Coke and Pepsi

YassSpartan

I remember the many debates about how good or not coke is for you, specially when it comes about diet coke. A few users quoted my reply as false, made up things, information that had no science in it, and that it was taken from websites that they considered to be useless.

Although I would rather believe whatever I want, and nothing this users said is part of it, here are some recent news about something they said it wasn't true. In other words, Coke and Pepsi rather change an ingredient in their product and avoid having the word "Cancer" printed on a can of soda, warning that there is a certain risk than being honest about it and probably lose quite a few consumers.

Coke - Pepsi Make Changes To Avoid Cancer Warning

Coca-Cola Co. and PepsiCo Inc. are changing the way they make the caramel coloring used in their sodas as a result of a California law that mandates drinks containing a certain level of carcinogens bear a cancer warning label.

The companies said the changes will be expanded nationally to streamline their manufacturing processes. They've already been made for drinks sold in California.

The American Beverage Association, which represents the broader beverage industry, said its member companies will still use caramel coloring in certain products but that adjustments were made to meet California's new standard.

"Consumers will notice no difference in our products and have no reason at all for any health concerns," the association said in a statement.

A representative for Coca-Cola, Diana Garza Ciarlante, said the company directed its caramel suppliers to modify their manufacturing processes to reduce the levels of the chemical 4-methylimidazole, which can be formed during the cooking process and as a result may be found in trace amounts in many foods.

"While we believe that there is no public health risk that justifies any such change, we did ask our caramel suppliers to take this step so that our products would not be subject to the requirement of a scientifically unfounded warning," Garza-Giarlante said in an email.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a consumer advocacy group, in February filed a petition with the Food and Drug Administration to ban the use of ammonia-sulfite caramel coloring.

A spokesman for the Food and Drug Administration said the petition is being reviewed.

But he noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000 cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered that have shown links to cancer in rodents.

The American Beverage Association also noted that California added the coloring to its list of carcinogens with no studies showing that it causes cancer in humans. The listing was based on a single study in lab mice and rats.

http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/story/2012-03-08/Coke-Pepsi-make-changes-to-avoid-cancer-warning/53416202/1

secretlobster

Thanks for reinforcing my motivation to never drink soda again
(It's been about 5 years since my last Coke and I have no desire for one)

ElizabethRoad

There's already a thread on this, so I'm not going to stick around to argue about it. But try reading the article you posted:

"But he noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000 cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered that have shown links to cancer in rodents.

The American Beverage Association also noted that California added the coloring to its list of carcinogens with no studies showing that it causes cancer in humans. The listing was based on a single study in lab mice and rats."

natachan

But he noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000 cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered that have shown links to cancer in rodents.

The American Beverage Association also noted that California added the coloring to its list of carcinogens with no studies showing that it causes cancer in humans. The listing was based on a single study in lab mice and rats.

Use brain pls.

I don't drink the stuff, but I mean really. NO ONE is going to drink that much soda. If you are drinking enough to cause cancer, you're probably going to have a heart attack first.

LabRat529

There's already a thread on this, so I'm not going to stick around to argue about it. But try reading the article you posted:

"But he noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000 cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered that have shown links to cancer in rodents.

The American Beverage Association also noted that California added the coloring to its list of carcinogens with no studies showing that it causes cancer in humans. The listing was based on a single study in lab mice and rats."

Also, I'd like to add to this (as a new resident of California) that California laws are a bit obsessive when it comes to carcinogens. They have warning signs posted at gas stations and in parking garages noting that automobile fuel and emissions have been shown to have substances which (in the state of California) are known carcinogens.

They just go over-board here.

I'm gonna drink some coke today in honor of this thread. It will be coke with *gasp* aspartame in it, since I already had a sugar-laced hot chocolate.

elysecea

Well I made a conscious effort to stop drinking diet coke....now if can just kick the splenda that is my next step!

YassSpartan

Use brain pls.

I don't drink the stuff, but I mean really. NO ONE is going to drink that much soda. If you are drinking enough to cause cancer, you're probably going to have a heart attack first.

I suggest the same to you, use your brain and just don't read what you want to read. I said I would rather believe whatever I want, meaning I believe soda is not healthy at all, whether or not the cancer is true. IMO sodas are unhealthy, people do whatever they want to do.

YassSpartan

And besides, I'm still wondering, why defending so much the damn sodas when people here are trying to get healthy anyways? Yeah, 1 soda might not kill you but when you start adding up all the unhealthy food people usually eat that has brought them to the point they need to make a change in their lives, why not also just eliminate something doesn't give any benefits to weight loss, health, or anything at all?

Just let the people decide what they want and stop the constant arguing that sodas are not bad.

natachan

Did I say they aren't bad? I said that if you aren't drinking enough for your piss to be carbonated you're probably not going to come across this particular health issue. Damning a product for an issue that isn't going to arise is not the way to go. Putting down mandates in stone because of it as well isn't the way to go either. Do I like the stuff? No. Do I drink them? No. However the data put out here is BLATANT scare mongering and it's intolerable as such.

I'm not going to damn soda outright because there is NOTHING wrong with it in moderation. In the amounts MOST PEOPLE ARE DRINKING IT your body won't be able to distinguish it from sugar water. If you have one a week then the stuff will pass out of your body before any damage can accrue. If you want to believe the scare mongers then go ahead, I'm not going to force the stuff down your throat. But if I see something put out that I know to be false or misleading I'm going to call it out.

And telling people who have been eating unhealthy to simply cut out all the foods such as sodas, chocolates, etc is counter-productive to most of them. Making people feel deprived is NOT what you want. If you can deal with completely abstaining from these things then go you. I can't. I like chocolate, I enjoy an occasional chocolate bar, and I'm sure many people here would like an occasional treat like that.

tripitena

They are both garbage. It shouldnt be a surprise to anyone that the ingredients arent good for you. Why people guzzle it down by the gallon is a mystery but to each their own. If you can manage to drink enough to cause yourself those kinds of problems you pretty much deserve it.IMO

simoriah_angel

I may not be a nutritionist. But in the wise words of Jack LaLane: "If man makes it, I don’t eat it!". I am not perfect on that (hence, the fatness). But he got it right.

simoriah_angel

I may not be a nutritionist. But in the wise words of Jack LaLane: "If man makes it, I don’t eat it!". I am not perfect on that (hence, the fatness). But he got it right.

So that nobody is confused by it...he is talking about "artificial" everything. Sugar is natural. High fructose corn syrup is not grown anywhere.

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stacygayle

Warning or no warning I will NEVER give up my Coke Zero :laugh: