Why CAN'T you eat whatever you want?? *Little* rant...
Im_NotPerfect
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It's frustrating to read posts where people are saying "I can't eat what my friends eat" or "I can't eat what my family eats". Why not? If this is truly a lifestyle change for you (which it should be) you need to learn how to not only eat healthier but ALSO account for the unexpected.
EVERYTHING is okay....in moderation! So it's not about what you CAN'T eat, it's about how you CAN eat everything! Deprivation will lead to binging and failure. Make it a real life change and teach yourself how to do this thing for the long haul!
Thank you.
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It's frustrating to read posts where people are saying "I can't eat what my friends eat" or "I can't eat what my family eats". Why not? If this is truly a lifestyle change for you (which it should be) you need to learn how to not only eat healthier but ALSO account for the unexpected.
EVERYTHING is okay....in moderation! So it's not about what you CAN'T eat, it's about how you CAN eat everything! Deprivation will lead to binging and failure. Make it a real life change and teach yourself how to do this thing for the long haul!
Thank you.
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Truth!!! I've already had a piece of cake, booze and a cupcake this week.0
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I think this is very true.
I however do have to complete take some things out for a while. Because I just go over board to easy.
Granola bars, cereal, and such are those products. I don't crave if I just don't eat them. Whatever works for you ^-^0 -
I ate a bison burger yesterday. On bread. It was delicious. And it was still within my calorie and carb limits I have set!0
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My friend and I went to the chipper on Wednesday. No biggie, I got an omelette, and adjusted myself for their needs. It didn't even bother me that there were burgers and chips everywhere. I stole a chip off of his plate, and I didn't die. I've never NOT gone into a place, I've just adjusted my food whether that be eating less or getting something healthier or leaving out the potato or rice etc. Instead of the whole slice of cake, I'd have half. It's been no hassle, and there's no point being miserable glaring at others enjoying nice things :laugh:0
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I think this is very true.
I however do have to complete take some things out for a while. Because I just go over board to easy.
Granola bars, cereal, and such are those products. I don't crave if I just don't eat them. Whatever works for you ^-^
I have to remove things for a bit too. Nothing nearly as good as cereal, more like "Oh, my darn, I've had pizza six times in the last month, time to let it go for the next month or two." I just have a habit of clinging onto a certain set of junk food and even when I log it and it fits into my allowance, I know it hurts my body to eat like that that often.0 -
I think this is very true.
I however do have to complete take some things out for a while. Because I just go over board to easy.
Granola bars, cereal, and such are those products. I don't crave if I just don't eat them. Whatever works for you ^-^
This. Moderation only works for those who can stop themselves when they've consumed an appropriate amount of food. Not everyone can do this. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for people to understand that food relationships are highly individual and what is easy for one person to do can be next to impossible for another.0 -
It's not what they eat, it's how much. I'd love to eat a half rack of ribs, fries, Caesar salad and pecan pie in one shot. I'm not one to eat once a day though, so I have to eat 1 rib, 1/4 of the fries, none of the salad and a bite of pie. I overeat once and it's over.0
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I plan on getting drunk tonight! I'm on a weightloss program...not a death program....I'm human and I'll do what other humans do...live my life.0
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I eat anything I want to eat. However, I don't want nor crave:
most processed foods
fast foods
soda pop
I love to cook and eat and I only eat REAL foods that taste good.
It's not worth the calories to eat crap and then feel like crap.
I love dark chocolate, wine, and good cheese, all in moderation.
I bake desserts occasionally and eat some, but in moderation.
I do eat out, but try to make healthy choices from the menu and
don't obsess about it. Very infrequently, I will have something from
the above list, but again, I don't obsess about it.
If you don't know how to cook, teach yourself. The internet is a great tool. You will never be sorry.0 -
I think this is very true.
I however do have to complete take some things out for a while. Because I just go over board to easy.
Granola bars, cereal, and such are those products. I don't crave if I just don't eat them. Whatever works for you ^-^
I have to remove things for a bit too. Nothing nearly as good as cereal, more like "Oh, my darn, I've had pizza six times in the last month, time to let it go for the next month or two." I just have a habit of clinging onto a certain set of junk food and even when I log it and it fits into my allowance, I know it hurts my body to eat like that that often.
Interesting! Pizza I can control easy - make it once in a while and deliciously homemade.
I can eat a whole box of granola bars in one sitting though xD did it with fiber one bars once. BAD idea xD0 -
yupppp quantity over quality is sometimes in order here! this reminds me of the whole french paradox thing where the french are significantly less obese but eat all the delicious foods...they just eat a lot smaller portions, don't snack and take their time to enjoy the food!! america could learn from this ahaha.0
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It's frustrating to read posts where people are saying "I can't eat what my friends eat" or "I can't eat what my family eats". Why not? If this is truly a lifestyle change for you (which it should be) you need to learn how to not only eat healthier but ALSO account for the unexpected.
EVERYTHING is okay....in moderation! So it's not about what you CAN'T eat, it's about how you CAN eat everything! Deprivation will lead to binging and failure. Make it a real life change and teach yourself how to do this thing for the long haul!
