CrossFit

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  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member
    since we like citing sources, and the new york times is cited too, here's what they say about the burpee, a staple of any crossfit box. they also state that the squat, and weight training in general, is better for you then other exercises.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17exercise-t.html?pagewanted=all

    Nothing in that article supports the way the Crossfit organization operates, the way they run their weight lifting program with high numbers of reps on heavy lifts, etc. If someone wants to do burpees, they are welcome, but there are many other ways to get sufficient exercise without ever having to do even one burpee.

    Besides, I like to use my strength training and cardio classes at the YMCA as an exercise time and a social time to visit with other participants, so I have no reason to want to be in and out of the gym in 20 minutes.
  • engineman312
    engineman312 Posts: 3,450 Member
    since we like citing sources, and the new york times is cited too, here's what they say about the burpee, a staple of any crossfit box. they also state that the squat, and weight training in general, is better for you then other exercises.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17exercise-t.html?pagewanted=all

    Nothing in that article supports the way the Crossfit organization operates, the way they run their weight lifting program with high numbers of reps on heavy lifts, etc. If someone wants to do burpees, they are welcome, but there are many other ways to get sufficient exercise without ever having to do even one burpee.

    Besides, I like to use my strength training and cardio classes at the YMCA as an exercise time and a social time to visit with other participants, so I have no reason to want to be in and out of the gym in 20 minutes.

    the crossfit class i took was about an hour long. full dynamic stretch, warm up, skills training, WOD, and cool down. even if you say the teacher talked for twenty minutes, it was still a great 40-45 minute class. most classes at the gym i go to are about 45-50 minutes.
  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member
    CrossFit really is a love/hate thing. I tried a class once and it definitely wasn't for me. But my girlfriend is a huge CrossFit devotee, and she saw fantastic results the last time she went on a regular basis.

    Like others have said, quality can vary widely from gym to gym, so do a bit of research first, and don't push yourself past what you feel is safe on any workout. But I think it's worth a try to see if it's right for you.

    As I said earlier, you are better off staying entirely away from Crossfit, no matter what kind of a deal they offer.

    Many Crossfit facilities are cult-like, and even if you are there for just a few classes, they can put a doubt in your mind that if you don't join, you will be missing something, that if you don't continue, you will miss your opportunity to become "elite" like them, that you will forfet all the benefits of being part of their team, etc. I've heard some Crossfit facilities "love bomb" their recruits, as many religious cults do, pretending to be very interested in you as a person and an athlete, etc.....all in an effort to get more money and members.

    The truth is, if you like the idea of team support, there are plenty of gyms outside of Crossfit where you can find it. Many YMCAs have "Biggest Looser" type programs where teams compete to see who can lose the most weight, boot camp teams, and so on. Many fitness classes, or small training groups can also give you a sense of being on a supportive team without having to join the Crossfit Cult and pay their rediculously high fees.
  • thefuzz1290
    thefuzz1290 Posts: 777 Member
    since we like citing sources, and the new york times is cited too, here's what they say about the burpee, a staple of any crossfit box. they also state that the squat, and weight training in general, is better for you then other exercises.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17exercise-t.html?pagewanted=all

    No one is criticizing the individual exercises, just the way they're performed.

    I'm going to break down, from my own research, reasons I won't exclusively do Crossfit, and why I don't think others should either.

    1. Speed over form - it doesn't matter how bad you look doing it, as long as you get it done. Weight training this way has a higher risk of injuries, and devestating injuries. I have a job where if I get injured, I don't get paid. If you watch a lot of the Crossfit videos, poor form is actually celebrated as long as the weight is moved.

    2. Lack of proper coaching certification - $1000 and a 2 day seminar is all that's required for a level 1 certification. These coaches are supposed to be supervising complicated lifts at extreme fatigue. They're also not trained on recognizing injuries, so many times when someone is truly injured, they're encouraged to keep going and often do more damage. I keep reading, from Crossfit supporters, that "no box is created equally." That's not a good argument for me to go out and join a Crossfit gym, I want to know what I'm getting for $100+ a month.

