so close to giving up!!!!!!!and water weight!
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im sorry but i really dont believe in the eat more loose weight
i believe that you lose weight by the basic rule eat less, move more thats what my doctor told me
when i eat more i gain weight more monday i ate 2300 cals and i weigh 3lb more, eat more weigh more it seems for me
It works, I swear by it, this profile picture is the proof. Feel free to look at my diary to see what food choices I make.
And you say you are close to giving up, so what is the harm in trying 1600 calories a day instead of giving up?
This is supposed to be a life style, not a DIEt. We eat good, nutritious foods every day and get the occasional cheat meal well, because we can.
If every one is going to tell you to eat more than 1200 cals, why would you not believe it? You will feel better, up your metabolism and burn more fat. That is how it worked for me.
Now upping them does not mean eating crap. Eat good clean foods with a low gylcemic index. The fat will go, I thought I was going to have to have lipo suction to get rid of the excess fat on my 43 year old body that 1200 calories and 3x a week with a personal trainer did not melt away. You can not imagine the joy in not only getting rid of it, but getting rid of it by eating more!
What she said! The lower the amount of calories you eat the worse off your metabolism. That could be why after a couple of bad days you gained weight. Your body will decrease your metabolism if your calorie intake is to low, its damaging. Eat above your BMR and below your TDEE for weight loss. It's that simple.0 -
Why ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
i think she really believes one day of eating 2300 calories has made her gain 3 lb. there is no scientific evidence to support that. 1 lb is 3500 calories. it's not possible for 3 lb to be gained with 1 day of 2300 calories. we all are offering strategies so if she doesn't want to listen or try anything else i am out of ways to help. good luck
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im sorry but i really dont believe in the eat more loose weight
i believe that you lose weight by the basic rule eat less, move more thats what my doctor told me
when i eat more i gain weight more monday i ate 2300 cals and i weigh 3lb more, eat more weigh more it seems for me
Weight loss or gain (not water weight, but actual fat-weight) is a function of two very simple things.
- How much your body burns, including exercise.
- How much you eat.
Take what you eat, subtract what your body is burning, and if that number is negative, you will (over varying amounts of time time) lose weight.
The problem you're having with the math (and that your doctor has oversimplified) is that you do have an influence, above and beyond exercise, in how many calories your body burns. If you feed your body a very low-calorie or unbalanced diet, your body is not functioning at peak capacity and will reduce the number of calories you burn while at rest.
I lost my first 30 pounds simply chasing calories downward until I started losing weight, then continuing to eat fewer calories per day whenever I hit a plateau. I worked out like a madman. I would fast for 2-3 days at a time occasionally. And I felt tired, got sick a lot, couldn't get a really good workout because I'd be so drained, and the 30 pounds took me a year. It was one miserable year, and almost immediately after I gave up I started gaining weight because I wasn't healthier, I was just lighter.
I lost my next 20 pounds in three months by balancing my diet, feeding my body enough fuel so it could handle intense workouts without me feeling miserable about them AND enough so it could build calorie-burning muscle. I emerged from that "diet" a healthier individual, and I didn't put a pound of that weight back on, ever.
Look, you're an adult - you get to make your own decisions. If you want to go low-calorie, that's your choice. I made the same decision and deeply regretted it. It did not improve my health, and it was a completely miserable way to lose weight that I couldn't sustain, and when I was done my body reverted right back to its old habits because I hadn't given it the building blocks to make it healthy. Take my mistakes and learn from them, or don't.
Either way, good luck in your weight loss journey, and I hope you reach your goals.0 -
Why ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
what im being told contradicts my doctors advice on the eat less move more and my fitness pall suggest i eat 1200 a day so im questioning why my doc and the fitness pall gives a certain advice, but then so called proven scientific fact as you put it compleatly overlooks what a so called medical proff says?
cna you not understand my confusion?
actualy the question was more about water weight, thats why i put my analiser results on there .i was loosing weight eating 1200 cals a day give or take infact i lost 16lbs its only when i started training and exercsing more that ive gained???0 -
Why ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
i think she really believes one day of eating 2300 calories has made her gain 3 lb. there is no scientific evidence to support that. 1 lb is 3500 calories. it's not possible for 3 lb to be gained with 1 day of 2300 calories. we all are offering strategies so if she doesn't want to listen or try anything else i am out of ways to help. good luck
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i do not believe eating 2300 made me gain 3lb im asking more about intense workout and water weight thats why i put my body fat analiser results up i put my water weight has gone up from 40 to 53 since working out so will eating more rid me off water weight then?0 -
Why ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
what im being told contradicts my doctors advice on the eat less move more and my fitness pall suggest i eat 1200 a day so im questioning why my doc and the fitness pall gives a certain advice, but then so called proven scientific fact as you put it compleatly overlooks what a so called medical proff says?
cna you not understand my confusion?
actualy the question was more about water weight, thats why i put my analiser results on there .i was loosing weight eating 1200 cals a day give or take infact i lost 16lbs its only when i started training and exercsing more that ive gained???