Thank you.
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Everything is permissible but not everything is beneficial.
I *can* eat whatever I like in theory, but I also know that I will feel like absolute crap if I eat certain things.
Of course I'm not the type to sit and whine about it either. I just eat what I need to eat and don't purposely draw attention or point out to those around me that it's not what they are eating. THAT annoys me.0 -
::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause:: ::applause::Deprivation will lead to binging and failure. Make it a real life change and teach yourself how to do this thing for the long haul!0 -
Very well said. I live by this every day. I don't like when ANYONE says I can't have something, and that includes me! I either have a smaller amount of something that might not be the healthiest choice or I'll adjust the rest of my day to accommodate it.0
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I think those are the people who haven't made "the shift" yet. The shift is when you realize "I don't WANT to eat what they are eating because I don't WANT to be overweight/unhealthy." And, yes, also realizing that it's okay to eat bad things or too much of something on occassion... realizing "on occassion" doesn't mean daily.
And, if you're lucky, part of the shift is that not only do you choose not to eat something - and are okay with your decision - it's that when you do eat it, it no longer has the same "satisfaction" that it used to. I don' t mean that you satisfaction loses over guilt, either. I mean that it just doesn't taste as good as you remember it! That is awesome and makes it so much easier to choose the "good" over the "bad" on a regular basis.
But, you have to open yourself up to making "the shift", realizing that it is possible and may happen if you "let" it happen. Didn't say it was easy, just saying it's possible. 0 -
I agree. I have ice cream just about every single night. I get plenty of good, nutritious food throughout most days, but I look forward to that ice cream. Hey, it does have protein and calcium :-)0
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<<<< is REALLY looking forward to a piece of black raspberry pie on Sunday. Nom nom nom...0
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I think those are the people who haven't made "the shift" yet. The shift is when you realize "I don't WANT to eat what they are eating because I don't WANT to be overweight/unhealthy." And, yes, also realizing that it's okay to eat bad things or too much of something on occassion... realizing "on occassion" doesn't mean daily.
And, if you're lucky, part of the shift is that not only do you choose not to eat something - and are okay with your decision - it's that when you do eat it, it no longer has the same "satisfaction" that it used to. I don' t mean that you satisfaction loses over guilt, either. I mean that it just doesn't taste as good as you remember it! That is awesome and makes it so much easier to choose the "good" over the "bad" on a regular basis.
But, you have to open yourself up to making "the shift", realizing that it is possible and may happen if you "let" it happen. Didn't say it was easy, just saying it's possible.
I completely agree! This pretty much sums up my thoughts! It does annoy me when people say oh well you "can't" have this can you? URGH!0 -
Amen! I eat close to 2000 cal a day if not more, and I lost 2lbs this week. It's doable!0
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I agree with the poster who said nutrition is highly individual. There are things I'm not eating right now. It's not that I think those foods are the Devil, it's just that I'm not yet at an emotional state where I can handle them. For some of us, it's an addiction. It's like telling an alcoholic he can have *just one* beer. For the average person, just one beer is a good, reasonable option. But you know what happens when an alcoholic has *just one* beer. He reaches for another. And then another. And then another...........0
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well said!!*Climbs on soapbox*
It's frustrating to read posts where people are saying "I can't eat what my friends eat" or "I can't eat what my family eats". Why not? If this is truly a lifestyle change for you (which it should be) you need to learn how to not only eat healthier but ALSO account for the unexpected.
EVERYTHING is okay....in moderation! So it's not about what you CAN'T eat, it's about how you CAN eat everything! Deprivation will lead to binging and failure. Make it a real life change and teach yourself how to do this thing for the long haul!
Thank you.
*Climbs off soapbox*
Everything is permissible but not everything is beneficial.
I *can* eat whatever I like in theory, but I also know that I will feel like absolute crap if I eat certain things.
Of course I'm not the type to sit and whine about it either. I just eat what I need to eat and don't purposely draw attention or point out to those around me that it's not what they are eating. THAT annoys me.0 -
Okay, not "I can't," but "I won't." It's okay to be different if you don't want processed/junk food to be the mainstay of your diet. It's nothing to whine about, it's just a personal choice to support a healthy lifestyle. Generally, that can be accomplished without making a big deal of it.0
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I wish it were that simple for someone who has had over half a lifetime of eating disorders. I have tried many times, to moderately eat the things I enjoy that are less healthy. I bought in chocolate and ice cream and biscuits, and managed a few days of having just 1 small bar, or a few biscuits or a serving of ice cream, but then days later, ended up binge eating the whole lot and feeling like crap. It is very frustrating when you know what is healthy, what is moderation, how it should be, but cannot put it into practise.
I cannot even have a box of healthy cereal at home, lest I eat bowl after bowl in the evening, most likely due to boredom, depression or a lack of other enjoyments in my life.
