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A Shaky felling
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It sounds exactly like it to me. A cupcake would do that to me, workout or not. I agree about increasing intake though.
That is exactly the feeling that I am talking about. Try cutting WAY back on sugar. Eating 175 grams of carbs a day is what MFP recommends for me. If I consumed all of that at once, I'd probably lapse into a coma.Since I been working out more than I have ever done before, I seem to get this shaky feeling that I just can't seem to explain. Can someone please help me to try to understand this?
What do you mean shaky? Light headed? This seems serious.
Are you on a low carb diet? Are you over training?
Weak, exhausted, shaky, give me something to eat fast feeling.
Try not eating high-carb foods, or just a little bit at a time. You don't necessarily have to cut down on total carb intake, but try to spead it out over the course of the day.
Sorry, but this doesn't sound anything like an insulin spike. Looking at the OP's food diary for the last week, I don't see much of anything in there that is THAT much carb or sugar intake in one sitting.
I think this is a simple case of not eating enough to fuel one's self. Seen it lots of times and guilty of the same thing myself when I first started.
If a cupcake makes you shaky, you need to go see a doctor and have your blood sugar tested. It should not do that to non-diabetic and non-hypoglycemic people.0 -
I only get this when my blood sugar gets low. Eat a banana.
And, you absolutely CAN and should be eating more than 1200 calories. Make it a priority to get to that at least every day. Your body needs fuel.
I was eating banana all the time but read somewhere that it makes you gain or something to that nature. I read it in something about "5 things that you should avoid" I think that is where I read it.
There is no such thing as a single food that makes you gain or lose weight. Bananas are totally fine. I eat them regularly.
It's all about fueling your body and maintaining a small calorie deficit so you lose fat weight and maintain your lean mass. Sounds to me like you're not eating nearly enough for your workouts which is causing the shakes, weakness, and lethargy.
There are a lot of calorie dense quality foods out there including nuts, red meat (in moderation), avocados, quality cheeses, etc. Fill 'er up girl. You should not feel hungry if you're doing this right.
You need to figure out your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure). This is your BMR (basal metabolic rate) + calories from normal activities. MFP calculates this for you under your "goals" section. Go in there and see what it says for your daily energy usage. Then set your goal to be 20% less than that. This will keep you feeling full, strong, fit, and fueled, but also help you drop the weight. It will be slower than what you're probably doing now, but much more sustainable in the long run.
Thanks so much I will try to do this.
No problem! Also, I do not see a lot of lean proteins in your diet. I'd highly suggest adding more of that and trimming your carbs down. This will help keep you feeling full.
Like I said, I made the same mistakes early on (as I think most of us did) of eating too little. Nice thing is that once you get your eating habits down, weight loss is actually quite the enjoyable experience. 0 -
I am fine and healthy and my pancreas works great. I don't think that's fair to say that there is something wrong with me because I get shaky when I eat high-sugar foods.
It sounds exactly like it to me. A cupcake would do that to me, workout or not. I agree about increasing intake though.
That is exactly the feeling that I am talking about. Try cutting WAY back on sugar. Eating 175 grams of carbs a day is what MFP recommends for me. If I consumed all of that at once, I'd probably lapse into a coma.Since I been working out more than I have ever done before, I seem to get this shaky feeling that I just can't seem to explain. Can someone please help me to try to understand this?
What do you mean shaky? Light headed? This seems serious.
Are you on a low carb diet? Are you over training?
Weak, exhausted, shaky, give me something to eat fast feeling.
Try not eating high-carb foods, or just a little bit at a time. You don't necessarily have to cut down on total carb intake, but try to spead it out over the course of the day.
Sorry, but this doesn't sound anything like an insulin spike. Looking at the OP's food diary for the last week, I don't see much of anything in there that is THAT much carb or sugar intake in one sitting.
I think this is a simple case of not eating enough to fuel one's self. Seen it lots of times and guilty of the same thing myself when I first started.
If a cupcake makes you shaky, you need to go see a doctor and have your blood sugar tested. It should not do that to non-diabetic and non-hypoglycemic people.0 -
I know that I do seem to be hungry all the time. I have a very very hard time trying to keep up with the calorie increase to the point that I hate eating. I really really have to force myself to eat. It is like I am tired of eating. As far as eating b4 workouts and time I eat b4 workouts varies. I just workout when ever I get bored and nothing to do or I feel that I have enough energy to do so. I can tell you this, I have increased my weights. I never used weight to build.
You may also want to figure out your BMR and TDEE...
You shouldn't be eating under BMR (especially now while exercising).