The confusion is that your doctor over simplifies and Myfitnesspal is just a guide. For instance, say you were eating a total of 2500 calories a day and your doctor told you to eat less move more to lose weight.
So "eat less" by lowering your calories by 500 down to 2000 and you "move more" by burning 500 calories per dayby exercising. This would put you at a NET calorie base of 1500 calories(2500 calories minus 1000). 1500 net calories is well above the 1200 MFP is telling you and STILL following your doctors orders.
What MFP fails to say is that you should ALWAYS be eating above your BMR, AND that if you need to lose less than 25 pounds you SHOULD NOT set your weight loss goal at 2 pounds a week loss. (I do not know your goals so this is just a guess on my part)Its unrealistic and leads to you eating less, which makes your metabolism slow down which causes drastic number changes on the scale when you over indulge. Even tho it is just water weight.
SO you can eat more than 1200, and still be under maintainence WHILE eating less and moving more.
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Since you've started weight training your body needs more calories. Your metabolism has slowed and you are most likely burning lean body mass and holding onto your fat.
Sorry if I sounded harsh earlier, but if you would like some help, feel free to send me a message. The scale isn't always a good judge of progress if you are weight training. Body measurements are more helpful.0 -
that sounds helpful thank you,this is why im getting confused im trying my best to folow my fitness pal but then what other say is contradicting its actualy makes me want to give up compleatly because i dont actualy know what i should be doing lolhang on myfitnesspal says i should be eating 1200 a days are you saying this whole site is wrong?
i'm saying the 1200 doesn't work for everyone. it didn't for me. i don't think it's correct. many people agree with this assessment if they know their BMR and TDEE. if you are about 5 feet tall and 110 lb it might work for you, but it doesn't for most people. so many people have this problem of weight stalling and body fat increasing and there is an answer if you look for it and believe people who have been there and done that.0 -
Why ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
what im being told contradicts my doctors advice on the eat less move more and my fitness pall suggest i eat 1200 a day so im questioning why my doc and the fitness pall gives a certain advice, but then so called proven scientific fact as you put it compleatly overlooks what a so called medical proff says?
cna you not understand my confusion?
actualy the question was more about water weight, thats why i put my analiser results on there .i was loosing weight eating 1200 cals a day give or take infact i lost 16lbs its only when i started training and exercsing more that ive gained???
I don't think you understand what people mean when they say eat more. I shall explain it so that even a 10 year old can understand. ALL NUMBERS FROM HERE ON ARE HYPOTHETICAL. If you are required to eat 2500 calories to maintain your weight, then eating 1200 calories would naturally make you lose weight. HOWEVER, when you are at this amount of calories for too long, your body will soon adapt, AND WE WON'T EVEN USE THE TERM STARVATION MODE, BECAUSE THAT'S A STUPID WORD, eating a constant 1200 calories doesn't make your body go into starvation mode, it goes into a mode in which it is so efficient at using what you ate to be stored as energy, that it is almost completely ridiculous. THIS IS NOT STARVATION MODE, THIS IS SUPER ADAPTATION MODE, and i wish people would stop using the word starvation mode.
ANYWAY BACK TO THE NUMBERS, if you eat at a constant 1200 calories, your body will soon adapt to it, what they mean by eating more, is to increase your calories to like 1500 calories, WHICH IS STILL UNDER YOUR 2500 CALORIE MAINTENANCE, nobody is telling you to EAT MORE then your maintenance, they are telling you to eat MORE than your 1200 calories. Because your body has finally adapted to it, because our bodies are super efficient at adapting to any type of diet.0 -
thank you thats fab that helps me understand alot more im 143 lbs trying to get to 118lbs so 26lbs to loose im going to lower my goal to lb a week instead of 2lb might be a better way to achieve this than mucking my body upWhy ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
what im being told contradicts my doctors advice on the eat less move more and my fitness pall suggest i eat 1200 a day so im questioning why my doc and the fitness pall gives a certain advice, but then so called proven scientific fact as you put it compleatly overlooks what a so called medical proff says?
cna you not understand my confusion?
actualy the question was more about water weight, thats why i put my analiser results on there .i was loosing weight eating 1200 cals a day give or take infact i lost 16lbs its only when i started training and exercsing more that ive gained???
