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Reposting CDC stats because EVERYONE should see them
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And this is what children are learning! The tomato on my pizza counts as vegetables! Does the tomato in the ketchup count as one too? Sigh :noway:
At that point then they may as well be counting a snickers bar as a serving of nuts....0 -
How many people did they get the information from? If you only call 100 people and 50 are overweight. Than 50 percent of the people are overweight! In order for these stats to be TRUE tehy would have had to get the info for EVERY person in the state. Not just a handful.
You don't have to get data from every single person to have a statistically valid population sample.0 -
At that point then they may as well be counting a snickers bar as a serving of nuts....
haha, nice one. I tried to think of more foods, but all I could think of were poor examples. Sure, nuts in snickers! They are healthy for you! OHHH and that slice of cheese on my cheeseburger! Guess what?! It counted as a serving of dairy!!!!0 -
You don't have to get data from every single person to have a statistically valid population sample.
You also don't automatically have a statistically valid population sample just because you've interviewed 100 (or even 1000) people.0 -
haha, nice one. I tried to think of more foods, but all I could think of were poor examples. Sure, nuts in snickers! They are healthy for you! OHHH and that slice of cheese on my cheeseburger! Guess what?! It counted as a serving of dairy!!!!
Sure...peanut butter swirl ice cream? Dairy AND nuts...bam.0 -
You don't have to get data from every single person to have a statistically valid population sample.
BULL! So your trying to say that if I called 100 people in a buisness of 10,000, and 50 of those 100 people are OBESE. Then 50% of that business is OBESE! Try again!0 -
I watched a documentary yesterday - America the Beautiful 2. I t had some very interesting information and was presented in a thought provoking fashion.
Arnold Schwarzeneggar (spelling) has a BMI of 38.... He may have cheated on his wife but he is not obese.
I recommend it.0 -
You also don't automatically have a statistically valid population sample just because you've interviewed 100 (or even 1000) people.
Correct, but once you have interviewed a specific number, the confidence level can get no higher, rendering it a statistically valid sample size.0 -
Arnold Schwarzeneggar (spelling) has a BMI of 38....
LMAO....isn't that considered morbidly obese?0 -
BULL! So your trying to say that if I called 100 people in a buisness of 10,000, and 50 of those 100 people are OBESE. Then 50% of that business is OBESE! Try again!
Umm, I didn't say anything about how many specifically you had to interview. I said you don't have to interview everyone to get a statistically valid sample.0 -
By the way luke, I live in Ireland, so that's why I don't know exactly how many are considered obese by looking around me :P Though I doubt we are all that much better as a country, there are a lot of unfit people because of the miserable weather I think!
And to make the gif, I saved the twenty-odd pictures into a folder, used GIMP2.0 to open them all as layers, saved them as a .gif animation and set them to change every half a second. There's tutorials out there, it can be handy
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Ronald Reagan deemed ketchup to be a veggie too. French fries are considered a veggie with school lunches. Pack your kids lunches. End of story.0
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You even have to be careful doing that nowadays. There are apparently school districts which monitor the kids' homemade lunches. If they don't have all of what the school deems appropriate, they'll force the kids to eat a school lunch instead. There was an article on it just a few weeks ago....Ronald Reagan deemed ketchup to be a veggie too. French fries are considered a veggie with school lunches. Pack your kids lunches. End of story.
Here's one but not the one I was thinking of: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-04-11/news/ct-met-school-lunch-restrictions-041120110410_1_lunch-food-provider-public-school
THIS one: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/n-c-food-inspector-sends-girls-lunch-home-after-determining-its-not-healthy-enough/0 -
Ronald Reagan deemed ketchup to be a veggie too. French fries are considered a veggie with school lunches. Pack your kids lunches. End of story.
Reagan SMASH!0 -
I'd love to see something like this on Australia (where I am from) but not one based on BMI.
As everyone has stated, BMI is rediculous. Look at my profile picture. I am not OBESE. I can still do a 4 hour hike through steep Australian bush/country side and not have a heartattack. I can do an hour on the exercise bike and burn 500-600cals no worries. I'm only a size 16 (Australian) not a size 20+! I am no obese, but if I weight myself at the doctors or on my Wii Fit the little character on the screen blows up to a balloon and tells me I'm obese, gee thanks for the motivation. Yes I am overweight, but I'm still quite fit. Not as fit as most thinner people, but fitter than most people the same BMI as me that's for sure.
I've never had my body fat % measured and don't know where or how to get that done but I'd love to know it just so I can go by that instead of BMI cos BMI is a load of bull. For the fact it doesn't include muscle mass. It doesn't include some women have a bigger upper half. etc. etc.0 -
VERY interesting because NIH has been researching for so long to figure out what is causing higher rates of autism! Interesting link.
My youngest has autism and my starting weight when I got pregnant was lower than with my second child. Though I was considered obese at the time at 5'4" and 180 pounds.0 -
My youngest has autism and my starting weight when I got pregnant was lower than with my second child. Though I was considered obese at the time at 5'4" and 180 pounds.
I know many parents who are thin and fit who have autistic kids.0 -
LMAO....isn't that considered morbidly obese?
Over 40 is considered morbidly obese.
