant-based foods - they are delicious for Lent, Meatless Mondays, or just to add some variety into an omnivorous diet.

WingMan380

I am a meatetarian (that is the total opposite of vegetarian). If I am going to eat meat, I want the real stuff. Like everything in life it is all moderation. After all, I did not rise to the top of the food chain to eat vegetation. How the hell do you think animals in the wild survive, they kill and eat each other!! We are all a part of the animal kingdom and the circle of life. Those deer steaks we had for dinner this evening off the deer my son shot were "to die for", and well babmi did die for them.

The thing that makes humans different from the other animals in the animal kingdom is that we have the gifts of empathy, morality and choice. The lion cannot choose not to hunt the gazelle - it's in his genes to be carnivorous. The human, whose body is capable of thriving on a plant-based diet, can choose a path of compassion instead of killing.

If you choose to eat meat, that is completely your choice - but don't kid yourself into thinking it's because it's all part of the food chain - you eat it because you like the way it tastes.

Besides, you don't just have to be vegetarian to enjoy plant-based foods - they are delicious for Lent, Meatless Mondays, or just to add some variety into an omnivorous diet.

Actually I eat meat because it is good for you and is part of a nutritious and well balanced diet.

woou

Actually I eat meat because it is good for you and is part of a nutritious and well balanced diet.

I eat meat, too, but I'm aware a well balanced diet can be had without it.

daffodilsoup

Actually I eat meat because it is good for you and is part of a nutritious and well balanced diet.

A nutritious and well-balanced diet can be achieved without the inclusion of meat.

WingMan380

Actually I eat meat because it is good for you and is part of a nutritious and well balanced diet.

A nutritious and well-balanced diet can be achieved without the inclusion of meat.

I eat meat, too, but I'm aware a well balanced diet can be had without it.

If God did not want man to eat meat, then he would not have put it on the earth to eat. The eating of meat is condoned by God. I am a Southern redneck and where I come from we kill our food or we do not eat. I respect your decision to not eat meat even though I do not agree with it, and I ask that people do not condem me for eating meat giving me the bull**** story of it isnt ethical to kill animals for food. The animals were put on this planet for man to eat, therefore I eat.

P.S. - You ain't gonna win, ask my wife!

kleighsamboer

uuuggghhh! Stay away from soy! It is so bad for women, It acts like weak estrogen. A better option is a veggie burger rather than soy. Sorry to be so blunt but sometimes I think that people have gotten so soy crazy and it really isn't good for you. Especially if you have any issues with pcos, endometriosis, or are trying to conceive.

daffodilsoup

If God did not want man to eat meat, then he would not have put it on the earth to eat. The eating of meat is condoned by God. I am a Southern redneck and where I come from we kill our food or we do not eat. I respect your decision to not eat meat even though I do not agree with it, and I ask that people do not condem me for eating meat giving me the bull**** story of it isnt ethical to kill animals for food. The animals were put on this planet for man to eat, therefore I eat.

P.S. - You ain't gonna win, ask my wife!

It's not about "winning", it's simple just a matter of fact. People eat healthy, balanced and nutritious diets that are completely free of animal products every day.

I also don't believe that your god exists, so it's just not a justifiable argument for me - but then again, I also think it's convenient that a book written by man, for man is going to give man permission to do pretty much do whatever he wants with species that aren't his own.

woou

Religion was also used to justify slavery, i.e. the curse of ham. Again, I eat meat, too, and I don't believe there's a justifiable reason for doing so. It's largely due to a disconnect with animals, habit and convenience.

lisao62

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emdeegan

if pushed to choose... then turkey burger, HANDS DOWN. (with grass fed organic beef being the over all winner in the patty competition).

soy has phytoestrogens in it that effect your natural body chemistry and is not suggested to be consumed if you have a family history of breast cancer. soy also has more instances of food allergy than wheat...

daffodilsoup

If God did not want man to eat meat, then he would not have put it on the earth to eat. The eating of meat is condoned by God.

RaeLB

uuuggghhh! Stay away from soy! It is so bad for women, It acts like weak estrogen. A better option is a veggie burger rather than soy. Sorry to be so blunt but sometimes I think that people have gotten so soy crazy and it really isn't good for you. Especially if you have any issues with pcos, endometriosis, or are trying to conceive.

