Sugar or fat! any advice?

loloambush
loloambush Posts: 15
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Hi every body :smile:
I was wondering if any one got the same problem that I got right now
I've been watching my sugar consuming for a long time & I realize that I got more sugar than I suppose too :noway:
when I tried to change my food with lower sugar things I found out that it got so much fat in it!
so any one got any advice for me which I should watch out for sugar or fat?!
BTW the sugar I got in my food is natural from fruit & nuts not from adding sugar to what ever I eat or drink :wink:
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  • hamiltonba
    hamiltonba Posts: 474 Member
    What types of foods are/were you eating? As long as I stay away from processed foods, I do ok in regards to my fat and sugar consumption.
  • warmachinejt
    warmachinejt Posts: 2,162 Member
    It really doesn't matter in the end. If your sugar comes mostly from fruits and your fat from good sources (peanut butter,olive oil avocados...) then you should be good.
  • lambertj
    lambertj Posts: 675 Member
    I watch sugar and eat about 30-35% daily of healthy fat, for me sugar is way worse than healthy fats
  • beckyinma
    beckyinma Posts: 1,433 Member
    It really doesn't matter in the end. If your sugar comes mostly from fruits and your fat from good sources (peanut butter,olive oil avocados...) then you should be good.


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  • LooseWheel
    LooseWheel Posts: 211 Member
    I guess the only advice I can give comes from my doctor but its slightly different. I just asked my doctor the difference in low fat foods having high sodium. I asked is it better to have the regular full fat foods or the low fat foods higher in salt. He said low fat foods have higher salt as taking the fat out takes flavour out so they have to add something. That may be the same for sugar too. He said our bodies find it easier to burn up the fat in foods rather than the extra salt, so he said stick with the full fat items eg milk, cheese etc. I dont know exactly if its the same for the fat/sugar idea but hopefully u get answers here. I have no idea. dont know if its the same theory as the higher fat vs higher sodium argument? Each person is different so advice from your doctor is good too as they will know you better. I have high blood pressure, so added salt isn't the best for me. best of luck sorting this one out. Good question!
  • StarvingDiva
    StarvingDiva Posts: 1,107 Member
    If you are getting your sugars from fruits then I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's when you start eating "fat free" stuff that is processed off the shelf, because to make it fat free and taste better they add lots of crap your body doesn't need, including sugar.

    If you are trying to stay low sugar, try keeping your fruit eating to mornings and hit the veggies more so in the afternoon and stick to fruits lower in sugar.
  • lambertj
    lambertj Posts: 675 Member
    Yes, they add sugar to low fat and fat free foods to make them taste better so you are better off eating full fat foods (in moderation) than fat-free or low fat (if you are watching sugar)
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Yes, they add sugar to low fat and fat free foods to make them taste better so you are better off eating full fat foods (in moderation) than fat-free or low fat (if you are watching sugar)

    It's only partly for taste reasons. Sugar and fat both have the same properties in food on a structural basis, for instance, they can both be used to tenderize baked goods, and thicken sauces. Substituting fat for sugar and sugar for fat has been going on for hundreds of years, for that reason, it's not really a new phenomenon.

    As for which to watch? Watch calories. As long as your calories are in check, the rest will fall into place.
  • justal313
    justal313 Posts: 1,375 Member
    It really doesn't matter in the end. If your sugar comes mostly from fruits and your fat from good sources (peanut butter,olive oil avocados...) then you should be good.