Eating calories 15% under your TDEE is a good approach to fat loss.
BMR and TDEE, sorry, you talking to a newbee, I am lost? I appreciate the time that you are taking to explain all. I been seeing people on here speak of TDEE and I was scared to ask what they mean.
1200 calories seems too less to me.
Do not feel bad about feeling lost - most people do at first - the 'jargon' does not help.
There is a really good post that explains this:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/538381-in-place-of-a-road-map? (hope the link works!)
Basically, the 'highlights" of the post are:
1) TDEE or Total Daily Energy Expenditure.
This is the amount of calories you burn all day.
From before you wake up in the morning and pee to the time you lay your head down at night to sleep and into the night.
Knowing TDEE allows you to understand that anything above TDEE is a surplus and you will "eventually" gain weight.
Anything at TDEE you maintain weight.
Anything below TDEE you lose weight to an extent. (see BMR)
2) BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate or RMR Resting Metabolic Rate.
If you were in a coma and in the hospital, the doctors would feed you your BMR in calories.
This ensures you have enough nutrients for vital organs to function.
Eating at BMR and staying in bed should maintain things as long as you do nothing at all.
Most people who start using MFP dont really understand the importance of this BMR number.
They jump in with both feet thinking "I'm going to lose soooooo much weight and be fantastic!"
What they dont understand is by not eating back calories from working out, they are netting below BMR.
The only people who should be eating below BMR are folks who have had Gastric Bypass, 500-700 cals/day, or people who are morbidly obese and only for an extremely short time and only prescribed by their "Nutritionist".
Most people who eat at or below BMR will lose weight for a short time.
20-50% of most weight lost on a Very Low Calorie Diet is from Lean Mass.
This is the opposite of true dieting.
Most people who diet want to have better looking bodies and live a healthy life.
They want to reduce fat mass and raise lean mass.
Eating at BMR or lower actually maintains fat mass while dropping lean mass.
visit http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/
Do the Military Body Fat Calc first, then the BMR tool.
The BMR tool will give EXACT calories to eat on a daily basis.
This number is static and I only recommend eating back so your NET is at least 200 above BMR.
Add 20% to suggested calories to know your TDEE.
Use the Katch McGardle BMR number to know your BMR.
Never eat at or below BMR.
Note: the tool gives you what you should eat based on different activity levels in the table - this table already includes a deficit (i.e. 20% has already been taken off).
Hope this helps0 -
I know that I do seem to be hungry all the time. I have a very very hard time trying to keep up with the calorie increase to the point that I hate eating. I really really have to force myself to eat. It is like I am tired of eating. As far as eating b4 workouts and time I eat b4 workouts varies. I just workout when ever I get bored and nothing to do or I feel that I have enough energy to do so. I can tell you this, I have increased my weights. I never used weight to build.
Not trying to be mean here - but if you are hungry all the time, how come you have to force yourself to eat? If I am hungry, it's definately not a problem for me to eat!
If you do have problems getting enough calories (which at even 1200 with working out you almost certainly are not getting enough) then try to eat calorie dense foods such as nuts, avodados, protein drinks etc. Also, take the advice/suggestions of the other posters about when to eat before/after working out e.g.banana.
I am so use to just eating any kind of way, anything I want. Now that I am trying to eat right, it is hard, I get so tired of the healthy thing and feel like a junky going cold turkey. It is so much easier to just eat what you like and not just what is good for you. Do that make sense to you....lol?0 -
I am fine and healthy and my pancreas works great. I don't think that's fair to say that there is something wrong with me because I get shaky when I eat high-sugar foods.
It's not common for people to experience that. I still think you should have it looked at because most people do not get the shakes after one dose of sugar from a cupcake unless they have some kind of issue with their blood sugar or metabolism. I am not saying anything is "wrong" with you but rather that it's uncommon and worth having checked out.0 -
I know that I do seem to be hungry all the time. I have a very very hard time trying to keep up with the calorie increase to the point that I hate eating. I really really have to force myself to eat. It is like I am tired of eating. As far as eating b4 workouts and time I eat b4 workouts varies. I just workout when ever I get bored and nothing to do or I feel that I have enough energy to do so. I can tell you this, I have increased my weights. I never used weight to build.
Not trying to be mean here - but if you are hungry all the time, how come you have to force yourself to eat? If I am hungry, it's definately not a problem for me to eat!
If you do have problems getting enough calories (which at even 1200 with working out you almost certainly are not getting enough) then try to eat calorie dense foods such as nuts, avodados, protein drinks etc. Also, take the advice/suggestions of the other posters about when to eat before/after working out e.g.banana.