    3. No consistency - Its great that you keep your body guessing, but when you do high reps of cleans, snatches, squats, etc. then turn around and do high reps of another similar workout the next time out, you're not making progress. Other than the regular workouts (Isabel, Cindy, Murph, etc.) for time, you don't know where you're gaining or where you're lacking. I've read many people brag about how they couldn't straighten their arms for days after a workout...I'm a cop, if I can't straighten my arms to shoot someone, I'll die.

    4. Too much hype - Glassman boasts that in 2 years of doing Crossfit, you will achieve a 700lb deadlift...hasn't happened yet. Glassman also boasted you gain as much endurance as a marathon athelete, and even had his head of Crossfit Endurance enter a few ultra-marathons...where he did not quaify or did not finish. Even one of the winners of the Crossfit games, in interviews, didn't train exclusively with Crossfit workouts.

    5. Cult-like mentality - I'm not drinking any koolaide I don't mix myself. The Crossfit community, for the most part, is frankly nuts. They laugh at those who get hurt, especially those who develop Rhabdomyolysis, and call theam weak. There is nothing weak about being injured, it happens. The hardcore members shun any other type of exercise, without any good argument to back it up.

    6. Cost - Now you can do the free random workouts they put on the website, but I'm talking about gym costs. I haven't seen a Crossfit gym have a monthly fee of less than $100. In fact, every Crossfit gym around me is $120+ a month. For that much money, I can join a decent gym and actually afford to pay for the gas to drive there.

    7. Glassman himself - Mark Rippotte is still strong as an ox, Tony Horton has a body many will never achieve, Jillian Michaels is still as fit as ever, but Glassman is a fat alcoholic who doesn't even use the workouts he claims is the greatest way to get fit. He's also an arrogant *kitten*, who is quick to insult anyone who even slightly questions Crossfit, and consistently insults well respected individuals in the sports medicine field. I'm not giving my money to that guy.

    Now that being said, do Crossfit type workouts have their place? Of course they do, but when properly and strategically, not randomly, placed into a fitness program. I actually believe that the Crossfit spin-offs, or Crossfit gyms in name only where the coach has other training, would be a more viable option than the typical Crossfit gym.
  • engineman312
    engineman312 Posts: 3,450 Member
    OP, if you have a deal on one month of classes, i say take advantage of it. try it out for a month. if you go 2-3 times a week for that month, i'm sure you'll have a good idea if it is right for you. you may end up liking the work outs and the environment, or you may come out thinking this isn't for you, or that you just need to find a different place to do crossfit.

    remember, in this environment, only you can injure yourself. don't lift or do more then you are comfortable with, no matter who is pushing you. however, crossfit is intended to take you outside of your normal comfort zone.

    good luck

    /thread
  • sarahbetherck
    sarahbetherck Posts: 270 Member
    The gym I go to is not "officially" a CrossFit gym but the workouts consist of the same exercises, just without all the lingo! And its been the best thing I've ever done. Expensive yes, freakin amazing results, yes. I've belonged to multiple gyms in my life in a range of prices per month and I would cut so many things out of my daily life if I had to in order to keep doing what I'm doing.

    Personally, I prefer slower "results," less chance of injury, and not being too sore to walk the next day.

    Our society is much tooo focused on rapid results. That's why all the fad diet pill companies make so much money. It isn't healthy or safe to try and change your body overnight. It is much better to make changes gradually.

    I didn't say anything about rapid results or trying to change overnight. I'm just saying that I've been at more traditional gyms before with treadmills and weight machines and had little to no progress, my body has responded really well to more dynamic workouts like the burpees and box jumps and dumbell/kettlebell complexes similar to what people I know who are involved in CrossFit do.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,971 Member
    Has anyone tried this at their local CrossFit gym? I have a great deal on a one month membership for unlimited classes, and it sounds/looks great but I wanted to hear about what to expect, results people have seen in a month's time with these classes, and any concern about injuries, etc.

    I would advise you to stay away from Crossfit. They are just offering that deal to "hook" you in, and after that, they charge 3 or 4 times more than most gyms. It's totally NOT worth it!

    Crossfit has a high rate of injuries because their workouts are extremely intense and are often not all that well supervised.