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  • EternallyDriven
    EternallyDriven Posts: 2
    Cut the garbage foods and eat whole healthy foods as much as possible.
    Change your Ratios to 50% Fat, 25% Protien, 25% Carbs
    Fat is good, but not vegetable or soy fat. Get you fat from Meats, nuts, and oils (coconut, butter, olive)

    Here is a link to help you start thinking differently: http://www.marksdailyapple.com

    Here is are some Documentary movies to watch: Fat Head, King Corn, Food Matters (all available on Netflix)

    DO NOT EAT:
    processed foods
    Sugar
    Grains ( Including wheat and soy products)
    Cow's Milk (and other processed homogenized dairy)
    Beans or Legumes

    DO EAT:
    Vegetables
    Meat
    Water
    Coconut milk or Almond Milk
  • EternallyDriven
    EternallyDriven Posts: 2
    Cutting calories is not as important as cutting out poisons....i.e. sugar, wheat, corn, and beans (peanuts, soy, sprouts)
    If you truly want to be healthy and not just thin, eat right and strength train.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,223 Member
    Cutting calories is not as important as cutting out poisons....i.e. sugar, wheat, corn, and beans (peanuts, soy, sprouts)
    If you truly want to be healthy and not just thin, eat right and strength train.
    Geez us. Fairy tales.
  • Nette_54
    Nette_54 Posts: 265 Member
    Hi every body :smile:
    I was wondering if any one got the same problem that I got right now
    I've been watching my sugar consuming for a long time & I realize that I got more sugar than I suppose too :noway:
    when I tried to change my food with lower sugar things I found out that it got so much fat in it!
    o any one got any advice for me which I should watch out for sugar or fat?!
    BTW the sugar I got in my food is natural from fruit & nuts not from adding sugar to what ever I eat or drink :wink:



    Natural sugars from fruits is fine
  • Spanaval
    Spanaval Posts: 1,200 Member
    Cut the garbage foods and eat whole healthy foods as much as possible.
    Change your Ratios to 50% Fat, 25% Protien, 25% Carbs
    Fat is good, but not vegetable or soy fat. Get you fat from Meats, nuts, and oils (coconut, butter, olive)

    Here is a link to help you start thinking differently: http://www.marksdailyapple.com

    Here is are some Documentary movies to watch: Fat Head, King Corn, Food Matters (all available on Netflix)

    DO NOT EAT:
    processed foods
    Sugar
    Grains ( Including wheat and soy products)
    Cow's Milk (and other processed homogenized dairy)
    Beans or Legumes

    DO EAT:
    Vegetables
    Meat
    Water
    Coconut milk or Almond Milk

    So where do people that eat a vegetarian/vegan diet get their protein from?
  • loloambush
    loloambush Posts: 15
    thanks every body that was really helpful to me
    I just found out that sugar can easily burn but fat still fat need a lot to shake'em off!
  • loloambush
    loloambush Posts: 15
    Cutting calories is not as important as cutting out poisons....i.e. sugar, wheat, corn, and beans (peanuts, soy, sprouts)
    If you truly want to be healthy and not just thin, eat right and strength train.
    I've heard that wheat & beans are really good for someone need to lose wight cause it keep'em full but this is my first to know this :)
  • loloambush
    loloambush Posts: 15
    :flowerforyou:
  • loloambush
    loloambush Posts: 15
    If you are getting your sugars from fruits then I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's when you start eating "fat free" stuff that is processed off the shelf, because to make it fat free and taste better they add lots of crap your body doesn't need, including sugar.

    If you are trying to stay low sugar, try keeping your fruit eating to mornings and hit the veggies more so in the afternoon and stick to fruits lower in sugar.

    thanks for the advice it's really good I liked it :love:
  • loloambush
    loloambush Posts: 15
    As for which to watch? Watch calories. As long as your calories are in check, the rest will fall into place.

    thanks that's a relief for me cause I'm always under my calories goal :wink:
  • loloambush
    loloambush Posts: 15
    I guess the only advice I can give comes from my doctor but its slightly different. I just asked my doctor the difference in low fat foods having high sodium. I asked is it better to have the regular full fat foods or the low fat foods higher in salt. He said low fat foods have higher salt as taking the fat out takes flavour out so they have to add something. That may be the same for sugar too. He said our bodies find it easier to burn up the fat in foods rather than the extra salt, so he said stick with the full fat items eg milk, cheese etc. I dont know exactly if its the same for the fat/sugar idea but hopefully u get answers here. I have no idea. dont know if its the same theory as the higher fat vs higher sodium argument? Each person is different so advice from your doctor is good too as they will know you better. I have high blood pressure, so added salt isn't the best for me. best of luck sorting this one out. Good question!

    thank you thank you thank you thank you I wanted to ask about sodium for a long time! cheers
  • loloambush
    loloambush Posts: 15
    What types of foods are/were you eating? As long as I stay away from processed foods, I do ok in regards to my fat and sugar consumption.

    some times fresh & sometimes dried fruit. thanks for the advice I'll do as you said :flowerforyou:
  • spedabstbit
    spedabstbit Posts: 21 Member

    So where do people that eat a vegetarian/vegan diet get their protein from?