I am so use to just eating any kind of way, anything I want. Now that I am trying to eat right, it is hard, I get so tired of the healthy thing and feel like a junky going cold turkey. It is so much easier to just eat what you like and not just what is good for you. Do that make sense to you....lol?
I can easily go and get some junk to eat and satisfy my craving, but to continuously eat things that I do not want, makes it hard.0 -
Sounds like low blood sugar. But it could be low potassium. Low potassium is often a side effect of low calorie diets, especially when exercising is involved.
If the shaky feeling is accompanied by heavy heart palpitations, fatigue, and weakness, it's potassium. You need to get potassium as quickly as possible. Eat potassium rich foods, such as potatoes, avocados, and my go-to potassium drink, Low Sodium V-8.0 -
The Wiki page on "sugar crash":
If a cupcake makes you shaky, you need to go see a doctor and have your blood sugar tested. It should not do that to non-diabetic and non-hypoglycemic people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_crash0 -
I have been thoroughly checked out. My doctor told me exactly what I am saying here: That I am experiencing a sugar crash, that it happens when you eat sugary things. She disagrees with you, apparently, that it is abnormal.
I am fine and healthy and my pancreas works great. I don't think that's fair to say that there is something wrong with me because I get shaky when I eat high-sugar foods.
It's not common for people to experience that. I still think you should have it looked at because most people do not get the shakes after one dose of sugar from a cupcake unless they have some kind of issue with their blood sugar or metabolism. I am not saying anything is "wrong" with you but rather that it's uncommon and worth having checked out.0 -
The Wiki page on "sugar crash":
If a cupcake makes you shaky, you need to go see a doctor and have your blood sugar tested. It should not do that to non-diabetic and non-hypoglycemic people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_crash
Did you read that post at all? Did you read the treatment? MORE SUGAR. It's a similar episode of HYPOglycemia following an episode of hyperglycemia. I also don't see anything about getting "the shakes" from this. Again, this is not something that happens to people who don't have issues with sugar. If you think you're fine, and have seen a doc about it, then fine, but one cupcake should not put you in a state of a sugar crash or hyperglycemia.
Also, here's a nice little bit of info on HYPOglycemia which does cause the shakes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia#Signs_and_symptoms
This is exactly what the rest of us are talking about what happens post workout. Blood sugar gets used up quickly during exercise, and if it's not replaced, can lead to hypoglycemia. I know because I've experienced it many times in the past. The fix is more sugar or carbs to bring the blood sugar back up, not less.0 -
I know that I do seem to be hungry all the time. I have a very very hard time trying to keep up with the calorie increase to the point that I hate eating. I really really have to force myself to eat. It is like I am tired of eating. As far as eating b4 workouts and time I eat b4 workouts varies. I just workout when ever I get bored and nothing to do or I feel that I have enough energy to do so. I can tell you this, I have increased my weights. I never used weight to build.
Not trying to be mean here - but if you are hungry all the time, how come you have to force yourself to eat? If I am hungry, it's definately not a problem for me to eat!
If you do have problems getting enough calories (which at even 1200 with working out you almost certainly are not getting enough) then try to eat calorie dense foods such as nuts, avodados, protein drinks etc. Also, take the advice/suggestions of the other posters about when to eat before/after working out e.g.banana.
I am so use to just eating any kind of way, anything I want. Now that I am trying to eat right, it is hard, I get so tired of the healthy thing and feel like a junky going cold turkey. It is so much easier to just eat what you like and not just what is good for you. Do that make sense to you....lol?
Sort of why eat things you do not like?? I may get jumped on for this, but at the moment I would try to eat things you enjoy more and not try to eat totally 'clean'. If you feel deprived, you will not stay on track, and in my opinion, the best 'diet' is the one you will stick to (as long as is not unhealthy). If you run your numbers, you will probably find that you have far more calories you need to be eating. While I would recommend avoiding processed sugar, you can probably add some extras in that will help you enjoy eating more. Add a little of butter to those veggies, put some dressing on the salad etc. Just do it in moderation and keep moving (the trampolining sounds fun!).0 -
She disagrees with you, apparently, that it is abnormal.
Sorry. I believe I misread your meaning here, so I apologize for taking this comment the wrong way.
I'm glad you are healthy, and you should trust your doctor more than me, but to say that the OP is experiencing an insulin spike give her food diary doesn't make sense at all, and most people do not experience sugar crashes from a single cupcake as your previous example. That is my point.0 -
I truly appreciate all the patience that you all have shown, to take the time out to try and help me understand. Thanks you so much.0
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I know that I do seem to be hungry all the time. I have a very very hard time trying to keep up with the calorie increase to the point that I hate eating. I really really have to force myself to eat. It is like I am tired of eating. As far as eating b4 workouts and time I eat b4 workouts varies. I just workout when ever I get bored and nothing to do or I feel that I have enough energy to do so. I can tell you this, I have increased my weights. I never used weight to build.