    BTW, this is one of the most informative articles you'll find about the Crossfit organization.

    Getting Fit, Even If It Kills You
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/22/fashion/thursdaystyles/22Fitness.html?pagewanted=all
    Can't believe that you and I agree on this one! Yeah, I'm not fond of the way they approach high rep squat cleans and some of the other popular power movements. I cringed at some of the youtube vids of people max squatting and doing squat cleans. Especially with power moves, it's about technique and the vids left me cringing since there were so many flaws. I would especially dissuade any beginner because power technique takes some years to develop and it only takes one time to really jack yourself up if your technique is wrong.



    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
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    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • fraktion
    fraktion Posts: 11
    Crossfit certainly is the marmite of the fitness world.

    Coming from a globo gym background, i'm now in month 4 of the crossfit routine. Mainsite, 3 days on 1 day off. All I can say is, without wanting to sound like a cult devotee, it has totally changed my perception as to what a 'proper' workout is.

    Yes, it was ridiculously hard to begin with. After my first session, I struggled to make it up the stairs and after driving home, when I got home, I wondered if i'd make it to my front door!

    Due to the nature of the timed workouts, and benchmarking yourself, people often want to rush to 'RX' the workouts (do the work out as stated without scaling). I think it's just a natural human ego thing, when in reality, you should hold off as long as possible until you have the correct form nailed. Of course you're going to get coaches with different levels of skill, only you can decide if you're getting enough assistance with form. As for 'no consistency'...I say rubbish. when you first start, you'll be 'broken' for a while, but Crossfit is supposed to be in addition to other things. That's why it's used by tactical operators, martial artists, fire fighters etc. The lack of specialisation in any chosen field is supposed to make you a great all rounder...better at life...functional fitness..which clearly it does. Yes, some 'elite' Crossfit atheletes don't exclusively do Crossfit, because it's supposed to be in addition to other things, such as strength training. The whole idea of timing yourself, then the workout coming up again in 6 months time with you knocking ___ minutes off your last time, can only be a good way of benchmarking your fitness.

    It's not for everyone and yes, some Crossfitters bare their ripped hands as war wounds. You don't get a better sense of community and complete lack of ego in modern fitness, than a Crossfit box. The workouts can be so brutal that all anyone cares about is getting through it. Not how good you look in your spandex or "look at that sweaty fatty over there" as I bicep curl in front of a mirror.

    I now lift in the mornings, and do the workout of the day in the evening. I've seen more overall progress in 4 months than I did in a year at the globo. It works for me.

    Poor form is never celebrated.
  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member
    The gym I go to is not "officially" a CrossFit gym but the workouts consist of the same exercises, just without all the lingo! And its been the best thing I've ever done. Expensive yes, freakin amazing results, yes. I've belonged to multiple gyms in my life in a range of prices per month and I would cut so many things out of my daily life if I had to in order to keep doing what I'm doing.

    Personally, I prefer slower "results," less chance of injury, and not being too sore to walk the next day.

    Our society is much tooo focused on rapid results. That's why all the fad diet pill companies make so much money. It isn't healthy or safe to try and change your body overnight. It is much better to make changes gradually.

    I didn't say anything about rapid results or trying to change overnight. I'm just saying that I've been at more traditional gyms before with treadmills and weight machines and had little to no progress, my body has responded really well to more dynamic workouts like the burpees and box jumps and dumbell/kettlebell complexes similar to what people I know who are involved in CrossFit do.

    I am not against the idea of people doing most of the exercises and movements they teach at Crossfit. I just don't like the extreme do-it-or-die-trying atmosphere of many Crossfit gyms.

    BTW, those exercises and movements are not unique to Crossfit. They've been around for ages. Crossfit just developed a extreme, pumped up version of old movements with new marketing to try and make people believe the are unique to Crossfit.

    If anyone wants to learn those movements and do them at their own pace, they can find videos, or for the lifts where you should have supervision, a non-Crossfit coach that can teach you how to do them correctly.
  • fraktion
    fraktion Posts: 11
    Nobody thinks the movements are unique to Crossfit.