    Nuts and nut butters are a primary source with lots of protein. Lots of vegetables have at least 1-2 grams of protein in a serving - I call that "hidden protein." I have a small serving of oatmeal each morning for breakfast (1/2 cup oats=1 cup, cooked), and there are 4 grams of protein in that! There are other grain sources of protein as well. Quinoa has 14 grams of protein in 3.5 oz. uncooked. Eat a variety of good-for-you foods, and you'll find all sorts of "hidden protein!"
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
    Cutting calories is not as important as cutting out poisons....i.e. sugar, wheat, corn, and beans (peanuts, soy, sprouts)
    If you truly want to be healthy and not just thin, eat right and strength train.
    I've heard that wheat & beans are really good for someone need to lose wight cause it keep'em full but this is my first to know this :)

    You may want to read 'Wheat Belly', it's an eye-opener.

    Two slices of wholewheat bread will spike your blood sugar more than a snickers bar.

    I believe the key is to maintain a low insulin level to allow your metabolism to burn off the fat stores. The presence of insulin will prevent any weight loss. Repeated incidences of high insulin will build insulin resistance and then diabetes is a short snack away.

    Hence stick to low GI Real Foods (like the ones Granny would recognise), not processed frankenfoods.

    The wheat we eat today is a poor relation to that of 100 or even 50 years ago.

    Regarding fat, there is nothing wrong with consuming it, as long as it's the right kind of fat, as others have mentioned.

    Anything labelled 'low fat' should be consigned to the garbage and replaced with Real Food.

    Consuming fat will not make you fat, the body needs fats. Don't fear the fat.

    We have been brainwashed by bad nutrition advice based on Bad Science.

    'Why We Get Fat, And What To Do About It' is also worthy of a read.

    Once the body gets what it wants and the blood sugar rollercoaster is tamed people return to their natural state of appetite and the body will get rid of the excess naturally.

    You may want to watch 'Sugar, The Bitter Truth' on YouTube, 15 minutes of why sugar should be minimised.

    There is a reason there aren't any 'essential carbohyrates' ...

    And once again I ramble :) Hope you at least watch the YouTube vid anyway.
  • PHLLLY
    PHLLLY Posts: 160 Member
    Natural sugars are ok, however I would recommend eating whole fruits and not dried or dehydrated fruits. Whole fruits will keep you more full opposed to the concentrated dried fruits, thus allowing you to eat more and consume way more calories of sugar in your diet. I would choose to eat fat over sugar. Eating fat doesn't make you fat! Stay in the AMDRs, exercise regularly and you should be good. Avoid processed sugars and go for more complex carbohydrates. They keep you fuller. Try stevia, I personally don't like the taste but if you're worried about the artificial sweeteners that can actually make you hungrier, then go for that. Healthy fats like nuts and avocados, vegetable oils, non hydrogenated foods, NO TRANS FATS, and foods high in poly and mono unsaturated fats are a good start. Natural foods can have different combinations of fats so that is okay is some is saturated, but make sure it's not too high. I've spent hours going through grocery isles looking for the best foods like pasta sauces, yogurt, breads, dressings, etc. If you really want to make a change, make the sacrifice and do what I did. If anyone has any questions, let me know!
  • TheVimFuego
    TheVimFuego Posts: 2,412 Member
    why would you cut whole wheat and beans and legumes? are you saying consuming that in general or if they're trying to watch sugar and fat intake?