Not trying to be mean here - but if you are hungry all the time, how come you have to force yourself to eat? If I am hungry, it's definately not a problem for me to eat!
If you do have problems getting enough calories (which at even 1200 with working out you almost certainly are not getting enough) then try to eat calorie dense foods such as nuts, avodados, protein drinks etc. Also, take the advice/suggestions of the other posters about when to eat before/after working out e.g.banana.
I am so use to just eating any kind of way, anything I want. Now that I am trying to eat right, it is hard, I get so tired of the healthy thing and feel like a junky going cold turkey. It is so much easier to just eat what you like and not just what is good for you. Do that make sense to you....lol?
Sort of why eat things you do not like?? I may get jumped on for this, but at the moment I would try to eat things you enjoy more and not try to eat totally 'clean'. If you feel deprived, you will not stay on track, and in my opinion, the best 'diet' is the one you will stick to (as long as is not unhealthy). If you run your numbers, you will probably find that you have far more calories you need to be eating. While I would recommend avoiding processed sugar, you can probably add some extras in that will help you enjoy eating more. Add a little of butter to those veggies, put some dressing on the salad etc. Just do it in moderation and keep moving (the trampolining sounds fun!).
I agree with this. Do it in moderation, but eat what you eat to get to a comfortable calorie goal, and then evaluate what you're eating to see what you can modify and make better decisions in. It might take a little longer to lose the weight, but it will be worth it in the end.0 -
She disagrees with you, apparently, that it is abnormal.
Unnecessary and rude.
I don't see where it was rude......what I read was that the doctor disagrees that its abnormal.......0 -
She disagrees with you, apparently, that it is abnormal.
Unnecessary and rude.
I don't see where it was rude......what I read was that the doctor disagrees that its abnormal.......
I read it as "disagreeing with you is abnormal" (sarcastically)
If you did not mean that, then I apologize.0 -
You seem to be misinterpreting just about everything I say.She disagrees with you, apparently, that it is abnormal.
Unnecessary and rude.
It was in no way meant as rude or even snippy. Just stating that my doctor's advice is not the same as yours. You told me to go see one and I merely answered.
I thank you for your concern about my health. Now let's get back to the original question please.0 -
Oh, heavens, no, I did not mean that. I meant that my doctor disagrees with you. That's all.She disagrees with you, apparently, that it is abnormal.
Unnecessary and rude.
I don't see where it was rude......what I read was that the doctor disagrees that its abnormal.......
I read it as "disagreeing with you is abnormal" (sarcastically)
If you did not mean that, then I apologize.0 -
You seem to be misinterpreting just about everything I say.She disagrees with you, apparently, that it is abnormal.
Unnecessary and rude.
It was in no way meant as rude or even snippy. Just stating that my doctor's advice is not the same as yours. You told me to go see one and I merely answered.
I thank you for your concern about my health. Now let's get back to the original question please.
I am sorry that I misread your post. Please see my last comment to you for clarification. I'm glad that you are well.0 -
Maybe try eating more protein before you workouts? I know if I don't eat enough and I work out hard I get shaky, but as soon as I eat I feel better.0
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I know that I do seem to be hungry all the time. I have a very very hard time trying to keep up with the calorie increase to the point that I hate eating. I really really have to force myself to eat. It is like I am tired of eating. As far as eating b4 workouts and time I eat b4 workouts varies. I just workout when ever I get bored and nothing to do or I feel that I have enough energy to do so. I can tell you this, I have increased my weights. I never used weight to build.
Not trying to be mean here - but if you are hungry all the time, how come you have to force yourself to eat? If I am hungry, it's definately not a problem for me to eat!
If you do have problems getting enough calories (which at even 1200 with working out you almost certainly are not getting enough) then try to eat calorie dense foods such as nuts, avodados, protein drinks etc. Also, take the advice/suggestions of the other posters about when to eat before/after working out e.g.banana.
I am so use to just eating any kind of way, anything I want. Now that I am trying to eat right, it is hard, I get so tired of the healthy thing and feel like a junky going cold turkey. It is so much easier to just eat what you like and not just what is good for you. Do that make sense to you....lol?