^ this
Don't overdo the soy, i only eat it every so often. There are great veggie burgers out there made out of potatoes & veggies -> i only know Canadian brands so i cannot be so helpful here

As a vegetarian, i obviously recommend these options over meat. I do not have a problem with people eating meat, i just have problem with our current practices (factory farming, over-consumption leading to environmental degradation, etc...)

Happy Eating!

ninerbuff

I've learned not to call ground chicken or ground turkey 'burgers.' In my mind burgers are beef and putting ketchup on the ground poultry seemed weird to me. Once I renamed them either chicken or turkey 'patties' and cooked them on my new george foreman grill ( and avoided ketchup-mustard is OK for me) all was well.. i'm curious now to hear about soy....

This. "Substitution" burgers aren't burgers. You can eat real burgers too (with cheese) if you know how to allot them correctly and get enough exercise to help counter the calories. I have at least one burger a week.


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LadyGhostDuchess

I never had a soy burger, but I have had a turkey burger and I actually enjoyed it quite a bit :drinker:

Trechechus

Veggie burgers = delicious. BOCA burgers = AMAZING!

chevy88grl

what's the benefit of eating turkey burgers? Ground turkey has as much fat as ground beef usually. Buy the 90% lean beef and it's lower in fat and calories than the ground turkey I see in the stores. And tastes much better as well.

I understand soy if you're vegetarian. But I just don't see any benefit of turkey over beef. If somebody does, clue me in.

I eat turkey burgers because I do not care for the taste of ground beef AND anytime I eat beef, I am very sick from it.

captawesome

If God did not want man to eat meat, then he would not have put it on the earth to eat. The eating of meat is condoned by God. I am a Southern redneck and where I come from we kill our food or we do not eat. I respect your decision to not eat meat even though I do not agree with it, and I ask that people do not condem me for eating meat giving me the bull**** story of it isnt ethical to kill animals for food. The animals were put on this planet for man to eat, therefore I eat.

P.S. - You ain't gonna win, ask my wife!

It's not about "winning", it's simple just a matter of fact. People eat healthy, balanced and nutritious diets that are completely free of animal products every day.

I also don't believe that your god exists, so it's just not a justifiable argument for me - but then again, I also think it's convenient that a book written by man, for man is going to give man permission to do pretty much do whatever he wants with species that aren't his own.

^^ Completely agree (on each point) - Virtual high five :laugh:

hiker282

Damn it! Now I want a real beef burger with everything on it. Lettuce, tomato, onion, pickle, pepper jack cheese, and of course, some catchup and mustard. *drools on keyboard**

erinkeely4

Neither. Just find some grass fed beef. Lots of iron, its lean, natural occurring CLA and other vital nutrients.

I eat grass fed burger wrapped in lettuce, with tomato, red onion, pickles and mustard...........OMG good and what I had last night for supper with a salad. YUMMO

I agree with this! Grass fed beef is awesome. And soy is bad for you.

Lissakaye81

I love all burgers. I have tried them all. I love beef, turkey, bison, and boca burgers. They all have their pro's and con's and different flavors. Try em and see what ya think. For the Boca's I love em on mini bagels with the laughing cow cheese spreads, the garlic kind is yummy! I am trying to stay away from meat more and more because I want to raise it, kill, and dress it myself, so I dont have to worry about the animals diet, treatment and human death. I love to eat meat, but hate unknowns. I am really bummed about reading the info on boca's here and will b doing more research. I'm wondering if any1 has any good recipes for home made fake burgers. Found out they grind skin in with turkey/chicken burgers. The bison burgers I have have an excellent flavor, watch out for overcooking them they get a gamey taste if not done right, expensive meat too.

WingMan380

Damn it! Now I want a real beef burger with everything on it. Lettuce, tomato, onion, pickle, pepper jack cheese, and of course, some catchup and mustard. *drools on keyboard**

Come on my friend!! I'll fire up the grill!
I make an awesome burger so juicy and tender it will make ya slap your mamma!
I worked at a steak house in college, I know some tricks of the trade.

WingMan380

@qtpie99.....

Sorry for hijacking your thread, but it has been a fun ride.
**takes bite of deer tendrloin**

vegamy

SOY healthier & no animal had to die for it C: Spicy black bean burgers from morning star are so good.

:-) Agreed!

qtpie99

Thank you all for the information. I'm thinking I may stay away from the soy and try veggie burgers instead or just stick to turkey or lean beef. I didn't know much about soy before and the reason I orginally asked the question was because of a recipe that used soy burgers which I will try the recipe but use a different kind of burger.