    I would say that if you want to lose weight then cutting the wheat out would help enormously. The beans and legumes to a lesser extent. Based on GI.

    If you are trying to maintain a weight then discovering what your carb tolerance is would be a good step.

    Everyone's body is obviously different and some people have been knocked around so much by the 'low fat good' message that their body will ultimately tolerate very few carbs.

    I was stalled until very recently then I cut the wheat, beans and all that. As a by-product I seem to crave them less and do not snack.

    I also drink wine like it's going out of fashion (I know, carbs, but hey, it aint a religion), I consume more calories and I exercise less. And my dry skin condition has cleared up. Sounds unreal while also losing weight but those things have happened.

    In my opinion and all that. :)
  • PHLLLY
    PHLLLY Posts: 160 Member
    Cutting calories is not as important as cutting out poisons....i.e. sugar, wheat, corn, and beans (peanuts, soy, sprouts)
    If you truly want to be healthy and not just thin, eat right and strength train.
    I've heard that wheat & beans are really good for someone need to lose wight cause it keep'em full but this is my first to know this :)

    You're absolutely correct! The body has to work harder to break down the foods like complex starches such as WHOLE GRAINS and beans and legumes. They also contain a lot of fiber and resistant starches that the small intestine doesn't absorb all of the sugar. If you are eating simple sugars like fruit juices, fruit, powerade, glucose, etc the body absorbs it all completely via glycogen stores if they've been depleted and anything left over will be converted to fat. It's a lot easier to chug apple juice than eat an apple. Eat whole fruits not dried fruits.
  • ahamm002
    ahamm002 Posts: 1,690 Member
    Cut the garbage foods and eat whole healthy foods as much as possible.
    Change your Ratios to 50% Fat, 25% Protien, 25% Carbs
    Fat is good, but not vegetable or soy fat. Get you fat from Meats, nuts, and oils (coconut, butter, olive)

    Here is a link to help you start thinking differently: http://www.marksdailyapple.com

    Here is are some Documentary movies to watch: Fat Head, King Corn, Food Matters (all available on Netflix)

    DO NOT EAT:
    processed foods
    Sugar
    Grains ( Including wheat and soy products)
    Cow's Milk (and other processed homogenized dairy)
    Beans or Legumes

    DO EAT:
    Vegetables
    Meat
    Water
    Coconut milk or Almond Milk

    So where do people that eat a vegetarian/vegan diet get their protein from?

    They generally don't get that much protein unless they over eat legunes. "Lowish" protein is the main drawback of a vegetarian diet.
  • ahamm002
    ahamm002 Posts: 1,690 Member
    thanks every body that was really helpful to me
    I just found out that sugar can easily burn but fat still fat need a lot to shake'em off!

    Sugar can also be very easily converted into fat. Unless your sugar intake is directly associated with a workout, it won't be burned off. It will spike your insulin, get quickly and efficiently converted into fat, and then leave you hungry again an hour later.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    thanks every body that was really helpful to me
    I just found out that sugar can easily burn but fat still fat need a lot to shake'em off!

    Sugar can also be very easily converted into fat. Unless your sugar intake is directly associated with a workout, it won't be burned off. It will spike your insulin, get quickly and efficiently converted into fat, and then leave you hungry again an hour later.

    Wow...

    So if sugar is eaten anytime other then right around a workout it just turns to fat?
  • drewstl
    drewstl Posts: 4
    I am having a wonderful time losing weight cutting sugar and starch on a LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) diet. I had sausage for breakfast and I'll go out and get grilled chicken for lunch, maybe mix in some mayo, bacon, and lettuce wrap. At the moment I'm avoiding all sugars and carbs including those from fruit but when I reach my goal weight I'll introduce some of those back in. I'm losing weight and I'm not hungry. When I am hungry I eat.

    Some great resources:
    dietdoctor dot com
    Go to hulu and watch a movie/documentary called 'Fat Head' - He eats fast food every day and loses weight
    Go to youtube and search 'Gary Taubes' - There is a great speech he gave at Google last spring

    Good Luck


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