    How could anyone think a pushup or pullup is new? The problems occur when people think they can jump straight in to performing a 'Snatch' with perfectly correct form after a half hours practice. Some of the lifting moves can take a year to learn correctly....until that time, you lift light.

    Let's face it, it's the powerlifting / olympic lifting that people baulk at.

    Why not vet the coach first and see what their background is before diving in? If they simply have a level 1 cert, then perhaps walk away. If they're a powerlifting personal trainer as well as a box owner, then perhaps you might be onto a winner.
  • thefuzz1290
    thefuzz1290 Posts: 777 Member


    Poor form is never celebrated.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne5FGRvP5Is

    Forward to 4:41 where Dave Castro, one of the main employees of Crossfit, does a horrendous 20 second attempt at a deadlift that is way too heavy....then is congratulated by Dave Lipson, another main employee of Crossfit, for his effort. Not once did the two Crossfit "trainers" step in in reference to his form. In fact, Dave Lipson, right after that, does a horrible jerky version of a deadlift and is celebrated for it.

    Also from an article written by someone who attended the Level 1 Certification class:
    I arrived for the second and final day still smarting from my failed Fran experience, but also a little confused. The instructors had painstakingly taught correct technique, yet during Fran, some of the form I saw on the thrusters was pretty ugly. Why weren't the instructors calling this out?

    As luck would have it, the first order of business was to discuss strength vs. technique. Pat Sherwood, our instructor, began with a CrossFit riddle:

    If an athlete gets pinned under 225 pounds in the bench press, but three months later can successfully press 225, did he get stronger?

    Collective nods.

    If the same athlete fails at performing a muscle-up (an extended pull-up in which you finish with your arms straight), and three months later is successful, did he get stronger?

    A few head nods, but also some disagreement. I joined the dissenters. "That could be just improved technique, through practice and repetition," I said.

    According to CrossFit, I was wrong. "The athlete is stronger because in CrossFit, strength is the productive application of force," Sherwood explained.

    Technique be damned?

    "Unsafe is unacceptable," Sherwood said. "But perfect form is also unacceptable. What we look for is CrossFit slop."

    If you're doing a high-rep, high-effort set of cleans, and your back starts to round, that's unsafe and therefore unacceptable. But if you're doing that same set of cleans with textbook-perfect form on every rep, that's also unacceptable. You've either chosen too light a weight, or you're not working hard enough.

    The sloppy ideal is a small breakdown in technical form, maybe 20 percent off from perfect. In CrossFit, that's the optimal balance of effort and safety. "That's where the intensity is," Sherwood said.

    I got it, but I wasn't buying it. Other coaches I've worked with were sticklers for impeccable form. Hell, Poliquin would stop a set for a breach of tempo, even if my form was perfect. He'd **** hypertrophied bricks if a client's form strayed 20 percent from the ideal on an Olympic lift.

    To my mind, lifting is a learned endeavor. You practice perfect form over and over until it becomes second nature. That's especially true for Olympic lifting. How can you get good at an exercise if you force yourself to keep a set going past the point of technical breakdown? Aren't you just creating poor muscle-recruitment patterns that compete with the correct patterns?

    "Technique only has to be good enough to increase the intensity," Sherwood answered. "The goal is never perfect form. Remember, it's the speed of the set that is the goal."

    http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/crossed_up_by_crossfit
  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member
    Nobody thinks the movements are unique to Crossfit.

    How could anyone think a pushup or pullup is new? The problems occur when people think they can jump straight in to performing a 'Snatch' with perfectly correct form after a half hours practice. Some of the lifting moves can take a year to learn correctly....until that time, you lift light.

    Let's face it, it's the powerlifting / olympic lifting that people baulk at.

    Why not vet the coach first and see what their background is before diving in? If they simply have a level 1 cert, then perhaps walk away. If they're a powerlifting personal trainer as well as a box owner, then perhaps you might be onto a winner.

    The point is -- problems that cause injuries occur at Crossfit on a very frequent basis.

    It is NOT a rare thing for trainers to allow or even encourage Crossfit participants to over-do it in workouts, especially after they complete the onramp. intro classes.

