Dog Breedism

PANZERIA
PANZERIA Posts: 471 Member
edited November 12 in Chit-Chat
My town just recently banned Rottweilers, dobermans, and pittbulls. I think this is absolutely ridiculous. There are Labradors, Akitas, and huskies running around who are just as dangerous, but because people think rotties, dobies, and pitties are 'naturally evil,' it's okay to just ban people from owning them and shoot them on sight.

GAH!!!!!!! IT'S SO STUPID!!!!!!

Thank you for listening.
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  • elenathegreat
    elenathegreat Posts: 3,988 Member
    There are no evil dogs...just stupid people.
  • hbrittingham
    hbrittingham Posts: 2,518 Member
    There are no evil dogs...just stupid people.

    Yup!
  • catfish9
    catfish9 Posts: 138
    People need to realize that any dog has the potential to be vicious and dangerous. Not for nothing, but I met quite a few nasty small breed dogs working at a kennel a few years back. These bans and fear campaigns are preventing people from having some truly wonderful companionship. :(
  • bluegirl10
    bluegirl10 Posts: 695 Member
    There are no evil dogs...just stupid people.

    I totally agree!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    What? "Shoot them on sight"? Really? Did your town just make that law?


    Sux.
  • TheMaidOfAstolat
    TheMaidOfAstolat Posts: 3,222 Member
    I've only ever been bitten by one dog and it was a chihuahua. I have worked in rescue for most of my life...never had a problem with "dangerous" breeds. Bans are stupid...it won't stop the dog fighting or breeding. The only thing it will do is kill more innocent animals because of how they were raised. A proper dog owner ensures good health, socialization, and the well being of their pet. As I own three rescues...these dogs are greatful and loving. I will never live somewhere where I am told I cannot have a certain breed of dog!
  • jwalker30
    jwalker30 Posts: 282
    My town just recently banned Rottweilers, dobermans, and pittbulls. I think this is absolutely ridiculous. There are Labradors, Akitas, and huskies running around who are just as dangerous, but because people think rotties, dobies, and pitties are 'naturally evil,' it's okay to just ban people from owning them and shoot them on sight.

    GAH!!!!!!! IT'S SO STUPID!!!!!!

    Thank you for listening.

    I didn't know an individual town could ban a breed, is that just a Canadian thing?

    So are existing dogs grandfathered in? or are people required to get rid of existing dogs?
  • amanda52488
    amanda52488 Posts: 260 Member
    That is so ridiculous!! I agree, it is not the dog but the owners who turn dogs bad!!

    I would love to get a pitbull some day!
  • ashleab37
    ashleab37 Posts: 575 Member
    People need to realize that any dog has the potential to be vicious and dangerous. Not for nothing, but I met quite a few nasty small breed dogs working at a kennel a few years back. These bans and fear campaigns are preventing people from having some truly wonderful companionship. :(
    Mostly agree, but good luck meeting a Cavalier who would know how to hurt a fly!
  • blueeyedcristi
    blueeyedcristi Posts: 304 Member
    There are 3 doberman next door. They constantly bark (irritates the crap out of me!) and are mean. I don't blame the dogs or their breed just their stupid owners. It's very rarely the dog's fault. Now having said that - my husband found a German sheppard mix puppy in a box in the snow yrs ago and brought him home. We also had a cat and our lab/dalmation mix. Anywho, as Hercules grew he became extremely aggressive towards me. We tried training 2x and we finally had to rehome him after he bit me pretty badly. It was extremely stressful.
  • samf36
    samf36 Posts: 369 Member
    I would have to move cause I have rotties. The worse thing they do is pass gas and beg for food at the table.
  • Bridge_CG
    Bridge_CG Posts: 429 Member
    Are you in New Mexico? Haha. I agree with you though. There are no bad dogs, just bad owners. My boss has a Rotty,German Shepherd, and a golden doodle. Two little girls, and those dogs are the sweetest things on the face of the planet. His brother has two pit bulls. Greatest dogs ever!

    I asked my mom if I could adopt a pit bull a couple of years ago, and she has that same stupid fear of them. It's a damn shame. They bred to be family dogs. Not fighters or whatever they're used for.
  • radosti1
    radosti1 Posts: 198 Member
    I just saw an urgent dog album with a bunch of well-cared for pit mixes. Many state the new dog breed ban as the reason for surrender. One owner even wrote, "she's a good dog and I love her!" brought tears to my eyes. The dogs in that album are slated to be PTS tomorrow.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I'm pretty good at "reading" dogs. Grew up around dogs. Worked at a shelter and an animal hospital. Lots of dog experience.