The confusion is that your doctor over simplifies and Myfitnesspal is just a guide. For instance, say you were eating a total of 2500 calories a day and your doctor told you to eat less move more to lose weight.
So eat less by lowering your calories by 500 down to 2000 and you move more by burning 500 calories per day in "moving more" This would put you at a NET calorie base of 1500 calories. well above the 1200 MFP is telling you and STILL following your doctors orders.
What MFP fails to say is that you should ALWAYS be eating above your BMR, AND that if you need to lose less than 25 pounds you SHOULD NOT set your weight loss goal at 2 pounds a week loss. (I do not know your goals so this is just a guess on my part)Its unrealistic and leads to you eating less, which makes your metabolism slow down which causes drastic number changes on the scale when you over indulge. Even tho it is just water weight.
SO you can eat more, and still be under maintainence WHILE eating less and moving more.
Hope that helps.0 -
thank you thats fab that helps me understand alot more im 143 lbs trying to get to 118lbs so 26lbs to loose im going to lower my goal to lb a week instead of 2lb might be a better way to achieve this than mucking my body upWhy ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
what im being told contradicts my doctors advice on the eat less move more and my fitness pall suggest i eat 1200 a day so im questioning why my doc and the fitness pall gives a certain advice, but then so called proven scientific fact as you put it compleatly overlooks what a so called medical proff says?
cna you not understand my confusion?
actualy the question was more about water weight, thats why i put my analiser results on there .i was loosing weight eating 1200 cals a day give or take infact i lost 16lbs its only when i started training and exercsing more that ive gained???
The confusion is that your doctor over simplifies and Myfitnesspal is just a guide. For instance, say you were eating a total of 2500 calories a day and your doctor told you to eat less move more to lose weight.
So eat less by lowering your calories by 500 down to 2000 and you move more by burning 500 calories per day in "moving more" This would put you at a NET calorie base of 1500 calories. well above the 1200 MFP is telling you and STILL following your doctors orders.
What MFP fails to say is that you should ALWAYS be eating above your BMR, AND that if you need to lose less than 25 pounds you SHOULD NOT set your weight loss goal at 2 pounds a week loss. (I do not know your goals so this is just a guess on my part)Its unrealistic and leads to you eating less, which makes your metabolism slow down which causes drastic number changes on the scale when you over indulge. Even tho it is just water weight.
SO you can eat more, and still be under maintainence WHILE eating less and moving more.
Hope that helps.
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This is my post from another thread.
You've created a calorie deficit by already reducing how many cals you eat so just by doing that you will lose weight. When you add working out into the equation it makes that deficit even bigger.
Let's say your Total Daily Energy Expenditure is 2000 cals aka to maintain your weight at your current activity level and to sustain all necessary bodily functions, to lose 1lb/week (calorie deficit of 500 cals/day) you could have two options, which are really just two ways of looking at the same thing:
A) 2000 cals in - 500 cals burned by exercise = NET 1500 cals (total daily deficit 500cals, total weekly deficit 500calsX7days= 3500 cals ~ 1lb loss)
1500 cals in - 500 cals burned by exercise + 500 cals of exercise cals to eat back = NET 1500 cals (total daily deficit 500cals, total weekly deficit 500calsX7days= 3500 cals ~ 1lb loss)
Or if you just want to lose weight by eating less then you have one more option
C) 1500 cals in - 0 cals burned during exercise = NET 1500 cals
You should be netting above your BMR because that is the energy required to support your body in a coma, as soon as you get out of bed you start burning more cals than your BMR. Eating below your BMR is going to screw with your metabolism. The repair process isn't that much fun either, I've been going through it for a few months.0 -
ive recently started doing more exercise i started 30 day shread on monday, i lost control monday and ate 2200 cals instead of 1200 not enough to cause any real damage but as a precausion i went to the gym and and did an extra hour buring off the bad day the day before. i worked harder than i ever have this week on exercise but im still 3.5lbs heavyer.
im so upset im finding it hard to make good choices with food now,ive hit a plateu the last 3 weeks now so i decided to turn it up a notch and join the gym and im still not seing results just a gain.
before anyone says mscle weighs more than fat ive also done inches and gained a inch on my waiste and tum,also my analiser says ive gained 3lb
muscle mass has gone from 41.9 to 39.8
and fat has gone from 21.8 to 24
now my water levels have shot up from normaly the 40 mark to 53.8 is water weight whats causing all off this? surely water weight doesnt add iches!!!!!