I know this because I am currently at 40.5
I'm looking forward to being 'just' obese... Hoping I'll get there next week!0 -
It doesn't seem strange to you at all that if you look around you won't see 1 out of every 4 people looking disgustingly fat? I weight 203 and I'm considered Obese.
I'm not arguing the chart is accurate - just pointing out that looking around you means nothing.
Obesity rates can can vary greatly depending on where you live. Where I am, in South Florida, I *can* look around and see extremely overweight people constantly. When I visited Manhattan... different story! I was shocked that I saw only 1 obviously obese man the entire week I was there.0 -
this gaphic has been already dismissed because they exaggerated the numbers. the cdc gets funding for obesity research, and they exagerrated the numbers on this graphic. do some research for gods sake0
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What motive does the CDC have to lie or fudge obesity rates? They don't get more money if the nation is fatter. They don't get praise for highlighting it.
What motive does a government agency have for telling us that we're not capable of successfully making it from one day to the next without being told what's good for us and what isn't? Really? A government that enjoys being overly involved in the private lives of its citizens has every reason in the world to lie.
That doesn't mean I don't think obesity is rampant. I just think it's a symptom of a bigger problem that no one in government wants to address: lack of personal responsibility. The government has a vested interest in making us dependent on them.
The school lunch thing is a perfect example. Is it ridiculous that tomato paste is considered a vegetable? Sure. But what is the first thing these enraged parents can think of to solve the problem? Appeal to the FEDERAL government to step in and dictate what kind of food should be served in the schools. You're dependent on them. And the result of that is that they reach a little further and start telling YOU what kinds of foods YOU must eat in your own home. Is the more sensible course of action not to go to your duly elected school board and say "Do something about this or you will not be voted back onto the board?" This allows you to work on the problem at a local level and keeps the feds as far away from your daily life as humanly possible, which was sort of the point of establishing the U.S. as a republic in the first place.0 -
Child Obesity is also linked to more working mothers...
"As the rate of working moms has drastically increased over the past 35 years to 70 percent, so has the childhood obesity rate, according to new research. A study published in the journal Child Development suggests that the longer a mother is employed, the more likely her children are to be overweight or obese. In fact, the study estimates that with each five-month period a mother is employed, her child will gain one extra pound above normal. Additionally, sixth graders with working mothers were six times more likely to be overweight than middle schoolers with stay-at-home mothers."
Kind of makes sense. When pressed for time one is more likely to opt for convenience food and have less time for active play and outings. Obviously this isn't always the case but it could be a factor in the increased obesity rates.0 -
Child Obesity is also linked to more working mothers...
"As the rate of working moms has drastically increased over the past 35 years to 70 percent, so has the childhood obesity rate, according to new research. A study published in the journal Child Development suggests that the longer a mother is employed, the more likely her children are to be overweight or obese. In fact, the study estimates that with each five-month period a mother is employed, her child will gain one extra pound above normal. Additionally, sixth graders with working mothers were six times more likely to be overweight than middle schoolers with stay-at-home mothers."
Kind of makes sense. When pressed for time one is more likely to opt for convenience food and have less time for active play and outings. Obviously this isn't always the case but it could be a factor in the increased obesity rates.
gee, maybe if they're lucky, they can blame the Kennedy assassination on working mothers.
Are fathers not capable of cooking?
I'm a single working mother, have been since my kids were 2, 5, and 7, and none of them are overweight.0 -
Ronald Reagan deemed ketchup to be a veggie too. French fries are considered a veggie with school lunches. Pack your kids lunches. End of story.
and what about the kids whose parents can't afford to pack their lunch? I guess they're screwed?0 -
Who is blaming? Sometimes it is hard to have the energy to cook healthy when you have worked all day. Sometimes I would rather bring home a pizza. The study is linked to mothers because the rate of working fathers has remained fairly constant. I am a single parent too who worked my through law school and my kids aren't overweight either. However studies look at trends not unique observations.
gee, maybe if they're lucky, they can blame the Kennedy assassination on working mothers.
Are fathers not capable of cooking?
I'm a single working mother, have been since my kids were 2, 5, and 7, and none of them are overweight.0 -
gee, maybe if they're lucky, they can blame the Kennedy assassination on working mothers.
Are fathers not capable of cooking?
I'm a single working mother, have been since my kids were 2, 5, and 7, and none of them are overweight.
Because mothers staying at home = mothers cooking. Mothers going to work = nobody cooking because both father and mother are now busy at work.
Your n=1 doesn't disprove that other kids can become overweight because their mothers work and neglect their dietary needs.0 -
BULL! So your trying to say that if I called 100 people in a buisness of 10,000, and 50 of those 100 people are OBESE. Then 50% of that business is OBESE! Try again!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)0 -
I think its also safe to say that this entire conversation is pointless seeing as it won't make a bit of difference whether the stats are accurate or inaccurate. At the end of the day there are still far too many people who are at unhealthy weights. There are still government agencies putting out whatever data they want in order to get funding. And those of us here talking about it are still doing what we need to do to not be part of those statistics.
Nothing changes.0 -
Pfft... What does the CDC know?
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And this is what children are learning! The tomato on my pizza counts as vegetables! Does the tomato in the ketchup on my CHEESEBURGER count as one too? Sigh :noway:
What about what the parent is teaching. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault.0
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