    There is nothing special enough about Crossfit to make worth the outrageous prices. Crossfit can be, and often is, extreme, elitist and cultish, so why spend your time and money with them unlesss that kind of an atmosphere is really what you want?
  • fraktion
    fraktion Posts: 11
    Like I said originally, it's Marmite. You either love it or hate it.

    Personally, my Crossfit box / gym is cheaper than the globo gym I used to belong to.

    Yes it can be extreme but there's absolutely no elitism...I cant deny it does seem a little cultish at times, along the same lines as Apple...but overall it's fun. It's constantly varied so you don't fall into boring routine and makes fitness into a sport (do I work for Reebok?)

    Vet your coach. I like the idea of a massively cheap, by comparison, personal trainer with me every time I train.
  • rebeccap13
    rebeccap13 Posts: 754 Member
    If you haven't tried it the value of your opinion drops considerably. As far as poor form, varies by box. I recommend researching local CrossFit affiliates if you have the luxury of having multiple ones in the area. Most coaches have a background in more than just the Level 1 cert. A lot of them have been doing competition lifting and were collegiate athletes. We even have a coach that was a yoga instructor for 15 years before starting CrossFit so she incorporates a lot of yoga into our warm ups.

    All the injuries that I have seen members of my gym have were all from things outside of CrossFit; recreational skiing, hiking, backpacking, running, etc. People get hurt running marathons, people get hurt running triathlons, I've heard MFP pals claim they were injured after doing things like Zumba, heck, I got injured doing P90X. Just part of the deal. You have to listen to your body and until you can do that you have a high risk of injury. Do my coaches push me past what I think my limits are? Yes, because they understand that half the issue is mental. If I don't want to go for it, I don't have to. No one is holding a gun to my head forcing me to add 10lbs to my max.

    Not only am I basically getting a personal trainer three times a week for $155 a month, I am getting a community of driven people which has been hard to find since moving 1500 miles from my hometown, I am getting many valuable nutrition seminars (non of them campaigning for Paleo like everyone assumes all CrossFit affiliates force you into), and also some important seminars on goal setting and learning how to healthily push yourself during your workouts.

    If you don't like, don't do it. If you like it, then go for it.
  • rebeccap13
    rebeccap13 Posts: 754 Member
    It's fine to get kids exercising at a young age - just don't get them involved in the Crossfit Cult.

    Rachel?

    Haha, good to see someone else has thought of this too.
  • kvissy
    kvissy Posts: 205 Member
    i'd ignore health_gal if i were you. about 75% of what she posts is negative, and generally advocates against women lifting and crossfit in general.

    I'm so tired of seeing her copy and pastes. over itttt CF for lifeee ha
  • I don't have time to argue with people who have never tried CF for themselves, never experienced the community and take what the NY Times says as gospel (cause we all know they are the pinnacle of responsible journalism (blech)). What I will say is that I have done CF at a number of different gyms for the past 4 years. I started CF on my own, with a friend at a weight of 317#...since then I have lost 140#, gained massive amounts of strength and reduced injuries that had been plaguing me for years. I can't imagine I would have had the same results any other way, I might have, but this is what worked for me. The best part is the community, while some may call it cultlike, if you can keep a good sense of humor and not lose yourself in the idiosyncracies of it all then you will find some of the best people in a CF gym. How many times have you been working through a tough set of bicep curls at your local gym and had 20 people cheering you on lik you were a freaking olympian? Probaby never. But at a CF gym no matter who you are, where you are from, your body shape, how much you can lift, how fast you are etc, you are always being cheered on and supported. Yes there are bad gyms out there, there are bad trainers out there, the certification program leaves much to be desired, however they are working on improving it. Some fo the best and brightest in the sports, powerlifting, oly lifting, nutrition indudustry are associated with crossfit or have been associated with CF. The main thing is, don't take someone elses word for it...just check it out, see if you like it. Take is slow at first, listen to your body, learn as much as you can on your own about lifts and movements. If you want to be a brain surgeon you read about the brain right, if you want to be an oly lifter or crossfitter, you need to read about health and fitness and lifting. Educate yourself, try it out and it may or may not be for you. But it might at least put you in the right direction, anything to get the body moving is beneficial, just take the time to learn and rest and you will be A OK :)
  • P.S. for those of you that said you havnt seen a CF gym cost less than 100$ a month, the first one I belonged to cost 60$ a month unlimited and the one I belong to now costs 75$ a month for 5x per week. If you live in an area with multiple gyms they might offer more competitive rates and I know alot of the CF gyms have groupons or stuff on living social that you can get discounts from. Just add up all the $$ you spend on fast food per month and put it toward your fitness :)
  • NikoM5
    NikoM5 Posts: 488 Member
    Tried it. Coach gave 5 min of poor instruction before having students performing Olympic movements for time. Recipe for disaster IMHO
  • HollyMac20
    HollyMac20 Posts: 259 Member
    I have been to the box where that kids is pictured lifting! Wow, small world.
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    Here is my experience...