Oh my, have you ever calculated your TDEE or BMR...1200 is most likely way under and unfortunately any losses are usually short lived for a myriad of reasons. I will send you a link to a group and there are now over 1000 women that are "Eating More to Weigh Less"...it sounds crazy, but I am a walking witness that had to start the group because we don't need to starve ourselves on 1200 calories to lose weight....
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3817-eat-more-to-weigh-less0 -
great info! Bump to look into later0
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would also like to say that eating more to loose weight is a scary prospect when it goes against everything you believe in, and nearly left the site because so called people voice the oppinions harshly (not helpful by the way)
im not stupid, i know its not possible to gain 3lb from eating 2300 cals thats why i asked if its possible its all water weight from working out and have any of you looked at so many so called oppinons on loosing weight alot of it is bulls*** so can you blame a person when someone tells you eat more loose more weight come on that sounds to good to be true and normaly when its sounds to good to be true it normaly is. its almost sounds as good as loose 10lbs a week shi** you see on the internet so you cant blame someone for thinking yea ok whatever0 -
Here's some tools...
www.fitnessfrog.com
1) Calculate your TDEE, cals to maintain current weight
2) Calculate your BMR, minimum amount of cals you should be eating
3) Subtract 500 cals from your TDEE, this is how many cals you should net to lose 1lb/week
Try that for a month and see how it goes. Be honest about your exercise level. That's why I suggest getting an HRM. Helps to make sure you're staying near your target HR during a workout so your cals burned is more accurate.
I am 5' 8, 173 lbs, and my BMR is 1600 cals or so just as an idea. My TDEE is more like 2300 - 2500.0 -
1200 isnt enough is the problem. 1600 would be better and you would preserve more lean mass. please read this. lots of valuable info here:
>>>>>IMPORTANT!!! To get your numbers right please visit---> http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/538381-in-place-of-a-road-map <---read the instructions. I lay everything out to help you have a true fat burning diet.<<<<<<<
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would also like to say that eating more to loose weight is a scary prospect when it goes against everything you believe in, and nearly left the site because so called people voice the oppinions harshly (not helpful by the way)
im not stupid, i know its not possible to gain 3lb from eating 2300 cals thats why i asked if its possible its all water weight from working out and have any of you looked at so many so called oppinons on loosing weight alot of it is bulls*** so can you blame a person when someone tells you eat more loose more weight come on that sounds to good to be true and normaly when its sounds to good to be true it normaly is. its almost sounds as good as loose 10lbs a week shi** you see on the internet so you cant blame someone for thinking yea ok whatever
of course it is scary to have to eat more. but it works. and we're telling you how. so you can choose to try it, or to just keep on doing what your'e doing. the only reason i thought you believed you gained 3 lb from the 2300 calories that you did for 1 day is you said "but i've tried eating more, it doesn't work" and then gave the example of eating that much 1 day this week and then said you gained 3 lb. seems like a logical conclusion when someone says those two things. i'm not sure what your history of dieting has been like, so based on those two sentences: 1. I ate 2300 calories one day this week and 2. I gained 3 lb this week , i thought that you really thought that was how you gained the 3 lb. sorry that i was wrong in reading what you were trying to say since i don't know your diet history. anyway, just try eating a little more and i'm sure you'll see results. also, like i said before please read http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/521728-upping-cals-what-to-expect-why-you-need-patience
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Here's some tools...
www.fitnessfrog.com
1) Calculate your TDEE, cals to maintain current weight
2) Calculate your BMR, minimum amount of cals you should be eating
3) Subtract 500 cals from your TDEE, this is how many cals you should net to lose 1lb/week
Try that for a month and see how it goes. Be honest about your exercise level. That's why I suggest getting an HRM. Helps to make sure you're staying near your target HR during a workout so your cals burned is more accurate.