    Several times while out running, I've met loose dogs. For instance... Once a young (about 6 month old?) brindle pit wiggled under a fence. Another time, a red-nose pit jumped it's fence. And another time, a rottie mix that had to outweigh me by a good 30 pounds was standing in the middle of the sidewalk. Every time, I slowed to a walk, maybe stopped and let them sniff, told them they were good doggies, and was on my way. I did pick up the young'un and hand him back over the fence to the owner, wait until the jumper jumped back in his yard, and saw that the rottie's owner was outside. I didn't panic and I didn't run from them, and wasn't afraid of them.

    On the other hand, once I was running and saw someone ahead with an apricot toy poodle on a retractable leash, the owner obviously not in control of the dog at all. I crossed the street to avoid running by the little ankle-biter.
  • PANZERIA
    PANZERIA Posts: 471 Member
    My town just recently banned Rottweilers, dobermans, and pittbulls. I think this is absolutely ridiculous. There are Labradors, Akitas, and huskies running around who are just as dangerous, but because people think rotties, dobies, and pitties are 'naturally evil,' it's okay to just ban people from owning them and shoot them on sight.

    GAH!!!!!!! IT'S SO STUPID!!!!!!

    Thank you for listening.

    I didn't know an individual town could ban a breed, is that just a Canadian thing?

    So are existing dogs grandfathered in? or are people required to get rid of existing dogs?

    It's a town animal bylaw. Canadian law protects animals to the point of abuse and neglect, but as for specific care of dogs within a community, it's the town council who decide what they want. Most towns have on-leash laws and dog doody laws, but those are local bylaws that are imposed and enforced by bylaw officers. In most major centres, they have 'restricted breed' bylaws, which simply means that if you own a pitty, you have to register it with the city and the bylaw officers pop by randomly to make sure it's not being used as a fighting animal.

    The existing dogs must be neutered and kept on-leash so that they don't breed, but they're allowed to stay alive. If they are found wandering around the town, the town dog catcher will pick it up and either take it to the humane society in the larger town center 45 minutes away, or take it out to the woods if he deems it too dangerous.

    I know a lot about it since I live here, but I sure as hell don't agree with it. I'm working with the provincial humane society to try and help the town, but there's only so much I can do. No one here knows anything about dogs.
  • PANZERIA
    PANZERIA Posts: 471 Member
    I just saw an urgent dog album with a bunch of well-cared for pit mixes. Many state the new dog breed ban as the reason for surrender. One owner even wrote, "she's a good dog and I love her!" brought tears to my eyes. The dogs in that album are slated to be PTS tomorrow.

    That's just wrong. They shouldn't be PTS, they should be shipped to a different state where the breed isn't banned and put into a no-kill shelter. Someone will take them! Ugh. That makes me so sad.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    German shepherds are commonly on the aggressive dog lists as well. And I have know chihuahua's and minpins that were more aggressive than any German shepherd.
  • jgondor
    jgondor Posts: 145 Member
    There are no evil dogs...just stupid people.

    this says enough.
  • Gt3ch
    Gt3ch Posts: 212 Member
    I hate that BS. In NY Pit bulls automatically have the same legal status as any other dog with a bite history. Although I don't know of any place that can ban a dog except for maybe a condo or co-op community.

    I've seen labs, goldens, corgis, etc that scared the crap out of me! Most Akita owners I've seen don't really understand what they've gotten into. There are certain ones I know that when they arrive at the dog park it's time to leave. Stuff will go down. But when certain pitt bulls and boxers show up it's party time and everyone gets along & has fun.

    Huskies aren't inherently dangerous. I have a husky that is absurdly gentle, obedient, and non-aggressive. She's very dominant, though, and loves to hump Rottweilers esp. boys who tend to be super sweet. I've had her almost 11 years and trust her completely, even around children and infants. My late doberman, while very intimidating to most, was also extremely sweet, ridiculously smart and was ALWAYS nice to people.

    It's ALWAYS the owners fault when a dog is poorly socialized, neurotic, and difficult to control. Those people shouldn't have dogs of ANY breed.
  • sheri02r
    sheri02r Posts: 486 Member
    There are no evil dogs...just stupid people.

    TRUTH!
  • ccnjc4e
    ccnjc4e Posts: 142 Member
    I have a pitbull/boxer and they THINK the dad was a husky. She is a great dog. She is great with our kids (4 years and 9 months.) She minds well, and is the best dog I have ever owned. I can take her off leash anywhere and never have to worry about her taking off.