    Got a Groupon for 15 Crossfit classes...I have had friends in various parts of the country do it for awhile now so I figured why not give it a chance....

    Gym is a smaller outfit - with 3 coaches...they have Level 1 Level 2 and a barbell/strength class available - only 6 students per class...

    warm up is about 5-8 minutes of mobility/warmup stretches, time is spent working on certain things depending on what the Workout of the Day (WOD) is - if squats are on the menu then we might spend some time doing gobble squats to open up our hips...if push presses are on the menu we might spend some time working with PVC or empty barbells to make sure everyone is getting the form right...

    Only then do we add weights...everyone is different - in our gym everyone takes turn with thier reps so the coach can watch the form and make sure they are doing it right...

    Our coach will suggest a weight based on your previous lifts (huge boards to record your weights at the gym) if you are new to that lift then you start low and work your way up for a few reps...

    For rounds i.e. you might have a round that included 100 M row, 12 pull ups, 12 situps - as many rounds as possible in 10 minutes...you aren't competing against anyone else but yourself...you push as much as you can based on what you feel...

    THAT BEING SAID - I happen to go to an awesome gym with GREAT coaches and the people who come are so nice and friendly and I have never once been made to feel like I am a failure or I need to do something at a higher weight than I feel comfortable with...the other day we did front squats and I suck at squats - rather than going up in weight I stayed the same weight for all my reps (4 rounds of 4 reps each) in order to work on my form and get it better...my coach would rather see less weight and proper form then simply trying to lift more with bad form...

    I will say just like any other type of gym out there there is bound to be a bad apple or two...

    If you have a chance to check it out and give it a try for a month at a lower rate I say got for it...I figured when I did the Groupon if I went a few times and decided it wasn't for me I wasn't out a lot of money...

    I blasted through the classes in about 2 months time and I eagerly signed up for another 3 months...

    Is it something for someone who is just beginning working out - probably not...I had been doing gym work and kickboxing for a year before I started

    It is expensive - I won't deny it - but for me it is worth what i pay for it...and expense is relative...I choose to cut back in other areas of my life so I can afford to do things like this...

    I do not recommend trying it on your own - you can go to the main crossfit site and get WOD's but unless you know the proper form it is best to have someone who knows what proper form is...for example I would feel fine going to my other gym and doing things like strict presses or deadlifts because my form is good for those (only can't drop the weights at my other gym and that is best part of deadlifts :) ) but I wouldn't ever attempt a back or front squat because I know my form needs work....

    BTW - my kids have had to come with me to 2 of my classes and they are jealous - they want to lift bars over their heads and "play" around on the rings...
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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  • Crossfit workouts have caused much more injury and harm to participants than any good that could possibly ever come of it.

    I hope the popularity of that Crossfit exercise cult soon drops to the point that no one will want to risk their health of pay outrageous prices to join their gyms. Any "good" Crossfit coaches could easily find employment with other gyms if the Crossfit boxes all went out of business.
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    Like I said it all depends on the affiliate you go to...The one I go to is very straight forward and the coaches are fantastic...and they have turned away people because they do not think they are physically fit to even attempt to try and have told them - get in better shape and come back and see us again.

    My workout on Monday was front squats with rounds of kettle bell swings...my workout tonight is deadlift followed by open work on the rings.