Sort of why eat things you do not like?? I may get jumped on for this, but at the moment I would try to eat things you enjoy more and not try to eat totally 'clean'. If you feel deprived, you will not stay on track, and in my opinion, the best 'diet' is the one you will stick to (as long as is not unhealthy). If you run your numbers, you will probably find that you have far more calories you need to be eating. While I would recommend avoiding processed sugar, you can probably add some extras in that will help you enjoy eating more. Add a little of butter to those veggies, put some dressing on the salad etc. Just do it in moderation and keep moving (the trampolining sounds fun!).
you got me lol. thanks. because I cut out too much, too fast and I am cranky. I need the sugar, I need the butter, and so forth....lol I think this is exactly what I may have to do, to be able to continue. RELAPSE0 -
You have started down the right path - and never feel like you cannot ask questions. Post questions you have - you may get a few folks who are blunt, but do not take it to heart as its hard to 'get the right tone of voice' over the internet. Hang in there - the motto 'slowly but surely' applies to weight loss probably more than anything else. If you can make it a lifestyle change, you cannot fall off your diet, as there is no diet!!
Good luck.0 -
OP: I wrote a post for people just getting started like you. It's mostly stuff I learned along the way, and I think it might really help: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/470367-tips-for-newbies
Don't you worry. If you want to make this a priority in life, you'll find a way to make it happen. It's not easy when you are just starting out to figure all this mess out. It takes a long long time. Don't feel discouraged. We all went through this stage.0 -
I know that I do seem to be hungry all the time. I have a very very hard time trying to keep up with the calorie increase to the point that I hate eating. I really really have to force myself to eat. It is like I am tired of eating. As far as eating b4 workouts and time I eat b4 workouts varies. I just workout when ever I get bored and nothing to do or I feel that I have enough energy to do so. I can tell you this, I have increased my weights. I never used weight to build.
Not trying to be mean here - but if you are hungry all the time, how come you have to force yourself to eat? If I am hungry, it's definately not a problem for me to eat!
If you do have problems getting enough calories (which at even 1200 with working out you almost certainly are not getting enough) then try to eat calorie dense foods such as nuts, avodados, protein drinks etc. Also, take the advice/suggestions of the other posters about when to eat before/after working out e.g.banana.
I am so use to just eating any kind of way, anything I want. Now that I am trying to eat right, it is hard, I get so tired of the healthy thing and feel like a junky going cold turkey. It is so much easier to just eat what you like and not just what is good for you. Do that make sense to you....lol?
Sort of why eat things you do not like?? I may get jumped on for this, but at the moment I would try to eat things you enjoy more and not try to eat totally 'clean'. If you feel deprived, you will not stay on track, and in my opinion, the best 'diet' is the one you will stick to (as long as is not unhealthy). If you run your numbers, you will probably find that you have far more calories you need to be eating. While I would recommend avoiding processed sugar, you can probably add some extras in that will help you enjoy eating more. Add a little of butter to those veggies, put some dressing on the salad etc. Just do it in moderation and keep moving (the trampolining sounds fun!).
you got me lol. thanks. because I cut out too much, too fast and I am cranky. I need the sugar, I need the butter, and so forth....lol I think this is exactly what I may have to do, to be able to continue. RELAPSE
Its exactly what I do and it works for me - just keep moving!!0 -
OP: I wrote a post for people just getting started like you. It's mostly stuff I learned along the way, and I think it might really help: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/470367-tips-for-newbies
Don't you worry. If you want to make this a priority in life, you'll find a way to make it happen. It's not easy when you are just starting out to figure all this mess out. It takes a long long time. Don't feel discouraged. We all went through this stage.
I just read the post in the link - very good post for those starting out.0 -
I have problems with Hyper and hypoglycemia and I totally understand that shaky feeling. I get it almost daily. It is a controllable form of pre-diabetes.
Having Glucose Tablets or Quick Sticks are made for that situation. Orange juice or some kind of carb will help. Sometimes I will eat a little bit of past (1/2 cup) or a breakfast bar (90 calories). If you get really bad off to the point where you have a headache and feel like your dizzy, nauseousness, and going to pass out, have a glucose tab or quick stick or put some sugar under your tongue and let it dissolve.
I'm not a fitness expert, I'm not a doctor but I have this problem and this is what works for me. Drinking coffee also makes it worse. I had to start limiting myself to two cups per day and that helps a lot. Don't go without eating in the morning, even if it's something small.
Good luck!0 -
thans everyone0
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I have upped my calories and slowed down a little on my workout (which is probably not a good thing), but I have to follow my body. I have not had that shaky feeling at all. But now that I upped my calories, I am going to try to push harder on my workouts. Thanks everyone.0
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