It is at a point where I cannot have any sugary or wheat based foods around me,and just buy in one ice cream, or one small chocolate bar a day as a treat. Only way to moderate myself, even if it means I binge on fruit and tuna instead or feel deprived and miserable.0 -
I could eat what my family eats, but I choose to be healthy instead. That isn't to say I don't indulge (I have a spike day every Sunday, and in many ways eat worse than they do on those days), but 85% of the time I'm on point.0
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i've been eating what i want...in moderation of course...but i still enjoy my little pleasures like gummie bears!! LOL but i know not to go overboard...in 70 days im down 16lbs and i am def on target for my goal for next week that i originally set for myself i wanted to be 145lbs by April 13th...and right now im 146.4 so you CAN eat what you want but just dont over do it 0
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totally needed to see this right now, I've been contradicting myself so bad about this exact situation!0
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There have been some wonderful feedback on the OPs rant and it's true that nutritional needs and food relationships are highly individual and one cake for one may lead to a total binge for another.
However, I'm not comfortable with the distinction between healthy and unhealthy foods. Yes there are foods which are nutritionally richer and more diverse than others, but anything eaten to excess is ultimately unhealthy.
There was a really dreadful diet show on the uk called "Diet Doctors: inside and out". They took both fat and skinny people with poor diets and tried to educate them to eat better, but their methods and beliefs as to what constituted healthy was so warped that it really made a mockery of things.
Once they had an overweight woman who liked cheese which she ate more or less daily. So to try and scare her (and there's no other way to explain their actions) they had this super-fit show jumper eat 1lb of cheese every day for 2 weeks. This bloke never ate cheese normally so obviously making him eat something that has body was not used to and in such high quantities was enough to make him nauseous and make his skin break out.
But that doesn't make cheese bad or unhealthy; it just shows that too much of a good thing can be detrimental. The Dutch eat cheese every day and they are not a sickly nation by any means (but they do cycle a lot so get plenty of exercise too).0 -
I plan on getting drunk tonight! I'm on a weightloss program...not a death program....I'm human and I'll do what other humans do...live my life.
Love that! Thanks!0 -
I was that person... worrying and then binging later... which made my life 10x worse. I def agree! Eat things in moderation and explore the variety of how other ways that certain food can be eaten in a healthier way.0
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Why I agree with the original post BUT why I used to disagree........Please bear with my long story as there is a point and I hope my learning experience can save someone else the trouble. Then again, take from it what you will because we are all individuals who react and respond differently to different things.....
About 5 years ago I started a certain type of diet that boasts itself as not really being a diet but a healthy way of living. It started out with a couple of weeks of banning several foods and dropping a lot of pounds fast (about 10 in those first 2 weeks), then went into a period of slowly reintroducing a select few of those foods back in (slowing the weight loss but still a very acceptable 1-2 pounds lost per week). The idea was to stay that course until the entire desired amount of weight was lost. After that, you were supposed to be able to maintain the new weight by continuing to avoid certain foods completely or having them rarely (1-2 times a year) in very minimal quantities (a couple of bites). But at least if you messed up, you could forgive yourself and "go back" to where you needed and get back on track. The big "no-no" foods were things like potatoes, corn, anything with white flour and sugar....etc. When I started, I was so amazed at how well I responded and how much weight I lost. That initial weight loss had me hooked. I stubbornly stuck to it by the book (literally). It took about 6 months for me to get to my ideal weight (I lost 35 pounds). But about a year after getting to my ideal weight, I lost my ambition. I became so tired of missing out on things others were enjoying. I even started to become resentful as my social life had suffered because there were many occasions I would not even attend due to the temptation (I am a major carb junkie). Eventually, I ended up just caving. I think my friends and family were glad to not have me obsessing about it all anymore. A few months later, After gaining back about 1/2 the weight and my cholesterol going from 163 back to 220, I decided to start at the beginning again. I believed it was the only thing that could work for me. Once again, I resigned myself to being rather isolated and figured it was just how it would have to be to get healthy and stay healthy.......unfortunately, I mindlessly repeated this process several more times for about 5 years. Each time I'd start at the beginning, the weight loss was slower than it was the time before. It almost seemed like I had become resistant to it. I never again got back to my healthy weight. And each time I "fell off" the process again, I'd gain back even more weight and end up heavier than I had ever been before. INSANE!!
Recently, the proverbial light bulb came on when I finally began to realize that what I need is to learn portion control & moderation (BUT NOT RESTRICTION). I also need to learn to stop blaming events, occasions, family, friends and such for MY inappropriate eating. What I believe though is that people can and so have food addictions that vary just as much and as complex as any drug or alcohol addiction. I believe I am a food abuser and have tended to swing from one extreme to another, neither being very healthy in the grand scheme of it all. So, what I am learning now is to not be restrictive, critical and such. Rather, just to enjoy life and use common sense....you know listen to my inner voice versus some words in a book. I think we all know what's good for us. It's when we start doubting and second guessing that we get into trouble. I think that all the food commercials are misleading, but no more misleading than all the diet commercials. Interestingly, since I've been retraining myself to trust myself, I am eating a greater variety of food and losing weight slow but steady. I let myself have what I want and somehow I am choosing a lot more healthy stuff on my own and craving other stuff far less (while going ahead and having it when I want to).0
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