    Akita's are one of the worse breeds I have personally ever seen. Other than a small breed. I guess people don't see small breeds as a threat bc maybe they think you can get away.
  • jcoco
    jcoco Posts: 138 Member
    I would move or vote out the people that made this a law.
  • dakitten2
    dakitten2 Posts: 888 Member
    Any dog breed can bite. It all comes down to their owners and how they have been trained. While I only have small dogs, shih tzu and yorkie, I would be so pissed off if someone told me I couldnt have them. I would move to another place. Our neighborhood association also has a ban on 4 breeds of dogs, pitbulls, rotties, dobermans, and chows. It's getting to where it is becoming a form of communism if you ask me.
  • deniseearheart
    deniseearheart Posts: 919 Member
    what town are you in??? that sounds so silly
  • kimberly_grubbs
    kimberly_grubbs Posts: 70 Member
    I'm in Ohio and the county I live in has lifted a breed ban on pits, but the actual town I live in hasn't lifted it yet. So it's not just a Canadian thing.

    I totally put it on the owners for either their training (or the lack of) and the part that they should know their dog too! The only dog I've seen bite someone has been my mom's chihuahua, but the little thing has never been trained besides using a wee wee pad!
  • techigirl78
    techigirl78 Posts: 128 Member
    I never understood what happens to all the current pets when they make these bans since seeing Animal Cops (Detroit I think) in a city where they ban pitbulls to combat dog fighting.

    I think some breeds just get assoicated with bad things because bad people like them, like pitbulls. However, I agree with everyone that it depends on the dog and mainly the owner.

    As a kid, I was bit by a fox terrier. Still loved dogs, but since getting older, I'm also much more hesitant around small dogs. I think with a larger dog, most owners teach their dogs manners and basic obediance cause you don't want a 80 or 100 lb dog jumping up or constantly licking you. However, people treat little dogs differently and provide very little training. Which once again is the owners fault, not the dogs.
  • parker13
    parker13 Posts: 2 Member
    My late doberman, while very intimidating to most, was also extremely sweet, ridiculously smart and was ALWAYS nice to people.

    It's ALWAYS the owners fault when a dog is poorly socialized, neurotic, and difficult to control. Those people shouldn't have dogs of ANY breed.

    I completely agree that it is the lack of socialization and training that causes these problems, not the dog breed being inherently aggressive. I have a doberman and he is sweet and gentle, and while I get a lot of the expected reactions while out on a walk, he usually wins them over with his charming personality!
  • Ireshgurl
    Ireshgurl Posts: 559
    My family is a military family. We move every few years. We just moved last summer, but the housing on base doesn't allow "pit like breeds" so we live off base since there is absolutely NO WAY i'm giving up my baby girl. I either get the positive or the negative responses when I tell people I own a APBT. To those how react negativly I just shrug my shoulders and tell them they don't know my dog. She'd drown you to death by licking you before she'd bite ya, lol. I've never ONCE been worried about her with anyone or any other dog. And we've just adopted our second APBT and he'll get the same training she did to ensure that he's a great role model for his breed. Breed bans are the stupidest thing ever. It's just scared people trying to control something they don't understand or are willing to take the time to understand. The Vick dogs are the BEST example as to how an APBT can still come out on top after a life in horror.
  • ginnylee74
    ginnylee74 Posts: 398 Member
    I had a female Dobbie and she was so wonderful with my brothers baby.:smile: Let him pull her ears, climb all over her and never growled, nipped or was aggressive with the baby or any of the family or friends. She loved people and thought everyone came to play with her. I now have a G/S cross that is the best dog ever. The only time I have been bitten was by a chihuahua and a small chihuahua mix. :grumble:

    My neighbor has an Akita (they have a bad rep) that is the most loving dog. He so big, his back comes up to my waist. She also has a lab that is a doll. She is also taking care of another Akita that lost his buddy at home and needed other dogs to be around. He is very old and not grumpy at all. No fencing and the dogs never leave the front or back yard. Everyone in the neighborhood love them and bring their dogs over to play with them. I bring mine too.

    It's how they're raised.:drinker:

    This town needs to do their research before putting labels on the dogs. Why is it that a few that have a problem can dictate what the majority of others have to do.
  • ginnylee74
    ginnylee74 Posts: 398 Member
    My family is a military family. We move every few years. We just moved last summer, but the housing on base doesn't allow "pit like breeds" so we live off base since there is absolutely NO WAY i'm giving up my baby girl. I either get the positive or the negative responses when I tell people I own a APBT. To those how react negativly I just shrug my shoulders and tell them they don't know my dog. She'd drown you to death by licking you before she'd bite ya, lol. I've never ONCE been worried about her with anyone or any other dog. And we've just adopted our second APBT and he'll get the same training she did to ensure that he's a great role model for his breed. Breed bans are the stupidest thing ever. It's just scared people trying to control something they don't understand or are willing to take the time to understand. The Vick dogs are the BEST example as to how an APBT can still come out on top after a life in horror.

    Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!
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