    As for soreness - I am usually more sore from kickboxing then any crossfit workout I have done.

    There are inherant problems...I won't deny that - someone who is only in it for money and will accept everyone regardless of thier physical fitness ability...People who push themselves against the advice of their coach...People who choose to lift or workout when they know their body isn't up to the task...

    I personally think running is a big *kitten* sham...and people shouldn't run because of the risk of injuries over time...that is my personal opinion...because I have cut running out (except in small doses for HIIT workouts) as a possible exercise for myself I have found other things to round out my exercise routines...

    No matter what you do there is a risk...heck I sprained my ankle and was down for 3 weeks doing a stupid Wii game...

    It isn't for everyone - through it I have learned I really like lifting...will I continue with it for years - probably not but it has given me a variety in my workout that i need right now...

    Unless you have a specific ways it has affected your life personally I would refrain from making judgements about it...
  • Crossfit affected my life personally when some of my team mates were not able to run the half marathon due to Crossfit workout injuries.

    We had all planned to do the half marathon together last fall, and were training together until part of the group made the mistake of joining Crossfit because someone convinced them that program would make them a better runner. Before long, they started calling in about being too sore to do the practice runs because they thought they just HAD to do the Crossfit workout or their Crossfit coach would yell at them. Then in the month before the race, two people on our running team got injured at Crossfit before the race and could not even run/walk it.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
    Has anyone tried this at their local CrossFit gym? I have a great deal on a one month membership for unlimited classes, and it sounds/looks great but I wanted to hear about what to expect, results people have seen in a month's time with these classes, and any concern about injuries, etc.

    I don't personally like it but I do respect those that really get into it because it's not easy.

    Personally, if you're going to do it I would recommend finding out about all the exercises involved and just learn how to do them correctly first. Cross-fit involves lifts like the Power Snatch, Power Clean, Deadlift, Overhead Squat, etc which are all technical lifts, it's not just about pure strength, endurance, or even will power. The Power Snatch especially, in my opinion, is like 70% - 80% technique. Depending on how atheletic you are or aren't will determine how quickly you learn these.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
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    LMAO. I do think that allowing the participants and especially event competitors to do chin-ups like that is ridiculous.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
    I think it's awful that people are letting their kids get involved in Crossfit. The YMCA is a much better enviornment for children.

    It may be awful letting him go out the house with those pants on, but not getting into exercising at a young age

    LOL.

    That little dude in your pic has what, a 60lb snatch going on there? Not bad for a little guy. I'd rather have my kids doing that than sitting on their *kitten*.
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    Crossfit affected my life personally when some of my team mates were not able to run the half marathon due to Crossfit workout injuries.

    We had all planned to do the half marathon together last fall, and were training together until part of the group made the mistake of joining Crossfit because someone convinced them that program would make them a better runner. Before long, they started calling in about being too sore to do the practice runs because they thought they just HAD to do the Crossfit workout or their Crossfit coach would yell at them. Then in the month before the race, two people on our running team got injured at Crossfit before the race and could not even run/walk it.

    Grown people worried about being yelled at by someone they pay...now that's just sad...I wouldn't put up with it...neither should they...we are grown-ups - no one is going to FORCE you to do something you don't want to do...

    Heck yesterday in my Kickboxing class the intstructor decided to do burpees...I just looked at her and continued to do high knees with lunges...I don't do Burpees...if she wanted to yell at me she could...not going to affect me any...

    maybe they were hurt because of running and sore because of running...I have a good friend who broke her tail bone and has had stress fractures in both feet because of running but she gets healed up and then goes out for more - I think she is nuts but that is what she likes- but I don't go on all the running topics and say "well my friend runs and her body has gotten all jacked up"
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    I think it's awful that people are letting their kids get involved in Crossfit. The YMCA is a much better enviornment for children.

    It may be awful letting him go out the house with those pants on, but not getting into exercising at a young age

    LOL.

    That little dude in your pic has what, a 60lb snatch going on there? Not bad for a little guy. I'd rather have my kids doing that than sitting on their *kitten*.

    Our YMCA has weights...and they teach kids how to lift weights...ooooooohhhh no....I guess the YMCA is bad too now...
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