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  • midnightryder
    midnightryder Posts: 47
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    OK Tiger, you do know that the person writing the article you listed as a reference has very little practical experience nor the proper education to write such an article. Water will indeed cause you to urinate more if you have healthy kidneys or a healthy heart but even then I doubt it will pull excess water from your body.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    OK Tiger, you do know that the person writing the article you listed as a reference has very little practical experience nor the proper education to write such an article. Water will indeed cause you to urinate more if you have healthy kidneys or a healthy heart but even then I doubt it will pull excess water from your body.
    Neither will the 35mg of caffeine in tea, especially when diluted in water, which is my point.
  • midnightryder
    midnightryder Posts: 47
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    Furthermore Tiger, not one of the articles she listed as a reference ever touched on the fact of water as a diuretic or even suggested that water was a diuretic. Since you are so sure that it is a diuretic though I will make sure to tell my next congestive heart failure patient with 4 plus pitting edema in her lower extremities and crackles in bilateral lung fields that her problem must be that she hasn't drunk enough water for the day and that she should probably drink another gallon of water and that will surely rid her body of all the EXCESS water it is storing in places water should not even be.
  • jandk09
    jandk09 Posts: 99 Member
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    no no no please dont do that...lol
  • midnightryder
    midnightryder Posts: 47
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    Are you sure I shouldn't? Might be just the thing they need.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    Furthermore Tiger, not one of the articles she listed as a reference ever touched on the fact of water as a diuretic or even suggested that water was a diuretic. Since you are so sure that it is a diuretic though I will make sure to tell my next congestive heart failure patient with 4 plus pitting edema in her lower extremities and crackles in bilateral lung fields that her problem must be that she hasn't drunk enough water for the day and that she should probably drink another gallon of water and that will surely rid her body of all the EXCESS water it is storing in places water should not even be.

    Do you always rely on logical fallacies?
  • midnightryder
    midnightryder Posts: 47
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    If it gets my point across, yes.
  • Kenzietea2
    Kenzietea2 Posts: 1,132 Member
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    I don't think the tiger (haha) was trying to suggest that water pulls excess water from the body. I think the tiger meant it pulls just about the same amount of excess water as the tiny bit of caffeine does in tea-which is none.

    S/he was suggesting that none of those liquids will pull excess water, but will in fact hydrate you.

    I think, anyway :)
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
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    Here we go again!

    You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!

    http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day

    http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html

    http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/


    As for tea/coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.

    di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
    adj.
    Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
    n.
    A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.

    Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.


    http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what

    http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/

    http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm

    http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html

    http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not

    http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php

    http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo
  • Mandarz
    Mandarz Posts: 50 Member
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    Do you know if drinking iced tea (especially the cold brew kind) is the same as drinking water? Some say yes, some say no. Not sure if I should track my iced tea as part of my water intake. What do you guys think?

    If you are using a fruit tea, or decaf tea instead of a regular black tea, then yes you can count it as water, so long as you dont sweeten it with anything calorific!
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    Do you know if drinking iced tea (especially the cold brew kind) is the same as drinking water? Some say yes, some say no. Not sure if I should track my iced tea as part of my water intake. What do you guys think?

    If you are using a fruit tea, or decaf tea instead of a regular black tea, then yes you can count it as water, so long as you dont sweeten it with anything calorific!
    What difference do calories make? Do they mysteriously suck out the water?
  • misskerouac
    misskerouac Posts: 2,242 Member
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    Here is my non scientific answer

    8 glasses of water really isn't that much (and let's not argue about the whole number "8" here ok)

    maybe it will take you a few weeks to work up to 8 glasses a day, but you can do it ( I drink between 8-15 a day and I used to hate drinking water)

    So say you have 8 glasses of water and 2 glasses of tea. if you count the tea as water, great, if you don't, great.

    I don't count my coffee or tea, but I also drink hella water.
  • Mandarz
    Mandarz Posts: 50 Member
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    Do you know if drinking iced tea (especially the cold brew kind) is the same as drinking water? Some say yes, some say no. Not sure if I should track my iced tea as part of my water intake. What do you guys think?

    If you are using a fruit tea, or decaf tea instead of a regular black tea, then yes you can count it as water, so long as you dont sweeten it with anything calorific!
    What difference do calories make? Do they mysteriously suck out the water?

    You got me there- i guess calories would mean that you would be logging it in the diary, rather then just counting as water?
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
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    Looks like Tigersword and HmonsterX have this covered already. I just wanted to add that Ice T was pretty great on his OG album, and he's not too bad on Law and Order too.
  • misskerouac
    misskerouac Posts: 2,242 Member
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    Looks like Tigersword and HmonsterX have this covered already. I just wanted to add that Ice T was pretty great on his OG album, and he's not too bad on Law and Order too.

    Oh Detective Tutuola, if only he was as sexy as Detective Stabler!

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