I am 5' 8, 173 lbs, and my BMR is 1600 cals or so just as an idea. My TDEE is more like 2300 - 2500.
fab ill have a look at that think my bmr is 1600 ill double check now0 -
Here's some tools...
www.fitnessfrog.com
1) Calculate your TDEE, cals to maintain current weight
2) Calculate your BMR, minimum amount of cals you should be eating
3) Subtract 500 cals from your TDEE, this is how many cals you should net to lose 1lb/week
Try that for a month and see how it goes. Be honest about your exercise level. That's why I suggest getting an HRM. Helps to make sure you're staying near your target HR during a workout so your cals burned is more accurate.
I am 5' 8, 173 lbs, and my BMR is 1600 cals or so just as an idea. My TDEE is more like 2300 - 2500.
so my bmr 1460 and my tdee is 1999 so i should be eating around 1500 a day to lose a 1lb a week?0 -
I've been doing really well since December and I too just started the 30-Day-Shred. I've lost weight every week except this past week when I gained 2.2 pounds. I almost had a heart attack! I was about to give up but I didn't. I just reminded myself that this is a lifestyle change so there is nothing to give up. And that the number on the scale doesn't define me.0
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that sounds right... see, so you can eat more than 1200 calories... but not as much as your TDEE and you'll lose weight. it's really just a math equation and we all have different numbers. i wish that MFP would just say that! it is very confusing how many people think 1200 is right for everyone. i can't blame them though, it is set up that way.Here's some tools...
www.fitnessfrog.com
1) Calculate your TDEE, cals to maintain current weight
2) Calculate your BMR, minimum amount of cals you should be eating
3) Subtract 500 cals from your TDEE, this is how many cals you should net to lose 1lb/week
Try that for a month and see how it goes. Be honest about your exercise level. That's why I suggest getting an HRM. Helps to make sure you're staying near your target HR during a workout so your cals burned is more accurate.
I am 5' 8, 173 lbs, and my BMR is 1600 cals or so just as an idea. My TDEE is more like 2300 - 2500.
so my bmr 1460 and my tdee is 1999 so i should be eating around 1500 a day to lose a 1lb a week?0 -
all I will add is a phrase that gets me through the downer days- "if it were easy, everyone would do it". think of it like a battle. Its a lifestyle change that will take time.0
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1200 isnt enough is the problem. 1600 would be better and you would preserve more lean mass. please read this. lots of valuable info here:
>>>>>IMPORTANT!!! To get your numbers right please visit---> http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/538381-in-place-of-a-road-map <---read the instructions. I lay everything out to help you have a true fat burning diet.<<<<<<<
^^^^^This!
Wait!
I wrote that!
^^^^do this!0 -
Btw my body fluctuates 5lbs daily due to water, glycogen, bodily waste etc...
Stress will cause retention as well so chill.0 -
Btw my body fluctuates 5lbs daily due to water, glycogen, bodily waste etc...
Stress will cause retention as well so chill.
yes! i also agree maybe weighing every 2 weeks would be better, or weigh every month... i have seen huge daily fluctuations as well0 -
Why ask for advice if you think you know what's best for you anyway and aren't even considering PROVEN scientific facts and suggestions being offered to HELP YOU?
I agree with this ^^^^^^0 -
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DRINK LOTS OF WATER!!!!!! your supposed to drink half of your body weight in ounces of water!!! it is so important because if you don't you will feel bloated. i don't remember the reason for this but i was reading it a few weeks ago somewhere else. Hang in there!!! You have nothing to loose except everything if you give up now!!!!!! A journey of all your weight lost begins with one little pound after another!!! But you must start with the 1st one to get to the 2nd and the 3rd one!!!!!0
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hello,
I also get upset too when i think i have done alot to try to control my eating and stuff no matter how good i do i am so hungry its aweful.... I wanted to let you know that i am on a water pill which helps with the water weight if you are having trouble with fluid in your hands or feet you may need to take a water pill to help and i do know my water weight does make my weight go up and down i feel like i am on a weight loss roller coaster some times ... Trust me you will get upset but all you can do is keep working towards it and you will get where you want to be in time we have a trainer at work who is teaching us alot one week at a time and its going to be a long road and she taught us to set up short term goals and long term goals and even group goals and when you reach them to reward yourself with something other than food.. I hope i helped a little telling you my story and we can keep in touch to talk and help to encourage you along the way.... GOOD LUCK, PENNY:happy:0
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